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By *s.Kerry OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Blackpool |
Well finally we shall get to hear from Boris what the near future holds.. Yes it's only a 'roadmap' and is subject to change, but I for one will be glad to hear officially, instead of the more speculative thoughts given by some, what life will be possibly like..
Oh I'll gladly supply tea and biscuits if needed (Subject to social distancing of course)  |
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After watching the news this morning this seems to be already happing.
People in parks sun bathing, have picnics, playing football and other games.
Police admitted they are struggling to control what is happening. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't expect to much just yet as I can't see anything happening, why does it have to be 3 weeks before another review (in Wales) what else are they doing at the moment! "
It's to do with the time delays created by the virus..
Day 1 catch it.
Day 1 to 14...pre symptoms..but can be contagious.
Then anywhere up to another 7 to 14 days I'll..and if deterioration and needing hospital..that follows..
So you can have 1 person day 1 to hospital..being a month after catching it...
Hence the need for the longer reviews..so they can see the trends |
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
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"Don't expect to much just yet as I can't see anything happening, why does it have to be 3 weeks before another review (in Wales) what else are they doing at the moment!
It's to do with the time delays created by the virus..
Day 1 catch it.
Day 1 to 14...pre symptoms..but can be contagious.
Then anywhere up to another 7 to 14 days I'll..and if deterioration and needing hospital..that follows..
So you can have 1 person day 1 to hospital..being a month after catching it...
Hence the need for the longer reviews..so they can see the trends"
They will be watching the infection rates closely for the next 14 days after this weekends virus distribution |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
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There is plenty of help for the self-employed! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
There is plenty of help for the self-employed! "
There is potentially help but not if you are newly self-employed (less than a year) which leaves universal credit which is a slow and awkward process.
I am being asked to do work all over the place with lots of new clients which is good news but potentially lots of unpaid bills as these new clients may lose their jobs too.
Its not going to be easy for anyone! |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
There is plenty of help for the self-employed! "
Yes, in July. And £94 per week. |
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"Don't expect to much just yet as I can't see anything happening, why does it have to be 3 weeks before another review (in Wales) what else are they doing at the moment!
It's to do with the time delays created by the virus..
Day 1 catch it.
Day 1 to 14...pre symptoms..but can be contagious.
Then anywhere up to another 7 to 14 days I'll..and if deterioration and needing hospital..that follows..
So you can have 1 person day 1 to hospital..being a month after catching it...
Hence the need for the longer reviews..so they can see the trends
They will be watching the infection rates closely for the next 14 days after this weekends virus distribution "
You mean they might increase testing to maybe 50000 a day ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this."
As ever Westminster have been almost entirely useless.
Fudging numbers,buying useless kit, mumbling advice..
No better can be expected from the bumbling buffoon. |
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Whatever is said people will do what they want as is happening now.
They tell all of us to only go out for essential things, food, medical things, exercise. That's been hammered home to us each day, then on the news they show the road blocked by cars trying to get into a KFC.
There hasn't been an official lock down in this country, companies chose to close there doors and now they are choosing to re-open them.
The people running this country are weaker than a cup of tea made with full fat milk. |
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"I think most are waiting to hear if the rules on gatherings will be relaxed so we can see family and friends again. Think it might be a bit premature for that though "
I'm not sure why anyone would allow the government to decide whether they can see their family. That's a decision for the individuals concerned after weighing up the balance of risk and reward. The police aren't going to be any the wiser and, for the most part, are nowhere to be seen. |
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"Whatever is said people will do what they want as is happening now.
They tell all of us to only go out for essential things, food, medical things, exercise. That's been hammered home to us each day, then on the news they show the road blocked by cars trying to get into a KFC.
There hasn't been an official lock down in this country, companies chose to close there doors and now they are choosing to re-open them.
The people running this country are weaker than a cup of tea made with full fat milk."
Everyone assumes that other countries are stricter than us but I've been in Paris for two weeks now. I've never been asked by the police to show my form showing why I'm out. Half the people don't respect distancing in shops which is only 1m anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?"
Plenty of countries have. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
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Fill in from 13th may. 3 months money in account 6 days later. |
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It matter's nothing what they do in other countries, we are the UK, we are an island, there should have been control as to what happened when people arrived in this country months ago.
I find are some people always say, well it didn't happen like that in that country, so what, does it matter, we elect people to run this country not to follow what happens in other countries... |
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?"
