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Is djokovic doing the right thing?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think he does that and I am with djokovic on this and I agree with what he is saying "Personally I am opposed to vaccination and I wouldnt want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine in order to be able to travel" You shouldnt be forced to do something you dont stand for. I think that the tennis federation will let it go cos they dont want to lose a big player like him |
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If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel. |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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I am forced to take off my shoes, put all my liquids into polythene bags, have my bag X-Rayed. I don’t want to do these things but I do so so I can travel.
I expect to hear a lot more anti vaxers having a tantrum now that their 5G conspiracies have been debunked
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It will be interesting to see how countries will treat travel when things open up
Some might insist on a doctor's certificate (I think Thailand already are), airlines might be required to test people, temperature tests possibly. |
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"I think he does that and I am with djokovic on this and I agree with what he is saying "Personally I am opposed to vaccination and I wouldnt want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine in order to be able to travel" You shouldnt be forced to do something you dont stand for. I think that the tennis federation will let it go cos they dont want to lose a big player like him "
If you don't get vaccinated you are liable to carry and spread the virus.
Anti vaxxers are anti science. They're allowed to believe anything they wish. But like the person above says, they don't need to be given some special dispensation. |
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Health is not always an individual choice.
Typhoid Mary was isolated for the benefit of others in one of the worlds most free societies.
Mentally ill people are locked up for their own and others protection.
In countries where you need health insurance you will not get cover without a vaccination.
In a free society the I don't expect compulsory vaccination, but their will be consequences for that choice. |
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel. "
Would you extend that to a data chip ? |
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"Op that's fine, diffence being he can travel by his own private jet to the various tournaments to play, you on the other hand will not have that choice..
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Doesn't matter if jet is private or not. Still have to go through customs/entry requirements. If he chooses not to meet the entry requirements he doesnt get in.
His choice....their choice...simples! |
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?"
What a silly argument. A data chip for tracking and vaccines are two separate things totally.
It’s like complaining that because Boots allow a guide dog in, why aren’t you allowed to take in your pet tiger? |
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"Op that's fine, diffence being he can travel by his own private jet to the various tournaments to play, you on the other hand will not have that choice..
Doesn't matter if jet is private or not. Still have to go through customs/entry requirements. If he chooses not to meet the entry requirements he doesnt get in.
His choice....their choice...simples!"
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
What a silly argument. A data chip for tracking and vaccines are two separate things totally.
It’s like complaining that because Boots allow a guide dog in, why aren’t you allowed to take in your pet tiger?"
It's not an argument
I advocate vaccines
You said by not complying to a rule you miss out on benefits I agree
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
What a silly argument. A data chip for tracking and vaccines are two separate things totally.
It’s like complaining that because Boots allow a guide dog in, why aren’t you allowed to take in your pet tiger?
It's not an argument
I advocate vaccines
You said by not complying to a rule you miss out on benefits I agree
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
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If you wear a tin foil hat it will interfere with your data chip. |
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over a year ago
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question. "
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question. "
It's a tangent
Now you may or may not be aware of the very real concept of a nano bot vaccine
Ahhh
Bear in mind all of this vaccine stuff is speculative
There isn't one for cov-sars2
Not sure we can comment on should and shouldn't as there is no fucking data is there
So 10 years time indeed a vaccination for SARS COV-SARS2 and influenza
Its nanobots
Or you cant travel
Yes or no
Without data about a vaccine how it's made what it does
How can I decide if I want to risk benefit?.?
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club."
Same reason large corps pay billions for your Google data
I absolutely do not think they are being injected
I absolutely do reason that controllable nano tech will be used in medicine
Currently speculated as magic bullet for cancer and heart opps clean up but viruses are a perfect target too for intelligent??? Killers ??
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We have to relinquish rights, to favour the common good, frequently. I'm not generally in favour of forced medical treatment against someone's wishes. He can keep himself without the vaccination but must accept the limitations that this may impose on him. Generally people who are against all vaccines are misguided and also take the benefits of herd immunity, where the majority of others have had them. They are potentially putting others at risk though, as some are unable to have the vaccinations and need herd immunity to stay safe.
