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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No it hasn't, the reason it got so bad is due to people's ignorance to it with the "it won't happen to me" attitude...
We are fully aware that the corona viruses are particularly virulent and to treat it with contempt has been a mistake; SARs, MERs, H5n1 were just a warning shot, this one is the real deal... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there"
Not entirely true
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252553/Swedish-expert-says-coronavirus-lockdown-not-saved-lives.html |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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Flu should be over-hyped, it kills a lot of people every year - but we have a vaccine. (if you choose to have it).
Dementia and Alzheimer's kills a lot of people (1 in 8 !!) every year and is way under-hyped. Almost not noticed by the general population.
We have no vaccine for COVID 19 so yes it needs all-the-hype that we can give it.
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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This guy, head of IT at ITV - he thought he was fine, next day he was dead.
It’s a killer, it’s virulent and unpredictable.
https://twitter.com/marketing___man/status/1254729511230464002?s=21
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"Flu should be over-hyped, it kills a lot of people every year - but we have a vaccine. (if you choose to have it).
Dementia and Alzheimer's kills a lot of people (1 in 8 !!) every year and is way under-hyped. Almost not noticed by the general population.
We have no vaccine for COVID 19 so yes it needs all-the-hype that we can give it.
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It’s not just that, Covid is so much more infectious and we have not even a partial immunity to it.
Flus are similar so we are able to resist them better. This is novel to your immune system and spreads far more easily.
I’ve got high risk parents and I’m desperately trying to keep them safe. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Cars are overhyped , thousands are killed in road accidents but you never hear any official figures published "
There were 27,820 killed or seriously injured casualties (KSIs) in reported road traffic accidents reported to the police, for the year ending June 2019. This compares to 26,724 in the year ending June 2018. The total number of casualties decreased by 5% to 157,630.
You can find them on ONS or Asset Publishing  |
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I genuinely from the percentage its affecting think yes it has... but still abiding by the rules and they were made by people that have access to more information and have advice from people actually qualified |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Cars are overhyped , thousands are killed in road accidents but you never hear any official figures published "
I read on ONS there are less than 2000 a year road deaths / year |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Cars are overhyped , thousands are killed in road accidents but you never hear any official figures published
I read on ONS there are less than 2000 a year road deaths / year "
Over 1 Million last year world wide. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Binary question ..... has cv-19 been over-hyped?"
2 of my sisters had it one wound up in hospital.
My 2nd cousin died from it in hospital
No I don’t think so |
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No. Its casualty rate varies, depending on the quality or not of government action and public perception is shaped by the media.
If something is so infectious that it could infect millions of people within a year, without controls, is that something that's over-hyped? Something that is going to be the cause of the biggest recession in a century?
Or would you prefer it to be a little story, with limited attention and advice on how to avoid it? |
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"Binary question ..... has cv-19 been over-hyped?"
No
Come on smell the coffee I thought everyone now understood it !
1/2million potential in UK and if it mutated a lot more potentially ?
The latest reports on the children disease could be a very worrying mutation ? |
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"Cars are overhyped , thousands are killed in road accidents but you never hear any official figures published
I read on ONS there are less than 2000 a year road deaths / year
Over 1 Million last year world wide. "
So in the UK its 1800 / year against Covid 20000 + in a few weeks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It may seem that way because most countries have introduced lock down measures to help prevent the spread. Had that not been the case then we would probably be looking at millions dead around the world.
Also don't forget that it's still here, and won't be going away anytime soon. We're still at the beginning of this crisis, and because lockdown can't last indefinitely and we have no other way of preventing infection, we are bound to see many more people succumb to it before this is all over.
(I borrowed lots of other people's words. Sorry people.) |
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I feel that the risk of death has been over hyped by the media ... it very much feels, due to the way the concentration of the media is on the deaths there’s a feel to it that getting covid-19 means you will die ... where the odds in the most case are very much not that it is the minority of people that get the virus that die. The figures being used can also be further diluted as they really only show the death rate of those that end up in hospital or have had a test for the virus. To this extent I believe there is a level of over hype. |
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"No it hasn't, the reason it got so bad is due to people's ignorance to it with the "it won't happen to me" attitude...
