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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
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over a year ago
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"Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
Rant over, happy Friday "
Might of helped if we hadn't had such a high death rate and a fucking shambles of a response. |
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We agree with you on a whole. When you look at death figures out of the total population, the percentage of deaths is extremely low.
The country needs to get back to normality.
The lockdown was done to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. Hospitals are now sat empty.
Everything in life carries risk. It's time people used their own common sense, and took responsibility for themselves a little. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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Not at ok it’s well know that negativity gets more voice in media forums etc, the positive ones are just getting on with it. Personally we don’t need any advice from the thick-as-shit clown of a pm , We do our own thing, always have |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do. |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
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over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings"
Nor did some nhs staff, or care home workers what choice were they given, none. |
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“ We're more in control of this virus than many think.
It's sad to see people paralysed with fear and so negative about the future.
We'll adapt, we always do.
Keep your head up, things already feel a lot more normal - if we're all sensible, it will continue to improve.“ - Prof Karol Sikora |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
Masked and Distant |
"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings"
Because of the massive amount of negativity? 0.27% of the population according to ONS (not the government the ONS) have covid 19. Dont need to be a maths teacher to figure out that means 99.73% dont have it. |
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over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
But the government didn't give me step by step instructions how to put my shoes on. Which shoes? Can I wear my shoes in the bath? Do the shoes have to match? |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
Masked and Distant |
"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Nor did some nhs staff, or care home workers what choice were they given, none."
Because they knew they had a job to do. NHS parent the only people working through all this, supermarkets for instance, I feel much more of a risk than other places. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"“ We're more in control of this virus than many think.
It's sad to see people paralysed with fear and so negative about the future.
We'll adapt, we always do.
Keep your head up, things already feel a lot more normal - if we're all sensible, it will continue to improve.“ - Prof Karol Sikora "
And if we all start to take responsibility for our own actions. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
But the government didn't give me step by step instructions how to put my shoes on. Which shoes? Can I wear my shoes in the bath? Do the shoes have to match? "
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Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings"
Evidence for that claim? The usual suspects in the media have done its job again... demonise teachers. Fantastic, give it a while, nurses and doctors will get a pasting again when this is over. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc. "
And I bet more people are like that than the media are portraying.
If only they put as much effort into finding positive stories. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Evidence for that claim? The usual suspects in the media have done its job again... demonise teachers. Fantastic, give it a while, nurses and doctors will get a pasting again when this is over. "
And it will all be in the public interest, and nothing to do with circulation numbers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Evidence for that claim? The usual suspects in the media have done its job again... demonise teachers. Fantastic, give it a while, nurses and doctors will get a pasting again when this is over.
And it will all be in the public interest, and nothing to do with circulation numbers."
People need to stop calling for it then. Daily Mail having a go at the Police today. Be funny if it wasn't so predictable |
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"“ We're more in control of this virus than many think.
It's sad to see people paralysed with fear and so negative about the future.
We'll adapt, we always do.
Keep your head up, things already feel a lot more normal - if we're all sensible, it will continue to improve.“ - Prof Karol Sikora "
. Totally agree with you people are not looking at the facts undoubtedly there are certain underlying health things if you have them you will need to take extra care but the vast majority of the population have very little to worry about as regards corona to there own health |
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over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
I guess if it's govt advice then procurement of ppe is relative to that (type, pricing, responsibility for provision by employers rather than individuals etc). |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Evidence for that claim? The usual suspects in the media have done its job again... demonise teachers. Fantastic, give it a while, nurses and doctors will get a pasting again when this is over. "
Several friends and relatives, teaching unions, teachers visiting GP surgeries with anxiety symptoms. I'm not demonising teachers, I'm saying many do not want to go back as their anxiety has increased and lead to the flight instinct. Meanwhile other sectors are working. |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Evidence for that claim? The usual suspects in the media have done its job again... demonise teachers. Fantastic, give it a while, nurses and doctors will get a pasting again when this is over.
