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Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They are not! The french study was totally flawed as it didn’t count the people who didn’t finish the trial!
Guess why they didn’t finish! The Russians are lieing about deaths, treatment, DRS falling out of windows, exploding ventilators etc! They would rather have 5 deaths listed as from fire than Covid19, the Chinese have been lieing from the start and even Trumps own medical advisors have told him it doesn’t work! |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
Yes it’s a very common and cheap anti-malarial. I use a form called Paraguil it’s about $5 for 2 weeks supply in Lagos.
When this first came to light about 2 months ago, stocks in the US and Nigeria ran dry and it was dismissed as fake.
Now the UK has recently bought up stocks here and it testing it. Lots of anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it works. |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
Plymouth |
Wikipedia says:
"Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), sold under the brand name Plaquenil among others, is a medication used to prevent and treat malaria in areas where malaria remains sensitive to chloroquine. Other uses include treatment of rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and porphyria cutanea tarda. It is also being studied as a treatment for COVID-19. |
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"A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalised with the new illness found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers have said.
More than 27 per cent of patients treated died, compared with an 11.4 per cent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the Washington Post reports."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-deaths-trump-drug-malaria-covid-19-a9518011.html |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalised with the new illness found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers have said.
More than 27 per cent of patients treated died, compared with an 11.4 per cent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the Washington Post reports."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-deaths-trump-drug-malaria-covid-19-a9518011.html"
But Trump has a feeling? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalised with the new illness found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers have said.
More than 27 per cent of patients treated died, compared with an 11.4 per cent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the Washington Post reports."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-deaths-trump-drug-malaria-covid-19-a9518011.html
But Trump has a feeling?"
Of course, and I keep forgetting we are sick of experts! |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit. |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
And before you come back next week making a similar post - don't inject disinfectant or try and shine a bright light inside you! |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit."
Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. |
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A recent study on this seemed to suggest a potentially higher mortality rate using this drug than without.
No matter what feeling someone has, scientific decisions should be driven by that... science |
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Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. "
Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site... |
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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago
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Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.
Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site..."
It’s nonsense you can’t link to journals |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes weve heard of it and Ian was prescribed it , but had adverse effects for him so he no longer takes it , plus it can affect your eyes "
My partner used to take it for his back and it worked very well but there can be problems with eyes. Have to be checked yearly |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.
Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site...
It’s nonsense you can’t link to journals "
No you can’t - read the page about links |
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Nhs is trialing it in combination with an antibiotic. Results from other proper trials haven't been good, generally no benefit. It is still worth trailing, it is cheap and easy to make. However the side effects can be pretty nasty so needs to be trialed and if any good targeted carefully. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....
Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit.
Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. "
It was links to sites that may have nasty viruses attached to them...
I think we can call the British medical association website and the lancet website legitimate.... |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit.
Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed. "
I can't delete the post, but bmj and Lancet are high impact scientific journals...
More likely to get a virus from the tabloids than a well respected journal  |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
The research has proved it to be ineffective |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
Bullshit, even the orange clown doesnt mention it any more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....
Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago "
I can post the link but google "Plandemic 1 back online again"
And if it comes up let me know what you thing. Tried to send you a link for your thoughts on it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made."
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too."
actually Remdesivir was developed as a potential ebola drug but was found not to actually help in the clinical trials....
so it was more of a case of trying all the different drugs they had on their records they had that had already been found safe for humans, just to see if they had a ready made drug they already had rather than having to go out and develop one, which is obviously expensive and time consuming |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....
Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago
I can post the link but google "Plandemic 1 back online again"
And if it comes up let me know what you thing. Tried to send you a link for your thoughts on it "
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too."
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
Why are you soo late to the party? This news has been out there for weeks and you have just 'stumbled' across it |
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Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
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Finally the truth |
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The american trial for remdesivir was partially successful. It cut the recover time of moderately ill covid patients, but further studies were binned due to access problems. Meaning it was either too expensive or more likely it couldn't be manufactured in sufficient quantities. |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
Finally the truth "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.
If so, no need for lockdown "
But HCQ is far too cheap. No matter how successful it is, the pharma companies aren't going to make big money from it, which is always their main aim. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.
If so, no need for lockdown "
I bet he asked.....
I bet doctors gave him something to shut him up....
I bet they gave him skittles..... |
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"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.
If so, no need for lockdown "
He's such a stupid dangerous man. Tomorrow he'll say he's stayed clear of it because of his bleach and cleaning fluid injections  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit.
Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.
I can't delete the post, but bmj and Lancet are high impact scientific journals...
More likely to get a virus from the tabloids than a well respected journal "
I think its because those sites are for health care professionals not the general public. |
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"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.