He'd be better to look at the evidence and make his decision from that, rather than showing an obstinacy that's probably linked to his ego. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Same reason large corps pay billions for your Google data
I absolutely do not think they are being injected
I absolutely do reason that controllable nano tech will be used in medicine
Currently speculated as magic bullet for cancer and heart opps clean up but viruses are a perfect target too for intelligent??? Killers ??
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I have no knowledge about the tech that's available or potentially being developed.
But I would question a conspiracy suggesting that we're being injected with nanobots without our consent (I know that you're not suggesting it, but some people are). Especially if, as you point out, the info is already available via Google.
As for the question you posed. I would take an injection of those things to cure some life threatening illness, if they have had successful medical trials. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club."
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Same reason large corps pay billions for your Google data
I absolutely do not think they are being injected
I absolutely do reason that controllable nano tech will be used in medicine
Currently speculated as magic bullet for cancer and heart opps clean up but viruses are a perfect target too for intelligent??? Killers ??
" Yes and I also heard that bill gates have patent on most of the vaccines and we know what he is after if he could control the whole vaccine program. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
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This is complete nonsense.
I don't even know where to start.
Anyway the technology to do this "stuff" doesn't exist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
This is complete nonsense.
I don't even know where to start.
Anyway the technology to do this "stuff" doesn't exist."
It may well be nonsense.
However the patent does exsist and it is for cryptocurrency using body activity data.
And the patent number may well be coincidance.
I'll just wait and see how all this pans out.
How do you know what tech does and does not exsist out of curiosity?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
This is complete nonsense.
I don't even know where to start.
Anyway the technology to do this "stuff" doesn't exist.
It may well be nonsense.
However the patent does exsist and it is for cryptocurrency using body activity data.
And the patent number may well be coincidance.
I'll just wait and see how all this pans out.
How do you know what tech does and does not exsist out of curiosity?
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Usual shit where people get 2+2=5.
WO actually stands for World Intellectual Property Organization. Not world order. Secondly, these mega intelligent people wanting to keep something quite assign it the number 060606, just so as we can scare the Christians (I class myself as Christian. I’m not quaking but the way).
Thirdly, there is no mention of it being part of a vaccine, placed in the body or using 5g.
Fuck me. Lots of people think I’m nuts for believing in a God. Even I don’t believe this shit!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
This is complete nonsense.
I don't even know where to start.
Anyway the technology to do this "stuff" doesn't exist.
It may well be nonsense.
However the patent does exsist and it is for cryptocurrency using body activity data.
And the patent number may well be coincidance.
I'll just wait and see how all this pans out.
How do you know what tech does and does not exsist out of curiosity?
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That patent, if true, could be for anything. Doesn't describe the conspiracies currently doing the rounds.
I can't imagine Bill, or anyone gets to choose their patent number.
This isn't evidence of anything. |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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This is the issue with the generations of today. They/we never grew up in a world where simple pathogens were killers, so have no memory of not being at risk from TB, polio, measles etc.
His wife recently shared a 5g covid post and was slapped down by IG so it's little wonder he's of this disposition. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Having just looked...out of curiosity....between guffaws of laughter at some of these posts we found that the smallest nanobot, capable of moving untethered is 0.2mm. It does, however, require a special floor with electrodes implanted in it....hardly practical to mix in with a vaccine? |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
This is complete nonsense.
I don't even know where to start.
Anyway the technology to do this "stuff" doesn't exist.
It may well be nonsense.
However the patent does exsist and it is for cryptocurrency using body activity data.
And the patent number may well be coincidance.
I'll just wait and see how all this pans out.
How do you know what tech does and does not exsist out of curiosity?
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The patent has nothing to do with data-collecting nano implants. The nano-magic does not exist and it is basically sci-fi. If it existed I would know because of my job, we are many many years behind that. Of course this could be an alien technology developed in secret in the Area 51, in that case I woundn't know about it. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
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Please note this ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT MY DIRECTION |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Aliens live amongst us disguised as people, no one would even know. The Post Office employs most of them. Fortunately there is a secret organisation keeping tabs on them and protecting us all.
