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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones? |
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"Homemade masks?! Seriously what would be the point!? Lol!
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How will it stop the virus entering through your eye?"
Exactly total waste of time unless you kit yourself out with what nurses and Doctors have |
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"Homemade masks?! Seriously what would be the point!? Lol!
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How will it stop the virus entering through your eye? Exactly total waste of time unless you kit yourself out with what nurses and Doctors have "
Unless you're dressed in a military grade NBC suit it's all pointless. |
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over a year ago
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Here we will be wearing masks and we hope most people will wear them as it’s not to stop us catching it butt to help others to stop spreading it and if in public places everyone wears one then that diminishes the risk of Covid-19 spreading.
Here now shops can refuse you entry if you are not wearing a mask homemade or otherwise and thankfully people with no masks wear a scarf over their mouths .
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"I've got one covered in chickens, which I will wear when I have colds and hay fever in respect to other people.
How does it stop a virus?"
It's not supposed to stop a virus, it stops me sneezing and coughing on other people |
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"I've got one covered in chickens, which I will wear when I have colds and hay fever in respect to other people.
How does it stop a virus?
It's not supposed to stop a virus, it stops me sneezing and coughing on other people"
Is your breath filtered down to a viral level some how? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Because masks have a proven value in protecting others from you
Masks at what standard? And how often should they be replaced?"
WHO and many others have already proven that wearing a mask slows down saliva droplets and the cloud of smaller droplets if a cough is made behind one.
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"I've got one covered in chickens, which I will wear when I have colds and hay fever in respect to other people.
How does it stop a virus?
It's not supposed to stop a virus, it stops me sneezing and coughing on other people
Is your breath filtered down to a viral level some how?"
It doesn't need to be filtered to a viral level to be beneficial. The virus is largely transmitted within droplets, which masks can stop. |
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"Because masks have a proven value in protecting others from you
Masks at what standard? And how often should they be replaced?
WHO and many others have already proven that wearing a mask slows down saliva droplets and the cloud of smaller droplets if a cough is made behind one.
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At what standard, and how often should it be replaced? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Because masks have a proven value in protecting others from you
Masks at what standard? And how often should they be replaced?
WHO and many others have already proven that wearing a mask slows down saliva droplets and the cloud of smaller droplets if a cough is made behind one.
At what standard, and how often should it be replaced? "
Which isn't the point - the point is the wearing of the mask to any standard has a beneficial protection for others if you are wearing one ! |
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"Because masks have a proven value in protecting others from you
Masks at what standard? And how often should they be replaced?
WHO and many others have already proven that wearing a mask slows down saliva droplets and the cloud of smaller droplets if a cough is made behind one.
At what standard, and how often should it be replaced?
Which isn't the point - the point is the wearing of the mask to any standard has a beneficial protection for others if you are wearing one !"
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Here's a good mask test. If you vape or know someone who does, get them to exhale the vapour through the mask. If you see vapour, you know the mask is pointless. As each "drop" of vapour could harbour millions of viruses. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.  "
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile  |
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"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile "
"May"... |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones? "
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19. |
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"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile "
I’ve heard ball gags are almost twice as effective as a mask  |
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If a mask will protect other people from the wearers coughs and sneezes, will it not offer even a little protection for the wearer too?
If someone was to cough or sneeze in front of me (or even directly in my face) I think any protection, however slight, would be better than nothing. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"If a mask will protect other people from the wearers coughs and sneezes, will it not offer even a little protection for the wearer too?
If someone was to cough or sneeze in front of me (or even directly in my face) I think any protection, however slight, would be better than nothing."
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile
"May"... "
Yes....and that's good enough for me. It comes down to personal choice at the end of the day. |
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"Here's a good mask test. If you vape or know someone who does, get them to exhale the vapour through the mask. If you see vapour, you know the mask is pointless. As each "drop" of vapour could harbour millions of viruses. "
Not the same thing. Coughing or sneezing will contain much more mucus/saliva than vapour from a vape pen does.
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19."
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation  |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile
I’ve heard ball gags are almost twice as effective as a mask "
Yeah?? Best news of the day |
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I'm wearing washable non medical grade masks now. Saving medical grade for those on the front line.