If so, no need for lockdown
He's such a stupid dangerous man. Tomorrow he'll say he's stayed clear of it because of his bleach and cleaning fluid injections "
Do you actually thinks he injects bleach or anything like   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
It is a drug used for malaria and has not proved to be successful. Look at USA AND RUSSIA DEATH TOLL. Think you may want to re think your post |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Umm given the HUGE list of side effects of this particular drug it’s not really a viable option long term.
And I’d take any figures that come out of China or Russia with a nice big pinch of salt. |
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Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!
Anyone who would take trumps advice on medical issues or anything else which for that matter is lacking in smarts! Then again, he has raised awareness of the word, tremendous, which he uses everyother sentence. |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
It is a drug used for malaria and has not proved to be successful. Look at USA AND RUSSIA DEATH TOLL. Think you may want to re think your post"
You may find this interesting:
Deaths per million of population:
UK 513
USA 278 |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
Yes, research is a good idea.
Like, Trump's connection to companies behind the anti-malarial drug. |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
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"Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!
Anyone who would take trumps advice on medical issues or anything else which for that matter is lacking in smarts! Then again, he has raised awareness of the word, tremendous, which he uses everyother sentence. "
Miniscule if any and he doesn't control the trust funds either, they are managed by JP Morgan, he wouldn't have a say where mutual funds are invested. So that statement is mostly false. Thankyou Snopes for the info. |
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"Funny enough Trump has admitted to taking this. So obviously it must be the answer.
If so, no need for lockdown
He's such a stupid dangerous man. Tomorrow he'll say he's stayed clear of it because of his bleach and cleaning fluid injections
Do you actually thinks he injects bleach or anything like "
I'm guessing he doesn't take bleach and cleaning fluids but his announcement on this medication is stupid enough. He says a lot for impact and attention of course, including lies |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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Deaths per million of population:
UK 513
USA 278
Your source for these figures?
Do they use the same definition for "covid death"?
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Source for this info is www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ you may find it enlightening. |
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"Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!
Anyone who would take trumps advice on medical issues or anything else which for that matter is lacking in smarts! Then again, he has raised awareness of the word, tremendous, which he uses everyother sentence.
Miniscule if any and he doesn't control the trust funds either, they are managed by JP Morgan, he wouldn't have a say where mutual funds are invested. So that statement is mostly false. Thankyou Snopes for the info. "
Yes, his alleged financial interest in this appears to be a red herring
According to Forbes the value of Trump’s Sanofi holdings is less than $3,000; out of a total net worth at $2.1 billion |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
What’s the source saying this drug can do more harm than good ? For myself and many others its not a choice, we take this in small dose every day of our lives and much larger dose a few times a year
Currently on Paludrine 100mg daily 500mg daily when Ill and sometimes need a booster of 2000 |
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"What’s the source saying this drug can do more harm than good ? For myself and many others its not a choice, we take this in small dose every day of our lives and much larger dose a few times a year
Currently on Paludrine 100mg daily 500mg daily when Ill and sometimes need a booster of 2000"
It isn’t the same drug as Hydroxychloroquine but if you are referring to anti-malarial drugs in general then I personally wouldn’t be worried. The side effects are limited and it isn’t contra-indicated unless renal impairment is an issue.
In terms of Hydroxychloroquine being ineffective that really is still not an assumption that can be made.
I have said previously we are looking at using it in combination with Toclizumab for not only anti-viral effect but because one of the key problems in critically unwell patients with confirmed Covid-19 is cytokine storm.
It’s hoped the immunomodulatory effects of both drugs will help with inhibiting interleukin 6 and reducing inflammatory effects of Covid acquired pneumonia (There are a number of other benefits)
In terms of it being used as a preventive measure there may not be evidence to justify this as yet, however I would ignore a lot of the information you are hearing on one; how it’s unsafe to take for it’s NICE approved indication and two; people saying it has been confirmed ineffective.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Suppose its the same as saying the bloke from the swinging site says it true lol.
Except he Is the most powerful man on the planet."
?He’s in Putins back pocket! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did you know Trump has investments in his cure all elixir!!!
Anyone who would take trumps advice on medical issues or anything else which for that matter is lacking in smarts! Then again, he has raised awareness of the word, tremendous, which he uses everyother sentence.
Miniscule if any and he doesn't control the trust funds either, they are managed by JP Morgan, he wouldn't have a say where mutual funds are invested. So that statement is mostly false. Thankyou Snopes for the info.
Yes, his alleged financial interest in this appears to be a red herring
According to Forbes the value of Trump’s Sanofi holdings is less than $3,000; out of a total net worth at $2.1 billion"
There is more to it than his investment! Sanofi are being backed by the US for a vaccine. Any publicity that boosts their coffers skill work in the USs favour if they do develop the first vaccine. Da Ifi is a French Company but they have already told the French Government to form a queue behind the US. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Bullshit, even the orange clown doesnt mention it any more."
