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over a year ago
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"Evidence shows that it's natural. Pisting yet more conspiracy theories helps nobody, at a time of great distress for many "
Saying it was made in a lab makes people feel better. If it was made in a lab, then humans are ultimately in control. If it's natural, they feel powerless. |
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"Evidence shows that it's natural. Pisting yet more conspiracy theories helps nobody, at a time of great distress for many
Saying it was made in a lab makes people feel better. If it was made in a lab, then humans are ultimately in control. If it's natural, they feel powerless."
I'm happy because I'm more valuable to the lizard people alive, than dead |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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nature 100%. she give us a bloody nose every now and then.but as we have short memorys we tend to forget quick.so when sonething like covid comes along peeps tend to lose there shit a bit.like everything else that gets thrown at us we will either find a cure or learn to live with it |
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By *etsome OP Man
over a year ago
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"nature 100%. she give us a bloody nose every now and then.but as we have short memorys we tend to forget quick.so when sonething like covid comes along peeps tend to lose there shit a bit.like everything else that gets thrown at us we will either find a cure or learn to live with it"
there are reports saying the lab had very lax safety protocols |
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"nature 100%. she give us a bloody nose every now and then.but as we have short memorys we tend to forget quick.so when sonething like covid comes along peeps tend to lose there shit a bit.like everything else that gets thrown at us we will either find a cure or learn to live with it
there are reports saying the lab had very lax safety protocols"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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if it originated in china then of course they should be held accountable for it, this has affected the whole world its not about money or businesses its about people and their health, if you eat shit it will eventually bite you in the arse, i hope world governments hit them where it hurts, this is an outrageous travesty and shows what humans can achieve when things go wrong and this is my only comment regarding it, throw the book at them |
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By *xxx30Man
over a year ago
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"if it originated in china then of course they should be held accountable for it, this has affected the whole world its not about money or businesses its about people and their health, if you eat shit it will eventually bite you in the arse, i hope world governments hit them where it hurts, this is an outrageous travesty and shows what humans can achieve when things go wrong and this is my only comment regarding it, throw the book at them "
Well do you think it’s wierd that when they where commuting human rights abuse’s in hongkong this virus pops up out of a wet market, the same it did with sars
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"if it originated in china then of course they should be held accountable for it, this has affected the whole world its not about money or businesses its about people and their health, if you eat shit it will eventually bite you in the arse, i hope world governments hit them where it hurts, this is an outrageous travesty and shows what humans can achieve when things go wrong and this is my only comment regarding it, throw the book at them
Well do you think it’s wierd that when they where commuting human rights abuse’s in hongkong this virus pops up out of a wet market, the same it did with sars
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i do its not right any of it and although we are making comment on it here and we are all in every country suffering the result of it and the negativity it has created, it shows you how fragile life is in the hands of the wrong people, i hope world governments take them to task and I'm sure they will |
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By *xxx30Man
over a year ago
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"if it originated in china then of course they should be held accountable for it, this has affected the whole world its not about money or businesses its about people and their health, if you eat shit it will eventually bite you in the arse, i hope world governments hit them where it hurts, this is an outrageous travesty and shows what humans can achieve when things go wrong and this is my only comment regarding it, throw the book at them
Well do you think it’s wierd that when they where commuting human rights abuse’s in hongkong this virus pops up out of a wet market, the same it did with sars
i do its not right any of it and although we are making comment on it here and we are all in every country suffering the result of it and the negativity it has created, it shows you how fragile life is in the hands of the wrong people, i hope world governments take them to task and I'm sure they will "
They’ll be an inquiring, but it’ll be the Americans or the Russians bidding on how much they’ll buy the gene patern for |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"if it originated in china then of course they should be held accountable for it, this has affected the whole world its not about money or businesses its about people and their health, if you eat shit it will eventually bite you in the arse, i hope world governments hit them where it hurts, this is an outrageous travesty and shows what humans can achieve when things go wrong and this is my only comment regarding it, throw the book at them
Well do you think it’s wierd that when they where commuting human rights abuse’s in hongkong this virus pops up out of a wet market, the same it did with sars
i do its not right any of it and although we are making comment on it here and we are all in every country suffering the result of it and the negativity it has created, it shows you how fragile life is in the hands of the wrong people, i hope world governments take them to task and I'm sure they will
They’ll be an inquiring, but it’ll be the Americans or the Russians bidding on how much they’ll buy the gene patern for "
The genetic pattern of this virus is already posted on the internet so that scientists all over the world can work on a cure, of course big pharmaceutical companies are more interested in finding a drug that controls and limits the symptoms of the disease.