My understanding from the reading I've done is that it largely protects other people from you when worn correctly, but also may provide imperfect protection from others. In conjunction with maintaining hand hygiene and physical distancing.
I look like a hypochondriac in suburban Manchester, but I'm trying to do my bit. |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones? "
They don't protect the wearer |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
They don't protect the wearer"
Its a grey area. I've read that it does, I've read that it doesn't. But I'd rather wear one in case it protects other people from me, in case I've got it but not showing symptoms.
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"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile
"May"...
Yes....and that's good enough for me. It comes down to personal choice at the end of the day. "
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"If a mask will protect other people from the wearers coughs and sneezes, will it not offer even a little protection for the wearer too?
If someone was to cough or sneeze in front of me (or even directly in my face) I think any protection, however slight, would be better than nothing."
This
Any protection is better than no protection at all. |
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"I know that it won't protect me but I like to think I would be doing my bit if I'm asymptomatic.
Exactly this. By wearing a face covering it stops you passing virus if you have it"
That's most of my motivation too. Trying to protect others. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"I know that it won't protect me but I like to think I would be doing my bit if I'm asymptomatic.
Exactly this. By wearing a face covering it stops you passing virus if you have it
That's most of my motivation too. Trying to protect others."
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation "
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer"
Yes, I know that, they probably do to!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyone watch the sewing bee? Get ready for an announcement from the dishy Patrick that face coverings and patterns for them will be available soon!
That’s because they are 63 per cent more effective than no mask at all....whatever that means....so get your sewing machines out girls....and remember you heard it here first!!! |
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"Anyone watch the sewing bee? Get ready for an announcement from the dishy Patrick that face coverings and patterns for them will be available soon!
That’s because they are 63 per cent more effective than no mask at all....whatever that means....so get your sewing machines out girls....and remember you heard it here first!!! "
Guys can sew too  |
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"Anyone watch the sewing bee? Get ready for an announcement from the dishy Patrick that face coverings and patterns for them will be available soon!
That’s because they are 63 per cent more effective than no mask at all....whatever that means....so get your sewing machines out girls....and remember you heard it here first!!!
Guys can sew too "
Guys can....its true....I just thought I would pull a luscious leg or too while passing on my inside info! |
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I've been making them for my kids.. myself and some of the people I'm helping. As I'm sure at some point it will become compulsory to wear a face covering.
Mine I've made fit well.. you cant blow a candle out through one and I have made each person 3. |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones? "
Are your employers supplying them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Homemade masks?! Seriously what would be the point!? Lol!
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Need PF3
How will it stop the virus entering through your eye? Exactly total waste of time unless you kit yourself out with what nurses and Doctors have
Unless you're dressed in a military grade NBC suit it's all pointless. "
The situations are not comparable - the homemade masks would provide zero protection in a clinical setting but do provide some protection in a civilian social distancing setting. In hospitals staff are working up close with very ill people for long hours and sometimes even get covered in patients' bodily fluids. In public you'll be 2m away from people who have no symptoms. To follow on your vaping experiment, how far can you blow smoke in free air and how far can you blow it through even an open weave fabric? Will it still reach 2m, how much of it will? In this case a barrier doesn't have to be impenetrable to be effective.
It is all about viral load and level of exposure - you don't need a dry suit to do the dishes in. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Government are now advising to wear 'face coverings' in England in certain situations according to the BBC  "
Yes, I just read that to. Not sure why you've it can only be a good thing, surely?!! |
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"Government are now advising to wear 'face coverings' in England in certain situations according to the BBC
Yes, I just read that to. Not sure why you've it can only be a good thing, surely?!! "
I've put the because we've been constantly told there is no need to wear them. |
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I work in mental health services in the community and have been working with drug and alcohol users too . Been out working as usual all this time . No social distancing for us and no face masks either I’m fit and healthy and have been all the way through this ....
Makes you wonder .... |
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"Government are now advising to wear 'face coverings' in England in certain situations according to the BBC
Yes, I just read that to. Not sure why you've it can only be a good thing, surely?!!
