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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ????" Just because you live in a sunny clime doesn't mean you absorb a lot of it in winter, Italians and Spaniards have darker skin than brits due to strong summer sun so could be low in winter. | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ????" All in lockdown.. Madrid is highly populated, most live in flats etc.. Who knows if that has an effect..? | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ????" The articles I have read say that Italians, Spanish and English have low Vitamin D levels during the winter months. | |||
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"Everyone should take a vit D supplement in the UK my doc said" I have every morning for the last 10 year. | |||
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"Just before Boris announced lockdown on the BBC they interviewed a foreign nurse who started rambling on about Vitamin D. I have to be honest. I thought she was a few cards short of a full deck at the time. On reflection, I can correlate periods of poor health in my own life with times I haven't had much sun. Since I've started tanning on beds I haven't been I'll whilst Miss C, usually the one who doesn't catch anything gets poorly. Now they are saying Vitamin D may prevent a cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system. The thing that kills most COVID-19 patients. Does this explain why countries who get lots of sunlight have better luck with COVID-19 and countries with hardly sunlight and use tanning beds also fare well? https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/researchers-have-discovered-a-strong-correlation-between-severe-vitamin-d-deficiency-and-mortality-334567" In the NHS web site is doesn’t recommend sun beds to get vitamin D doesn’t provide it the same as natural sun light | |||
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"Apparently there are over 90 vitamins and minerals that your body needs to survive, Obviously most are ingredients in the food you eat . vitamin D is one that’s vital for your immune system, there are lots of nutrition experts on line. Some very famous, GPs get very little training on nutrition unfortunately. " vitamin d is responsible for regulating calcium, magnesium and phosphate. it has nothing to do with your immune system. | |||
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"Apparently there are over 90 vitamins and minerals that your body needs to survive, Obviously most are ingredients in the food you eat . vitamin D is one that’s vital for your immune system, there are lots of nutrition experts on line. Some very famous, GPs get very little training on nutrition unfortunately. vitamin d is responsible for regulating calcium, magnesium and phosphate. it has nothing to do with your immune system. " Dunno where you got that from. It is a modulator for the innate and adaptive immune responses and deficiency is prevalent in autoimmune disease. Well researchd, well documented. Been known for 30+ years. | |||
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"you mean the well documented research on vitamin d. why do you think it is called the sunshine vitamin?" Since I saw that NHS nurse on TV I've been very interested in this subject. One study discusses the decrease in Vitamin D production with age. Another discusses the production of Vitamin D amongst different ethnic groups. It makes good sense to me that those ethnic groups who originate from regions of less seasonal variance produce less Vitamin D in less sunny regions. To me the pieces of the puzzle all fit with Vitamin D being the common denominator in variances in COVID-19 mortality. | |||
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"I started taking it a few weeks ago. " I am mourning the closure of our local tanning salon, but am grateful for the sunny spell we've just had. | |||
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"Funnily enough, aside from the Covid issues I decided to get a blood test, knowing that in theory with the previous weather it should be at its lowest! It was very low at 14, currently loading up at 20000 iu a day for a month, also taking K2 to offset plus B12. Will be taking 5000 a day for maintenance thereafter, having done my own research plus Having spoken to a consultant - there are mixed reviews but overall no downside ! The general consensus is most people should take it, especially now we all use sunscreens and they are better than ever - make your own informed decisions!! " Awesome post Thank you | |||
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"Trust me a vitamin d deficiency is nasty & you can't absorb calcium either.....return of rickets type stuff if it's prolonged. I'm glad it's now seen as a major thing so you lock don't end up with my bones...they not good, after decades of saying to docs & being told to take depression tests instead of blood tests. " | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid?" You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. | |||
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"On an equally interesting note, there is unconfirmed evidence starting to mount that nicotine might interfere with the biological of Covid. This would go someway to explain the lack of smokers in the death statistics and why countries with high smoking rates are having lower death rates. This is contradictory to what was initially expected. " I read that it was scientist in France who were researching this link. | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic." It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. " Glad it's helped you Health is something we tend to take for granted until we lose it. | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. Glad it's helped you Health is something we tend to take for granted until we lose it. " Thanks I genuinely think vitamin d deficiency is not checked for often enough and isn't talked about enough, it's something that we all need and often never even think we might not be getting enough of and it can have a severe impact on many aspects of our health and well-being. | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. Glad it's helped you Health is something we tend to take for granted until we lose it. Thanks I genuinely think vitamin d deficiency is not checked for often enough and isn't talked about enough, it's something that we all need and often never even think we might not be getting enough of and it can have a severe impact on many aspects of our health and well-being. " I was first made aware that we needed Vitamin D when I was a child. Since then all I've heard about is how bad the sun is for you. I wonder if they will allow the reopening of tanning salons since some people need them for health reasons, or whether the sunny weather will keep them closed? | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. Glad it's helped you Health is something we tend to take for granted until we lose it. Thanks I genuinely think vitamin d deficiency is not checked for often enough and isn't talked about enough, it's something that we all need and often never even think we might not be getting enough of and it can have a severe impact on many aspects of our health and well-being. I was first made aware that we needed Vitamin D when I was a child. Since then all I've heard about is how bad the sun is for you. I wonder if they will allow the reopening of tanning salons since some people need them for health reasons, or whether the sunny weather will keep them closed?" Honestly? I think the risk of a sunbed far outweighs the benefits, especially when you can take vitamin d supplements. | |||