Several friends and relatives, teaching unions, teachers visiting GP surgeries with anxiety symptoms. I'm not demonising teachers, I'm saying many do not want to go back as their anxiety has increased and lead to the flight instinct. Meanwhile other sectors are working. "
Well, needs looking at why then. Funny, I thought teaching was easy |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
Rant over, happy Friday "
People are negative on here anyway it doe annoy me.I am deeply opposed to the nanny state and nanny EU but so many want it they are wimps in my view.Mostly you get out of life what you put into it,ok life is not fair but it never can be |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Nor did some nhs staff, or care home workers what choice were they given, none."
My sister is a nurse and a single mum of two. She's mortgage free and has two other houses she rents out. She was able to resign as she didn't have to worry about money as she wasn't prepared to sacrifice herself, leaving her children alone because her employer wasn't able to supply her with protective gear to do the job.
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over a year ago
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"Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc.
And I bet more people are like that than the media are portraying.
If only they put as much effort into finding positive stories."
to be honest i dont read articles now i read the comments ... there are teachers out there that dont want to to back and parents that dont want to send their kids... but to be honest for the most part when i read these comments it was a “why should we go to school if we cant see our family” rather than anyone actually saying the measures that might go into place were not enough
one even compared cinemas still being closed to schools potentially opening... people dont seem to be able to compartmentalise sections of life off as more important than the other ao go down the path of well if i cant do everything i want to do why should i be doing anything at all |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
yes and these people are supposedly teaching our children yet have no common sense no wonder the youth of today are clever but thick
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"“ We're more in control of this virus than many think.
It's sad to see people paralysed with fear and so negative about the future.
We'll adapt, we always do.
Keep your head up, things already feel a lot more normal - if we're all sensible, it will continue to improve.“ - Prof Karol Sikora "
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"Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc.
And I bet more people are like that than the media are portraying.
If only they put as much effort into finding positive stories."
Many of my colleagues want to go back, few are happier or happy with working from home and teaching online. We teach Science, it's a practical thing and hard to teach well with just online stuff and no equipment. |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do. yes and these people are supposedly teaching our children yet have no common sense no wonder the youth of today are clever but thick
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There we have it....'teachers are shit'.....slow hand clap |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc.
And I bet more people are like that than the media are portraying.
If only they put as much effort into finding positive stories.
Many of my colleagues want to go back, few are happier or happy with working from home and teaching online. We teach Science, it's a practical thing and hard to teach well with just online stuff and no equipment. "
And I know my daughter is struggling to learn independently at home. If she has questions it can take 2 days to get a response.
She is doing work every day but stressing that she cant keep up with the targets set.
Spoke to her year head, "Dont worry, you are doing fine, 95% of pupils haven't done anyhthing" |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do. yes and these people are supposedly teaching our children yet have no common sense no wonder the youth of today are clever but thick
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Dear me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Teachers ..Support staff .. dinner ladies .. office staff have all been going in .ALL THIS TIME ... looking after children .. it’s the guide lines that have been put in place and the no PPE .. that is creating the problem .. also they will not be teaching your children just child minding .. this is not their job.. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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Not a hating teachers thread just that they are the sector at the minute in the public limelight.
Many people have been going in to work all the time.
Our company did risk assessments and put control measures in place, way before any government guidelines, so we could ensure as far as practicably possible we all remained safe.
And lo and behold the government guidelines for our sector look identical to ours.
If only everyone took responsibility for their own safety.
Oh wait. Like the Health and Safety at Work Act says you should do. |
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"Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Here here ..... I’m sick of nothing but negativity coming from the media, with very little in the way of positive or uplifting stories - which is what we (sometimes) need to hear.
I have been party to the truth behind a couple of the COViD-19 stories that have made the headlines, and whilst there is a degree of truth to some of it, the media undoubtedly twist and spin what they know will make a better story ... so stand by the adage .. never let the truth get in the way of a good story!