Why is this the go to trump card here? As another said, plenty of other countries have done better and actually made clear rules not to be broken. All the UK government have done, for England at least, is set out guidelines. Guidelines, not rules. And before the fab brigade get on me and say 'so irresponsible, you're obviously breaking them' I'm not breaking any rules, I'm not even going against the guidelines. But with most things they have said, they have then contradicted themselves later down the line. The best example is when the government initially announced the 'lockdown.' Stay at home, they said. Only go to work if it is essential, they said. That was on the Tuesday morning. By evening, that message had changed to 'go to work (unless you can work from home)' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?"
The government have done well with the financial side of the pandemic but have been useless dealing with the human cost . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I just want to know if it's fine for me to return to work .
So the mrs doesn't have to work 6 12 hour shifts per week"
What do you do? I think it’s always been fine to work as long as they have social distancing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Commercial roofing all over the country .
Main problem is transport 2 per vehicle is not permitted.
Plus waiting on the sites we work on to sort out their 2 metre procedures up.
You need to work in pairs so its tricky.
Been on furlough since it was announced.
Hopefully the government start put pressure on sites to sort their crap out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Commercial roofing all over the country .
Main problem is transport 2 per vehicle is not permitted.
Plus waiting on the sites we work on to sort out their 2 metre procedures up.
You need to work in pairs so its tricky.
Been on furlough since it was announced.
Hopefully the government start put pressure on sites to sort their crap out."
Ah right, yeah that most be frustrating, fingers crossed you can get back working soon |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Commercial roofing all over the country .
Main problem is transport 2 per vehicle is not permitted.
Plus waiting on the sites we work on to sort out their 2 metre procedures up.
You need to work in pairs so its tricky.
Been on furlough since it was announced.
Hopefully the government start put pressure on sites to sort their crap out.
Ah right, yeah that most be frustrating, fingers crossed you can get back working soon "
Thank you. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this."
It's only unclear for those who cant read or listen.
Its has been stay in except for essential shopping or for exercise or medical reasons or work if you cant work from home, hardly difficult to grasp is it.
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"Well finally we shall get to hear from Boris what the near future holds.. Yes it's only a 'roadmap' and is subject to change, but I for one will be glad to hear officially, instead of the more speculative thoughts given by some, what life will be possibly like..
Oh I'll gladly supply tea and biscuits if needed (Subject to social distancing of course) "
Resignation speech? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this."
True. It's just about hearing what he has to say given he has been through it and was near death!? He personally knows how deadly this virus can be.
I want this disruption to end just as much as everyone else, but hopefully it will happen in responsible, sensible phases. I know so many are out and about still meeting so let's see what the gov is going to suggest we do to try and get back to some 'normality' ... |
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By *s.Kerry OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Blackpool |
All I am realistically expecting is some form of 'timetable', albeit even that may be changed should circumstances change, to update us. Well those of us that do care to listen rather than speculate as so many appear to do  |
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?
The government have done well with the financial side of the pandemic but have been useless dealing with the human cost . "
Shame they couldn't give a few bob to stop unfortunate people being outside in the winter and freezing to death. Instead of choosing to let it happen just to make a political point. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
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This 
You missed out some quote in Latin and something about Churchill or the VE Day celebrations.
He and his government are a mess
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There was a nurse form Newcastle Hospital trust this morning on Breakfast TV who said was extremely happy with her local trust's ability in dealing with the Pandemic and very happy with public support too. She said the PPE was always well resourced and she was very happy with the response. She didn't look like a government Stooge. Just an ordinary nurse doing her job. If someone can say this woman was a stooge then I stand corrected. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this.
It's only unclear for those who cant read or listen.
Its has been stay in except for essential shopping or for exercise or medical reasons or work if you cant work from home, hardly difficult to grasp is it.
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Haha if only it was that simple because even the police were confused... throughout the country forces doing different things... some went too extreme and others been way to relaxed. It was all mumble jumble by the gov at the beginning... some would say it still is now... but I do think they got a little grip on it over time.
Should have been a much better response, clear and precise. The most important thing was they got going too late. They knew about this since last year so was always going to be difficult to catch up hence the death toll and severe disruption to our lives now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this.
It's only unclear for those who cant read or listen.
Its has been stay in except for essential shopping or for exercise or medical reasons or work if you cant work from home, hardly difficult to grasp is it.
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Looks like a lot of people are ignoring or don’t care what the government is saying then |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?