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" Reports to date from various cities indicate that people with HIV are not testing positive for the covid-19 at high rates, and most of those who have are doing well. This had led some to wonder whether HIV-positive people—as well as HIV-negative people taking pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP)—might somehow be protected. Of course it could also be put down to the fact that HIV patient's Vitamin D levels are closely monitored and supplemented. " That's an interesting development particularly for a swingers website. What's your source? | |||
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" Reports to date from various cities indicate that people with HIV are not testing positive for the covid-19 at high rates, and most of those who have are doing well. This had led some to wonder whether HIV-positive people—as well as HIV-negative people taking pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP)—might somehow be protected. Of course it could also be put down to the fact that HIV patient's Vitamin D levels are closely monitored and supplemented. That's an interesting development particularly for a swingers website. What's your source? " https://www.washingtonblade.com/2020/04/08/spain-to-test-if-prep-can-prevent-covid-19-infection-in-medical-workers/ | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. Glad it's helped you Health is something we tend to take for granted until we lose it. Thanks I genuinely think vitamin d deficiency is not checked for often enough and isn't talked about enough, it's something that we all need and often never even think we might not be getting enough of and it can have a severe impact on many aspects of our health and well-being. I was first made aware that we needed Vitamin D when I was a child. Since then all I've heard about is how bad the sun is for you. I wonder if they will allow the reopening of tanning salons since some people need them for health reasons, or whether the sunny weather will keep them closed? Honestly? I think the risk of a sunbed far outweighs the benefits, especially when you can take vitamin d supplements. " Sunbeds are the subject of debate. They were invented for medical treatment. There is a guy in the states willing to pay out $5000 to anyone who can prove that sunbeds gave them skin cancer. The money is still safe in his bank. Personally I go up to three times a week for no more than 12 minutes and consider myself at less risk than people who don't use tanning beds and frazzle red every year when they go on holiday. I've never been healthier. | |||
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"Apparently there are over 90 vitamins and minerals that your body needs to survive, Obviously most are ingredients in the food you eat . vitamin D is one that’s vital for your immune system, there are lots of nutrition experts on line. Some very famous, GPs get very little training on nutrition unfortunately. vitamin d is responsible for regulating calcium, magnesium and phosphate. it has nothing to do with your immune system. Dunno where you got that from. It is a modulator for the innate and adaptive immune responses and deficiency is prevalent in autoimmune disease. Well researchd, well documented. Been known for 30+ years." pretty sure this is also why sunlight is good for autoimmune illnesses like psoriasis too | |||
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"Vitamin D3 is derived from animal sourced foods and is more effective than D2 which is plant sourced. Perhaps it would be worth considering checking whether Vegetarians and Vegans are more susceptable to Covid? You only get a small amount of vitamin D from food, eggs and salmon have the most but it's still a small amount. Sunshine is the best way, failing that take supplements. In 2013 I was diagnosed with levels so low they weren't readable. Within 2 weeks of taking supplements I felt like a different person. There are a lot of good lectures on YouTube on the topic of vitamin D. Dr Michael Holick is especially knowledgeable on the topic. It did the same for me, I completely changed after I had been taking it for awhile, if I have any friends/family that are feeling generally down and unwell I tell them to ask the doctors to check their vitamin d. I've got my mum to start taking a maintenance dose and my daughter takes a multivitamin specifically for teenage girls which has vitamin d in it. Glad it's helped you Health is something we tend to take for granted until we lose it. Thanks I genuinely think vitamin d deficiency is not checked for often enough and isn't talked about enough, it's something that we all need and often never even think we might not be getting enough of and it can have a severe impact on many aspects of our health and well-being. I was first made aware that we needed Vitamin D when I was a child. Since then all I've heard about is how bad the sun is for you. I wonder if they will allow the reopening of tanning salons since some people need them for health reasons, or whether the sunny weather will keep them closed?" i think if you need it for health reason they expect you to be using the equipment in a hospital i would love for my local salon to reopen though, my skin is awful at the moment, and stress doesnt help it, to be honest i dont think the cracks on my face will clear up now til i spend a few weeks abroad, its been similar before | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ????" If you actually look a bit closer at the numbers for Spain the infection rate does actually show a north/south divide. A few examples without going into the whole country. Madrid (north central) 9950 infections per million population. Catalonia (north east) 7336 per million. Basque country (north) 6144 per million. Galicia (north) 3353 per million Comunidad Valencia (south east) 2179 per million. Andalucia (south) 1473 per million. Murcia (south east) 1037 per million. Canary islands (way south) 1021 per million. North and central Spain does get a proper winter while it is much milder in the south. Also bear in mind that the big hot spot in Italy was the Milan area in the north of the country. Nothing scientific but maybe there is something in it. | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ???? If you actually look a bit closer at the numbers for Spain the infection rate does actually show a north/south divide. A few examples without going into the whole country. Madrid (north central) 9950 infections per million population. Catalonia (north east) 7336 per million. Basque country (north) 6144 per million. Galicia (north) 3353 per million Comunidad Valencia (south east) 2179 per million. Andalucia (south) 1473 per million. Murcia (south east) 1037 per million. Canary islands (way south) 1021 per million. North and central Spain does get a proper winter while it is much milder in the south. Also bear in mind that the big hot spot in Italy was the Milan area in the north of the country. Nothing scientific but maybe there is something in it. " A couple that I missed above were La Rioja (north) with 12,795 per million, and Navarra (north) 7889 per million. I'm sure there are other factors but those numbers are well worth taking notice of. The infection rate was as of 16th May 2020 and the population number from July 2019. | |||
