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Do you think there will ever be a cure for covid-19
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I'm guessing that if the infection levels continue that the economic pressures and financial opportunities will help push to get a vaccine. It's a major problem and this has so far driven large numbers of teams to search for a vaccine.
The flu vaccine is very successful, reducing large volumes of infections to smaller levels. Its weakness is that flu has multiple types and versions that change their occurrence frequency. They mutate too.
HIV vaccine discovery is made harder as the virus murates a fair bit. Infection levels are suppressed by meds, reducing the pressure to get a vaccine too.
The lack of treatments for covid-19 and the huge financial impacts on the economy, will continue to drive competition to find a vaccine. No guarantee but higher likelihood. As there are already vaccine trials, I'm optimistic that we'll get one |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"We can’t cure cancer Aids or even the common cold so probably not. "
Well AIDS is the name given to the host of conditions HIV causes and the common cold is due to 100s of viruses. You can lead a fairly normal life with HIV and there have been cases of ridding the body of HIV.
As for the question, a vaccine isn't a cure per se, it's a preventative measure, and the medical community are learning so much that it won't just be medicinal help but also how to better use ventilation etc. Just remember nothing is 100% effective so if anything comes from this pandemic it'll be an increase in the number of anti-virals we have at our disposal. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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I think a vaccine will be found if there’s enough effort, I mean we can invent electric, internet and send rockets to space, design bombs to wipe out whole cities and build 150 story buildings... so I’m sure we can make something to kill a tiny bug if try hard enough.
But if not, I think we all know enough now about infection to make sure we don’t catch it or reduce the impact if we do |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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depends if the top pharmaceutical companies want to release a cure,
Pfizer
Johnson & Johnson
Gilead Sciences
depends if the wish to patent their cure or vaccine,
its not about finding a cure its about making the most profit and cash |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not a cure, a vaccine will only surprise it. Also the cure might turn out to be more damaging. It will probably send us all potty.
Ooops I mean't surpress "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No need for a "cure" it goes away by itself, you either live or die
An anti viral treatment which works on the lung infection is the most we can hope for given that a vaccine may be a long way off and seems like it will be rejected by a large number of the tin foil hat brigade anyway. |
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Nope. But we will manage it.
Sadly this means it will cut a swathe through the vulnerable until such time it can be treated effectively
I worry for people like my Father who now has to avoid life for the foreseeable.
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"Two people have been cured of AIDS. So thats a start"
Cured of HIV actually, and that was with chemotherapy to destroy the immune system due to Hodgkins Lymphoma …. they were then given a bone marrow transplant with stem cells carrying the CCR5 mutation which blocks HIV..... a wonderful achievement, but too dangerous and not at all scalable. But a step in the right direction after 40 years of the HIV pandemic..... I hope progress is a lot quicker with the Covid pandemic!! |
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over a year ago
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"We can’t cure cancer Aids or even the common cold so probably not. "
Can’t cure but there are medications out there to prevent from getting positive, and for positive to not spread it and have a normal life as they freeze the virus to levels that are undetectable in the blood!
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"No, but we will learn to live with it. Hopefully the vaccine will protect the vulnerable and be more useful than the flu vaccine "
Indeed I'm guessing "time" will be its cure
I'm guessing there will be no protect all vaccine
I'm guessing that wont even be an intention
I'm guessing first we will be brutally frightened of it
Then learn protect ourselves a little
Then to think we are protecting ourselves from it
Then the media will become bored and world death reports side lined
Then we will slowly forget to practice the measures we think protect us
And finally as the disease diffuses it will be a steady but not newsworthy contribution towards the vast annual world death toll which will be slightly less than its birth rate until X population is reached and a serious cull will occur
So all in all it will absolutely NOT be "safe" to meet ever again nor will it ever be safe for anyone to visit their vulnerable older friends, parents,grandparents
IF anyone Goes into real world then visit a "loved one" they are dicing with death
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission..... |
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission....."
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission....."
There's lots of places still functioning..and it can be Dominoes till people down the line fall ill..with asymptomatic people in the mix |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
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The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
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However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
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However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
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I can't answer that question.
I dont go shopping  |
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission....."
Good point. I wonder if they are contact tracing to find out where the new cases have caught it from. |
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
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However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
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What if its a parent with kids. You wouldn't leave children in the car for extended periods of time would you? |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
.