Makes me believe even less the stories I don’t know about, given the same twist will be applied to them!
R x
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
Rant over, happy Friday "
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"Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc.
And I bet more people are like that than the media are portraying.
If only they put as much effort into finding positive stories.
Many of my colleagues want to go back, few are happier or happy with working from home and teaching online. We teach Science, it's a practical thing and hard to teach well with just online stuff and no equipment.
And I know my daughter is struggling to learn independently at home. If she has questions it can take 2 days to get a response.
She is doing work every day but stressing that she cant keep up with the targets set.
Spoke to her year head, "Dont worry, you are doing fine, 95% of pupils haven't done anyhthing""
Our students have to do things. It's compulsory! My staff are live teaching between 9am and 1pm (plus the odd later session for Latin America) - we are teaching across time zones from -6 to +9. After teaching or around it, staff are answering emails, planning lessons, marking, recording lectures, attending meetings and all the other guff that goes with teaching. They are working more than full time in most cases. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Is it OK that I'm currently working in education in my living room, but wearing sandals?
I'd actually love to go back to work work (rather than living my life through a laptop screen), but FE colleges are not slated to re open any time soon. I'd personally go back tomorrow (well, Monday now) if it was allowed, if it was open etc.
And I bet more people are like that than the media are portraying.
If only they put as much effort into finding positive stories.
Many of my colleagues want to go back, few are happier or happy with working from home and teaching online. We teach Science, it's a practical thing and hard to teach well with just online stuff and no equipment.
And I know my daughter is struggling to learn independently at home. If she has questions it can take 2 days to get a response.
She is doing work every day but stressing that she cant keep up with the targets set.
Spoke to her year head, "Dont worry, you are doing fine, 95% of pupils haven't done anyhthing"
Our students have to do things. It's compulsory! My staff are live teaching between 9am and 1pm (plus the odd later session for Latin America) - we are teaching across time zones from -6 to +9. After teaching or around it, staff are answering emails, planning lessons, marking, recording lectures, attending meetings and all the other guff that goes with teaching. They are working more than full time in most cases. "
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Some primary schools simply don't have the staff available to have all the children return, with social distancing. Given how social distancing means they'll need additional staff for splitting the classes into smaller groups.
I'm planning on my youngest returning in September, this is after the primary school sent, and posted online, a letter, explaining the situation.
(He isn't in key stage 1 or year 6)
We are doing home learning
It looks like collage will go back at some point next month as well, although my daughter is in the high priority groups, so she will return when they do |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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1st June (at earliest) but just for some not all.
July ish for those with exams next year, so again not all.
And it's not Ju e or July yet so need to keep an eye on guidelines and infection rates etc as these dates approach. |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Nor did some nhs staff, or care home workers what choice were they given, none."
Well said. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’ve just watched some one On Facebook who has watched news earlier in week as i don’t watch It saying that unemployment will be 10%
And the Bank of England putting the Rate up to 14%"
i think they might be talking garbage
in time of recession the interest rate goes down to encourage spending and stimulate the economy, a rise in the rate would encourage people with cash to save rather than invest and cause the people without money to default on their mortgages because the payments get too high... it would slow economic recovery hugely and wouldn't bring in anything extra for the government so would be pointless method to recoup what they are shelling out just now
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
But the government didn't give me step by step instructions how to put my shoes on. Which shoes? Can I wear my shoes in the bath? Do the shoes have to match?
Thank god it wasn't Diane Abbot advising on shoes "
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"Not a hating teachers thread just that they are the sector at the minute in the public limelight.
Many people have been going in to work all the time.
Our company did risk assessments and put control measures in place, way before any government guidelines, so we could ensure as far as practicably possible we all remained safe.
And lo and behold the government guidelines for our sector look identical to ours.
If only everyone took responsibility for their own safety.