We are fully aware that the corona viruses are particularly virulent and to treat it with contempt has been a mistake; SARs, MERs, H5n1 were just a warning shot, this one is the real deal..."
H5n1 sounds more like a flue virus, which would mean it wasn't a corona virus.
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Generally no it's not been overhyped but, with a death rate of around 1%, the actual danger of death has been. However, left unchecked, a 1% death rate here in the UK would actually mean about 500,000 people dying.
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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It’s not a binary question, boomers still run things in the west , it’s a disease that affects boomers in the west , but it’s just another disease , there’s already plenty that kill much much higher numbers of children and no one cares.
11 million children die each year (30,000 per day) from mostly preventable illness . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there"
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you. |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you."
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
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still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths "
Looks like its getting worse over there though? |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths
Looks like its getting worse over there though?"
there curve is on a similar downward spiral to ours when I was looking yesterday |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths "
Still 2,274 more people dead than otherwise would have been absent Covid-19. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
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You should really watch Pandemic,it's nothing to do with conspiracy. It's about how this was always going to happen. |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths
Looks like its getting worse over there though? there curve is on a similar downward spiral to ours when I was looking yesterday "
I dont know..was just reading a piece in the guardian where it was saying they were enforcing stricter lockdown measures..but I think it was from a few days ago. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths "
They would have had less casualties if they had introduced the lockdown earlier like their neighbours did. |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
You should really watch Pandemic,it's nothing to do with conspiracy. It's about how this was always going to happen."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No
Not in the slightest.
The world we lived in is not what we will go back to straight away.
Lives have been changed forever because of this.
Ways of working in and out of hospitals have changed for the long term.
Covid wards will continue.
PPE will continue in every department
Social distancing in the community will continue.
This will not go away after lockdown ends. The disease has not disappeared.
Mutations will occur and worryingly we could be seeing one in children now.
It is still unsure whether having the virus means that you are immune from it.
Viruses are absolute fuckers, especially new ones.
Vaccines will be found, eventually.
Antibody testing will be found useful, eventually.
I do wonder what people are focusing on to think that it has been overhyped.
I would love someone to tell me.
Until eventually, as a health worker I ask people to look at this differently. Whilst you might think that its overhyped and wanting your ‘normal back’. When you rush back into meets and gangbangs and parties down the pub I’m still scared to hug my family because I don’t want to give it to them.
My ‘normal’ will Not return until vaccine or antibody testing is accurate or we have a R0 of 0.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Over-Hyped
* Regionally yes
* Nationally no
* Globally under-hyped
It has exposed just how ill-prepared we are as a species and a country to deal with "plagues". We all learned at school of the black death, and whilst the mode of transmission different and the mortality rate much higher, the idea that an infection can so rapidly spread through a population has been known for 100s of years and yet we are only now learning how to put in plans to limit transmission and effectively control a spread.....
Oh well... it'll be in text books for the next 100 years.
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By *ebwizMan
over a year ago
Clevedon |
No, we have been very lucky in the south West, but its particularly rural so people are more spread out. We lost family member to it in Midlands in just a few days after being diagnosed. I have little idea what is ahead of us all, but think it will be different for some time. Can see places like London with population density, with travel etc being a headache to get organized. |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
You should really watch Pandemic,it's nothing to do with conspiracy. It's about how this was always going to happen.
I will pass thanks. "
You may learn something rather than stay in ignorance about the subject. Very interesting and informative |
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"The only reason the world is in this mess is that the W H O under hyped it If you dont think it is a priblem wait till it mutates
Like a Ninja Turtle  "
Think you watch too much fiction .. this is happening it's real life , last time I checked Ninja Turtles are fiction lol |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
You should really watch Pandemic,it's nothing to do with conspiracy. It's about how this was always going to happen.
I will pass thanks.
You may learn something rather than stay in ignorance about the subject. Very interesting and informative "
Why the attack? So everyone is ignorant because the don't want watch a TV documentary.