The government have done well with the financial side of the pandemic but have been useless dealing with the human cost .
Shame they couldn't give a few bob to stop unfortunate people being outside in the winter and freezing to death. Instead of choosing to let it happen just to make a political point. "
It's almost as if they could've done it they had wanted to... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Shame they couldn't give a few bob to stop unfortunate people being outside in the winter and freezing to death. Instead of choosing to let it happen just to make a political point. "
They do.. various charities and religious organizations do shelters that effectively run all winter long...the problem with this is there are long term issues for people around substance abuse and other issues that mean some..choose not to engage..not to get off the streets long term...mental health support..is offered..it needs to be engaged with when someone is clean...and sometimes the apparent MH is substance related not MH.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There was a nurse form Newcastle Hospital trust this morning on Breakfast TV who said was extremely happy with her local trust's ability in dealing with the Pandemic and very happy with public support too. She said the PPE was always well resourced and she was very happy with the response. She didn't look like a government Stooge. Just an ordinary nurse doing her job. If someone can say this woman was a stooge then I stand corrected."
Newcastle have for a long time been one of the top trusts in the country financially, they are a regional specialist centre for things as far ranging as paediatric heart surgery to tropical and infectious diseases.
They were one of the first places in the country designated as a Covid treatment centre, and Covid patients from all over the North were transferred there when we were only seeing a few cases a day.
If Newcastle did not have the necessary PPE then there really would've been something wrong. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Shame they couldn't give a few bob to stop unfortunate people being outside in the winter and freezing to death. Instead of choosing to let it happen just to make a political point.
They do.. various charities and religious organizations do shelters that effectively run all winter long...the problem with this is there are long term issues for people around substance abuse and other issues that mean some..choose not to engage..not to get off the streets long term...mental health support..is offered..it needs to be engaged with when someone is clean...and sometimes the apparent MH is substance related not MH.."
We should not need charities and religious organisations to look after people who are on the street, that is the responsibility of the government. |
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Shame they couldn't give a few bob to stop unfortunate people being outside in the winter and freezing to death. Instead of choosing to let it happen just to make a political point.
They do.. various charities and religious organizations do shelters that effectively run all winter long...the problem with this is there are long term issues for people around substance abuse and other issues that mean some..choose not to engage..not to get off the streets long term...mental health support..is offered..it needs to be engaged with when someone is clean...and sometimes the apparent MH is substance related not MH.."
Sure there are lots of issues. And those that you mention are by no means confined to the homeless. But we're talking freezing to death. IMAO It shouldn't happen. |
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Shame they couldn't give a few bob to stop unfortunate people being outside in the winter and freezing to death. Instead of choosing to let it happen just to make a political point.
They do.. various charities and religious organizations do shelters that effectively run all winter long...the problem with this is there are long term issues for people around substance abuse and other issues that mean some..choose not to engage..not to get off the streets long term...mental health support..is offered..it needs to be engaged with when someone is clean...and sometimes the apparent MH is substance related not MH..
We should not need charities and religious organisations to look after people who are on the street, that is the responsibility of the government."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?"
Clearly.
Look at the other countries doing much better, despite a larger population |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?
Clearly.
Look at the other countries doing much better, despite a larger population"
No study of age demographics and population density then? Studies
that will take years to complete.
Just a lax understanding that some of our population, cannot or will not, understand a seven word slogan? |
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It appears Boris will unveil a new logo with the words “ Stay Home “ dropped - also according to Nicola Sturgeon she only learned of this through the news and has stated Scotland will keep the Stay Home message
Good to the then UK is aligned on this |
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"It appears Boris will unveil a new logo with the words “ Stay Home “ dropped - also according to Nicola Sturgeon she only learned of this through the news and has stated Scotland will keep the Stay Home message
Good to the then UK is aligned on this"
Mark Drakeford said earlier in the week that he wanted to align Wales with England but he hadn't been told what England were doing. It all seems like they are trying to score points off each other to be honest. |
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Deputy political editor MOS on twitter:
Cabinet are RAGING. On paper they’re meant to meet later to discuss 50 page doc and virus fight. But PM has already recorded his message, sent doc to the printers and seemingly made all the decisions with the so called quad... what’s the point of even dialling in, some asking. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Expect him to say some words without saying very much...
Following the science, ha ha.. Flawed from day one..
A complete shambles from day one and it still is...
