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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … " Can I see friends and family or not?  | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? " The word possible ? Is it possible for me to see friends and family? Is it possible for me to hug people or not? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … " See. All that makes sense to me. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me." What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? " The fact that none of these actions have anything to do with alertness. | |||
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"Can you visit a friend" Possibly  | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not? ", I think that will be a no unfortunately, nothing much is changing, just got to be alert whilst we're doing it  | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? " its clearly and intentionally open to interpretation will mean different things to different people | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? its clearly and intentionally open to interpretation will mean different things to different people " Totally agree | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? " As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? " To me it means, only go out if essential | |||
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"Can you visit a friend" I have to visit people for work and have to get closer than 2 meters to them so I don’t really get what the point in having a lockdown has been when you still have to work with strangers with no face masks or anything? | |||
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" PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol" Wise move  | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? The fact that none of these actions have anything to do with alertness." Absolutely nothing to do with alertness This just sounds jingoistic Euck And no the other parts are certainly OPEN to interpretation | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? To me it means, only go out if essential" To you it does, do you think it will mean the same for everyone ? Possible is very vague | |||
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" PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol Wise move "I think there is a lot of danger in a McDonalds anyways! | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? The word possible ? Is it possible for me to see friends and family? Is it possible for me to hug people or not? " Yeah if you like ... fill yer boots ! | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol" And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? To me it means, only go out if essential" Exactly, doesn't take much to confuse people tho, is it that difficult to understand.. | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? The word possible ? Is it possible for me to see friends and family? Is it possible for me to hug people or not? Yeah if you like ... fill yer boots ! " Great. It is ‘possible ‘ that I will do that but I will limit contact where ‘possible’ | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? To me it means, only go out if essential Exactly, doesn't take much to confuse people tho, is it that difficult to understand.. " Why didn’t they use the word essential then ? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? To me it means, only go out if essential To you it does, do you think it will mean the same for everyone ? Possible is very vague " No of course it won't, some will take advantage of it. You've still got to do what is right for you and your safety. I shall be staying at home and only go out when necessary  | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? To me it means, only go out if essential Exactly, doesn't take much to confuse people tho, is it that difficult to understand.. Why didn’t they use the word essential then ? "Can't answer that one,I wasn't party to making the 'new' regulations | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people " So. Clearly. What does it mean to you personally? (Respectfully asking BTW). | |||
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"I’d have thought people would have stopped needing to be lead by the hand once they’d left primary school." I am not a medical expert or an epidemiologist. I except to be given scientific advice. | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people So. Clearly. What does it mean to you personally? (Respectfully asking BTW)." It means that it is possible for me to go and see friends and family , it is possible for me to go to the park with who I want when I want . It doesn’t really mean anything definitive because the word possible is so vague . | |||
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" So. Clearly. What does it mean to you personally? (Respectfully asking BTW). It means that it is possible for me to go and see friends and family , it is possible for me to go to the park with who I want when I want . It doesn’t really mean anything definitive because the word possible is so vague . " Hoping 7pm will make it all clear. | |||
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"I’d have thought people would have stopped needing to be lead by the hand once they’d left primary school. I am not a medical expert or an epidemiologist. I except to be given scientific advice. " I’ll put you on the list for Red Cross parcels | |||
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"I also have the feeling that this is the most anticipated 'Broadcast' in a Century." And it isn’t being done live, but that is for another post | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not? "Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus? | |||
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"I’d have thought people would have stopped needing to be lead by the hand once they’d left primary school." Did you go into lockdown before the government made the announcement in March ? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?"It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home? | |||
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"I’d have thought people would have stopped needing to be lead by the hand once they’d left primary school. Did you go into lockdown before the government made the announcement in March ? "Yes  | |||
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"I’d have thought people would have stopped needing to be lead by the hand once they’d left primary school. Did you go into lockdown before the government made the announcement in March ?