I've put the because we've been constantly told there is no need to wear them. "
The evidence and the need has changed over time, although I think the UK is adopting this later than we should have. |
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over a year ago
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On all accounts, if you have coronavirus it can prevent you from spreading it. Wearing one to prevent you from catching it is not proven to work. The mask ideally needs to be hermetically sealed, airtight, like with a proper respirator... |
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It would seem sensible that they have to make practical changes to working practices before they can open again. Things like personal space, staggered hours, washing hands facilities, sanitizers, the availability of suitable PPE, tool talk so everyone is responsible for theirs and everyone elses safety.
Presumably you have a H&S representative. |
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Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings? |
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"I think I'll go with WHO.
Im not at all surprised. "
What are your medical qualifications? I'm assuming you must have more letters after your name than you have in it. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings? "
I'm seeing more every time I go. Aldi, Waitrose and Tescos have provided masks for staff but Sainsbury's haven't. I've asked them when I've been in.
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings? "
to be fair less and less each week. My local postie is one person I made 3 masks for. She was so happy for them as she had said she was struggling to get any more of the paper ones. This morning she left me my post... and a box of cakes to say thanks for the masks |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings? "
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer
Yes, I know that, they probably do to!!!! "
The HSE also has a phone number which you can report things on as well.
I would emagine the HSE is going to be on the ball for covid-19 as well.
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute."
I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
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Just a badge of subservience and compliance.
The WHO do not recommend them for normal use and indeed on one of their advice pages (which I can't be bothered to find) they point to the increased risks.
Even the government's own website - Public Health England (updated today) says
"....there’s very little evidence of widespread benefit from their use outside of these clinical settings. Facemasks must be worn correctly, changed frequently, removed properly and disposed of safely in order to be effective."
Personally I have no wish to put a non sterile, potentially contaminated bit of cloth next to my nice warm wet facial orifices. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings? to be fair less and less each week. My local postie is one person I made 3 masks for. She was so happy for them as she had said she was struggling to get any more of the paper ones. This morning she left me my post... and a box of cakes to say thanks for the masks "
How lovely |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer
Yes, I know that, they probably do to!!!!
The HSE also has a phone number which you can report things on as well.
I would emagine the HSE is going to be on the ball for covid-19 as well.
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer
Yes, I know that, they probably do to!!!! "
So ring your local HSE and complain then. You should not be going to work where you have no hot water as quoted by government several times to wash you hands |
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over a year ago
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"Get yourself one of Lovehoney for the lols.
Or just draw one on your face. Just as effective.
Now you're just being silly! It has been said that by wearing some sort of face covering you may help to slow the spread of the virus.
Good idea thought Twisted, might make a few people smile
"May"... "
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it |
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over a year ago
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I have to wear a mask at work. I use the 3 ply surgical mask at all times in work then a visor and ppe for certain tasks.
I leave work. I then use a 3ply fabric mask that has a pocket to put a filter in, but only use this when I'm in a shop and can't guarantee 2m distance. I have 3 of these masks, wash, wear and spare.
I hand wash and use gel.
I will point out though that what a lot of people are forgetting is, remove the mask by the ear strap. Wash it ASAP or put in a bag till you can. And wash your hands after taking off the mask. I've watched people get in their cars, take off the mask touching the whole thing, then touching their face and steering wheel etc. That's when face coverings aren't effective.
And I'm taking notice of WHO and current guidelines within the care sector.
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"I think I'll go with WHO.
Im not at all surprised. "
You're not surprised that people are going with the advice of the literal World HEALTH (!!!!) Organisation rather than a non-medically qualified randomer on a swinger's forum? Yeah, I'm not surprised either. |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
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It is interesting. I suppose different trends in different areas.
I'm keeping up to date with virology and public health people talking about this, and I'm personally satisfied that wearing a mask is the right thing for me to do at the moment. |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings? "
My employer got one box of face masks in March and promptly locked them away. Then when the big moral panic about lack of PPE in the NHS flared up they got more and said wearing them at work was compulsory. And whilst they're not locked away it's only one per shift. |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
It is interesting. I suppose different trends in different areas.