They only wear black suits and you will never remember anything should you encounter something because they zap you with a flashy light thing to wipe your memory.
Its real people. Some scary shit really. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?"
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
" You do know that patent numbers are allocated sequentially by the patent office don't you? Probably not, but think about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing. "
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical. "
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine. |
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine. "
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk."
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then. "
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society. |
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over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then. "
But nobody is forcing anybody. However if there are things you’re not willing to do for the common good, then you might have restrictions. It’s a bit like saying you want to be able to drive on the public roads but not sit a driving test. |
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
But nobody is forcing anybody. However if there are things you’re not willing to do for the common good, then you might have restrictions. It’s a bit like saying you want to be able to drive on the public roads but not sit a driving test. "
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine. "
There is no way you would be forced to accept a vaccine
There is no way an airline would be forced to carry you no way a country would be forced to allow you in and possibly even no way public transport would be forced to allow you to travel
We all have a choice |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
But nobody is forcing anybody. However if there are things you’re not willing to do for the common good, then you might have restrictions. It’s a bit like saying you want to be able to drive on the public roads but not sit a driving test. "
Again that's my choice. Didn't say I wouldn't abide by any restrictions did I? |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
There is no way you would be forced to accept a vaccine
There is no way an airline would be forced to carry you no way a country would be forced to allow you in and possibly even no way public transport would be forced to allow you to travel
We all have a choice" |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society."
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
"
JFC! What a load of shite. You can make anything add up to the answer you want if you work backwards from the "solution". And just so you know 666 isn't even the number of the beast, it's 616. Don't believe me? Look it up. Disclaimer: I do not believe in all that shite, just get your misinformation correct!
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't. "
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian. |
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over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
But nobody is forcing anybody. However if there are things you’re not willing to do for the common good, then you might have restrictions. It’s a bit like saying you want to be able to drive on the public roads but not sit a driving test.
Again that's my choice. Didn't say I wouldn't abide by any restrictions did I? "
But that’s the crux of the post isn’t it? The unspellable tennis player wants to travel but not take the vaccine.
I have no problem with someone refusing what goes in their body. It’s uk to them to live with the consequences. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian." |
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over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian."
I don’t. Just enough to mitigate reasonable risk.
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
I don’t. Just enough to mitigate reasonable risk.
You almost sound as though you want to punish them. "
I want them to not be a threat to herd immunity, for the anti vax movement to die, and to live safely. I have close relatives who can't get vaccinated for anything anymore.
Herd immunity is all of our responsibility, and the harsher penalties are, the more people will get vaccinated. |
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian. "
Those who don't take appropriate measures for public health are parasites on those who do and a risk to society. |
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over a year ago
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
"
666 as the number of the has been debunked for a while, I believe its 616 when correctly transcribed. |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
"
You do have a habit of finding this conspiracy bollocks yet then claim your not a conspiracy theorist..
Here's another theory, idiots making shit up on the Internet have led some fuckwits to set fire to certain infrastructure..
Stop it eh.. |
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"He's doing what's right for him if he refuses.
I think we should all be thinking very carefully about what we're being asked to do "for our own good".
"
Vaccines have saved literally millions of lives across human history. It's one thing to be sceptical of what our leaders are up to, quite another to indulge in conspiracy theories about a proven medical treatment.
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
You do have a habit of finding this conspiracy bollocks yet then claim your not a conspiracy theorist..
Here's another theory, idiots making shit up on the Internet have led some fuckwits to set fire to certain infrastructure..
Stop it eh.. "
Please tell me what i have "made up"
Are you saying that patent WO2020060606 doesnt exsist?
Oh it exsists alright if you wasnt too lazy to go and type that into search.
If you wasn't reffering to that then please do tell me what I've made up?
The part where i said about one possible scenerio?
Well i never once stated that as fact did i?
I gave an opinion on a possible scenerio.
Sorry if you felt offended by that.
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"He's doing what's right for him if he refuses.
I think we should all be thinking very carefully about what we're being asked to do "for our own good".