Yes "I am guessing the majority of the population did the same? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home? "Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection."Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so "Where does it say you can meet friends? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so "You have to do what is right for the safety of yourself, friends and family. If you're all happy seeing each other, you know the risks of that. For instance, my niece is 35 weeks pregnant, I won't go anywhere near her and it is unlikely I will see her baby in the first few weeks or months, sadly.. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?"Where does it say you can’t ??? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?"Where does it say that you can't? Stay home as much as.possible is completely open to interpretation And clear as mud | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
You have to do what is right for the safety of yourself, friends and family. If you're all happy seeing each other, you know the risks of that. For instance, my niece is 35 weeks pregnant, I won't go anywhere near her and it is unlikely I will see her baby in the first few weeks or months, sadly.."I agree, hopefully once testing numbers increase it will be possible to see your niece soon | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?
Where does it say you can’t ??? "I was once told not to stick my fingers into an electrical socket. I’ve never needed to be told it every day since. | |||
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"Let’s wait till the broadcast and see. Plenty of time to work yourself up afterwards. " Do you mean the prerecorded broadcast? I can’t imagine it will be very informative, I am will to bet Boris says ‘stay alert’ at least 5 times without once explaining what it means | |||
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"Let’s wait till the broadcast and see. Plenty of time to work yourself up afterwards. " Hopefully there will be more clarification, if not, it is open to interpretation, but people know by now what is safe and what isnt. The virus will still be about tomorrow, nothing has changed there | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?
Where does it say you can’t ???
I was once told not to stick my fingers into an electrical socket. I’ve never needed to be told it every day since."You can’t get your fingers into an electrical socket , and even if you did you wouldn’t get an electrical shock | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
You have to do what is right for the safety of yourself, friends and family. If you're all happy seeing each other, you know the risks of that. For instance, my niece is 35 weeks pregnant, I won't go anywhere near her and it is unlikely I will see her baby in the first few weeks or months, sadly..
I agree, hopefully once testing numbers increase it will be possible to see your niece soon "Thank you, I hope so | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?
Where does it say you can’t ???
I was once told not to stick my fingers into an electrical socket. I’ve never needed to be told it every day since."That's because you and I and most here have at least half a brain Clear simple messages are for the huge part of the population that are fucking morons,they are mostly the problem here | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?
Where does it say you can’t ???
I was once told not to stick my fingers into an electrical socket. I’ve never needed to be told it every day since.
That's because you and I and most here have at least half a brain
Clear simple messages are for the huge part of the population that are fucking morons,they are mostly the problem here"If people are prepared to go out when they were told to ‘Stay at home ‘ imagine what will happen now they are told to ‘stay in where possible’ I can guarantee their will be parties and gathering tonight . And where does this leave the Police, how do they enforce this | |||
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"It's almost like boris's mate cummings had been leaking bits of what might happen and the devolved parts of the UK having not been consulted decided to stick with the protocols apart from a few tweaks.. And given the broadcast was not going to be live with no clarification to the different types of lockdown we seem to have, some bright spin doctor has come up with the above.. Which is vague.. I forsee a minister being sacked to further deflect from what is only looking more and more like an administration scrabbling about to try and look competent.. " My money is on Matt Hancock getting the bullet | |||
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"It's almost like boris's mate cummings had been leaking bits of what might happen and the devolved parts of the UK having not been consulted decided to stick with the protocols apart from a few tweaks.. And given the broadcast was not going to be live with no clarification to the different types of lockdown we seem to have, some bright spin doctor has come up with the above.. Which is vague.. I forsee a minister being sacked to further deflect from what is only looking more and more like an administration scrabbling about to try and look competent.. My money is on Matt Hancock getting the bullet " Would go with him too, others like Patel have largely dodged the spotlight and he is in the spotlight and the tone is being set with leaks about him and Boris.. | |||
