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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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We're bejng told to stay at home, with everything shut and locked down for only 24 new cases out of a population of 7 million?
I dont understand how such a small number of new cases warrants this lockdown and disruption to our lives
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s exactly because of the disruption that this number has reached this low. I think this could be the most idiotic post I’ve read all week. Would u be happier if thousands more were diagnosed with it today instead ? Would that then justify the lockdown for u ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We're bejng told to stay at home, with everything shut and locked down for only 24 new cases out of a population of 7 million?
I dont understand how such a small number of new cases warrants this lockdown and disruption to our lives
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Are you d*unk ? It's a little early for me  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s exactly because of the disruption that this number has reached this low. I think this could be the most idiotic post I’ve read all week. Would u be happier if thousands more were diagnosed with it today instead ? Would that then justify the lockdown for u ? "
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They need time to sort the statistics, labs are still behind processing the tests, we won't get an accurate result till next week. on the cobr graphs they explain that there will be many more new cases that they haven't caught up with counting , it's the same as the misleading daily death rate count with late registration etc |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It’s exactly because of the disruption that this number has reached this low. I think this could be the most idiotic post I’ve read all week. Would u be happier if thousands more were diagnosed with it today instead ? Would that then justify the lockdown for u ? "
Didnt take long for rudeness to come out did it?
Yes, I dont think the microscopic number of new cases warrant the level of lockdown we are experiencing today.
There are still probably close to 1 million people, maybe more out and travelling to work, using transport, going to shops or whatever everyday. And even with this reduced number of people being out and within social distancing guideline breaches, 24 new cases does not justify this strict lockdown we have right now.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The DOH quoted 3466 new cases as of 9am yesterday, is that better for you?
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You dont need to be condescending. I did ask if I was missing something. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"They need time to sort the statistics, labs are still behind processing the tests, we won't get an accurate result till next week. on the cobr graphs they explain that there will be many more new cases that they haven't caught up with counting , it's the same as the misleading daily death rate count with late registration etc"
Fair enough. But even if they are behind on counting the numbers, 24 seems very low to me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Surely that's 24 known cases a day. Most people have no symptoms which will be spreading the virus right now on those packed tubes. And London is only one part of the UK, the UK is not London. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Some people really don’t get it !!!! all those people who have Sadly lost their lives, should tell you all you need to Know."
I do get it, and I know people who have lost their lives, and it is tragic. It was a higher risk, we locked down because we had to, and now the numbers are tiny, so time to open up again right? |
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The problem we have at present is hospitals are having patients come in with Covid symptoms they are swobbed then if they can manage ie there own airway and breath ok they are sent home and told not to go out. That way they don’t form part of admit to hospital as they don’t have a BED they get test results a few days later and still left at home to self manage or till they have to be admitted. They then register as admitted and have a BED this has been going on for weeks to get hospital admissions down. |
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By *ncubus XMan
over a year ago
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something? "
Well if R rate goes back to 3.6 then 24 soone becomes 10000 |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The problem we have at present is hospitals are having patients come in with Covid symptoms they are swobbed then if they can manage ie there own airway and breath ok they are sent home and told not to go out. That way they don’t form part of admit to hospital as they don’t have a BED they get test results a few days later and still left at home to self manage or till they have to be admitted. They then register as admitted and have a BED this has been going on for weeks to get hospital admissions down. "
This is also true, this happened to my friends dad, but they should still be counted in the new cases if they test positive right?
Again 24 seems very very small |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The problem is that it’s so infectious. There will be a second wave in 1-2 months after restrictions relax because people are crap at hygiene. And kids don’t understand at all!"
I agree with this, but at what point should we open things up. I would like to think that a number as low as 24 new cases a day is a good point to do so |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some people really don’t get it !!!! all those people who have Sadly lost their lives, should tell you all you need to Know.
I do get it, and I know people who have lost their lives, and it is tragic. It was a higher risk, we locked down because we had to, and now the numbers are tiny, so time to open up again right?"
Now that’s an entirely different question. That’s not what u were saying in your first post. |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Some people really don’t get it !!!! all those people who have Sadly lost their lives, should tell you all you need to Know.
I do get it, and I know people who have lost their lives, and it is tragic. It was a higher risk, we locked down because we had to, and now the numbers are tiny, so time to open up again right?
Now that’s an entirely different question. That’s not what u were saying in your first post. "
Yes it was. We havent just suddenly reached 24 new cases a day from thousands, its been gradual right?