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"Thanks for all these positive contributions. I really wish it was being pushed more, not just for COVID-19 but because it helps with bronchitis and pneumonia. WhatvI have learned from is that from roughly the age of 70 is that humans start producing less Vitamin D from sunlight. Is it a coincidence that COVID-19 affects the elderly more severely. There is also a mental heath aspect. Not only does Vitamin D improve your mental health but getting outdoors does too." A study Into this started on the 2nd april, when bame and diabetes were also shown to have a serious impact in recovering from covid-19, the study needs more time before it can be passed as a scientific advisement, and the theatre news are not into showing many positive stories unfortunately | |||
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"If anyone needs advice on supplements pm us and speak to joan she has been Working in nutrition for 35 years we have friends who are qualified nutritionists to The supplements they sell in a lot of shops are garbage and have only a small amount of the vitamins your body needs today’s food has hardly any nutrients left in it by the time we get it and cook it If anyone needs help drop ya a pm and we will help you ???????? " Are you saying that the vitamin D supplements they sell arent worth taking? How long are we supposed to be outside, to get the recommended amount? Google doesnt seem to know And given that there are few foods that contain vit d in sufficient quantities, what would you advise people that dont eat fish? | |||
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"Thanks for all these positive contributions. I really wish it was being pushed more, not just for COVID-19 but because it helps with bronchitis and pneumonia. WhatvI have learned from is that from roughly the age of 70 is that humans start producing less Vitamin D from sunlight. Is it a coincidence that COVID-19 affects the elderly more severely. There is also a mental heath aspect. Not only does Vitamin D improve your mental health but getting outdoors does too. A study Into this started on the 2nd april, when bame and diabetes were also shown to have a serious impact in recovering from covid-19, the study needs more time before it can be passed as a scientific advisement, and the theatre news are not into showing many positive stories unfortunately " I could understand if Vitamin D had nasty side effects or risks. From what I have read there is a long list of benefits and a pretty argument for supplements every winter with or without COVID-19. Surely its a no lose situation to promote Vitamin D supplements regardless. | |||
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"Thanks for all these positive contributions. I really wish it was being pushed more, not just for COVID-19 but because it helps with bronchitis and pneumonia. WhatvI have learned from is that from roughly the age of 70 is that humans start producing less Vitamin D from sunlight. Is it a coincidence that COVID-19 affects the elderly more severely. There is also a mental heath aspect. Not only does Vitamin D improve your mental health but getting outdoors does too. A study Into this started on the 2nd april, when bame and diabetes were also shown to have a serious impact in recovering from covid-19, the study needs more time before it can be passed as a scientific advisement, and the theatre news are not into showing many positive stories unfortunately I could understand if Vitamin D had nasty side effects or risks. From what I have read there is a long list of benefits and a pretty argument for supplements every winter with or without COVID-19. Surely its a no lose situation to promote Vitamin D supplements regardless. " I agree with you, it's just getting the news out to the public, as soon as its advised then people will take it, hopefully it will be in time for this years flu season | |||
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"If anyone needs advice on supplements pm us and speak to joan she has been Working in nutrition for 35 years we have friends who are qualified nutritionists to The supplements they sell in a lot of shops are garbage and have only a small amount of the vitamins your body needs today’s food has hardly any nutrients left in it by the time we get it and cook it If anyone needs help drop ya a pm and we will help you ???????? Are you saying that the vitamin D supplements they sell arent worth taking? How long are we supposed to be outside, to get the recommended amount? Google doesnt seem to know And given that there are few foods that contain vit d in sufficient quantities, what would you advise people that dont eat fish? " Hi Sappy I have worked with nutritionists for many years and myself recovered from a very serious health condition using natural protocols. We are taking 10000iu of Vit D and 2000 mg Vit C every day plus other quality products to build our immune system. If you would like more information please ask. Cheers Joan and Bob | |||
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"My understanding is that whilst there isn't much Vitamin D in the food we eat, you don't have to be outside for very long to get the Vitamin D we need in the summer. My understanding is that Vitamin D is two vitamins D2 and D3. " Vitamin D3 Comes from Animals, Vitamin D2 from Plants. Research even suggests that vitamin D2 is less effective than vitamin D3 at raising blood levels of vitamin D. | |||
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"My understanding is that whilst there isn't much Vitamin D in the food we eat, you don't have to be outside for very long to get the Vitamin D we need in the summer. My understanding is that Vitamin D is two vitamins D2 and D3. Vitamin D3 Comes from Animals, Vitamin D2 from Plants. Research even suggests that vitamin D2 is less effective than vitamin D3 at raising blood levels of vitamin D." Thank you | |||
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"If anyone needs advice on supplements pm us and speak to joan she has been Working in nutrition for 35 years we have friends who are qualified nutritionists to The supplements they sell in a lot of shops are garbage and have only a small amount of the vitamins your body needs today’s food has hardly any nutrients left in it by the time we get it and cook it If anyone needs help drop ya a pm and we will help you ???????? Are you saying that the vitamin D supplements they sell arent worth taking? How long are we supposed to be outside, to get the recommended amount? Google doesnt seem to know And given that there are few foods that contain vit d in sufficient quantities, what would you advise people that dont eat fish? Hi Sappy I have worked with nutritionists for many years and myself recovered from a very serious health condition using natural protocols. We are taking 10000iu of Vit D and 2000 mg Vit C every day plus other quality products to build our immune system. If you would like more information please ask. Cheers Joan and Bob" Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and in large quantities can become toxic to the body, 10000iu is 6000iu above the largest recommend amount! Do you take this much every day?? | |||
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"Yes the majority of the covid cases is linked to vitamin d deficiency, it should be called a metabolic pandemic instead." I heard that about over a billion people is deficient init as well. | |||