I'm well aware of whats going as is most of the people on here.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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"The only reason the world is in this mess is that the W H O under hyped it If you dont think it is a priblem wait till it mutates
Like a Ninja Turtle
Think you watch too much fiction .. this is happening it's real life , last time I checked Ninja Turtles are fiction lol"
Lol you bite easily don't you |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there
Really? I think there are 2,274 who might disagree with you.
They have been hit worse than denmark,Norway and Finland are belatedly locking down.
still less per million than many other places and their death figures include their care home deaths
They would have had less casualties if they had introduced the lockdown earlier like their neighbours did. "
we wont know that till years down the line. What they are saying is that it was pointless to lockdown fully as it would damage the economy and that a lockdown would stop infections for a time but when you opened it up, new infections would occur . So till years later we wont know what was the right action to take. As it will be total deaths after lockdowns have occured or not that will matter...
No one knows and that is the truth of it. And lockdown and social distancing is only going to be adered to for a certain amount of time.
This week places have been just as busy as before lock down.. locally apart from the queues you would have thought it was lifted |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
You should really watch Pandemic,it's nothing to do with conspiracy. It's about how this was always going to happen.
I will pass thanks.
You may learn something rather than stay in ignorance about the subject. Very interesting and informative
Why the attack? So everyone is ignorant because the don't want watch a TV documentary.
I'm well aware of whats going as is most of the people on here.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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But when an opinion is totally Ill informed lacking any clear rationale, incorrect( I could go on ) you will get a reaction but maybe that's all you are looking for ? |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
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It's just embarrassing
OMG I suppose another internet conspiracy person lol.
Also while you are at it man didn't land on the moon |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
You should really watch Pandemic,it's nothing to do with conspiracy. It's about how this was always going to happen.
I will pass thanks.
You may learn something rather than stay in ignorance about the subject. Very interesting and informative
Why the attack? So everyone is ignorant because the don't want watch a TV documentary.
I'm well aware of whats going as is most of the people on here.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
But when an opinion is totally Ill informed lacking any clear rationale, incorrect( I could go on ) you will get a reaction but maybe that's all you are looking for ?"
And why do you assume its totally ill informed, lacking any clear rationale and incorrect?
Myself and others on this post have said yes.
Are you another one that can't take someone disagreeing with your own opinion. |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
It's just embarrassing
OMG I suppose another internet conspiracy person lol.
Also while you are at it man didn't land on the moon "
Was that comment directed at me regarding the conspiracy theory's? |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
It's just embarrassing
OMG I suppose another internet conspiracy person lol.
Also while you are at it man didn't land on the moon
Was that comment directed at me regarding the conspiracy theory's?"
Yes as 5G masts have absolutely nothing to do with this Pandemic or this thread it was a really daft thing to link the two  |
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By *ebwizMan
over a year ago
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The lock down was so if you did end up at hospital they would have a bed rather than say sorry, go home and die. It has worked in the sense we had the capacity to treat the sick, but over time they say we may all get it, hopefully in a milder form as some have. Still quieter than usual where we are, which is a good thing. |
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"The lock down was so if you did end up at hospital they would have a bed rather than say sorry, go home and die. It has worked in the sense we had the capacity to treat the sick, but over time they say we may all get it, hopefully in a milder form as some have. Still quieter than usual where we are, which is a good thing. "
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"By the way it's a
NO
I think what worries me is the total lack of understanding of some at a time we are all reliant on each other doing the right thing  "
I don't believe in conspiracy theory's.
The original comment was in response to having to watch a Netflix programme to get the facts.
You state a total lack of understanding. Based on what?
Because I replied the original post with yes.
I'm currently doing the right thing and following the current guidelines.
Whats the problem because I said yes? |
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"I'm going for yes.
Try watching the Netflix new program Pandemic it may enable you to understand a little better ?
Lol here we go. What next 5G masts
It's just embarrassing
OMG I suppose another internet conspiracy person lol.