So perhaps we should have opened up gradually earlier. Anyway, thats irrelevant now, I still think that with such a tiny tiny number of new cases, we should be opening up pretty much everything |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time."
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time.
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think"
To be fair that is what they are trying to do. Lets see if the numbers remain low in 2 weeks time. Hopefully it will stay below 1. There are a lot more people mooching around now so the boundaries are being tested. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time.
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think"
But isn’t that exactly what is already happening ? Or do u mean u want an immediate over night return to complete normality with no social distancing what so ever ? |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time.
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think
But isn’t that exactly what is already happening ? Or do u mean u want an immediate over night return to complete normality with no social distancing what so ever ?"
Not immediate, but not as slow as we have now either.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark."
Thats a reasonable linear calculation, but not factual if we believe the article.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark."
Your science is wrong surely ? It’s not a totally even spread across the country. There are hotspots and places will peak at different times. They have diagnosed those 3446 new cases so know exactly where they are. Obviously there will be many many cases not diagnosed but the numbers suggest that London is now the least affected area for new cases. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time.
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think
To be fair that is what they are trying to do. Lets see if the numbers remain low in 2 weeks time. Hopefully it will stay below 1. There are a lot more people mooching around now so the boundaries are being tested."
Yes, I see your point, but its too slow if the number of new cases really is 24 in London.
Also, bear in mind, that people in London are still crammed in packed tubes, buses etc, and have been for many weeks. So again, 24 seems postively, very low. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time.
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think
But isn’t that exactly what is already happening ? Or do u mean u want an immediate over night return to complete normality with no social distancing what so ever ?
Not immediate, but not as slow as we have now either.
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Right ok, so in your opinion what level of lockdown restriction easing should be happening now ? And I presume u mean London only, u want a different lockdown procedure in different geographical areas ? |
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something? "
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
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No problem, tell me what it is |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So how long should we stay locked down for? Until zero cases for 3 months?
0.27% of the population infected (possibly Upton 0.41%). That's between 140,000 to 273,000 people out of a country of 67 million.
If some people are waiting for zero infections, they are going to be inside for a long time.
Exactly, thats my point. Time to open up I think
But isn’t that exactly what is already happening ? Or do u mean u want an immediate over night return to complete normality with no social distancing what so ever ?
Not immediate, but not as slow as we have now either.
Right ok, so in your opinion what level of lockdown restriction easing should be happening now ? And I presume u mean London only, u want a different lockdown procedure in different geographical areas ? "
I knew you'd say that
I dont know, but its not my job to either. I'd like to think that such a small number would have lead or will very quickly lead to social activities, normal life opening up a lot quicker |
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That figure, and the right-leaning press that are reporting it is pure fantasy. It is not based on real figures but modelling, using the lowest possible version of R (out of a potential range), and uses the very smallest definition of London (ie, ‘The City‘). The whole point is to attempt to get stimulate the kind of reaction expressed by the OP and others and London back to work. The spike in London was naturally ahead of the rest of the country, so it will also naturally flatten off quicker, but this is irresponsible reporting which is, like the rest of the speculation that has been bandied about all to do with building complacency among the expendables. |
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
No problem, tell me what it is"
You know how a virus spreads, yes? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"That figure, and the right-leaning press that are reporting it is pure fantasy. It is not based on real figures but modelling, using the lowest possible version of R (out of a potential range), and uses the very smallest definition of London (ie, ‘The City‘). The whole point is to attempt to get stimulate the kind of reaction expressed by the OP and others and London back to work. The spike in London was naturally ahead of the rest of the country, so it will also naturally flatten off quicker, but this is irresponsible reporting which is, like the rest of the speculation that has been bandied about all to do with building complacency among the expendables. "
Thats interesting, didnt appreciate the smallest definition part, its good to know |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
No problem, tell me what it is
You know how a virus spreads, yes?"
Only from what we've been told with respect to R.
Would prefer for you to tell me what I'm missing than asking me questions |
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
No problem, tell me what it is
You know how a virus spreads, yes?
Only from what we've been told with respect to R.
Would prefer for you to tell me what I'm missing than asking me questions"
I'd like to be able to phrase my answer in a way you'd understand, hence the question. Singular. Not plural.
Do you understand why we are social distancing? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
No problem, tell me what it is
You know how a virus spreads, yes?
Only from what we've been told with respect to R.