He's confirmed that he's using it for the last 2 nights in his daily comic show. Apparently those that need it for medical reasons are having issues sourcing it because Trump's idiot followers are all buying it up to take. He'll be personally responsible for the deaths of more than just Covid patients. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Bullshit, even the orange clown doesnt mention it any more.
He's confirmed that he's using it for the last 2 nights in his daily comic show. Apparently those that need it for medical reasons are having issues sourcing it because Trump's idiot followers are all buying it up to take. He'll be personally responsible for the deaths of more than just Covid patients."
the us govt bought 30million doses of the stuff from india "just in case" it worked..
hey.. they dont shift themselves unless he pipes up!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
If they are using it that is very interesting because every major big time study they have done says not only does it not help, but actually it can do harm to Covid patients....
Why do you think trump stopped pushing it as his miracle cure about 3-4 weeks ago
I can post the link but google "Plandemic 1 back online again"
And if it comes up let me know what you thing. Tried to send you a link for your thoughts on it
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I bet you were the only one who checked it out |
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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago
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"When Trump was talking about it the other night, he sounded like one of those travelling snake oil merchants rolling in to town......  "
When the trails are complete Trump is going to be even more unbearable if it turns out his scientific mind was right |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When Trump was talking about it the other night, he sounded like one of those travelling snake oil merchants rolling in to town......
When the trails are complete Trump is going to be even more unbearable if it turns out his scientific mind was right "
He is mad as a hatter but for him to be committing on this ...there is something more then he had just dreamt up |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"36k death divided by the UK population and what do you get?
0.0005% death rate or 99.995 survival rate.
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Err no, to get that figure wildly and inaccurately presumes the whole of the UK has had the virus. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
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The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group."
Glad you got better. Looks like the un named anti viral was Remdesivir as it has been approved by the nhs for use today. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group."
I wasn’t debating that, I was merely implying ACTT was closed to recruitment and other treatment options were being explored.
Indeed correct with second a randomisation if progressive covid (as evidenced by hypoxia and inflammatory state) occurs.
There are in fact much newer treatment options that are being explored however, the catalyst study being an example.
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group.
I wasn’t debating that, I was merely implying ACTT was closed to recruitment and other treatment options were being explored.
Indeed correct with second a randomisation if progressive covid (as evidenced by hypoxia and inflammatory state) occurs.
There are in fact much newer treatment options that are being explored however, the catalyst study being an example.
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Chill out mate, I was only adding more info to what you provided, not challenging it. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group.
I wasn’t debating that, I was merely implying ACTT was closed to recruitment and other treatment options were being explored.
Indeed correct with second a randomisation if progressive covid (as evidenced by hypoxia and inflammatory state) occurs.
There are in fact much newer treatment options that are being explored however, the catalyst study being an example.
Chill out mate, I was only adding more info to what you provided, not challenging it."
Absolutely, apologies if it seemed abrupt. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group.
Glad you got better. Looks like the un named anti viral was Remdesivir as it has been approved by the nhs for use today."
No, it wasnt one of them. There was a HIV drug (lopinavir-Ritonavir) which could be the unnamed one. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
Great success but it's a cheap drug.
They are pushing the remdesivir because it's a lot more expensive, from gilead, and more money can be made.
Remdesivir and other anti virals are more promising as they have been used successfully with other viruses. HQ and the antibiotic have no real evidence just anecdotal. Potential sideaffects are worse too.
Actually Remedesivir isn’t being “pushed” at all, the ACTT study is currently not open to further recruitment and has not shown any real promise.
The REMAP-CAP and RECOVERY studies have now commenced in which Toclizumab will be used in conjunction with Hydroxychloroquine and an unnamed anti-retroviral.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation on here, I understand as not everyone works in the field but I assure you most viable treatment options are currently going through clinical trials as we speak.
The Recovery study was underway at least 8 weeks ago, I was in hospital with Covid-19 at the time and took part in the trial.
Each subject was randomly assigned to one of the 3 drugs or a placebo (so 4 options all in) I was assigned to the Hydroxychloroquine group.
Glad you got better. Looks like the un named anti viral was Remdesivir as it has been approved by the nhs for use today.