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"If anyone needs advice on supplements pm us and speak to joan she has been Working in nutrition for 35 years we have friends who are qualified nutritionists to The supplements they sell in a lot of shops are garbage and have only a small amount of the vitamins your body needs today’s food has hardly any nutrients left in it by the time we get it and cook it If anyone needs help drop ya a pm and we will help you ???????? Are you saying that the vitamin D supplements they sell arent worth taking? How long are we supposed to be outside, to get the recommended amount? Google doesnt seem to know And given that there are few foods that contain vit d in sufficient quantities, what would you advise people that dont eat fish? Hi Sappy I have worked with nutritionists for many years and myself recovered from a very serious health condition using natural protocols. We are taking 10000iu of Vit D and 2000 mg Vit C every day plus other quality products to build our immune system. If you would like more information please ask. Cheers Joan and Bob Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin and in large quantities can become toxic to the body, 10000iu is 6000iu above the largest recommend amount! Do you take this much every day??" I get given 2000iu every day in winter & 1000I in summer/spring (only actually taken on non sunny days). The doctor doesn't want me on it long term (it's expensive) and he did say that long term use of the synthetic vit d can cause calcification on the arteries of the heart (excess & hardening of the arteries) which for me with a very low blood pressure would make it worse. To get vit d by the sun you only need 1/2 per day with face & arms exposed. You can wear sunscreen, I'm ironically allergic to sunscreen lol. Vit c is important for healing, all the vits & minerals are & Alot of medical conditions have deficiencies as a root cause too. I do believe docs need to start looking at root problems rather than treating symptoms in Alot of cases. | |||
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"Vitamin D is advised post Winter. Recommendation is for people to take Vit D in order to boost immunity. If Vit D is not required then the body will eliminate the excess. It is that simple. Most people are deficient hence recommendation to boost levels and thereby boost immune capability. There is also a recommendation to use mosquito cream (DEET) as it can used as a barrier cream to prevent the virus surviving on your skin and thereby reducing risk of a individual spreading it to the face, mouth, nose, eyes." It's citriodiol in insect repellent that they are using not deet but there is no evidence that it is effective. Unlike vitamin C which is a water soluble vitamin and excess is automatically flushed if not needed, vitamin D is fat soluble which means it can build up in your system and cause toxicity if taken in large doses from supplements. | |||
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"I am following what some doctors and scientists have been saying about vitamin D. I have been supplementing my diet with Vit D since last year (dark skin, not out in the sun much) and I still got suspected Covid, so don't think it is a cure! Caribbean and latinx people still suffer from systemic racism, which includes when in hospital and in the NHS, they are still very likely to be keyworkers as well. Being most likely to die from Covid-19 in this country has come about from many factors which can't be easily fixed. " Most definitely not a cure for COVID-19, but I don't see a downside to getting the recommended daily vitamin intake. | |||
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"I am following what some doctors and scientists have been saying about vitamin D. I have been supplementing my diet with Vit D since last year (dark skin, not out in the sun much) and I still got suspected Covid, so don't think it is a cure! Caribbean and latinx people still suffer from systemic racism, which includes when in hospital and in the NHS, they are still very likely to be keyworkers as well. Being most likely to die from Covid-19 in this country has come about from many factors which can't be easily fixed. " I think systemic racism is ignored by many for too many reasons. I'm not against taking Vitamin D. But we need to examine more than just the easy answers. | |||
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"Vit d3 is integral in the absorption of calcium. Also vit c and zinc for immune health. Everytime a man comes he loses zinc so all you guys should be taking zinc supplements especially you wankers." | |||
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"Love these forums, bigger the spats...bigger the words. With the amount of experts how come the daily briefings don't have a FAB representative. Love to see a podium with FAB EXPERT on the front. " Lack of vitamin D has become a problem facing coronavirus patients and doctors in quarantine hospitals, due to their lack of exposure to sunlight for long periods of time. A lack of vitamin D — which the body produces naturally when exposed to sunlight — weakens the immune system against many diseases, including coronavirus, a fact that prompted Egypt’s Ministry of Health to make available one million packages of vitamin D to strengthen patients’ immunity. This comes on the heels of a medical study published by a research team led by researchers at Northwestern University, which confirms a strong link between acute vitamin D deficiency and mortality rates for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19). The research team conducted a statistical analysis of data from hospitals and clinics across Europe, China and the US. According to the study, patients from countries with high morality rates due to the virus, such as Italy, Spain and the UK, have lower levels of vitamin D compared to patients in countries that were not as severely affected. | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ????" I would say the reason why in hot countries is because they are acclimatized and it works better if you spend time in the sun sunbathing it heats up the body, infusing with Vit D and that wakes up alot of antibodies that help fight illness. It is not the full answer to this but a very simplistic wau to understand why we need more sunlight and Vit D . | |||
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"I am following what some doctors and scientists have been saying about vitamin D. I have been supplementing my diet with Vit D since last year (dark skin, not out in the sun much) and I still got suspected Covid, so don't think it is a cure! Caribbean and latinx people still suffer from systemic racism, which includes when in hospital and in the NHS, they are still very likely to be keyworkers as well. Being most likely to die from Covid-19 in this country has come about from many factors which can't be easily fixed. " Are you aware that the darker your skin the less vit d your body will absorb? Therefore it makes sense (not fair, but sense) that if there is a link between skin colour & covid-19 that anyone of darker coloured skin types should be brutally whacking down vit d. The sun is the best form of vit d, much better than synthetic substitutes, plus darker skins are made to with stand equatorial sun levels so you would need a hell of alot more vit d than a pale skinned person. Greater exposure to covid due to typical job types I totally get too. | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ???? I would say the reason why in hot countries is because they are acclimatized and it works better if you spend time in the sun sunbathing it heats up the body, infusing with Vit D and that wakes up alot of antibodies that help fight illness. It is not the full answer to this but a very simplistic wau to understand why we need more sunlight and Vit D ." Replying to both / expanding on them. What you also have to bear in mind is that regardless of the countries climate, people around the world are now spending 90% of their time indoors. Vit d is not produced through windows, so in the house, office or car do not count as "getting some sun" even if you can see & feel the heat. People from countries around the Mediterranean tend to have salo skin (not correct spelling, I know) which means that the skin is protecting from uv damage and as a consequence doesn't make as much vit d. The darker your skin the more sun & vit d you need. Think lizard on a rock in the morn, heating himself to get energy for the day. Same principle really. | |||