Would prefer for you to tell me what I'm missing than asking me questions
I'd like to be able to phrase my answer in a way you'd understand, hence the question. Singular. Not plural.
Do you understand why we are social distancing?"
You dont need to be patronising.
Yes I do, it seemed to have worked, but if these figures are true, time to open up more right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
No problem, tell me what it is
You know how a virus spreads, yes?
Only from what we've been told with respect to R.
Would prefer for you to tell me what I'm missing than asking me questions
I'd like to be able to phrase my answer in a way you'd understand, hence the question. Singular. Not plural.
Do you understand why we are social distancing?
You dont need to be patronising.
Yes I do, it seemed to have worked, but if these figures are true, time to open up more right?"
I don’t understand what more you want to be opening ? We are easing lockdown gradually in stages and already there’s been changes this week. What more exactly do u want to see ‘opened up’ ? |
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something?
Yes. You're definitely missing something.
No problem, tell me what it is
You know how a virus spreads, yes?
Only from what we've been told with respect to R.
Would prefer for you to tell me what I'm missing than asking me questions
I'd like to be able to phrase my answer in a way you'd understand, hence the question. Singular. Not plural.
Do you understand why we are social distancing?
You dont need to be patronising.
Yes I do, it seemed to have worked, but if these figures are true, time to open up more right?"
Great, you've answered your own question.
Time to open up? IMHO, no.
History would suggest it's not a good idea to fully open up again.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What a load of 'Drama-Queens'!!!
The lock-down was imposed, NOT til the virus was erradicated, or a vaccine found, it was introduced so the NHS could handle the cases coming to light, effectively.
This has been achieved, with most of our ICUs under populated, and the overflow hospitals in mothballs.
Let's hope people's stupidity isn't as contageous as the virus. |
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R is still high in other parts of the country. Lifting lockdown in London but not elsewhere is not going to work, people will be resentful or even come to London to enjoy having more freedom and being the virus back here.
Just be patient. |
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"R is still high in other parts of the country. Lifting lockdown in London but not elsewhere is not going to work, people will be resentful or even come to London to enjoy having more freedom and being the virus back here.
Just be patient. "
Exactly this. The it’s not time to open the taps because we have no idea of where the tipping
point might be. Half empty ICUs are a good thing. We shouldn’t aim to have them all full but even emptier. How about having no new cases a day? For a few weeks. That’s what we should be aiming for, not knee jerk reactions to sensationalist headlines, by the press who want to kick start the economy so their owners can start to make a mint again. |
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We sirt of get what you're saying OP
When you look at death figures out of the total population, the percentage of deaths is extremely low.
The country needs to get back to normality.
The lockdown was done to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. Hospitals are now sat empty.
Everything in life carries a percentage of risk. It's time people used their own common sense, and took responsibility for themselves.
Media is portraying negativity, some people believe the media totally and don't look at the bigger picture. What about the thousands and thousands of people who have had Covid and recovered.
The country needs to be back up and running again. |
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something? "
That's in London but it might go back up with the use of public transport. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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Why is it so many here seem to scoff at good news and embrace bad news?
The number of cases is falling ok this might rise again but lets embrace the good news it means we are getting things right.
Fact is that if your young you have virtually nothing to fear and people over 80 are on borrowed time anyway that is reality.This thing is bad but never as bad as we are lead to be leave.
I am scared yes but in my sixties,if in my 20's would be wanting normality,this is an anti pensioners decease in the main. |
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"It’s exactly because of the disruption that this number has reached this low. I think this could be the most idiotic post I’ve read all week. Would u be happier if thousands more were diagnosed with it today instead ? Would that then justify the lockdown for u ?
Didnt take long for rudeness to come out did it?
Yes, I dont think the microscopic number of new cases warrant the level of lockdown we are experiencing today.
There are still probably close to 1 million people, maybe more out and travelling to work, using transport, going to shops or whatever everyday. And even with this reduced number of people being out and within social distancing guideline breaches, 24 new cases does not justify this strict lockdown we have right now.
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We got this low number (if it’s to be believed) because of the strict rules. You have more freedom this week to walk, cycle, play sport with one other person, sit in the park and have a picnic. What more do you want, enjoy the simple things, appreciate them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We sirt of get what you're saying OP
When you look at death figures out of the total population, the percentage of deaths is extremely low.
The country needs to get back to normality.
The lockdown was done to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. Hospitals are now sat empty.