If you create a vaccine you can only bill them once, with a symptom reducing drug you can bill them again and again and again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sars h1n1, h7n9 , all originating in the same manner bit wierd "
Surely that makes sense, it would be more weird (and worrying) if these similar strains all originated under different circumstances. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sars h1n1, h7n9 , all originating in the same manner bit wierd "
What is wierd about totally shit animal welfare and hygene? Where dozens of sick animals kept on same stall as cured meat, fresh meat and god knows what else and then it generates germs, bugs n viruses? It's a total dead cert to happen repeatedly.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Evidence shows that it's natural. Pisting yet more conspiracy theories helps nobody, at a time of great distress for many
Saying it was made in a lab makes people feel better. If it was made in a lab, then humans are ultimately in control. If it's natural, they feel powerless."
But then they want to punish. As it is, no one can punish the bat and pangolin... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"if it originated in china then of course they should be held accountable for it, this has affected the whole world its not about money or businesses its about people and their health, if you eat shit it will eventually bite you in the arse, i hope world governments hit them where it hurts, this is an outrageous travesty and shows what humans can achieve when things go wrong and this is my only comment regarding it, throw the book at them
Well do you think it’s wierd that when they where commuting human rights abuse’s in hongkong this virus pops up out of a wet market, the same it did with sars
i do its not right any of it and although we are making comment on it here and we are all in every country suffering the result of it and the negativity it has created, it shows you how fragile life is in the hands of the wrong people, i hope world governments take them to task and I'm sure they will "
You surprise me |
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"Evidence shows that it's natural. Pisting yet more conspiracy theories helps nobody, at a time of great distress for many
Saying it was made in a lab makes people feel better. If it was made in a lab, then humans are ultimately in control. If it's natural, they feel powerless.
But then they want to punish. As it is, no one can punish the bat and pangolin... "
Bats and pangolins wouldn't ordinary be sharing a room though. Bats live in caves and pangolins live up mountains. The people who put them together can certainly be blamed. |
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Lab and released on purpose. H
China was losing grip on hong kong and trade war with USA.
All of a sudden. Virus happened, hong kong protests end and usa economy will crash.
Meanwhile in China, they have allegedly contained virus while the rest of the world burns. |
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"Lab and released on purpose. H
China was losing grip on hong kong and trade war with USA.
All of a sudden. Virus happened, hong kong protests end and usa economy will crash.
Meanwhile in China, they have allegedly contained virus while the rest of the world burns."
But they let their good friends Taiwan know so they wouldn't be too badly effected and burn with the west  |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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The risk that bats have posed to humans is nothing new, it was no accident that bats are part of vampire myth.(batshit crazy) Bats are a massive reservoir of viruses that at dangerous to humans, including but not limited to rabies, SARS, MERS and ebola. In many senses that are virus interchanges for different species. Humans have a substantial genetic overlap with bats so thats where our weakness to them comes from. |
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By *pmsldCouple
over a year ago
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I would say it's a natural virus mutation. Could china have found it and been studying it in a lab which led to an accidental infection? Possible. Either way I doubt it's an intentional attack. The risk wouldnt be worth a boost to the economy. I can imagine the chinese lock down to be far more serious than what we have in place so it's not surprising they would have better results. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Evidence shows that it's natural. Pisting yet more conspiracy theories helps nobody, at a time of great distress for many
Saying it was made in a lab makes people feel better. If it was made in a lab, then humans are ultimately in control. If it's natural, they feel powerless.
But then they want to punish. As it is, no one can punish the bat and pangolin...