Vaccines have saved literally millions of lives across human history. It's one thing to be sceptical of what our leaders are up to, quite another to indulge in conspiracy theories about a proven medical treatment.
"
Note above where I'm an advocate for vaccines
I'm also an advocate of be wary of what I'm told by a government is for the good
I'm also not sure I want to be vaccinated if I've had the virus
Can we be clear at this moment
This debate is academic
There is no vaccine
I know how current vaccines work I'm happy and trust the science
I do not know the implications of a vaccination not yet available
Perhaps I would want to avoid all humans than have a particular vaccine? Perhaps is the word
I understand and advocate science yet I'm fully aware it's not perfect and has been known to merge with politics
I might suggest some drugs used to treat some conditions are not always effective
I'll re iterate
I'm an advocate of current vaccines and vaccination
This does not mean I would not consider the implications of a new one
And I am always uneasy when choice is removed
That's uneasy not against or disagree
I totally agree with vaccination
I totally agree with vaccination
However for "health reasons"
Some remove the forskin from a child
I'd feel uneasy if philosophical questions regarding necessity were not mooted
Maybe cov-sars2 absolutely needs a mandatory vaccine
Maybe after its course has run it does not
To my understanding that's an unknown
Thus I'll stick with cautious advocation thanks x |
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Those who don't take appropriate measures for public health are parasites on those who do and a risk to society."
Parasites?? Wow! So body autonomy means nothing to you then? No longer is your body your own? |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
You do have a habit of finding this conspiracy bollocks yet then claim your not a conspiracy theorist..
Here's another theory, idiots making shit up on the Internet have led some fuckwits to set fire to certain infrastructure..
Stop it eh..
Please tell me what i have "made up"
Are you saying that patent WO2020060606 doesnt exsist?
Oh it exsists alright if you wasnt too lazy to go and type that into search.
If you wasn't reffering to that then please do tell me what I've made up?
The part where i said about one possible scenerio?
Well i never once stated that as fact did i?
I gave an opinion on a possible scenerio.
Sorry if you felt offended by that.
" Let's do this again. The number of the patent is coincidence, nothing more - that's why you have to manipulate it (by taking out inconvenient zeroes) to make it the number you want it to be.
The patent isn't about nano technology, or about non consensual tracking of individuals. It's about novel ways of mining crypto currency - not leats because current crypto mining is hugely inefficient in terms of energy.
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Those who don't take appropriate measures for public health are parasites on those who do and a risk to society."
Bit strong. People with allergies to eggs which are used for the vaccines are parasites by your reckoning then. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"If he doesn’t want to take a vaccination, that’s fine. Up to him. However, don’t then moan because he’s not allowed to avail himself of some of the benefits of society, such as travel.
Would you extend that to a data chip ?
Because that's the way this is heading. It's already being used in America and India, just 2 examples. So on that basis I'd be refusing.
You would refuse a vaccine in the uk because America and India have implanted data chips?
Logical.
I have no wish to be forced to have a vaccine or a chip thanks. If I choose to, then fine.
I have no wish to be put at risk by someone who won't do their bit for society. Or for my vulnerable friends and relatives, some who can't be vaccinated, to be put at risk.
That is also your choice. Glad we agree that choices are allowed then.
This isn't a matter of personal choice only. This is a matter of societal responsibility. Your "choice" to be a disease vector could kill people. As a society we can and do choose to exclude people from sections of society and public services if they refuse to abide by law, norms, etc, without reasonable excuse.
I can and will be writing to my MP to argue for strict exclusion for anyone refusing a vaccine that NICE accepts (without medical exemption).
Don't want a jab? Don't endanger society.
Your choice is to have the jab then fine, go ahead. If I'm restricted by not having it, then that's also fine. I accept that. Never said I wouldn't.
Fair enough. I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Those who don't take appropriate measures for public health are parasites on those who do and a risk to society.
Parasites?? Wow! So body autonomy means nothing to you then? No longer is your body your own? "
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Are those people who think vaccines should be compulsory prepared to accept there would need to be a massive overhaul of the vaccine damage fund first?