I'm keeping up to date with virology and public health people talking about this, and I'm personally satisfied that wearing a mask is the right thing for me to do at the moment."
maybe its the fact that we have had a handful of deaths and none in the actual area. In fact 4 of our local small areas havent even had any. And the 5 deaths in the next town up are in a care home. |
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The reason they don’t recommend wearing medical quality masks is because there are never under any circumstances going to be enough to go round the general population aswell as the nhs. Simples. |
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"The reason they don’t recommend wearing medical quality masks is because there are never under any circumstances going to be enough to go round the general population aswell as the nhs. Simples."
Yes. Which is why I've chosen to get non medical grade masks. It'll still do something but not divert resources from those who need it more. |
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"If a mask will protect other people from the wearers coughs and sneezes, will it not offer even a little protection for the wearer too?
If someone was to cough or sneeze in front of me (or even directly in my face) I think any protection, however slight, would be better than nothing."
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"If a mask will protect other people from the wearers coughs and sneezes, will it not offer even a little protection for the wearer too?
If someone was to cough or sneeze in front of me (or even directly in my face) I think any protection, however slight, would be better than nothing. are you sure about that where’s your evidence "
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"They are now saying you should be wearing one in enclosed spaces. But not medical grade ones. "
They may say it but goggle if it’s beneficial and the jury’s definitely out in fact some studies have said they actually caused more infections
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By *al2001Man
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Would it not of been a good idea to say about facemasks in his announcement last night
That announcement was exactly the time for a clear one sentence statement on facemasks
What a complete and utter cluster fuck |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"They are now saying you should be wearing one in enclosed spaces. But not medical grade ones. They may say it but goggle if it’s beneficial and the jury’s definitely out in fact some studies have said they actually caused more infections "
Go to WHO and search it. It's quite clear. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
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"Would it not of been a good idea to say about facemasks in his announcement last night
That announcement was exactly the time for a clear one sentence statement on facemasks
What a complete and utter cluster fuck"
There were loads of things he could of been clearer on! |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Would it not of been a good idea to say about facemasks in his announcement last night
That announcement was exactly the time for a clear one sentence statement on facemasks
What a complete and utter cluster fuck
There were loads of things he could of been clearer on! "
It's all ok he put it all in a 50 page document
This just gets worse and worse
What's he going to do tomorrow?
Morse code?
Latin braille? |
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"The reason they don’t recommend wearing medical quality masks is because there are never under any circumstances going to be enough to go round the general population aswell as the nhs. Simples.
Yes. Which is why I've chosen to get non medical grade masks. It'll still do something but not divert resources from those who need it more."
That’s definitely the right way to go about it - PP3 is only necessary in medical situations so to be honest a silk scarf will probably be more use than the paper nuisance masks, and they are a good investment for when we can all get back to tying each other to the bed |
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"I have to wear a mask at work. I use the 3 ply surgical mask at all times in work then a visor and ppe for certain tasks.
I leave work. I then use a 3ply fabric mask that has a pocket to put a filter in, but only use this when I'm in a shop and can't guarantee 2m distance. I have 3 of these masks, wash, wear and spare.
I hand wash and use gel.
I will point out though that what a lot of people are forgetting is, remove the mask by the ear strap. Wash it ASAP or put in a bag till you can. And wash your hands after taking off the mask. I've watched people get in their cars, take off the mask touching the whole thing, then touching their face and steering wheel etc. That's when face coverings aren't effective.
And I'm taking notice of WHO and current guidelines within the care sector.
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I think they should put out guidelines of how to make them, wear, wash, remove, etc. |
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Other than saving lives, you mean?
A cloth mask might only filter out a small percentage of any incoming lungful of virus air, but there are suggestions initial viral dose can be the difference between a few low days and being dead.
A cloth mask is far more about preventing spread - It massively reduces the amount of virus an infected person launches into other's airspace. And given you can be infected without symptoms, surely it makes sense we all wear the damned things.
Oh, and
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1442
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 |
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"I have to wear a mask at work. I use the 3 ply surgical mask at all times in work then a visor and ppe for certain tasks.
I leave work. I then use a 3ply fabric mask that has a pocket to put a filter in, but only use this when I'm in a shop and can't guarantee 2m distance. I have 3 of these masks, wash, wear and spare.
I hand wash and use gel.
I will point out though that what a lot of people are forgetting is, remove the mask by the ear strap. Wash it ASAP or put in a bag till you can. And wash your hands after taking off the mask. I've watched people get in their cars, take off the mask touching the whole thing, then touching their face and steering wheel etc. That's when face coverings aren't effective.