Bats and pangolins wouldn't ordinary be sharing a room though. Bats live in caves and pangolins live up mountains. The people who put them together can certainly be blamed. "
So next time there's a new strain of flu, you're going to blame farmers who keep pigs and chickens? "Bats and pangolins" only sounds weird and ominous to us because they're not familiar to us. |
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"Evidence shows that it's natural. Pisting yet more conspiracy theories helps nobody, at a time of great distress for many
Saying it was made in a lab makes people feel better. If it was made in a lab, then humans are ultimately in control. If it's natural, they feel powerless.
But then they want to punish. As it is, no one can punish the bat and pangolin...
Bats and pangolins wouldn't ordinary be sharing a room though. Bats live in caves and pangolins live up mountains. The people who put them together can certainly be blamed.
So next time there's a new strain of flu, you're going to blame farmers who keep pigs and chickens? "Bats and pangolins" only sounds weird and ominous to us because they're not familiar to us."
Do you really not understand the logical problem with what you just wrote? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And of course it wouldnt be at all surprising if the chinese death toll was higher, they just keep the real figure quiet to save face."
If they barricaded people in their homes they would have starved to death. So not recorded as Covid. Or not yet found.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Scientists tasked with finding a vaccine have been quoted in medical journals saying that upon examination of the d n a sequence a spike or marker has been identified which proves 100 percent that this was laboratory created and most likely reverse engineered from other known viruses .camel flu ,sars etc.THere is an absense of the marker which would have proved it jumped from animal to human . And just to correct a post above , aids came about when people consumed contaminated bush meat , which led to animal to human transmission of the virus , it was not a case of humans ass fucking monkeys ..as you so eloquently put it ?? |
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"Scientists tasked with finding a vaccine have been quoted in medical journals saying that upon examination of the d n a sequence a spike or marker has been identified which proves 100 percent that this was laboratory created and most likely reverse engineered from other known viruses .camel flu ,sars etc.THere is an absense of the marker which would have proved it jumped from animal to human . And just to correct a post above , aids came about when people consumed contaminated bush meat , which led to animal to human transmission of the virus , it was not a case of humans ass fucking monkeys ..as you so eloquently put it ??"
Source it.
BTW as I understand it, they'd be studying the RNA. |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
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"Scientists tasked with finding a vaccine have been quoted in medical journals saying that upon examination of the d n a sequence a spike or marker has been identified which proves 100 percent that this was laboratory created and most likely reverse engineered from other known viruses .camel flu ,sars etc.THere is an absense of the marker which would have proved it jumped from animal to human . And just to correct a post above , aids came about when people consumed contaminated bush meat , which led to animal to human transmission of the virus , it was not a case of humans ass fucking monkeys ..as you so eloquently put it ??"
 interesting post there, would you be able to supply some info on where I can read these medical articles, thanks |
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"Scientists tasked with finding a vaccine have been quoted in medical journals saying that upon examination of the d n a sequence a spike or marker has been identified which proves 100 percent that this was laboratory created and most likely reverse engineered from other known viruses .camel flu ,sars etc.THere is an absense of the marker which would have proved it jumped from animal to human . And just to correct a post above , aids came about when people consumed contaminated bush meat , which led to animal to human transmission of the virus , it was not a case of humans ass fucking monkeys ..as you so eloquently put it ??"
hhmmmm. scientists quoted huh. yet a peer reviewed scientific paper concludes that its not man made. |
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"Lab and released on purpose. H
China was losing grip on hong kong and trade war with USA.
All of a sudden. Virus happened, hong kong protests end and usa economy will crash.
Meanwhile in China, they have allegedly contained virus while the rest of the world burns."
It ignores the evidence to state this. It's natural.
We have to deal with the problem now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Here's my crazy conspiracy theory.
Research lab. Probably just a very mild tester (to see how quickly it spreads across the world) for something a lot more lethal in the future. Joint "operation" by many governments as a future "solution" for population control...  |
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
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"If it was natural why did the Chinese government go to such lengths to cover it up ?
Many reasons probably, including protecting their economy and image management. "
Same reasons they tried to cover SARS-COV1 up which blew up in thier face. Didnt want bad reputation. They were lucky last time as inefficient in spreading.