However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
What if its a parent with kids. You wouldn't leave children in the car for extended periods of time would you?"
I was referring to adults 
But even responsible kids can be left in cars alone. |
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
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However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
What if its a parent with kids. You wouldn't leave children in the car for extended periods of time would you?
I was referring to adults
But even responsible kids can be left in cars alone."
Yea thats a grey area in itself. |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"Search Dr Judy Mikovits and keep watching the news.. this is now under investigation by the US government."
No please don't go there. Nothing that crackpot has to say is true - https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"depends if the top pharmaceutical companies want to release a cure,
Pfizer
Johnson & Johnson
Gilead Sciences
depends if the wish to patent their cure or vaccine,
its not about finding a cure its about making the most profit and cash"
That's the right answer  |
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"Search Dr Judy Mikovits and keep watching the news.. this is now under investigation by the US government.
No please don't go there. Nothing that crackpot has to say is true - https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral"
We all have our own opinions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
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However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
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If people are "coughing" outside in a queue, they shouldn't be in the bloody queue!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Search Dr Judy Mikovits and keep watching the news.. this is now under investigation by the US government."
I watched that Last night and to be honest if you have some logic you can see the truth in them words |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
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However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
If people are "coughing" outside in a queue, they shouldn't be in the bloody queue!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"Search Dr Judy Mikovits and keep watching the news.. this is now under investigation by the US government.
No please don't go there. Nothing that crackpot has to say is true - https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
We all have our own opinions. "
That is true but not all opinions carry the same weight nor are evidence-based. And this can be easily dismissed as the body of evidence is against it. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
"
Can't comment on where you shop but all the shops I have used have signs up everywhere saying practice social distancing, arrows on the floor to create a one way system and marking on the floor at the tills to keep people apart. Sadly not all adhe to it. The social distancing needs to be practised everywhere not just waiting to get in a shop. The shops have these measures in place its up to people to use them and take responsibility for their actions |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
Glasgow/London |
" The queuing is to control numbers within the store. As long as you're not clambering and breathing over each other, I'd think you're safe. People queuing outside though will be coughing/chatting etc so the distancing helps.
.
However, why tha feck do you need 2-3 people from a household to go shopping?!?!stay tha feck in the car.
If people are "coughing" outside in a queue, they shouldn't be in the bloody queue!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
People shouldn't be shuffling through the queue trying to catch up with their partner after parking the car either, but some people are stupid |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
Can't comment on where you shop but all the shops I have used have signs up everywhere saying practice social distancing, arrows on the floor to create a one way system and marking on the floor at the tills to keep people apart. Sadly not all adhe to it. The social distancing needs to be practised everywhere not just waiting to get in a shop. The shops have these measures in place its up to people to use them and take responsibility for their actions"
It was a question she asked me .
I dont go shopping. |
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"Will there be a vaccine though "
Thay might but the bigger question is would you trust it.It is being rushed through most vaccine take years and years with lots of human trials to make sure it's safe ?
(Seen that film would war Z) |
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By *ddnMan
over a year ago
west yorkshire |
Not a silly question but what a silly place ask it? Do some research? Or are you just wanting to start an opinion poll?
How many people here has any knowlegde of viruses an viccines?
To answer your queation for my poorly informed pointof view
No did they finda cure for spanish flu? Silly boy |
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By *ddnMan
over a year ago
west yorkshire |
On second thoughts ask china.
Google "tracking down the originof the cccp virus" should answer your question better than anyone here can.and if youre actually interested in answers rather than opinions(data) look in more relevent places? CA blows |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some of the most advanced sophisticated lab's ever made, are working day and night finding a cure. If you want to see one working, just look in the mirror. The human body is a fantastic machine. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Not a silly question but what a silly place ask it? Do some research? Or are you just wanting to start an opinion poll?
How many people here has any knowlegde of viruses an viccines?