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"It's almost like boris's mate cummings had been leaking bits of what might happen and the devolved parts of the UK having not been consulted decided to stick with the protocols apart from a few tweaks.. And given the broadcast was not going to be live with no clarification to the different types of lockdown we seem to have, some bright spin doctor has come up with the above.. Which is vague.. I forsee a minister being sacked to further deflect from what is only looking more and more like an administration scrabbling about to try and look competent.. My money is on Matt Hancock getting the bullet Would go with him too, others like Patel have largely dodged the spotlight and he is in the spotlight and the tone is being set with leaks about him and Boris.. " Yep, Cummings will make him the sacrificial lamb for the PPE and testing balls ups | |||
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"It's almost like boris's mate cummings had been leaking bits of what might happen and the devolved parts of the UK having not been consulted decided to stick with the protocols apart from a few tweaks.. And given the broadcast was not going to be live with no clarification to the different types of lockdown we seem to have, some bright spin doctor has come up with the above.. Which is vague.. I forsee a minister being sacked to further deflect from what is only looking more and more like an administration scrabbling about to try and look competent.. My money is on Matt Hancock getting the bullet Would go with him too, others like Patel have largely dodged the spotlight and he is in the spotlight and the tone is being set with leaks about him and Boris.. " Hancock is toast. He’s going to be the fall guy for now. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?
Where does it say you can’t ???
I was once told not to stick my fingers into an electrical socket. I’ve never needed to be told it every day since.
That's because you and I and most here have at least half a brain
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"STAY ALERT to me means make sure your partner isn't bonking the guy who told you to stay at home
Just kidding "The bitch . Sothsts why she likes work so much | |||
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"STAY ALERT to me means make sure your partner isn't bonking the guy who told you to stay at home
Just kidding
The bitch .
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"STAY ALERT to me means make sure your partner isn't bonking the guy who told you to stay at home
Just kidding
The bitch .
Sothsts why she likes work so much
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. " Can you define the word ‘possible ‘ ? | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?"It very clearly doesn't. Unless you are deliberately looking for excuses to misinterpret things. | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. " Boris is great with english,right laugh,Latin phrases and all Fuckin clown is all he is Blaming journalists about this clusterfuck is ridiculous | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not?
Would you consider that you could possibly be a carrier of the virus and so pass it on to your friends or family, or are you confident that you haven't been in contact with the virus?
It is possible, do you have to go to work or do you work from home?
Then if it is possible, there is your answer. You wouldn't want to pass it on to your family and friends. Me, I am a carer for my 90 year old Dad and my disabled brother, so I limit the amount of time I go out in public, for their protection.
Quite rightly you wouldnt risk their health, I live alone and have to travel to work so it is possible i will be meeting friends as the government has now given me the green light to do so
Where does it say you can meet friends?
It very clearly doesn't. Unless you are deliberately looking for excuses to misinterpret things."Is it ‘possible ‘ for you to meet friends? | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. Can you define the word ‘possible ‘ ? " Possible to me means "capable of being done" but I'm sure there are things called dictionaries where you could check for yourself... I believe that some of them are even available online. | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. Can you define the word ‘possible ‘ ? Possible to me means "capable of being done" but I'm sure there are things called dictionaries where you could check for yourself... I believe that some of them are even available online. " Thanks, saved me having to look it up, | |||
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"i would of thought after six weeks most peeps would know what not to do.like someone said people will nend the words to suit themselves.im guessing it will be the same ones who have been taking no notice anyway.simple if you dont feel safe yet carry on with what you been doing the last six weeks.if you wana risk meeting freinds and family crack on with it if there ok with it" the government are actively encouraging more businesses to reopen keeping on doing what your doing isn't possible for everyone | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … See. All that makes sense to me. What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? To me it means, only go out if essential Exactly, doesn't take much to confuse people tho, is it that difficult to understand.. Why didn’t they use the word essential then ? "I’m sure they said Stay Home unless it was essential not to, ie work, food or medical but a lot of people didn’t understand that so what does it matter what the new statement is if not everyone adhered to the first one. | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. Boris is great with english,right laugh,Latin phrases and all Fuckin clown is all he is Blaming journalists about this clusterfuck is ridiculous" Hi sorry I'm new to this country. What did Boris do for a living before he became a politician? | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. Can you define the word ‘possible ‘ ? Possible to me means "capable of being done" but I'm sure there are things called dictionaries where you could check for yourself... I believe that some of them are even available online. Thanks, saved me having to look it up, "See? I told you fab forum was a good place to learn new things! | |||