Some people who were damaged by the swine flu vaccine in 2009 only got their compensation (and keep in mind the fact that the vaccine caused narcolepsy in some was a known and hidden issue) in the last few months. It took a decade of fighting for it. |
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Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
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"I think he does that and I am with djokovic on this and I agree with what he is saying "Personally I am opposed to vaccination and I wouldnt want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine in order to be able to travel" You shouldnt be forced to do something you dont stand for. I think that the tennis federation will let it go cos they dont want to lose a big player like him "
So if any country says he cannot enter because he has not had the relevant vacations he will not be able to play |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
You do have a habit of finding this conspiracy bollocks yet then claim your not a conspiracy theorist..
Here's another theory, idiots making shit up on the Internet have led some fuckwits to set fire to certain infrastructure..
Stop it eh..
Please tell me what i have "made up"
Are you saying that patent WO2020060606 doesnt exsist?
Oh it exsists alright if you wasnt too lazy to go and type that into search.
If you wasn't reffering to that then please do tell me what I've made up?
The part where i said about one possible scenerio?
Well i never once stated that as fact did i?
I gave an opinion on a possible scenerio.
Sorry if you felt offended by that.
Let's do this again. The number of the patent is coincidence, nothing more"
Very true, the number of the patent is totally coincidence.
There's some really crazy tin hatted conspriracists saying the 060606 was specially chosen.
Of course this is totally fake, the number of the patent is coincidence, a random six digit number that just happened to be 060606 at odds of one in a million |
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"When have you ever had to have a data chip when you have a vaccine? totally irreverent question.
The current conspiracy is nano-data chips that are mixed in with the vaccine.
No idea why anyone would want to inject nano data chips, even if there was such a thing.
Bill Gates, of all people, is being accused of this by the tinfoil hat club.
Microsoft filed a new patent on 26th of march for *cryptocurrency system using body activity data*
The patent is WO/2020/060606 (google it)
That patent number alone probably scared the crap out of conspiracy theorists and hundreds of millions of christians.
WO - world order
2020 - this year
060606 - 666 mark of the beast.
Even if your non christian why would you file a patent with that number knowing millions of christians that read bibles are told that near the end times they will be asked to bear the mark of the beast whos number will be 666.
I'm sure it wasnt for shits and giggles.
Heres a possible scenario.
a 2nd more severe wave will hit us, the worlds economy will be hit harder and unrecoverable.
Mandatory vaccines are introduced (containing this WO2020060606 cryptocurrency using body activity data) were a new cashless society is introduced and digital currency which is why all the 5g during lock downs have been getting installed everywhere because it will need super fast speeds for the collecting and sending data to interact with what ever it is we have injected/implanted into us.
Conspiracy theory for sure, but that doesn't deny the fact that this patent exsists and was filed less than a month ago.
You do have a habit of finding this conspiracy bollocks yet then claim your not a conspiracy theorist..
Here's another theory, idiots making shit up on the Internet have led some fuckwits to set fire to certain infrastructure..
Stop it eh..
Please tell me what i have "made up"
Are you saying that patent WO2020060606 doesnt exsist?
Oh it exsists alright if you wasnt too lazy to go and type that into search.
If you wasn't reffering to that then please do tell me what I've made up?
The part where i said about one possible scenerio?
Well i never once stated that as fact did i?
I gave an opinion on a possible scenerio.
Sorry if you felt offended by that.
Let's do this again. The number of the patent is coincidence, nothing more
Very true, the number of the patent is totally coincidence.
There's some really crazy tin hatted conspriracists saying the 060606 was specially chosen.
Of course this is totally fake, the number of the patent is coincidence, a random six digit number that just happened to be 060606 at odds of one in a million "
You made this post 7 minutes ago.
It'll take me one minute to write this.
7 minus one is 6.
If you put three sixes in a row you get.
666. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
"
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny. |
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny. "
So you don't think vaccinations for small pox should have been compulsory? We should have just let it carry on spreading. |
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
"
And they should be refused access to oxygen.
These crazy anti vaxxers going against the advice of the world's most qualified and successful vaccine doctor, gates. |
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Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny. "
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated. "
Yes. Again it's called choice. I'm not arguing with that at all. You make yours, I'll make mine. All I'm saying is that we shouldn't have our choices removed as it makes a mockery of those who fought for our freedom. Simple. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
And they should be refused access to oxygen.