Everything in life carries a percentage of risk. It's time people used their own common sense, and took responsibility for themselves.
Media is portraying negativity, some people believe the media totally and don't look at the bigger picture. What about the thousands and thousands of people who have had Covid and recovered.
The country needs to be back up and running again. "
In an ideal world yes but the consequences would be horrendous  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Thy say this virus has been around since last yr that 85% population already had it and are immune so why put those 85% in lock down"
So they know who the 85% are? None of the scientists know about the immunity or how long people are immune, if they are |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark.
Thats a reasonable linear calculation, but not factual if we believe the article.
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if the spread of the virus was at the same rate across the UK, then you would be right...
but it isn't....
remember at the beginning of this then they reckoned that london was 2-3 weeks ahead of everywhere else "spread wise".... this is why the "r" rate of infection is not the same in all regions of the country..... because they are at different cycles in the spread..
so at the moment the largest amount of infections are in the North-east....... followed by the north west
the situation to give an comparable example is like the us... where the overall rate is slightly down from peak, but if you take new york state out of it which had the biggest number of deaths and the biggest oubreak, the rest of the US numbers would still going up! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark.
Thats a reasonable linear calculation, but not factual if we believe the article.
if the spread of the virus was at the same rate across the UK, then you would be right...
but it isn't....
remember at the beginning of this then they reckoned that london was 2-3 weeks ahead of everywhere else "spread wise".... this is why the "r" rate of infection is not the same in all regions of the country..... because they are at different cycles in the spread..
so at the moment the largest amount of infections are in the North-east....... followed by the north west
the situation to give an comparable example is like the us... where the overall rate is slightly down from peak, but if you take new york state out of it which had the biggest number of deaths and the biggest oubreak, the rest of the US numbers would still going up!"
Why are so many states opening up then?
Because of the terrorists with guns turning up at state governor meetings? |
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Just breaking R has increased in the last few days and that doesn’t ever account for this weeks increased movement. The testing again is woefully inadequate so any case reporting at this point is again critical cases - another totall and utter balls up. What w waste of 7 weeks to ease too soon and will result in another lockdown ..... |
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"Thy say this virus has been around since last yr that 85% population already had it and are immune so why put those 85% in lock dow
Who are they? Do you have a source?
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By *amissCouple
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"Thy say this virus has been around since last yr that 85% population already had it and are immune so why put those 85% in lock dow
Who are they? Do you have a source?
Karen on Facebook "
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"Thy say this virus has been around since last yr that 85% population already had it and are immune so why put those 85% in lock dow
Who are they? Do you have a source?
Karen on Facebook
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Hahaha first time I’ve laughed since Sunday thank you xxx |
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is  "
R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good. |
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is
Where you are?"
Yup
I knew it was coming though...they are like them "thick cut" rashers of bacon here  |
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good. "
Local to you that is...have you searched regions? |
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good. "
This is what I don't understand. They don't have accurate figures for who is getting infected, only the results from people getting tested. Could be hundreds or thousands of people not getting tested, asymptomatic people. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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to put the 24 number into context.... where there were only 24 new cases in london, in the same period there were 4320 new cases in yorkshire and the north east......
in the press conference that reckon that the "R" Rate was about 0.4 in london, whereas the rate in yorkshire and the north east was 0.8
but a word of caution.... the R figure works on about a 14-21 day lag...... so we wont find out for 3 weeks at the earliest what the easing of lockdown has done to the infection rate..... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark.
Thats a reasonable linear calculation, but not factual if we believe the article.
if the spread of the virus was at the same rate across the UK, then you would be right...
but it isn't....
remember at the beginning of this then they reckoned that london was 2-3 weeks ahead of everywhere else "spread wise".... this is why the "r" rate of infection is not the same in all regions of the country..... because they are at different cycles in the spread..
so at the moment the largest amount of infections are in the North-east....... followed by the north west
the situation to give an comparable example is like the us... where the overall rate is slightly down from peak, but if you take new york state out of it which had the biggest number of deaths and the biggest oubreak, the rest of the US numbers would still going up!
Why are so many states opening up then?
Because of the terrorists with guns turning up at state governor meetings? "
why are so many states opening up?
those are political/economic decisions rather than public health ones....
the whitehouse did set out a opening strategy where they suggesting doing it in stages, and having to hit certain criteria to do it...
no state has actually had figures good enough where it would reach phase 1... but (primarily) republican governors under pressure from business decided to do it at speeds quicker...
which has now ended up with the president agrueing against state doing it at the speed his own administration proposed! (most of the states he is having "pops" at just happen to be the ones he needs to win in the next election!)
basically they are prioritising the economic arguements over the public health ones..... |
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"Recorded cases as at 06.30 this morning stands at 233151 an increase of 3446 over the previous day.