Oh wait. Like the Health and Safety at Work Act says you should do. "
How many 4 or 5 year olds do you have running round your work place, not listening to advice and snotting and sneezing all over the place.
Controls for adults are easy, for young children not so much |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
But the government didn't give me step by step instructions how to put my shoes on. Which shoes? Can I wear my shoes in the bath? Do the shoes have to match? "
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"“ We're more in control of this virus than many think.
It's sad to see people paralysed with fear and so negative about the future.
We'll adapt, we always do.
Keep your head up, things already feel a lot more normal - if we're all sensible, it will continue to improve.“ - Prof Karol Sikora "
We are and there are people already setting up different business models to adapt to and help with the way things will evolve..
And yes we do adapt, we always have and is the saying that 'necessity is the mother of all inventions' or something..
On the negative point yes there are and were before but I think it's very important to not fall into the trap of stiff upper lip, over the top attitude and all will be well because frankly that's a con truck oft used by people in power to persuade the masses to take the hit..
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
But the government didn't give me step by step instructions how to put my shoes on. Which shoes? Can I wear my shoes in the bath? Do the shoes have to match? "
These are very childish comments.
It's not about government 'advice', it's about the responsibility employers have to give safety guidelines and provide the relevant equipment to their employees.
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
But the government didn't give me step by step instructions how to put my shoes on. Which shoes? Can I wear my shoes in the bath? Do the shoes have to match?
These are very childish comments.
It's not about government 'advice', it's about the responsibility employers have to give safety guidelines and provide the relevant equipment to their employees.
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Why childish? Sounds like we agree. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do. yes and these people are supposedly teaching our children yet have no common sense no wonder the youth of today are clever but thick
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
Suggest you actually read what the teaching unions are asking for rather than the daily fails opinion. |
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"Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
Rant over, happy Friday
Might of helped if we hadn't had such a high death rate and a fucking shambles of a response."
With the highest death rate in Europe, and second only to the US.
despite having weeks aand weeks to coordinate (ha) a response before it hit here.
Yeah. Our 'nanny state' has done us proud. Thing is people will vote this government back in again as a lot of people obviously have the impression that Our Boris/Mr Bo Jangles has done a good job.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha HAAA.
Oh do stop it. This is killing me.
But yeah.
GET BACK TO WORK. it's just a bit worse than flu. Etc.. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
Rant over, happy Friday "
Donkeys led by donkeys. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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So all the new infections since the lockdown I suppose they are the governments fault as well, not the fact that people are not listening and doing as they wish?
The first weekend people have a little freedom, let's wait for the rush to the coast, not the governments fault, its peoples stupidity.
People need to take responsibility for their own safety. Keep away from others and was their hands before picking their nose.
Think you should wear a face covering? Well chuffing wear one, dont wait to be told to wear one. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"So all the new infections since the lockdown I suppose they are the governments fault as well, not the fact that people are not listening and doing as they wish?
The first weekend people have a little freedom, let's wait for the rush to the coast, not the governments fault, its peoples stupidity.
People need to take responsibility for their own safety. Keep away from others and was their hands before picking their nose.
Think you should wear a face covering? Well chuffing wear one, dont wait to be told to wear one."
So you are cheerfully arguing for the removal of all laws. People need to be responsible for their own safety, after all!
Put your thinking cap on.  |
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"So all the new infections since the lockdown I suppose they are the governments fault as well, not the fact that people are not listening and doing as they wish?
The first weekend people have a little freedom, let's wait for the rush to the coast, not the governments fault, its peoples stupidity.
People need to take responsibility for their own safety. Keep away from others and was their hands before picking their nose.
Think you should wear a face covering? Well chuffing wear one, dont wait to be told to wear one."
This is why boris changed his mind and ordered lockdown, after initially trusting us with our health like sweden, they rapidly realised we are not responsible and need telling what to do |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"So all the new infections since the lockdown I suppose they are the governments fault as well, not the fact that people are not listening and doing as they wish?