And I'm taking notice of WHO and current guidelines within the care sector.
I think they should put out guidelines of how to make them, wear, wash, remove, etc. "
if you go on the cdc site it has just that x |
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"I have to wear a mask at work. I use the 3 ply surgical mask at all times in work then a visor and ppe for certain tasks.
I leave work. I then use a 3ply fabric mask that has a pocket to put a filter in, but only use this when I'm in a shop and can't guarantee 2m distance. I have 3 of these masks, wash, wear and spare.
I hand wash and use gel.
I will point out though that what a lot of people are forgetting is, remove the mask by the ear strap. Wash it ASAP or put in a bag till you can. And wash your hands after taking off the mask. I've watched people get in their cars, take off the mask touching the whole thing, then touching their face and steering wheel etc. That's when face coverings aren't effective.
And I'm taking notice of WHO and current guidelines within the care sector.
I think they should put out guidelines of how to make them, wear, wash, remove, etc.
if you go on the cdc site it has just that x "
Useful site, thank you.
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No need for details from another country or administration....
You see, Boris does care about us... he has provided information on how to make and cover our faces the British way...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering
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"I know that it won't protect me but I like to think I would be doing my bit if I'm asymptomatic.
Exactly this. By wearing a face covering it stops you passing virus if you have it"
May stop. But probably not. It will stop you picking your nose though, which is probably why more men than women have Corona.  |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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It's all ok he put it all in a 50 page document
This just gets worse and worse
What's he going to do tomorrow?
Morse code?
Latin braille?"
You can get it in Braile.
But it's quite simple to read and understand in the plain English it's presented in. |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones? "
Some of us haven't stopped going out to work since day 1 |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer
Yes, I know that, they probably do to!!!! "
According to Boris he is assembling a team who will do unannounced visits to busines premises to check on working conditions. Don't hold your breath though. |
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By *ady Lick OP Woman
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
Some of us haven't stopped going out to work since day 1 "
Ok....and do you choose to wear a mask.
Some of us were furloughed so didn't have a choice! |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
Some of us haven't stopped going out to work since day 1
Ok....and do you choose to wear a mask.
Some of us were furloughed so didn't have a choice!"
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"No need for details from another country or administration....
You see, Boris does care about us... he has provided information on how to make and cover our faces the British way...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering
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I started making mine weeks ago x seems the bare materials are going up in price now though |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
Some of us haven't stopped going out to work since day 1 "
Ditto! Laughable how worried all these newbies are! |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones?
If you are returning to work I would think your company has a duty of care to provide all of it's employees the facilities to wash their hands on a regular basis.
Also it should also do a risk assessment in repect of covid-19.
Yes, definitely, I'm really concerned about our hot water situation
The HSE website states that all employers must provide hot and cold running water. I think that's pretty clear what's required of your employer
Yes, I know that, they probably do to!!!!
According to Boris he is assembling a team who will do unannounced visits to busines premises to check on working conditions. Don't hold your breath though."
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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It's all ok he put it all in a 50 page document
This just gets worse and worse
What's he going to do tomorrow?
Morse code?
Latin braille?
You can get it in Braile.
But it's quite simple to read and understand in the plain English it's presented in. "
Easy to understand it's a complete fuckup alright
Too late with lockdown,too early for unlockdown and nothing but mixed messages and confusion in between
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I don't see the fuss people make about other wearing masks,it may be pointless or whatever but it has no negative effects, if it makes people feel safer and choose to wear them it is no inconvenience to you, let them. |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
It is interesting. I suppose different trends in different areas.
I'm keeping up to date with virology and public health people talking about this, and I'm personally satisfied that wearing a mask is the right thing for me to do at the moment. maybe its the fact that we have had a handful of deaths and none in the actual area. In fact 4 of our local small areas havent even had any. And the 5 deaths in the next town up are in a care home. "
We’ve not fared so well here. The ONS tracker shows that in my local council ward, which is an area of about 1 square mile, there have been 7 deaths to covid. This is the same as the rest of the entire town added together! I suspect that with the relaxing of the lockdown it will mean a free for all for the numpties who have not been following the rules properly anyway.......I wonder if we can maybe set up a vigilante team to go into their houses as they sleep and staple gun masks to their faces |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
It is interesting. I suppose different trends in different areas.