Also while you are at it man didn't land on the moon
Was that comment directed at me regarding the conspiracy theory's?
Yes as 5G masts have absolutely nothing to do with this Pandemic or this thread it was a really daft thing to link the two "
You don't need to PM me.
Thats just a bit pedantic. |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there"
really? Sweden's mortality rate from covid19 is ten times higher than Finland, four times higher than Norway and twice as high as Denmark. |
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"Take a look at the graph Chris Giles from the FT has just posted on twitter. If you look at that and then say this is over-hyped then quite simply - you haven't understood the data. "
Exactly
NO NO NO |
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"Take a look at the graph Chris Giles from the FT has just posted on twitter. If you look at that and then say this is over-hyped then quite simply - you haven't understood the data. "
Is this the graph from the Office for National Statistics? |
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test. "
It shows a comparison of deaths from all causes over a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 deaths. That upward curve is horrifying.
It also shows influenza and pneumonia as a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 figures. That is also overlaid with a line showing Covid-19 deaths. |
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I hope this doesn't break forum rules:
https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1255056329275834370/photo/1
This is not propaganda or opinion. These are official govenment figures that have been updated this morning. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test. "
That would be pointless as care home deaths have not often been tested , those tested in hospitals only have an estimated 70% accuracy. The inadequate and accuracy of testing unfortunately is another aspect of this. |
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
It shows a comparison of deaths from all causes over a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 deaths. That upward curve is horrifying.
It also shows influenza and pneumonia as a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 figures. That is also overlaid with a line showing Covid-19 deaths."
I agree but it still doesn't give an accurate number of deaths directly from COVID 19.
The rapid rise is accumulated deaths during the COVID 19 breakout.
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
That would be pointless as care home deaths have not often been tested , those tested in hospitals only have an estimated 70% accuracy. The inadequate and accuracy of testing unfortunately is another aspect of this. "
Exactly so how can the graph be an accurate representation of correct amount of deaths due to covid.
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
It shows a comparison of deaths from all causes over a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 deaths. That upward curve is horrifying.
It also shows influenza and pneumonia as a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 figures. That is also overlaid with a line showing Covid-19 deaths.
I agree but it still doesn't give an accurate number of deaths directly from COVID 19.
The rapid rise is accumulated deaths during the COVID 19 breakout.
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Yes it does, that's the red line at the bottom of the graph laid over the blue lines of flu & pneumonia. |
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
It shows a comparison of deaths from all causes over a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 deaths. That upward curve is horrifying.
It also shows influenza and pneumonia as a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 figures. That is also overlaid with a line showing Covid-19 deaths.
I agree but it still doesn't give an accurate number of deaths directly from COVID 19.
The rapid rise is accumulated deaths during the COVID 19 breakout.
Yes it does, that's the red line at the bottom of the graph laid over the blue lines of flu & pneumonia."
The figures are also only up to week ending April 17th so the graph is not just scary, it's also already 10 days out of date so the current reality is a LOT worse. |
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
It shows a comparison of deaths from all causes over a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 deaths. That upward curve is horrifying.
It also shows influenza and pneumonia as a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 figures. That is also overlaid with a line showing Covid-19 deaths.
I agree but it still doesn't give an accurate number of deaths directly from COVID 19.
The rapid rise is accumulated deaths during the COVID 19 breakout.
Yes it does, that's the red line at the bottom of the graph laid over the blue lines of flu & pneumonia."
Can you send the link again you maybe right I didn't notice the red line so I haven't scrolled down.
I can't find the graph on his feed only his latest post.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
That would be pointless as care home deaths have not often been tested , those tested in hospitals only have an estimated 70% accuracy. The inadequate and accuracy of testing unfortunately is another aspect of this.
Exactly so how can the graph be an accurate representation of correct amount of deaths due to covid.
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If you think about it can only be worse than what is reported...
E.g. those tested positive plus 30 % |
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
It shows a comparison of deaths from all causes over a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 deaths. That upward curve is horrifying.
It also shows influenza and pneumonia as a 5 year average with an overlay of 2020 figures. That is also overlaid with a line showing Covid-19 deaths.