These crazy anti vaxxers going against the advice of the world's most qualified and successful vaccine doctor, gates."
It would seem some are almost rabid about removing any freedom of speech or choice as the only 'correct' way of doing things is theirs alone. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"I oppose being forced to take any vaccine.
I want to make my own informed choice and decision for my self and my children to vaccinate or not.
It's not to be taken lightly EITHER way.
"
Thankyou, this was my point exactly. Both myself and my children have been vaccinated so far, but it was our choice to do so after finding out all the facts. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Could they force you to have the vaccine?"
Apparantly a few people on here seem to think so. I don't see how they can though, unless they do restrict access to a lot of things in a really draconian way. I wouldn't be surprised if they link it to passports or a chip of some kind. Who knows? I guess we will have to wait and find out. |
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"Could they force you to have the vaccine?
Apparantly a few people on here seem to think so. I don't see how they can though, unless they do restrict access to a lot of things in a really draconian way. I wouldn't be surprised if they link it to passports or a chip of some kind. Who knows? I guess we will have to wait and find out. "
Can imagine that being quite impractical tbh. |
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated. "
But if you’ve had the vaccine, why would mixing with those who haven’t be a problem? I’ll have the vaccine and I’ll happily mix. Why wouldn’t I?
Let’s look at the thought of various private companies not providing services to those who haven’t been vaccinated. Are you sure you want your local cinema looking at your medical history? And if you want to deprive those without the vaccine of having hospital treatment, then the same should go for smokers, drinkers and the fat. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Could they force you to have the vaccine?
Apparantly a few people on here seem to think so. I don't see how they can though, unless they do restrict access to a lot of things in a really draconian way. I wouldn't be surprised if they link it to passports or a chip of some kind. Who knows? I guess we will have to wait and find out.
Can imagine that being quite impractical tbh."
Yup, but that was just my thinking out loud really. The minimum would be having to have some kind of medical record or certificate, I guess. Again, thinking out loud lol. |
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated.
But if you’ve had the vaccine, why would mixing with those who haven’t be a problem? I’ll have the vaccine and I’ll happily mix. Why wouldn’t I?
Let’s look at the thought of various private companies not providing services to those who haven’t been vaccinated. Are you sure you want your local cinema looking at your medical history? And if you want to deprive those without the vaccine of having hospital treatment, then the same should go for smokers, drinkers and the fat. "
Good examples,smokers,drinkers and overweight people.
You have freedom of choice to smoke but no one else is forced to allow you to smoke in their premises.
We're free to drink if we like but there are plenty of things we can't do after a drinkie or two.
We're all free to eat as much as we like but no one has to provide us with extra wide seats.
If you demand the freedom to refuse vaccination, isn't everyone else entitled to the freedom to exclude you? |
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Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated.
But if you’ve had the vaccine, why would mixing with those who haven’t be a problem? I’ll have the vaccine and I’ll happily mix. Why wouldn’t I?
Let’s look at the thought of various private companies not providing services to those who haven’t been vaccinated. Are you sure you want your local cinema looking at your medical history? And if you want to deprive those without the vaccine of having hospital treatment, then the same should go for smokers, drinkers and the fat. "
They already do
Try getting a knee replacement if you're fat
Try getting any operations if you smoke or drink heavily |
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Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated.
But if you’ve had the vaccine, why would mixing with those who haven’t be a problem? I’ll have the vaccine and I’ll happily mix. Why wouldn’t I?
Let’s look at the thought of various private companies not providing services to those who haven’t been vaccinated. Are you sure you want your local cinema looking at your medical history? And if you want to deprive those without the vaccine of having hospital treatment, then the same should go for smokers, drinkers and the fat.
They already do
Try getting a knee replacement if you're fat
Try getting any operations if you smoke or drink heavily"
I think they can refuse certain ops if they have told you to stop smoking and you carry on? |
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"I oppose being forced to take any vaccine.