The first weekend people have a little freedom, let's wait for the rush to the coast, not the governments fault, its peoples stupidity.
People need to take responsibility for their own safety. Keep away from others and was their hands before picking their nose.
Think you should wear a face covering? Well chuffing wear one, dont wait to be told to wear one.
This is why boris changed his mind and ordered lockdown, after initially trusting us with our health like sweden, they rapidly realised we are not responsible and need telling what to do "
You’re wildly overestimating Johnson’s or his government’s thought processes here. The delayed lockdown was driven solely by economic concerns. The idea they had any thoughts concerning the health model and trust is fanciful at best. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
Masked and Distant |
I'd like to thank some for putting words in my mouth. Saves me sorting something to eat for breakfast.
No I'm not demanding all laws or restrictions as they actually are, police have no power to enforce the social distancing in public apparently. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do.
Some teachers just don't want to go back, with or without face coverings
Nor did some nhs staff, or care home workers what choice were they given, none.
Because they knew they had a job to do. NHS parent the only people working through all this, supermarkets for instance, I feel much more of a risk than other places."
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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A government has responsibility for the economics of a country as well.
They have a duty to let their citizens back in to the country.
If we did an India style lockdown from day one how many people would have stuck to it? How many would be on the news complaining about it?
We could have done loads differently at the start of this and for years before it, but various governments (of all sides) didn't and so we are where we are. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I'd like to thank some for putting words in my mouth. Saves me sorting something to eat for breakfast.
No I'm not demanding all laws or restrictions as they actually are, police have no power to enforce the social distancing in public apparently."
Yes you are, you just don’t understand your own argument sufficiently to realise it. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'm interested if those insisting others should be back at work are back at work themselves and in what sector?
Or is this a case of one rule for one..."
Personally I'm in a branch of work where I have to visit (and work) everywhere from building sites, to care and nursing homes, food production plants, social housing, super markets, and schools.
I've worked at home when I can, been to the office when I had to, and been on various sites when needed.
Not once have I been on TV complaining I might have to work. I've gone to work, taken all precauctions I could. But still felt worried I would catch it somehow.
And next week I will be doing more of the same because we need to keep the country working to actually have a country worth fully reopening. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'd like to thank some for putting words in my mouth. Saves me sorting something to eat for breakfast.
No I'm not demanding all laws or restrictions as they actually are, police have no power to enforce the social distancing in public apparently.
Yes you are, you just don’t understand your own argument sufficiently to realise it."
Please tell me what I dont understand about my own argument. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I'd like to thank some for putting words in my mouth. Saves me sorting something to eat for breakfast.
No I'm not demanding all laws or restrictions as they actually are, police have no power to enforce the social distancing in public apparently.
Yes you are, you just don’t understand your own argument sufficiently to realise it.
Please tell me what I dont understand about my own argument. "
Read your first post very carefully, then consider this statement long and hard: ‘There is no need for law where personal responsibility exists.
That is all you need. Out of respect for personal responsibility, I’m sure you appreciate having to work something out for yourself, rather than simply being told the answer!  |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'd like to thank some for putting words in my mouth. Saves me sorting something to eat for breakfast.
No I'm not demanding all laws or restrictions as they actually are, police have no power to enforce the social distancing in public apparently.
Yes you are, you just don’t understand your own argument sufficiently to realise it.
Please tell me what I dont understand about my own argument.
Read your first post very carefully, then consider this statement long and hard: ‘There is no need for law where personal responsibility exists.
That is all you need. Out of respect for personal responsibility, I’m sure you appreciate having to work something out for yourself, rather than simply being told the answer! "
Yes I have read my post thank you.
And I think you dont understand it. But we live in a country where we are both free to think our own things.
My original point was around negativity.
The government haven't said "you must wear a mask" or "you mustn't wear a mask"
People are complaining that they haven't been told to wear one.
Instead of complaining why not just take personal responsibility and wear one?