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"We have been taking Vit D since the covid 19 started One of our daughters is a front line nurse and she suggested we take Vit D as one of the top doctors at her hospital said at the beginning of the out break make sure you and your family take Vit D daily " Been taking it for years one of my most important supplements. | |||
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"If ever it was a good time to be a redhead, it's now!! " Redheads produce vitamin D by just getting a few minutes sunlight and when it's winter your levels are always at a satisfactory rate so no need for supplements win win | |||
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"We have been taking Vit D since the covid 19 started One of our daughters is a front line nurse and she suggested we take Vit D as one of the top doctors at her hospital said at the beginning of the out break make sure you and your family take Vit D daily Been taking it for years one of my most important supplements. " you certainly look well on it | |||
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"We have been taking Vit D since the covid 19 started One of our daughters is a front line nurse and she suggested we take Vit D as one of the top doctors at her hospital said at the beginning of the out break make sure you and your family take Vit D daily Been taking it for years one of my most important supplements. you certainly look well on it " | |||
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"To me this was common sense, but then I have studied Vitamins and minerals for over 41yrs and written a book on the subject of Vitamins. IMO everyone in the UK needs 10000 IU daily. But Vit D is only a SMALL part of the defense,it alone will NOT do the job Also I had better add...timing is very important, you cannot just take at any time of the day " How to keep an idiot in suspense. | |||
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"Lol . Sorry... As far as Vit D timing goes, around noon to early afternoon is perfect. Take it too late in the day and it can interfere with sleep patterns " Good advise thanks | |||
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"Lol . Sorry... As far as Vit D timing goes, around noon to early afternoon is perfect. Take it too late in the day and it can interfere with sleep patterns " I take mine soon as I get in from work with a cup of coffee at around 5.30pm. | |||
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"Lol . Sorry... As far as Vit D timing goes, around noon to early afternoon is perfect. Take it too late in the day and it can interfere with sleep patterns " Thats interesting Ive been taking it for a long time, as I'm vegetarian and dont eat fish. There are very few foods that contain vit d in sufficient quantities I take it before bed. Is that wrong? Why would it interfere with sleep? | |||
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"Lol . Sorry... As far as Vit D timing goes, around noon to early afternoon is perfect. Take it too late in the day and it can interfere with sleep patterns " I take it first thing in the morning. | |||
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"Lol . Sorry... As far as Vit D timing goes, around noon to early afternoon is perfect. Take it too late in the day and it can interfere with sleep patterns Thats interesting Ive been taking it for a long time, as I'm vegetarian and dont eat fish. There are very few foods that contain vit d in sufficient quantities I take it before bed. Is that wrong? Why would it interfere with sleep?" It's been linked to lower levels of melatonin (a hormone that regulates your sleep cycle) | |||
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"I believe it can interfere with the melanin (sleep hormone), naturally the sunlight helps our brains to know when to go to sleep, so if you take vit d at night it'll upset the melanin hormone & lead to poor sleep. I'm just fecked up & like a bear....spring/summer I hardly sleep maybe 4 hrs, autumn/winter time all I wanna do is sleep." Correct | |||
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"To me this was common sense, but then I have studied Vitamins and minerals for over 41yrs and written a book on the subject of Vitamins. IMO everyone in the UK needs 10000 IU daily. But Vit D is only a SMALL part of the defense,it alone will NOT do the job Also I had better add...timing is very important, you cannot just take at any time of the day " Why 10000iu? Thats more than double the safe upper daily dose? | |||
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"Just before Boris announced lockdown on the BBC they interviewed a foreign nurse who started rambling on about Vitamin D. I have to be honest. I thought she was a few cards short of a full deck at the time. On reflection, I can correlate periods of poor health in my own life with times I haven't had much sun. Since I've started tanning on beds I haven't been I'll whilst Miss C, usually the one who doesn't catch anything gets poorly. Now they are saying Vitamin D may prevent a cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system. The thing that kills most COVID-19 patients. Does this explain why countries who get lots of sunlight have better luck with COVID-19 and countries with hardly sunlight and use tanning beds also fare well? https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/researchers-have-discovered-a-strong-correlation-between-severe-vitamin-d-deficiency-and-mortality-334567" youve hit the perverbial nail on the head hence why i never get ill | |||
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"https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/well/live/coronavirus-vitamin-d-immunity.html New York Times catching up..." The French health service is recommending anyone with covid and over 60 be given 100,000 and 300,000iu bolus dose of Vit D then a daily dose of 1000 or 2000iu. Personal I take 3200iu Vit D daily on prescription and have done for the last 9 years with an average vit D test levels of 99nmol/L. | |||
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"It's worth pointing out that taking vitamin D can be ineffective or even dangerous if you're low on magnesium so if you do suppliment, you should take both at once. " Very good point. | |||
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"It's worth pointing out that taking vitamin D can be ineffective or even dangerous if you're low on magnesium so if you do suppliment, you should take both at once. Very good point." Get eating those bananas | |||
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"It's worth pointing out that taking vitamin D can be ineffective or even dangerous if you're low on magnesium so if you do suppliment, you should take both at once. " I have a banana every day so all good | |||