I'm back to work from this morning.. Expected to live on my savings while this bollocks continues as absolutely no help for the self employed, I can fill a form in in June and get some money in July.
No thanks..
There is plenty of help for the self-employed!
Yes, in July. And £94 per week. "
Isn't that sick pay?
If the self employed have tax returns for the previous years they are going to take an average of that and pay out 80% of it for three months.
They have brought this forward to start paying out in May and will be three months wages paid in one go |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?"
It wasn't unknown to a degree, they had an exercise of what would happen in a pandemic in 2016 |
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"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?
Clearly.
Look at the other countries doing much better, despite a larger population
No study of age demographics and population density then? Studies
that will take years to complete.
Just a lax understanding that some of our population, cannot or will not, understand a seven word slogan? "
people understam what they want to and believe what people tell them to .. consider this .. If the govt had not stripped the NHS bare there would eb no need to 'protect/save ' it .. the only reason we have lockdown is because the NHS was not good enough or robust enough to withstand a pandemic .. and that is a simple fact .
So because of that .. people are losing their businesses , out of work, and will struggle for money .. and worse stillto come with a gigantic recession on the way and huge tax increases as well no doubt
All because the governemnt did not think our NHS was worth the money it would cost to keep it in good shape .. it makes me sick frankly to see all this sacrifice people are making every day all because of 1 real truth and that truth is that your government really doesnt care! .. so thanks everyone who voted Tory you got your Brexit .. hope you think it was worth it .. genuinely can not wait to get out of the UK and will do as soon as possible .. its a shambles ! |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Commercial roofing all over the country .
Main problem is transport 2 per vehicle is not permitted.
Plus waiting on the sites we work on to sort out their 2 metre procedures up.
You need to work in pairs so its tricky.
Been on furlough since it was announced.
Hopefully the government start put pressure on sites to sort their crap out."
Better tell the police,ambulance, fire and refuse services they have at least two per vehicle as do lots of the contractors round here |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Commercial roofing all over the country .
Main problem is transport 2 per vehicle is not permitted.
Plus waiting on the sites we work on to sort out their 2 metre procedures up.
You need to work in pairs so its tricky.
Been on furlough since it was announced.
Hopefully the government start put pressure on sites to sort their crap out.
Better tell the police,ambulance, fire and refuse services they have at least two per vehicle as do lots of the contractors round here "
They are key workers, commercial roofing contractors aren’t |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"You don't expect to have a definitive answer do you? The government haven't been clear on any rules from the start of this..
Could you have done any better given the unknown?
Clearly.
Look at the other countries doing much better, despite a larger population
No study of age demographics and population density then? Studies
that will take years to complete.
Just a lax understanding that some of our population, cannot or will not, understand a seven word slogan?
people understam what they want to and believe what people tell them to .. consider this .. If the govt had not stripped the NHS bare there would eb no need to 'protect/save ' it .. the only reason we have lockdown is because the NHS was not good enough or robust enough to withstand a pandemic .. and that is a simple fact .
So because of that .. people are losing their businesses , out of work, and will struggle for money .. and worse stillto come with a gigantic recession on the way and huge tax increases as well no doubt
All because the governemnt did not think our NHS was worth the money it would cost to keep it in good shape .. it makes me sick frankly to see all this sacrifice people are making every day all because of 1 real truth and that truth is that your government really doesnt care! .. so thanks everyone who voted Tory you got your Brexit .. hope you think it was worth it .. genuinely can not wait to get out of the UK and will do as soon as possible .. its a shambles !"
So another one that says the nhs has been "stripped bare" from cuts, can you show the CUTS that have been made ? Bet you cant because every year since 2010 more money has been spent than the year before |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Commercial roofing all over the country .
Main problem is transport 2 per vehicle is not permitted.
Plus waiting on the sites we work on to sort out their 2 metre procedures up.
You need to work in pairs so its tricky.
Been on furlough since it was announced.
Hopefully the government start put pressure on sites to sort their crap out.
Better tell the police,ambulance, fire and refuse services they have at least two per vehicle as do lots of the contractors round here
They are key workers, commercial roofing contractors aren’t "
Just been informed back to work a week tomorrow. 
Anxiety levels halved. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"There you go then, return to normal as long as there are Zero cases.. Item 5
That's impossible to achieve.. So never then "
There will never be zero cases but once we reach herd immunity or get a vaccine it will rumble round just like flu, colds, rotovirus etc. etc |
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