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"It's deliberately vague because the government want to get the economy moving again, but they don't want to be seen to be responsible for infections increasing again. It's a massive abdication of responsibility. Sadly it seems there's a solid 40-45% of the country at the moment who will support the Tories no matter what, so they'll probably get away with it." Well said!... | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. Boris is great with english,right laugh,Latin phrases and all Fuckin clown is all he is Blaming journalists about this clusterfuck is ridiculous Hi sorry I'm new to this country. What did Boris do for a living before he became a politician?" What has his past job got to do with anything? His fucking up his new job is much more relevant | |||
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"Wishy washy advice from the government already being ignored by arrogant people " What did you think would happen. | |||
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"Can you visit a friend Clearly not...unless you are seeking to deliberately mis-interpret things. I prefer to leave that to journalists. Despite most having an English degree they seem to have a rather vague grasp of their native language. Boris is great with english,right laugh,Latin phrases and all Fuckin clown is all he is Blaming journalists about this clusterfuck is ridiculous Hi sorry I'm new to this country. What did Boris do for a living before he became a politician? What has his past job got to do with anything? His fucking up his new job is much more relevant" Well it would have a great deal to do with the argument if Boris used to be a journalist. Because if he had formerly been a journalist then Boris vs Journalists would amount to Boris vs Boris. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not? "I suggest you wait until the government actually announce whats happening at 7pm before getting confused over news speculation. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not? I suggest you wait until the government actually announce whats happening at 7pm before getting confused over news speculation. "It is on his twitter account, keep up | |||
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"Which bits are causing you most problems with understanding? its clearly and intentionally open to interpretation will mean different things to different people " Including the police!  | |||
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"‘Stay alert’ bingo, i am going for 8 "So few? He's never had that much restraint. | |||
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"‘Stay alert’ bingo, i am going for 8
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"Well that’s cleared up whether you can meet others. " Has it? | |||
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"Well that’s cleared up whether you can meet others. Has it? " You can only exercise with members of the same household. You need to maintain social distancing. | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st " Just watching the Scottish one now | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Couldn’t have been more confusing if he’d said it in Serbo Croat " Yeah but he confused everyone with real conviction He said bugger all like he meant it | |||
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"Well that’s cleared up whether you can meet others. Has it? You can only exercise with members of the same household. You need to maintain social distancing. " Need to where possible | |||
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"So we can now sit in parks legally and travel for days out with our household " Yeah and if we are good boys and girls he will ease it further, how patronising did that sound | |||
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it is not obvious that's a no no no no .........
Can I lick them then? You didn't mention licking....
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st " the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! | |||
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"Only used "stay alert" twice before saying the final 3 part slogan at the end. Anyone who says they didnt understand the whole statement either didn't listen or is deliberately causing mischief...nothing vague at all. More details to follow in parliament tomorrow. " I was very disappointed with the number of ‘stay alerts’ he did make up the numbers with the maybes and possibles | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september!" Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius | |||
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"I'm not sure what To do? Can I kiss friends Fuck them Hug Shake hands Carry a gun Get an elephant Go out naked I need clarification it is not obvious that's a no no no no .........
Can I lick them then? You didn't mention licking....