As London has around 10% of the U.K population I would venture to suggest a figure 0f 344 new cases in London would be nearer the mark.
Thats a reasonable linear calculation, but not factual if we believe the article.
if the spread of the virus was at the same rate across the UK, then you would be right...
but it isn't....
remember at the beginning of this then they reckoned that london was 2-3 weeks ahead of everywhere else "spread wise".... this is why the "r" rate of infection is not the same in all regions of the country..... because they are at different cycles in the spread..
so at the moment the largest amount of infections are in the North-east....... followed by the north west
the situation to give an comparable example is like the us... where the overall rate is slightly down from peak, but if you take new york state out of it which had the biggest number of deaths and the biggest oubreak, the rest of the US numbers would still going up!
Why are so many states opening up then?
Because of the terrorists with guns turning up at state governor meetings?
why are so many states opening up?
those are political/economic decisions rather than public health ones....
the whitehouse did set out a opening strategy where they suggesting doing it in stages, and having to hit certain criteria to do it...
no state has actually had figures good enough where it would reach phase 1... but (primarily) republican governors under pressure from business decided to do it at speeds quicker...
which has now ended up with the president agrueing against state doing it at the speed his own administration proposed! (most of the states he is having "pops" at just happen to be the ones he needs to win in the next election!)
basically they are prioritising the economic arguements over the public health ones....."
 Hope there isn't a rise in infection rates. |
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"Thy say this virus has been around since last yr that 85% population already had it and are immune so why put those 85% in lock dow
Who are they? Do you have a source?
Karen on Facebook "
Nah it wasn't Kaz it was Baz who told Kaz he heard it from the bloke delivering his Chinese takeaway , So it must be true or is it just Chinese whispers |
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/london-has-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-day/
Are you kidding me?
We've all been walking on eggshells, stuck at home for months for 24 new cases a day???
Am I missing something? "
London is three weeks ahead of the rest of the country, so while it slows now, it hasn't elsewhere. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good. "
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading  |
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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading "
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. |
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By *amissCouple
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. "
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Well that's good for you, not so good for those of us who have lost loved ones... |
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By *arkb73Man
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. ,
Well that's good for you, not so good for those of us who have lost loved ones... "
Death isn’t good for anyone but death is a part of life. It’s horrible and I feel for you. |
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over a year ago
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. ,
Well that's good for you, not so good for those of us who have lost loved ones...
Death isn’t good for anyone but death is a part of life. It’s horrible and I feel for you. "
Not when it's too early... |
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By *arkb73Man
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. ,
Well that's good for you, not so good for those of us who have lost loved ones...
Death isn’t good for anyone but death is a part of life. It’s horrible and I feel for you.
Not when it's too early..."
All death is too early - my dad died at 73 and it felt way too early. |
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. ,
Well that's good for you, not so good for those of us who have lost loved ones...
Death isn’t good for anyone but death is a part of life. It’s horrible and I feel for you.
Not when it's too early...
All death is too early - my dad died at 73 and it felt way too early. "
23 is too early... |
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By *arkb73Man
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""R" Rate now 0.7 to 1.0 so going back up and guess where the 1.0 is R Rate just means more people being infected. People moving around more so virus speading around the young and fit, death rates down hospital ICU down looking good.
No it's not looking good if the infection is spreading
Infection spreads or it wouldn’t be an infection. We’ll all get it in the end and the overwhelming majority of us won’t have a day off. ,
Well that's good for you, not so good for those of us who have lost loved ones...
Death isn’t good for anyone but death is a part of life. It’s horrible and I feel for you.
Not when it's too early...
All death is too early - my dad died at 73 and it felt way too early.
23 is too early..."
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"We're bejng told to stay at home, with everything shut and locked down for only 24 new cases out of a population of 7 million?
I dont understand how such a small number of new cases warrants this lockdown and disruption to our lives
Think youll find its over 60million and that is the effect off staying in
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I was just reading On March 23 – at the peak of contagion when lockdown was announced – 213,000 people a day caught the virus in London. Now it's only around 24 a day.
That doesn't add up to me |
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