I agree but it still doesn't give an accurate number of deaths directly from COVID 19.
The rapid rise is accumulated deaths during the COVID 19 breakout.
Yes it does, that's the red line at the bottom of the graph laid over the blue lines of flu & pneumonia.
The figures are also only up to week ending April 17th so the graph is not just scary, it's also already 10 days out of date so the current reality is a LOT worse."
Found it. Your right I was wrong.
From week 12 shows an slow increase until week 13 where it climbs rapidly to what I assume is 9000 average. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No.
The biggest killer prior in the UK was heart disease. That took out approx 40,000 a year.
This has took out over 20,000 in 2 months.
Imagine if we had not gone into lockdown.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The data on the graph only shows the accumulated amount of deaths.
It doesn't show how many have died from COVID 19 directly following a positive test.
That would be pointless as care home deaths have not often been tested , those tested in hospitals only have an estimated 70% accuracy. The inadequate and accuracy of testing unfortunately is another aspect of this.
Exactly so how can the graph be an accurate representation of correct amount of deaths due to covid.
If you think about it can only be worse than what is reported...
E.g. those tested positive plus 30 %"
Or 50% higher if you include care homes
So definitely a NO |
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It's not possible to get accurate figures with:
1. lack of testing
2. False negatives
This means the figures we are seeing are an underestimate. My cousin passed away 3 weeks ago from what was obviously Covid but no mention of it on his Death Certificate |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on there"
So, you're suggesting that if we didn't have the UK lockdown nobody would be dying?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on therereally? Sweden's mortality rate from covid19 is ten times higher than Finland, four times higher than Norway and twice as high as Denmark."
In addition England has a 10 fold more population density than Sweden .
I assume the Australian outback also doesnt need the same level of lockdown? |
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"yes definitely
the response is absolutely insane
Sweden hasn't locked down and nothing abnormal is going on therereally? Sweden's mortality rate from covid19 is ten times higher than Finland, four times higher than Norway and twice as high as Denmark.
In addition England has a 10 fold more population density than Sweden .
I assume the Australian outback also doesnt need the same level of lockdown?"
I'm off to antarctica, see you when it's all over. |
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"It's not possible to get accurate figures with:
1. lack of testing
2. False negatives
This means the figures we are seeing are an underestimate. My cousin passed away 3 weeks ago from what was obviously Covid but no mention of it on his Death Certificate "
No disrespect but how was it obvious. People don't die from Covid most seem to have breathing difficulty but also can be caused by "normal" flu |
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When ever will everyone wake up to the fact that apart from those who die it is not about death
It is far more than that I for one would refuse to treat any one who acted like a twat - thankfully I am not in healthcare to have to choose |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No I don't think it has, but the media do keep repeating the same information, which may give the impression it has been but they do that with everything, could be a by product of how slowly we are moving through the crisis coupled with learning and release of findings/information about the virus and government's next move.
It's a very upsetting sad time. |
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"Binary question ..... has cv-19 been over-hyped?"
Just thought it interesting to share the 'perhaps 'preliminary' results of our little poll with everyone. The scores on the doors are:
Total = 145 posts
2 posts from me (the OP)
27 posts for Yes (over-hyped)
50 for No (not over-hyped)
66 did not answer the question (either by posting on an abstract theme or frankly getting their knickers in a twist with other post contributors)
Clearly at the moment the take away thought is 35% are saying cv-19 has been over-hyped and 65% are not. It will certainly be interesting to poll again in say 4 weeks time.
Thank you for contributing |
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"When ever will everyone wake up to the fact that apart from those who die it is not about death
It is far more than that I for one would refuse to treat any one who acted like a twat - thankfully I am not in healthcare to have to choose"
Yes !! Well put .. it's the health care workers putting them selves on the line for both the twats and the more intelligent |
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"It's not possible to get accurate figures with:
1. lack of testing
2. False negatives
This means the figures we are seeing are an underestimate. My cousin passed away 3 weeks ago from what was obviously Covid but no mention of it on his Death Certificate
No disrespect but how was it obvious. People don't die from Covid most seem to have breathing difficulty but also can be caused by "normal" flu"
She was in a nursing home with flu like symptoms ( with the flu season basically over ) with the 2 nurses tested positive, it was really obvious but it was put down as temporary failure with no doctor ever examining. |
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No it hasn’t been overhyped.