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"Totally confusing message...nothing has changed yet it has...stay in but play sports in the park....work from home but go to work if your employer is practicing social distance measures.....do this but do that except dont do this or that....would like to see the outakes from that bit of theatre "All seemed clear to me. | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people " The words as much as possible actually have a very clear meaning ... its the same as saying if you can you should So if you can stay home then you should stay home People who choose to interpret it differently are doing so because it suits what they would rather do than are able to do | |||
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"I'm not sure what To do? Can I kiss friends Fuck them Hug Shake hands Carry a gun Get an elephant Go out naked I need clarification it is not obvious that's a no no no no .........
Can I lick them then? You didn't mention licking....
Ffs boris you didn't even mention licking lol "You can kiss, hug, or fuck a gun. But not lick it. You may shake an elephant while naked, but not lick it. The main think is to stay alert while you're doing these things. | |||
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"Totally confusing message...nothing has changed yet it has...stay in but play sports in the park....work from home but go to work if your employer is practicing social distance measures.....do this but do that except dont do this or that....would like to see the outakes from that bit of theatre All seemed clear to me. "I bet it did , | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people The words as much as possible actually have a very clear meaning ... its the same as saying if you can you should So if you can stay home then you should stay home People who choose to interpret it differently are doing so because it suits what they would rather do than are able to do " But we have now been given the choice. Why has it gone from stay at home to stay at home where possible? Limit human contact to limit human contact where possible? | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius" It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that. | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people The words as much as possible actually have a very clear meaning ... its the same as saying if you can you should So if you can stay home then you should stay home People who choose to interpret it differently are doing so because it suits what they would rather do than are able to do But we have now been given the choice. Why has it gone from stay at home to stay at home where possible? Limit human contact to limit human contact where possible? " I think the word possible needs to be substituted with practical or practicable. Many things are possible but the world would simply not function properly if we did them. | |||
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"So we can now sit in parks legally and travel for days out with our household Yeah and if we are good boys and girls he will ease it further, how patronising did that sound "Not really, he’s saying the public can have a little more freedom of movement but don’t be stupid asses in social gathering and not social distancing or we will end up back where we started and as most say the first lockdown wasn’t strict/limiting enough but they still went out Willy nilly so there’s no wonder he portrayed it that way, think I would have been a bit stronger in putting that across that if you the public mess it up then your to blame for going back to square one. | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people The words as much as possible actually have a very clear meaning ... its the same as saying if you can you should So if you can stay home then you should stay home People who choose to interpret it differently are doing so because it suits what they would rather do than are able to do But we have now been given the choice. Why has it gone from stay at home to stay at home where possible? Limit human contact to limit human contact where possible? " He’s giving you a little more freedom but asking you to use common sense, yes you can kick the ball in the park with your son now but don’t take next doors kids with you kind of thing. | |||
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"So we can now sit in parks legally and travel for days out with our household Yeah and if we are good boys and girls he will ease it further, how patronising did that sound
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" Because half the country have been screaming for weeks that they need to get back to some normality before the whole economy collapses " No they haven't. Opinion polls have shown huge support for the lockdown. Don't make stuff up to try and make a point. | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that." It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that. It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How?" They are more likely to be cared for by their grandparents. | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that. It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How?" Just thinking this myself. | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that. It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How?" The youngest ones take longer to settle back into a school routine and need more time to adjust to social distancing in school | |||
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"I'm not sure what To do? Can I kiss friends Fuck them Hug Shake hands Carry a gun Get an elephant Go out naked I need clarification it is not obvious that's a no no no no .........
Can I lick them then? You didn't mention licking....