I'm pretty certain I've been consistent with my thoughts all the way through.
But I am open to discussion and having my mind and opinion changed, a sign of intelligence I've always thought
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By (user no longer on site)
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Considering that countries on the whole have only been testing hospital cases or those with serious symptoms, its known that 80% plus don't show symptoms or only minor symptoms so won't of been tested. There have been over 4 million positive tests worldwide..doesn't that show that in reality a min of 20 million plus have been infected..we believe the exposure and infection with recovery is far higher than many realise. The virus has been around in Europe and probably the UK for almost 5 months...many serious cases early wouldn't of been tested or shown in many countries especially December and January with this in mind we hope we are over the worst..a positive thought... |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Considering that countries on the whole have only been testing hospital cases or those with serious symptoms, its known that 80% plus don't show symptoms or only minor symptoms so won't of been tested. There have been over 4 million positive tests worldwide..doesn't that show that in reality a min of 20 million plus have been infected..we believe the exposure and infection with recovery is far higher than many realise. The virus has been around in Europe and probably the UK for almost 5 months...many serious cases early wouldn't of been tested or shown in many countries especially December and January with this in mind we hope we are over the worst..a positive thought..."
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"Considering that countries on the whole have only been testing hospital cases or those with serious symptoms, its known that 80% plus don't show symptoms or only minor symptoms so won't of been tested. There have been over 4 million positive tests worldwide..doesn't that show that in reality a min of 20 million plus have been infected..we believe the exposure and infection with recovery is far higher than many realise. The virus has been around in Europe and probably the UK for almost 5 months...many serious cases early wouldn't of been tested or shown in many countries especially December and January with this in mind we hope we are over the worst..a positive thought..."
I hope you're right. |
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"Not a hating teachers thread just that they are the sector at the minute in the public limelight.
Many people have been going in to work all the time.
Our company did risk assessments and put control measures in place, way before any government guidelines, so we could ensure as far as practicably possible we all remained safe.
And lo and behold the government guidelines for our sector look identical to ours.
If only everyone took responsibility for their own safety.
Oh wait. Like the Health and Safety at Work Act says you should do.
How many 4 or 5 year olds do you have running round your work place, not listening to advice and snotting and sneezing all over the place.
Controls for adults are easy, for young children not so much"
And therein lies another problem, teachers are unable to control their pupils ? |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Not a hating teachers thread just that they are the sector at the minute in the public limelight.
Many people have been going in to work all the time.
Our company did risk assessments and put control measures in place, way before any government guidelines, so we could ensure as far as practicably possible we all remained safe.
And lo and behold the government guidelines for our sector look identical to ours.
If only everyone took responsibility for their own safety.
Oh wait. Like the Health and Safety at Work Act says you should do.
How many 4 or 5 year olds do you have running round your work place, not listening to advice and snotting and sneezing all over the place.
Controls for adults are easy, for young children not so much
And therein lies another problem, teachers are unable to control their pupils ?"
How about 1/2 of their pupils? |
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"Applying this to teachers, who are all saying "why aren't the government advising us to wear face coverings when we go back?"
Why not just wear them?
The government dont advise you to put your shoes on, but you do."
I think the point is we all need advice on their effectiveness, otherwise a mask will pull people into a false sense of security. |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
leeds |
"We agree with you on a whole. When you look at death figures out of the total population, the percentage of deaths is extremely low.
The country needs to get back to normality.
The lockdown was done to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed.
Hospitals are now sat empty.
Selfish
So just let people die who don't need to die
Everything in life carries risk. It's time people used their own common sense, and took responsibility for themselves a little. "
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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"Considering that countries on the whole have only been testing hospital cases or those with serious symptoms, its known that 80% plus don't show symptoms or only minor symptoms so won't of been tested. There have been over 4 million positive tests worldwide..doesn't that show that in reality a min of 20 million plus have been infected..we believe the exposure and infection with recovery is far higher than many realise. The virus has been around in Europe and probably the UK for almost 5 months...many serious cases early wouldn't of been tested or shown in many countries especially December and January with this in mind we hope we are over the worst..a positive thought..."