I want to make my own informed choice and decision for my self and my children to vaccinate or not.
It's not to be taken lightly EITHER way.
"
Allowing people to refuse medical treatments, and preventative treatmentd for their children is a tricky business. There is a web of fine lines to navigate. |
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"I oppose being forced to take any vaccine.
I want to make my own informed choice and decision for my self and my children to vaccinate or not.
It's not to be taken lightly EITHER way.
Allowing people to refuse medical treatments, and preventative treatmentd for their children is a tricky business. There is a web of fine lines to navigate."
Yeah there has been a few cases with jehovas witnesses in the past. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"I think he does that and I am with djokovic on this and I agree with what he is saying "Personally I am opposed to vaccination and I wouldnt want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine in order to be able to travel" You shouldnt be forced to do something you dont stand for. I think that the tennis federation will let it go cos they dont want to lose a big player like him "
If society educates people properly then there will only be a small number of people who do not understand the consequences to themselves and society compared to the vanishingly small risk.
Bear in mind that most vaccines are or are not given to children with parental consent. How dare they impose their view on someone who cannot make a decision, but then what if their child catches it and passes it on to someone unable to have a vaccination?
Who has the greater right to not get the disease?
As someone pointed out in this thread, we are two generations away from understanding a world in which there are highly contagious diseases that kill swathes of the population.
COVID-19 isn't even as bad as Polio or Cholera.
It's unbelievable that as a society we now seem to be seeking out stupidity
As for the nanobot crap, who cares? You can be traced with your credit card, phone or face recognition far more easily than with a nanobot. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated.
But if you’ve had the vaccine, why would mixing with those who haven’t be a problem? I’ll have the vaccine and I’ll happily mix. Why wouldn’t I?
Let’s look at the thought of various private companies not providing services to those who haven’t been vaccinated. Are you sure you want your local cinema looking at your medical history? And if you want to deprive those without the vaccine of having hospital treatment, then the same should go for smokers, drinkers and the fat.
Good examples,smokers,drinkers and overweight people.
You have freedom of choice to smoke but no one else is forced to allow you to smoke in their premises.
We're free to drink if we like but there are plenty of things we can't do after a drinkie or two.
We're all free to eat as much as we like but no one has to provide us with extra wide seats.
If you demand the freedom to refuse vaccination, isn't everyone else entitled to the freedom to exclude you?"
You aren't speaking on behalf of 'everyone else' though are you? I still like to believe we live in a democratic country, not a dictatorship. Anyway, if you are vaccinated then what's your problem as you should then have immunity? |
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" I hope any restrictions on vaccine refusers are incredibly Draconian.
Possibly including being refused access to pubs,restaurants, theatres,cinemas,libraries, public transport, shops,supermarkets.
Possibly being refused access to your place of employment in the same way that many employers test for drugs and alcohol.
Possibly including being shunned and ostracized by just about anyone and everyone in your life.
Yup, it's called freedom of choice. I don't disagree with vaccines but I do disagree with compulsory vaccination on the grounds of losing my freedom to choose whether or not to do something for myself. It's a slippery slope, it won't end with compulsory vaccinations either. Extreme attitudes like yours make me wonder why my grandparents bothered to fight in WW2 to preserve our freedom from tyranny.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing and we should all be grateful for it. That freedom also extends to my freedom of choice to not mix with people who may be carrying an infectious disease.It also extends to various service providers to have the freedom of choice about not providing their services to people who haven't been vaccinated.
But if you’ve had the vaccine, why would mixing with those who haven’t be a problem? I’ll have the vaccine and I’ll happily mix. Why wouldn’t I?
Let’s look at the thought of various private companies not providing services to those who haven’t been vaccinated. Are you sure you want your local cinema looking at your medical history? And if you want to deprive those without the vaccine of having hospital treatment, then the same should go for smokers, drinkers and the fat.
They already do
Try getting a knee replacement if you're fat
Try getting any operations if you smoke or drink heavily"
I've had 2 knee replacements and I'm fat. My weight has never been mentioned by anyone.
Btw i had a serious injury to both knees (at the same time) which caused me to need knee replacements. |
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