No, it wasnt one of them. There was a HIV drug (lopinavir-Ritonavir) which could be the unnamed one. "
Indeed lopinavir-ritonavir was an arm. However remember as an open label, multi centre adaptive study; arms can be added. |
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"Amy Klobuchar's husband has just been treated with it sucssesfuly for covid, but of course you won't hear about it because it doesn't fit the narrative the media wants to push. "
How did you hear about it then, are you related? |
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"Amy Klobuchar's husband has just been treated with it sucssesfuly for covid, but of course you won't hear about it because it doesn't fit the narrative the media wants to push. "
Very true, HCQ has been very successful for many but it's a cheap cure that goes against the media's narrative. |
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"Amy Klobuchar's husband has just been treated with it sucssesfuly for covid, but of course you won't hear about it because it doesn't fit the narrative the media wants to push.
Very true, HCQ has been very successful for many but it's a cheap cure that goes against the media's narrative."
Possibly or the fact it has quite a few side effects such as heart attacks and retina damage. Probably the main reason is it doesn't work. |
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@blondeblackwood
Like I say, you can find these things out if you do I bit of digging, and not just take at face value everything the likes of piers Morgan and others want you to belive. There is also another Dem rep who says it saved her life, the inteview is out there if you can be bothered to look for it. |
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"BREAKING REPORT: ICMR finds HCQ [Hydroxychloroquine] is effective in preventing coronavirus, expands its use..."
Tested on 334 people, health care workers. They haven't released the data. They just said despite the increase in heart problems HCQ decreased the chance of becoming ill with covid. I am very suspicious about the study for 3 reasons. First no raw data or test details have been released and they don't seem to want to release them. Secondly 334 is a very small test sample, small samples mean greater errors. Thirdly you do know which country makes the most HCQ in the world, yes india. |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
Ive been on it for many years as part of my treatment for rheumatoid arthritis.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe it does work? |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
I saw a news report recently that the world health org are saying it doesn't work and stopped testing it.
China have been using Aids drug to good effect, some good immune response.
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
Really??
Russia is heading towards a colossal death rate and rates of infection. They could overtake the USA!
Their health services are poor, unless you have Money to pay your own way.
They have massive underfunding in even the basics, let alone PPE stocks.
Meanwhile, spending on missiles and other areas of Defence, are increasing at the cost of Health. |
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"Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people.
Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people"
Ffs, you can't equate tyranny to trying to control a highly infectious disease. Of course, your probably well versed in knowing the meaning of tyranny but I suspect your medical qualifications came in a 'lucky bag'. |
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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago
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"Ive been on it for many years as part of my treatment for rheumatoid arthritis.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe it does work? "
I've been eating Jaffa Cakes for many years as part of my daily tea break routine.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe they also prevent it? |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"Ive been on it for many years as part of my treatment for rheumatoid arthritis.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe it does work?
I've been eating Jaffa Cakes for many years as part of my daily tea break routine.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe they also prevent it?"
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By *ouple 71Couple
over a year ago
Stonehaven |
"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit.
Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.
I can't delete the post, but bmj and Lancet are high impact scientific journals...
More likely to get a virus from the tabloids than a well respected journal "
. I’m sticking to the high impact peer reviewed science rather than the rumours and trump. |
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"Ive been on it for many years as part of my treatment for rheumatoid arthritis.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe it does work?
I've been eating Jaffa Cakes for many years as part of my daily tea break routine.
I haven't got or had corona so maybe they also prevent it?"
I've been eating breakfast cereal every day for years and not got covid, so that proves muesli is effective to give immunity... |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself"
funny how this transpired isnt it?
trumpturd sales pitch "try it, just try it.What do you have to lose?!" |
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"Have anyone heard of this???
Trump mentioned this as a cure couple of weeks ago.
Funny how France, Russia, China and America are using this treatment with great success.
But yet no mention of this is this country. Research it and find out for yourself
funny how this transpired isnt it?
trumpturd sales pitch "try it, just try it.What do you have to lose?!""
The research on it didn't produce great results though. Other treatments fared well and some are now used widely |
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Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.
Why can’t you link to journals? Wikipedia and news are allowed in the rules? I certainly wouldn’t consider the leading journal of medicine a spam site...
It’s nonsense you can’t link to journals "
It's bad enough already, can you imagine posts from FAB scientists with dozens of links proving, without doubt, their thoughts are 100% correct.
Be glad when we return to a swingers site.  |
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"Forget tabloids and reference to shoddy news channels, here is science:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-
2600(20)30172-7/fulltext
No benefit.
Btw scientific journal links are not allowed here , very specific rules on link you will get a forum ban unless it’s removed.
It was links to sites that may have nasty viruses attached to them...
I think we can call the British medical association website and the lancet website legitimate...."
Nasty viruses attached....shit, so not just Covid we need to worry about, FAB19 on it's way.
Will wipe the screen before reading.
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"Umm given the HUGE list of side effects of this particular drug it’s not really a viable option long term.
And I’d take any figures that come out of China or Russia with a nice big pinch of salt. "
Don't most prescribed drugs come with a huge list of potential side effects?? |
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