That is how I am thinking also |
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"I'd like to thank some for putting words in my mouth. Saves me sorting something to eat for breakfast.
No I'm not demanding all laws or restrictions as they actually are, police have no power to enforce the social distancing in public apparently.
Yes you are, you just don’t understand your own argument sufficiently to realise it.
Please tell me what I dont understand about my own argument.
Read your first post very carefully, then consider this statement long and hard: ‘There is no need for law where personal responsibility exists.
That is all you need. Out of respect for personal responsibility, I’m sure you appreciate having to work something out for yourself, rather than simply being told the answer!
Yes I have read my post thank you.
And I think you dont understand it. But we live in a country where we are both free to think our own things.
My original point was around negativity.
The government haven't said "you must wear a mask" or "you mustn't wear a mask"
People are complaining that they haven't been told to wear one.
Instead of complaining why not just take personal responsibility and wear one?
I'm pretty certain I've been consistent with my thoughts all the way through.
But I am open to discussion and having my mind and opinion changed, a sign of intelligence I've always thought
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"Has the virus turned the nation into a "I cant do this" country?
Everyone whinging about what they cant do, needing exact guidance in how to do things, refusing to do things until they are told exactly how to do things.
How do you catch the virus?
Through close physical contact with others. By touching your face with unclean hands after touching an infected surface.
Do risk assessments, eliminate the risks as far as possible and get back to doing things.
Keep 2m apart where possible.
Dont sit face to face in offices.
Put physical barriers between you and others (face coverings are just one kind of physical barrier).
Weve complained about the Nanny state for long enough, get a grip and get the country moving again.
Rant over, happy Friday
Might of helped if we hadn't had such a high death rate and a fucking shambles of a response.
With the highest death rate in Europe, and second only to the US.
despite having weeks aand weeks to coordinate (ha) a response before it hit here.
Yeah. Our 'nanny state' has done us proud. Thing is people will vote this government back in again as a lot of people obviously have the impression that Our Boris/Mr Bo Jangles has done a good job.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha HAAA.
Oh do stop it. This is killing me.
But yeah.
GET BACK TO WORK. it's just a bit worse than flu. Etc.. "
With 4.5 years to go until their next planned GE and you have given up already. Starmer should win with a huge majority. Italy has the highest death toll in the EU I expect their opposition party's will be getting ready for power |
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"“ We're more in control of this virus than many think.
It's sad to see people paralysed with fear and so negative about the future.
We'll adapt, we always do.
Keep your head up, things already feel a lot more normal - if we're all sensible, it will continue to improve.“ - Prof Karol Sikora "
Prof Karol Sikora who Imperial College London took legal action against for him falsely claiming to have an honorary professorship in oncology from them you mean?
Prof Karol Sikora who, on behalf of his friend Saif Gadhafi, helped free the Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Al Megrahi because he only had three months to live, he lkived more than three years?
Prof Karol Sikora who spends large amounts of his time castigating the NHS for their treatment of cancer patients while at the same time touting the services of his very lucrative Cancer Partners UK to all and sundry?
Prof Karol Sikora who has spent years advocating homeopathy and 'alternative medicine' as treatment for cancer?
If it's that Prof Karol Sikora then I'm not inclined to believe a word that comes out of his exceptionally well remunerated mouth. |
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“ Things seemed bleak six weeks ago, but there was always a light at the end of the tunnel.
The situation will continue to improve.
If we all show some common sense, life will feel so much more normal by the end of June.
Hope is still the best motivator!” |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Thank god it wasn't Diane Abbot advising on shoes
Seriously still going on about this Photoshop picture. It's hilarious to think people actually believe this. "
Didn't think lose your sense of humour was a requirement of the current covid secure measures. |
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