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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Firstly, this is purely a thread on health and fitness. Anyone wanting to politicise it can go elsewhere. There are enough threads for that.
We have been told the UK could be one of the worst affected countries in Europe. Could a factor in this be our general health? The virus is more severe on those with underlying health conditions, we all know that.
But I recently read that those without underlying health issues becoming critically ill or dying are usually overweight. This implies a higher percentage of those people do not exercise reguarly.
We are often told we are one of the fattest and unfit countries in Europe. Could this be coming home to roost in the worst of ways for some? |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
south west , continental |
"Firstly, this is purely a thread on health and fitness. Anyone wanting to politicise it can go elsewhere. There are enough threads for that.
We have been told the UK could be one of the worst affected countries in Europe. Could a factor in this be our general health? The virus is more severe on those with underlying health conditions, we all know that.
But I recently read that those without underlying health issues becoming critically ill or dying are usually overweight. This implies a higher percentage of those people do not exercise reguarly.
We are often told we are one of the fattest and unfit countries in Europe. Could this be coming home to roost in the worst of ways for some?"
Why not always a good idea to look after your health, make informed decisions about what you eat. What you put into your bodies.
From a personal perspective I'm not a health fanatic, but I know what's good for me and what's not. I ditched the Mcdeaths around 7 years ago. I cook my own fish and chips occasionally, that's good enough for me as a treat. I even cut right down on beer to almost zero, ditched white wine in favour of a few glasses of red. I have more alcohol free days than not, I can go weeks without a glass. I have never smoked so that's probably a big bonus, I don't mind smokers though as long as its not in my face, that's their choice.
I feel much better now than I did in my forties. It was easy too, just little lifestyle changes, little tweeks, and of course you see the benefits. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"It’s possible. But Scotland would be a lot harder hit. "
Scotland isn't as densely populated as England though.
Some studies also suggest that vitamin D is effective in combating the virus. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Firstly, this is purely a thread on health and fitness. Anyone wanting to politicise it can go elsewhere. There are enough threads for that.
We have been told the UK could be one of the worst affected countries in Europe. Could a factor in this be our general health? The virus is more severe on those with underlying health conditions, we all know that.
But I recently read that those without underlying health issues becoming critically ill or dying are usually overweight. This implies a higher percentage of those people do not exercise reguarly.
We are often told we are one of the fattest and unfit countries in Europe. Could this be coming home to roost in the worst of ways for some?"
Obesity is or should be an underlying issue. I know those of a 40 BMI (morbidly obese) is considered a vulnerable person re covid 19. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Firstly, this is purely a thread on health and fitness. Anyone wanting to politicise it can go elsewhere. There are enough threads for that.
We have been told the UK could be one of the worst affected countries in Europe. Could a factor in this be our general health? The virus is more severe on those with underlying health conditions, we all know that.
But I recently read that those without underlying health issues becoming critically ill or dying are usually overweight. This implies a higher percentage of those people do not exercise reguarly.
We are often told we are one of the fattest and unfit countries in Europe. Could this be coming home to roost in the worst of ways for some?
Why not always a good idea to look after your health, make informed decisions about what you eat. What you put into your bodies.
From a personal perspective I'm not a health fanatic, but I know what's good for me and what's not. I ditched the Mcdeaths around 7 years ago. I cook my own fish and chips occasionally, that's good enough for me as a treat. I even cut right down on beer to almost zero, ditched white wine in favour of a few glasses of red. I have more alcohol free days than not, I can go weeks without a glass. I have never smoked so that's probably a big bonus, I don't mind smokers though as long as its not in my face, that's their choice.
I feel much better now than I did in my forties. It was easy too, just little lifestyle changes, little tweeks, and of course you see the benefits. "
What is easy for some isn't for others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s possible. But Scotland would be a lot harder hit.
Scotland isn't as densely populated as England though.
Some studies also suggest that vitamin D is effective in combating the virus."
It has its role in the immune system. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"In general we are one of the unhealthiest countries in Europe so we will have one of the highest death rates "
Thanks, summed up what I was asking far quicker and simpler  |
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The only reason that it is being stated that the uk may have the highest casualty rate in europe is because we have allowed the highest infection rate. It's perfectly simple. There is a percentage of people who die when they get covid-19, between 1 and 4 percent depending on the availability of health care, age demographic, underlying health demographic. In countries that made early steps to minimise infection in every way they could - testing, tracing, quarantine of infected individuals and their contacts, effective social distancing - it is still between 1 and 4 %, but that is 1 to 4% of not a lot of people. In countries that ignored the warnings, didn't bother with preparations, or even made the criminal decision to promote the spread of the virus, it is still only 1 to 4%, but 1 to 4% of a shit load of people.
Mass exposure of population = high number of deaths. It's as simple as that. |
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Many things affect physical and psychological health. We live in a country with very dangerously high levels of pollution - especially airborne pollution - which could be expected to impair our lungs and physical health. We have high stress levels, people work long hours, have increased levels of work and housing insecurity and many facets of life that aren't contributors to good wellbeing.
It's not a great recipe for healthy resilience. |
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By *arbellsWoman
over a year ago
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"Firstly, this is purely a thread on health and fitness. Anyone wanting to politicise it can go elsewhere. There are enough threads for that.
We have been told the UK could be one of the worst affected countries in Europe. Could a factor in this be our general health? The virus is more severe on those with underlying health conditions, we all know that.
But I recently read that those without underlying health issues becoming critically ill or dying are usually overweight. This implies a higher percentage of those people do not exercise reguarly.
We are often told we are one of the fattest and unfit countries in Europe. Could this be coming home to roost in the worst of ways for some?"
People arent just overweight because of the lack of exercise mate. I would hazard a guess and say its more likely down to excess calories and diet/food choices.
Yeah a sediatary lifestyle and lack of exercise can impact on a person's weight of course.
You can't out train a bad diet! |
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Only an observation but I'm sure I heard on the news that doctors had found lying patients on their fronts was a big improvement in the treatment of victims to help them breathe & recover. Common sense says to me if your badly over weight particularly guys with big bellies, you physically can't do that as well as the health problems that go with it. I dunno but just my take on it. |
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The science is unclear on many of these suggestions/assumptions.
But it is known that we have amongst the fattest and inactive populations in the world.
And that this causes multi health complications.
We also know that this virus has a more damaging effect on persons with other health issues.
These two facts alone, means that our country will be badly affected as we are forced to acquire any herd immunity. |
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