Ffs boris you didn't even mention licking lol
You can kiss, hug, or fuck a gun. But not lick it. You may shake an elephant while naked, but not lick it. The main think is to stay alert while you're doing these things." I'd stay alert while doing those things, better still I'd stay in! | |||
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" Because half the country have been screaming for weeks that they need to get back to some normality before the whole economy collapses No they haven't. Opinion polls have shown huge support for the lockdown. Don't make stuff up to try and make a point. " Have you read these forums at all? Because there are plenty people desperate to get back out to work I’m not one of them i have been working from home the whole time, but its not a lie to say those people exist | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that. It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? They are more likely to be cared for by their grandparents. " But we arent allowed to mix households And grandparents are more likely to be in the vulnerable groups And small children will struggle to remember/ understand that they have to stay apart Especially if they havent seen their friends for weeks | |||
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"I'm not sure what To do? Can I kiss friends Fuck them Hug Shake hands Carry a gun Get an elephant Go out naked I need clarification it is not obvious that's a no no no no .........
Can I lick them then? You didn't mention licking....
Ffs boris you didn't even mention licking lol
Go to your local park next weekend and tell me what you have seen "Yes everyone ignores it, the diet the rules the ..... And then say, I don't understand, can't I do whatever I like without consequences! Like really! | |||
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" It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How?" those are the ones making the transition from reception into yr 1 (nursary to primary in old money).... those may need to most help adjusting and their teachers can help them same reasoning for those going from primary into secondary.... | |||
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"Be alert.... Your country needs lerts " No, be aware, the country has too many lerts  | |||
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" It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? those are the ones making the transition from reception into yr 1 (nursary to primary in old money).... those may need to most help adjusting and their teachers can help them same reasoning for those going from primary into secondary...." Boris said that reception and yr one will be allowed back Reception is the first year of full time school so no major transition | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Couldn’t have been more confusing if he’d said it in Serbo Croat Yeah but he confused everyone with real conviction He said bugger all like he meant it" Yeah; and that’s the tragedy- people are going to interpret it | |||
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" It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? those are the ones making the transition from reception into yr 1 (nursary to primary in old money).... those may need to most help adjusting and their teachers can help them same reasoning for those going from primary into secondary.... Boris said that reception and yr one will be allowed back Reception is the first year of full time school so no major transition" Id imagine education experts have been asked to assess what stages of school they see as most critical to a child’s educational development , exam time, that last transitional period before you move from having one teacher all week to a larger school with multiple teachers when its easier to fall through The cracks and early stage learning reading writing and numbers that set you up for the rest of school obviously came out top | |||
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"Unlimited exercise confirmed and schools could start returning June 1st the schools things.... not quite.... first ones back would be kids who are due to go from nursary into primary, and primary into secondary... otherwise.... i think you are looking at september! Yeah Theyre letting the youngest ones go back first The ones that are the least likely to understand that they cant play tag Genius It makes sense it's the young ones who will be picked up by granny and grandpa while mum and dad are at work. I can't see anything wrong with that. It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? They are more likely to be cared for by their grandparents. But we arent allowed to mix households And grandparents are more likely to be in the vulnerable groups And small children will struggle to remember/ understand that they have to stay apart Especially if they havent seen their friends for weeks" I think the decision is based on getting parents back to work and hence those needing daycare back to schools and institutionalised daycare. That it puts the elderly at risk doesn't seem to be a factor. | |||
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" It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? those are the ones making the transition from reception into yr 1 (nursary to primary in old money).... those may need to most help adjusting and their teachers can help them same reasoning for those going from primary into secondary.... Boris said that reception and yr one will be allowed back Reception is the first year of full time school so no major transition Id imagine education experts have been asked to assess what stages of school they see as most critical to a child’s educational development , exam time, that last transitional period before you move from having one teacher all week to a larger school with multiple teachers when its easier to fall through The cracks and early stage learning reading writing and numbers that set you up for the rest of school obviously came out top " I guess so, and I'm not saying for a minute that these decisions are easy. I certainly wouldnt want to have to make them Not least because of the potential issues with childcare. Most people dont work 9-3 But I dont get why theyve chosen the youngest children to go back first. At the end of the day, if 4yr olds are a few months behind with their reading, they are ALL going to be behind. | |||