The Government were to blase to start with, distracted by Brexit and not taking it seriously. As a consequence more people have died than should have.
This is a dangerous disease, more should have been done to get PPE for NHS staff and Care Homes. More should have been done for anyone that has to regularly interact with the public.
The Government haven’t listened to ‘the science’, they have made political decisions and allowed too many people to die. |
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"It's not possible to get accurate figures with:
1. lack of testing
2. False negatives
This means the figures we are seeing are an underestimate. My cousin passed away 3 weeks ago from what was obviously Covid but no mention of it on his Death Certificate
No disrespect but how was it obvious. People don't die from Covid most seem to have breathing difficulty but also can be caused by "normal" flu
She was in a nursing home with flu like symptoms ( with the flu season basically over ) with the 2 nurses tested positive, it was really obvious but it was put down as temporary failure with no doctor ever examining. "
So sorry to hear that was that supposed to say respiratory failure ? |
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By *edfleetMan
over a year ago
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The consequence of the virus isn’t over hyped. Come and see people literally drowning as their lungs fail.
The fear people are living with isn’t over hyped as lots of people are very fearful of catching the virus.
I think there are lots of people over hyping. People claiming to have had the virus; the pain the media is generating; the blame of doing too little/ too much/ the wrong thing.
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Virus over hyped ? No
Over analysed ? Fuck yes
I am sick to death of the media trying to explain stuff they don't understand
Currently watching some shit on bbc news about whether we have antibodies and whether we will have immunity for about the hundredth time this week
We all know the fucking theory.
Covid 19 hasn't been around long enough to know if we have immunity
Oh I give up ...
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"Remember that without lockdown and social distancing most of us wouldn't be alive today!"
I think you are over egging the pudding a little there. Given the case fatality rate is less than 1% most of us have nothing to worry about. If you are under 60 and of healthy weight, you are probably more likely to be run over by a bus than die from cv19. |
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"Remember that without lockdown and social distancing most of us wouldn't be alive today!
I think you are over egging the pudding a little there. Given the case fatality rate is less than 1% most of us have nothing to worry about. If you are under 60 and of healthy weight, you are probably more likely to be run over by a bus than die from cv19."
Yeah this pretty much backs up my point above ... the chances of most members of the population dieing from this is low ... but the media has hyped the chances of dieing to the point that some people think of you get the virus your going to die. This fear is driving a lot of people’s reactions to a lot of the news. |
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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
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"No
Not in the slightest.
The world we lived in is not what we will go back to straight away.
Lives have been changed forever because of this.
Ways of working in and out of hospitals have changed for the long term.
Covid wards will continue.
PPE will continue in every department
Social distancing in the community will continue.
This will not go away after lockdown ends. The disease has not disappeared.
Mutations will occur and worryingly we could be seeing one in children now.
It is still unsure whether having the virus means that you are immune from it.
Viruses are absolute fuckers, especially new ones.
Vaccines will be found, eventually.
Antibody testing will be found useful, eventually.
I do wonder what people are focusing on to think that it has been overhyped.
I would love someone to tell me.
Until eventually, as a health worker I ask people to look at this differently. Whilst you might think that its overhyped and wanting your ‘normal back’. When you rush back into meets and gangbangs and parties down the pub I’m still scared to hug my family because I don’t want to give it to them.
My ‘normal’ will Not return until vaccine or antibody testing is accurate or we have a R0 of 0.
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Great post, 100% agree, our sentiments exactly! |
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Yes, massively.
40,000 people in the UK die every year (many more suffering years of ill health) because of air pollution. Not a single vehicle has been locked down from our towns and cities anywhere.
Are they lesser deaths?
Source: Royal College of Physicians report 2016 |
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