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"It's worth pointing out that taking vitamin D can be ineffective or even dangerous if you're low on magnesium so if you do suppliment, you should take both at once. I have a banana every day so all good " One large banana packs about 37mg of magnesium, or 9% of the RDI so you're still coming up short by a long way. | |||
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"It's worth pointing out that taking vitamin D can be ineffective or even dangerous if you're low on magnesium so if you do suppliment, you should take both at once. I have a banana every day so all good One large banana packs about 37mg of magnesium, or 9% of the RDI so you're still coming up short by a long way." I eat them like no tomorrow. The greener the better. | |||
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"Just before Boris announced lockdown on the BBC they interviewed a foreign nurse who started rambling on about Vitamin D. I have to be honest. I thought she was a few cards short of a full deck at the time. On reflection, I can correlate periods of poor health in my own life with times I haven't had much sun. Since I've started tanning on beds I haven't been I'll whilst Miss C, usually the one who doesn't catch anything gets poorly. Now they are saying Vitamin D may prevent a cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system. The thing that kills most COVID-19 patients. Does this explain why countries who get lots of sunlight have better luck with COVID-19 and countries with hardly sunlight and use tanning beds also fare well? https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/researchers-have-discovered-a-strong-correlation-between-severe-vitamin-d-deficiency-and-mortality-334567" Well Brasil is not having lucky and don't think is a country who have lack of sun | |||
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"It's crazy how much my overall health has improved in the last couple of years thanks to talking daily magnesium, potassium and zinc supplements. Lost weight, reversed hair loss, better functionality of my sex organs etc etc. Wish I'd started on that path 20 years ago, life would have been a lot easier. " Interesting - what kind of dose of magnesium, potassium and zinc supplements? | |||
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" Interesting - what kind of dose of magnesium, potassium and zinc supplements? " Annoyingly I've binned the leaflets and so can't tell you exactly but it works out about 1000mg Magnesium Citrate, 500mg Potassium, 50mg Zinc Citrate. But sometimes I take different products that might also have some zinc or magnesium in so I'd reduce it in another direction. I've been trying out a few different brands and suppliers online for a while and some seem to work better than others even though the quantities are supposedly the same etc etc | |||
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"Just before Boris announced lockdown on the BBC they interviewed a foreign nurse who started rambling on about Vitamin D. I have to be honest. I thought she was a few cards short of a full deck at the time. On reflection, I can correlate periods of poor health in my own life with times I haven't had much sun. Since I've started tanning on beds I haven't been I'll whilst Miss C, usually the one who doesn't catch anything gets poorly. Now they are saying Vitamin D may prevent a cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system. The thing that kills most COVID-19 patients. Does this explain why countries who get lots of sunlight have better luck with COVID-19 and countries with hardly sunlight and use tanning beds also fare well? https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/researchers-have-discovered-a-strong-correlation-between-severe-vitamin-d-deficiency-and-mortality-334567 Well Brasil is not having lucky and don't think is a country who have lack of sun " But Brazil is a country that as low vitamin d in their food diet and also melanin in skin acts as a natural sunscreen, study’s shown people with naturally darker skin pigmentation will probably require prolonged sun exposure to synthesise the same amount of vit d to someone with lighter skin and it’s also down to genetics to how it’s processed within the body. | |||
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" Interesting - what kind of dose of magnesium, potassium and zinc supplements? Annoyingly I've binned the leaflets and so can't tell you exactly but it works out about 1000mg Magnesium Citrate, 500mg Potassium, 50mg Zinc Citrate. But sometimes I take different products that might also have some zinc or magnesium in so I'd reduce it in another direction. I've been trying out a few different brands and suppliers online for a while and some seem to work better than others even though the quantities are supposedly the same etc etc " Thanks! It would be good if could find a single multi-vitamin with those kind of mg's. Do you feel it has an effect on your libido at all? | |||
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"Just before Boris announced lockdown on the BBC they interviewed a foreign nurse who started rambling on about Vitamin D. I have to be honest. I thought she was a few cards short of a full deck at the time. On reflection, I can correlate periods of poor health in my own life with times I haven't had much sun. Since I've started tanning on beds I haven't been I'll whilst Miss C, usually the one who doesn't catch anything gets poorly. Now they are saying Vitamin D may prevent a cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system. The thing that kills most COVID-19 patients. Does this explain why countries who get lots of sunlight have better luck with COVID-19 and countries with hardly sunlight and use tanning beds also fare well? https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/researchers-have-discovered-a-strong-correlation-between-severe-vitamin-d-deficiency-and-mortality-334567 Well Brasil is not having lucky and don't think is a country who have lack of sun But Brazil is a country that as low vitamin d in their food diet and also melanin in skin acts as a natural sunscreen, study’s shown people with naturally darker skin pigmentation will probably require prolonged sun exposure to synthesise the same amount of vit d to someone with lighter skin and it’s also down to genetics to how it’s processed within the body." They also have a leader who is a COVID-19 denier... | |||
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"https://www.insider.com/vitamin-d-benefits More on the benefits of Vitamin D and why we should keep our levels up. Wishing you all good health and happiness " Mr Nuts you are a wise man indeed! I’ve rarely read so much sense on the forums. I have been an advocate of Vitamin D for years and have tried often unsuccessfully to convince others of its benefits. I work with the elderly (fast heading into that category myself!) and I believe they should all take it on a daily basis. I also have regular sunbeds but I won’t touch on that one as it’s always a contentious matter. As far as I know I’m healthy and doing ok for my age. Hopefully these new studies will encourage more people to take this daily dose of sunshine Miss V | |||