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" What does ‘as much as possible ‘ mean to you and do you think it will mean the same for everyone? As much as possible means to me that if I really don't need to do it then don't go and do it. Then I am limiting those chances of meeting people that I don't need to meet. For example I don't NEED a McDonalds but I might want one. So I'll avoid that and avoid others who are serving them to me. I do NEED Fuel so I won't avoid that but I will STAY ALERT to the dangers of the grip on the pump handle and the pay machine etc. PS. The likleyhood of me eating a McDonalds it nil anyways lol And here is the problem , it doesn’t mean that to me , and it won’t mean that to millions of other people The words as much as possible actually have a very clear meaning ... its the same as saying if you can you should So if you can stay home then you should stay home People who choose to interpret it differently are doing so because it suits what they would rather do than are able to do But we have now been given the choice. Why has it gone from stay at home to stay at home where possible? Limit human contact to limit human contact where possible? Because half the country have been screaming for weeks that they need to get back to some normality before the whole economy collapses Because another portion have been yelling about how their freedom has been infringed on Because we don't live in a dictatorship and (stupidly) they think we have a nation of mostly adults that should be able to use common sense in making rationale choices If these forums are anything to go by we would be better off living in korea or being provided with a personalised hour by hour schedule of how we should live our lives because the concept of applying common sense to a set of guidelines seems to be blowing peoples minds " | |||
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" It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? those are the ones making the transition from reception into yr 1 (nursary to primary in old money).... those may need to most help adjusting and their teachers can help them same reasoning for those going from primary into secondary.... Boris said that reception and yr one will be allowed back Reception is the first year of full time school so no major transition Id imagine education experts have been asked to assess what stages of school they see as most critical to a child’s educational development , exam time, that last transitional period before you move from having one teacher all week to a larger school with multiple teachers when its easier to fall through The cracks and early stage learning reading writing and numbers that set you up for the rest of school obviously came out top I guess so, and I'm not saying for a minute that these decisions are easy. I certainly wouldnt want to have to make them Not least because of the potential issues with childcare. Most people dont work 9-3 But I dont get why theyve chosen the youngest children to go back first. At the end of the day, if 4yr olds are a few months behind with their reading, they are ALL going to be behind. " But falling 4 months behind on your fundamentals could push you back the whole way through your learning, the younger you are the more like a sponge your brain is (that not scientific i know its just my understanding and i think its why they say its much easier to learn a foreign language when you are very young than as adult) The more of this prime time to start these kids off well that is missed, when they need very guided learning, the harder it might be for them to ever catch up Generally the older kids have these foundations already and will be able to catch up those missed teaching hours much easier is what i would have thought I know childcare will be an issue for some but i doubt it came into the reasoning, afterall the purpose of the school isnt actually to look after children its to educate them | |||
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I think this is a case where people should act.
We've all been schooled in this over the last couple of months. I'm sure people already know how to act. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … Can I see friends and family or not? "Not...... he stated could spend more time outside but only with members of your own household. | |||
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" It makes sense to send the 4 and 5 yr olds back first? How? those are the ones making the transition from reception into yr 1 (nursary to primary in old money).... those may need to most help adjusting and their teachers can help them same reasoning for those going from primary into secondary...." Reception is not nursery, reception IS primary school | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … " In summary what I take away from this thread is that the difference between STAY AT HOME and STAY ALERT is one of kind, not degree. The former is a simple top-down instruction. The latter recommends a form of moral devolution to each individual. Further I sense (so personal opinion only) that the driver of change is almost unquestionably related to restoring the economic focus of the country. Therefore my last remaining unknown is which country are we talking about?! Thanks all. | |||
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"Stay alert explained by bj’s official spokesman (MEN online 10/05) • Stay alert by staying home as much as possible • Stay alert by working from home if you can • Stay alert by limiting contact with other people • Stay alert by keeping distance if you go out (2 metres where possible) • Stay alert by washing your hands regularly Well that’s all clear then … " Very very clear | |||
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