To answer your queation for my poorly informed pointof view
No did they finda cure for spanish flu? Silly boy"
This is the virus section of the forums and people can ask what they like about it here. Cheer up silly boy. |
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By *ddnMan
over a year ago
west yorkshire |
Tamiflu was made to fight bridflu and by the time it was went into manufacture was no longer needed... millions of pounds of un tested drug sat on a shelf losing value...funny how swine flu popped up just at he end of tamiflus use by date ... tamiflu was dished to masses for swine flu and it killed people just another nugget for you to consume. Living in your fake worlds built and run onlies and misconceptions being manipulated at every angle..poor souls no wonder youre asking hese kinds of questions here haha go back to sleep itll all be differant tomorrow good luck |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
Can't comment on where you shop but all the shops I have used have signs up everywhere saying practice social distancing, arrows on the floor to create a one way system and marking on the floor at the tills to keep people apart. Sadly not all adhe to it. The social distancing needs to be practised everywhere not just waiting to get in a shop. The shops have these measures in place its up to people to use them and take responsibility for their actions"
Our Morrisons don't. They queue outside then inside it's a free for all. In fact sometimes there's no queue, they just let everyone in no matter how many are inside.
No arrows, narrow aisles with people walking wherever they like. They even have open adjacent tills so the customers are back to back. The staff walk next to you, no distancing. The place is a joke. |
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By *ddnMan
over a year ago
west yorkshire |
"Not a silly question but what a silly place ask it? Do some research? Or are you just wanting to start an opinion poll?
How many people here has any knowlegde of viruses an viccines?
To answer your queation for my poorly informed pointof view
No did they finda cure for spanish flu? Silly boy
This is the virus section of the forums and people can ask what they like about it here. Cheer up silly boy. "
Thats my point why have we got a virus section? Its not a place to get answers or information!!
it just causes mis information and its more of a data mining excercise.
Im the silly boy youre correct as I am contributing to this idiocey. Cambridge anylitics 3 reality 0;)
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
Can't comment on where you shop but all the shops I have used have signs up everywhere saying practice social distancing, arrows on the floor to create a one way system and marking on the floor at the tills to keep people apart. Sadly not all adhe to it. The social distancing needs to be practised everywhere not just waiting to get in a shop. The shops have these measures in place its up to people to use them and take responsibility for their actions
It was a question she asked me .
I dont go shopping."
Your granddaughter asked a very good question. Hats off to her |
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By *ddnMan
over a year ago
west yorkshire |
"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
Can't comment on where you shop but all the shops I have used have signs up everywhere saying practice social distancing, arrows on the floor to create a one way system and marking on the floor at the tills to keep people apart. Sadly not all adhe to it. The social distancing needs to be practised everywhere not just waiting to get in a shop. The shops have these measures in place its up to people to use them and take responsibility for their actions
It was a question she asked me .
I dont go shopping.
Your granddaughter asked a very good question. Hats off to her"
Answer to the question is because no one knows what theyre doing and no one really cares if they did they would nt be going shopping at he usual times. I shop late at night so I dont have to que but for so many they dont want to make changes
Tomorrow borrus will announce that halfthe counrty wil be able to go out again the the rest have to stay on lockdown |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"I find it strange that despite lockdown for 6 weeks, there are still so so many new cases every day.
Is it that supermarkets are a breeding ground, or that there is an unknown form of transmission.....
My granddaughter said to me yesterday.
Why do people queue outside morrisons but when you go inside there are loads of people next to each other.
I never had an answer for her.
Can't comment on where you shop but all the shops I have used have signs up everywhere saying practice social distancing, arrows on the floor to create a one way system and marking on the floor at the tills to keep people apart. Sadly not all adhe to it. The social distancing needs to be practised everywhere not just waiting to get in a shop. The shops have these measures in place its up to people to use them and take responsibility for their actions
Our Morrisons don't. They queue outside then inside it's a free for all. In fact sometimes there's no queue, they just let everyone in no matter how many are inside.
No arrows, narrow aisles with people walking wherever they like. They even have open adjacent tills so the customers are back to back. The staff walk next to you, no distancing. The place is a joke. "
That does indeed sound like a joke of a shop. Maybe use an alternative shop if available. If they loose business over it they might change but don't hold your breath |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Not a silly question but what a silly place ask it? Do some research? Or are you just wanting to start an opinion poll?
How many people here has any knowlegde of viruses an viccines?
To answer your queation for my poorly informed pointof view
No did they finda cure for spanish flu? Silly boy
This is the virus section of the forums and people can ask what they like about it here. Cheer up silly boy.
Thats my point why have we got a virus section? Its not a place to get answers or information!!
it just causes mis information and its more of a data mining excercise.