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"Just before Boris announced lockdown on the BBC they interviewed a foreign nurse who started rambling on about Vitamin D. I have to be honest. I thought she was a few cards short of a full deck at the time. On reflection, I can correlate periods of poor health in my own life with times I haven't had much sun. Since I've started tanning on beds I haven't been I'll whilst Miss C, usually the one who doesn't catch anything gets poorly. Now they are saying Vitamin D may prevent a cytokine storm — a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system. The thing that kills most COVID-19 patients. Does this explain why countries who get lots of sunlight have better luck with COVID-19 and countries with hardly sunlight and use tanning beds also fare well? https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/researchers-have-discovered-a-strong-correlation-between-severe-vitamin-d-deficiency-and-mortality-334567 Well Brasil is not having lucky and don't think is a country who have lack of sun But Brazil is a country that as low vitamin d in their food diet and also melanin in skin acts as a natural sunscreen, study’s shown people with naturally darker skin pigmentation will probably require prolonged sun exposure to synthesise the same amount of vit d to someone with lighter skin and it’s also down to genetics to how it’s processed within the body." This is exactly it. Homosapiens (all of us) who originated from & live on or near the equator are darker skinned as the pigment is natural sun screen. Skin pigmentation in the north is due to the lower levels of UV rays & a genetic mix with Neanderthals. About 2% of Neanderthal DNA lives within every white person and those with a mixed racial history, there is very few "pure homosapiens" and guess where they're from....rift valley, Africa so all pure humans are black africans. Pigmentation in short term (generational) is genetic as we know and see. Not starting a race argument, just mentioning human history | |||
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"Apparently there are over 90 vitamins and minerals that your body needs to survive, Obviously most are ingredients in the food you eat . vitamin D is one that’s vital for your immune system, there are lots of nutrition experts on line. Some very famous, GPs get very little training on nutrition unfortunately. vitamin d is responsible for regulating calcium, magnesium and phosphate. it has nothing to do with your immune system. " Do you have any medical qualification s ? | |||
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"https://www.insider.com/vitamin-d-benefits More on the benefits of Vitamin D and why we should keep our levels up. Wishing you all good health and happiness Mr Nuts you are a wise man indeed! I’ve rarely read so much sense on the forums. I have been an advocate of Vitamin D for years and have tried often unsuccessfully to convince others of its benefits. I work with the elderly (fast heading into that category myself!) and I believe they should all take it on a daily basis. I also have regular sunbeds but I won’t touch on that one as it’s always a contentious matter. As far as I know I’m healthy and doing ok for my age. Hopefully these new studies will encourage more people to take this daily dose of sunshine Miss V" Aw that's sweet Thank you. Unfortunately the wisdom is not my own I'm just repeating what some other wise people said Because I'm taking Vitamin D supplements, Miss C has started taking them. That got her dad taking them. Now her sisters family is taking them. I'm spreading a Vitamin D pandemic! Just remember folks. All things in moderation. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Please come back Mr Sunshine! We miss you!!! | |||
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"https://www.insider.com/vitamin-d-benefits More on the benefits of Vitamin D and why we should keep our levels up. Wishing you all good health and happiness Mr Nuts you are a wise man indeed! I’ve rarely read so much sense on the forums. I have been an advocate of Vitamin D for years and have tried often unsuccessfully to convince others of its benefits. I work with the elderly (fast heading into that category myself!) and I believe they should all take it on a daily basis. I also have regular sunbeds but I won’t touch on that one as it’s always a contentious matter. As far as I know I’m healthy and doing ok for my age. Hopefully these new studies will encourage more people to take this daily dose of sunshine Miss V Aw that's sweet Thank you. Unfortunately the wisdom is not my own I'm just repeating what some other wise people said Because I'm taking Vitamin D supplements, Miss C has started taking them. That got her dad taking them. Now her sisters family is taking them. I'm spreading a Vitamin D pandemic! Just remember folks. All things in moderation. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Please come back Mr Sunshine! We miss you!!! " Doesn’t matter where the info came from as long as others see and share it I’ve got Abby on it as well as Vit B complex and Vit C x | |||
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"The most likely explanation is that Vitamin D just lowers the risk of depression and thus stress on your body. It has a function in your immune system like anything you take, so obviously not getting enough will reduce it, but it doesn't mean overdosing somehow super charges it. There is really not going to be much wrong with taking supplements if you find yourself lacking your usual diet and excercise, but just don't treat it like a magic bullet. Ultimately what decides your fate with any disease is that your immune system is functioning and that it has the right anti-bodies if it's combatting a virus that has established itself in your body. You're more likely to keep yourself safe by avoiding contact with people face to face and just standing out in the garden/balcony when it's sunny and making the most of it." Its potential benefits are uncertain and could be for the prevention of extreme overload, in addition to any possible prevention of depression and or suppression of stress. It's certainly essential for us to have it, with its general need being widespread from muscular-skeletal and universally for healthy maintenance. The UK has initiated a research review, which may result in strengthening the case for all people with the virus to take it, or for population-wide supplementation. I'd quite like to see foods being supplemented with it, which should be even better in the winter months. | |||
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"Apparently there are over 90 vitamins and minerals that your body needs to survive, Obviously most are ingredients in the food you eat . vitamin D is one that’s vital for your immune system, there are lots of nutrition experts on line. Some very famous, GPs get very little training on nutrition unfortunately. vitamin d is responsible for regulating calcium, magnesium and phosphate. it has nothing to do with your immune system. " Have you reviewed and understood Hansdottir et al, Oliver et al and Greiller & Martineau? These and many other research papers highlight how vitamin D is involved in infections, including of the respiratory tract. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/17/uk-ministers-order-urgent-vitamin-d-coronavirus-review It looks like the officials are starting to pick up on the very sad BAME stats and relating them to Vitamin D. Wish they'd looked at this sooner... " They should have gotten themselves on fab! Someone looked at it earlier as I recall Chris Steele mentioning reports he read, when I started taking it. | |||