I'm keeping up to date with virology and public health people talking about this, and I'm personally satisfied that wearing a mask is the right thing for me to do at the moment. maybe its the fact that we have had a handful of deaths and none in the actual area. In fact 4 of our local small areas havent even had any. And the 5 deaths in the next town up are in a care home.
We’ve not fared so well here. The ONS tracker shows that in my local council ward, which is an area of about 1 square mile, there have been 7 deaths to covid. This is the same as the rest of the entire town added together! I suspect that with the relaxing of the lockdown it will mean a free for all for the numpties who have not been following the rules properly anyway.......I wonder if we can maybe set up a vigilante team to go into their houses as they sleep and staple gun masks to their faces "
Is there a care home in that square mile ? |
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"Here's a good mask test. If you vape or know someone who does, get them to exhale the vapour through the mask. If you see vapour, you know the mask is pointless. As each "drop" of vapour could harbour millions of viruses. "
You do know that the exhalation from a vape is heated therefore rises. Coronavirus is spread in droplets which funnily enough drop! This is why farts linger and bad breath doesn’t! |
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"Just wondering how many people when they eventually go back to work are going to wear some sort of face covering.
I'm possibly going back this week, mixing with the public in a workplace that hasn't got hot running water (the boiler broke months ago and they didn't want to spend £6k getting it replaced).
I'll be wearing one but I don't think many where I work will. Will you? And will they be bought ones or homemade ones? "
Your workplace may have thought it was okay to skimp on things like replacing the boiler before, but they cannot now.
No one should return if don't provide reasonable precautions, like the ability to properly wash hands.
They have a legal duty of care to their employees. Any dereliction of this would leave them open to a suit or a criminal offence.
Only return when they have taken all the reasonable steps to protect you. |
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
It is interesting. I suppose different trends in different areas.
I'm keeping up to date with virology and public health people talking about this, and I'm personally satisfied that wearing a mask is the right thing for me to do at the moment. maybe its the fact that we have had a handful of deaths and none in the actual area. In fact 4 of our local small areas havent even had any. And the 5 deaths in the next town up are in a care home.
We’ve not fared so well here. The ONS tracker shows that in my local council ward, which is an area of about 1 square mile, there have been 7 deaths to covid. This is the same as the rest of the entire town added together! I suspect that with the relaxing of the lockdown it will mean a free for all for the numpties who have not been following the rules properly anyway.......I wonder if we can maybe set up a vigilante team to go into their houses as they sleep and staple gun masks to their faces
Is there a care home in that square mile ?"
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"Shop workers, posties, delivery workers, and many more key workers have been keeping the country running throughout the last 2 months, with little or no ppe. Any ppe and hand sanitiser has been supplied by themselves in the most part because employers haven’t bothered. In many instances there has been very little in the way of social distancing for these workers too.
How many of these workers have you seen wearing face coverings?
It's increasing. I've bought my own masks.
I think employers and the government should step up, but at the same time, I'm doing what I can do as an individual to contribute. I find that interesting as 4 weeks ago I saw loads of staff wearing masks or screens.. this week it's been less.. a lot less.
Same with people actually wearing face coverings or gloves. A few weeks ago people were wearing them alot. This weekend especially.. in 2 shops I saw a handful at most.
It is interesting. I suppose different trends in different areas.
I'm keeping up to date with virology and public health people talking about this, and I'm personally satisfied that wearing a mask is the right thing for me to do at the moment. maybe its the fact that we have had a handful of deaths and none in the actual area. In fact 4 of our local small areas havent even had any. And the 5 deaths in the next town up are in a care home.
We’ve not fared so well here. The ONS tracker shows that in my local council ward, which is an area of about 1 square mile, there have been 7 deaths to covid. This is the same as the rest of the entire town added together! I suspect that with the relaxing of the lockdown it will mean a free for all for the numpties who have not been following the rules properly anyway.......I wonder if we can maybe set up a vigilante team to go into their houses as they sleep and staple gun masks to their faces
Is there a care home in that square mile ?
Nope"
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