Im the silly boy youre correct as I am contributing to this idiocey. Cambridge anylitics 3 reality 0;)
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I guess fab introduced the virus forum because it was all people were chatting about in the other forums before this one came along.
I think it's a good idea because whether this is a place to get information or not, people are going to talk about it because it is affecting all of our lives.
Chatting with people in these forums is what helps me get through lockdown. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well do you?
NO, you can't cure a Virus. Only bacterial infection, which is why there is no cure for the common cold. "
A few vaccines I can think of...
Cholera
Dengue
Diptheria
Hep A, B, E
Hib
HPV
Multiple flu's
Measles
Meninggococcal Menengitis
Mumps
Polio
Rabies
Rotavirus
Rubella
Typhoid
Varicella
Yellow Fever
A good mix there off the top of my head! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Will there be a vaccine though
Thay might but the bigger question is would you trust it.It is being rushed through most vaccine take years and years with lots of human trials to make sure it's safe ?
(Seen that film would war Z)"
Human trials already under way in many countries...including UK. |
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"Well do you?
NO, you can't cure a Virus. Only bacterial infection, which is why there is no cure for the common cold.
A few vaccines I can think of...
Cholera
Dengue
Diptheria
Hep A, B, E
Hib
HPV
Multiple flu's
Measles
Meninggococcal Menengitis
Mumps
Polio
Rabies
Rotavirus
Rubella
Typhoid
Varicella
Yellow Fever
A good mix there off the top of my head!"
They are vaccines.
They have only ever got rid of one virus and that was smallpox. |
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"Well do you?
NO, you can't cure a Virus. Only bacterial infection, which is why there is no cure for the common cold.
A few vaccines I can think of...
Cholera
Dengue
Diptheria
Hep A, B, E
Hib
HPV
Multiple flu's
Measles
Meninggococcal Menengitis
Mumps
Polio
Rabies
Rotavirus
Rubella
Typhoid
Varicella
Yellow Fever
A good mix there off the top of my head!
They are vaccines.
They have only ever got rid of one virus and that was smallpox."
I'd suggest the above is a very small number vs the total virus population
Second let's be blunt
This virus IS "SARS"
You know the nasty fucker from a decade back the one that they have been trying to develop but not succeed
SARS2 will be forgotten and ignored before a preventing agent is found
I fear at best a placebo to pretend and calm the geni
I fear at worst a gamble
It will be interesting to see how many vocal hardliners soften their view in 3 5 years when the risk is the same but they need to live the life they have preserved
But this is SARS it will kill it wont be going anywhere |
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"Not a silly question but what a silly place ask it? Do some research? Or are you just wanting to start an opinion poll?
How many people here has any knowlegde of viruses an viccines?
To answer your queation for my poorly informed pointof view
No did they finda cure for spanish flu? Silly boy
This is the virus section of the forums and people can ask what they like about it here. Cheer up silly boy.
Thats my point why have we got a virus section? Its not a place to get answers or information!!
it just causes mis information and its more of a data mining excercise.
Im the silly boy youre correct as I am contributing to this idiocey. Cambridge anylitics 3 reality 0;)
I guess fab introduced the virus forum because it was all people were chatting about in the other forums before this one came along.
I think it's a good idea because whether this is a place to get information or not, people are going to talk about it because it is affecting all of our lives.
Chatting with people in these forums is what helps me get through lockdown. "
Wise words though I would be careful with the information given and the links posted. They seem to come from many sources and they only quote the ones that agree with their position. Any that don't they dismiss.
An example is one of the treads a guy said channel 4 had been banned from the daily briefing. When asked about it he said its true he saw it on the European. Luckily others said well just seen it and channel 4 were present and asking questions. He did finally admit he got it wrong but just goes to show people are so quick to make claims just because they see it on an dilettante supports there stance |
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"depends if the top pharmaceutical companies want to release a cure,
Pfizer
Johnson & Johnson
Gilead Sciences
depends if the wish to patent their cure or vaccine,
its not about finding a cure its about making the most profit and cash
That's the right answer "
Well they have to turn a profit or they will not exist. It takes 10's of billions pounds/dollars for R&D
Gilead Science have got their anti iral remdesivir approved for use. They are giving millions of vials treatment away!! |
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