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"Our Doctor says you can never have enough Vitamin D, even though we live in the south of France with 300 days sunshine per year, she still prescribes Vitamin D. tablets for us." You can have enough vitamin D, it's a fat soluble vitamin.... | |||
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"Our Doctor says you can never have enough Vitamin D, even though we live in the south of France with 300 days sunshine per year, she still prescribes Vitamin D. tablets for us. You can have enough vitamin D, it's a fat soluble vitamin.... " Except that it's actually a hormone. | |||
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"Just sit down and take half a hour from the forums and watch this doctor explain about vitamin D in no bullshit English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMFsLFAE5o I've stocked up before the winter comes " And before the prices go up | |||
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"Apparently there are over 90 vitamins and minerals that your body needs to survive, Obviously most are ingredients in the food you eat . vitamin D is one that’s vital for your immune system, there are lots of nutrition experts on line. Some very famous, GPs get very little training on nutrition unfortunately. vitamin d is responsible for regulating calcium, magnesium and phosphate. it has nothing to do with your immune system. Have you reviewed and understood Hansdottir et al, Oliver et al and Greiller & Martineau? These and many other research papers highlight how vitamin D is involved in infections, including of the respiratory tract. " I notice that the person who stated that Vitamin D has not been back to discus this further. | |||
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"To me this was common sense, but then I have studied Vitamins and minerals for over 41yrs and written a book on the subject of Vitamins. IMO everyone in the UK needs 10000 IU daily. But Vit D is only a SMALL part of the defense,it alone will NOT do the job Also I had better add...timing is very important, you cannot just take at any time of the day Why 10000iu? Thats more than double the safe upper daily dose?" Keep in mind the reccomend daily allowance is only to survive NOT thrive. Of course not Vit D alone but for me to write every little detail about why it works and why everything I would suggest someone take would be far too long. IF I have someone face to face I CAN go into great detail, as ANY of my client's would confirm, both here and back in Kent and 2 clients at the moment are Dr's not gp's | |||
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"Apparently.. You can leave raw mushrooms in the sun for an hour and they generate vitamin D before you eat em " How does this relate to the required levels of Vitamin D3, its availability longevity within the body as an available source of the vitamin etc? | |||
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"https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/research-makes-possible-link-between-covid-19-risk-and-vitamin-d-deficiency-1.5090996 Funny how long it's taken..." Total lack of data I'd guess | |||
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"https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/research-makes-possible-link-between-covid-19-risk-and-vitamin-d-deficiency-1.5090996 Funny how long it's taken..." Not really that surprising - wheels turn very very slowly in research. 5 months? That isn't any time at all to produce the data that can then be wrtten into a paper and then peer-reviewed and then accepted as accepted 'fact'. | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ???? More multi generational households. Lower levels of vitamin D have long been associated with weakened immune systems. It was one of the criticisms of lockdown measures." And it rained so fooking much too lol | |||
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"so spain ???? italy ????? sunny climate ???? More multi generational households. Lower levels of vitamin D have long been associated with weakened immune systems. It was one of the criticisms of lockdown measures. And it rained so fooking much too lol" Darker skinned people who originate from sunny climates require more sunlight to produce Vitamin D than lighter skinned people from less sunny climates. This is consistent with a high mortality rate in our BAME population and also why Northern Italy was hit harder than Southern Italy. Countries who were in summer when Covid-19 struck weren't hit as hard as countries experiencing their winter. It's also well known that older people produce less Vitamin D. The age range for Covid-19 relates directly with the time that Vitamin D production tapers off. It is also fair to say that younger people spend more time outdoors than the elderly. At the end of the day, if Vitamin D does have a significant role in fighting Covid-19 (and I haven't seen proof suggesting otherwise), does it not make sense, with winter coming and no vaccine available, that we embark on a campaign of Vitamin D supplements? I'm not suggesting OVER supplementation. Just making sure our population doesn't become Vitamin D deficienct. | |||
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"Maybe that's why my Covid illness was so mild? I've taken 1000IU Vit D supplement daily since I was diagnosed as severely deficient a few years ago. It's certainly an interesting hypothesis and we know Vit D has various essential functions, so being chronically deficient is always going to cause problems. " My Mme' Always used to say 'October to May go out and Play' (of course she might just have wanted a quiet house!) | |||
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"Maybe that's why my Covid illness was so mild? I've taken 1000IU Vit D supplement daily since I was diagnosed as severely deficient a few years ago. It's certainly an interesting hypothesis and we know Vit D has various essential functions, so being chronically deficient is always going to cause problems. My Mme' Always used to say 'October to May go out and Play' (of course she might just have wanted a quiet house!)" Our daughter spent lockdown and most days at home since in the garden, so hopefully she is OK for now. I wish S would take Vit D, as he's quite dark skinned and although he does go outside a lot, he often wears long sleeves etc. | |||
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"I have very low levels of vit D. I take a high dose of it. I also spend a lot of time outside. It hasn't helped with my health at all though." It helps your immune system it doesn't cure anything. | |||
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" red heads should be immune to covid then as they can make their own vitamin d even on dark gloomy days..thank god for my freckles " Actually none of us in the UK can make any Vit D naturally between about October and April. The wavelengths of sunlight striking us, even on the clearest, sunniest day, are not the right wavelengths to stimulate Vit D synthesis. | |||
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"Boosting immune system sounds a good Idea..but going to pub dont." Sit in the beer garden and drink tap water. Win win | |||
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"Nobody is going to suggest a direct link between covid19 and anti-d (yet) But the effects on the immune system have been well documented and lectured on worldwide. 30 year old research is 10 years out of date" Anti-d is given to rhesus negative mothers who have given birth to rhesus positive babies | |||
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