This time NOT so lucky as spreads easy. |
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"i'm currently 75% lab - 25% bat soup"
I say accident, Lab to river to human/wildlife to market to human. Throw in tourism, business trips, illegal drug trade and a world wide spread.
Population control a possibilty, but unlikely purposely done, more oportunist.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Neither, starts in a bat, jumps to a pangolin, jumps to human. Bat eating is not common in China, grinding up pangolins to make 'medicine' is. "
The film contagion, shows one way it can jump from one species to another. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whatever the truth is, we're certainly not being told it!
I suspect China definitely knows way more than they are saying and this hasn't come from eating bats!"
No-one has claimed it came from eating the bats. See the Horizon programme re corona virus. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's well know that SARS was a lab accident.. but SARS-2 aka COVID-19 is a force of nature??? The mind boggles... "
"Well known" among bullshit conspiracy theorists... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's well know that SARS was a lab accident.. but SARS-2 aka COVID-19 is a force of nature??? The mind boggles...
"Well known" among bullshit conspiracy theorists..."
I didn't know the WHO done conspiracy theory? Maybe you should do some research.. like reading the report dated the 24.9.2003 before spouting conspiracy BS XXXX  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's well know that SARS was a lab accident.. but SARS-2 aka COVID-19 is a force of nature??? The mind boggles...
"Well known" among bullshit conspiracy theorists...
I didn't know the WHO done conspiracy theory? Maybe you should do some research.. like reading the report dated the 24.9.2003 before spouting conspiracy BS XXXX "
The one that says a case of SARS that occurred in Singapore after the outbreak was contained was due to accidental exposure in a lab that was studying the SARS coronavirus? The one that says nothing at all about the origin of the virus itself? |
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They are not saying the virus is man made, the investigation is on the lab in Wuhan as it was widely reported for years it was studying the effects of other coronavirus in animals including bat's. The lab was criticised previously for poor health and safety standards, and a theory about feral dogs eating the bat's somehow as dogs have some kind of dna that the virus is missing, then the dog was eaten. Just one theory being investigated by governments around the world, not just a tin foil hate theory. |
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By *ee.PMan
over a year ago
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Pangolins carry Covid 19 and they are stable diet for Chinese medicine. I have video footage of Wuhan market with locals openly eating live mice and live toads. It’s disgusting and should be stopped by the rest of the world. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It’s not manufactured. It’s a new virus passed from animals to humans . 99 percent of influenzas are . It’s the covering up of the outbreak that is the real scandal ... here’s looking at you China , United States , and United Kingdom. Blood on your hands |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They are not saying the virus is man made, the investigation is on the lab in Wuhan as it was widely reported for years it was studying the effects of other coronavirus in animals including bat's. The lab was criticised previously for poor health and safety standards, and a theory about feral dogs eating the bat's somehow as dogs have some kind of dna that the virus is missing, then the dog was eaten. Just one theory being investigated by governments around the world, not just a tin foil hate theory. "
As soon as some people hear "lab" they assume "bioweapon" and anyone who says it's not a conspiracy is part ofthe coverup. |
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"It’s not manufactured. It’s a new virus passed from animals to humans . 99 percent of influenzas are . It’s the covering up of the outbreak that is the real scandal ... here’s looking at you China , United States , and United Kingdom. Blood on your hands "
Da fuck did we cover up? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i'm currently 75% lab - 25% bat soup
I say accident, Lab to river to human/wildlife to market to human. Throw in tourism, business trips, illegal drug trade and a world wide spread.
Population control a possibilty, but unlikely purposely done, more oportunist.
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Alternatively.
They creayed SARS no it wasnt very effective. Lets try again
Oooh this one seems to be working rather well
Next time
We are fucked. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’m well aware of the conspiracies.... anymone who isn’t should check unit 731 .... but my hunch is it’s just another epidemic, these things happen from time to time . But unfortunately it’s happened now and could easily have been controlled and contained..... Money means more than human beings in the current climate unfortunately |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If it came from the market why is it back up and running again with the same dirty habits.My old dad always said the Chinese don't waist anything in the way of food.
I think it probably was man made in a lab. |
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"If it came from the market why is it back up and running again with the same dirty habits.My old dad always said the Chinese don't waist anything in the way of food.
I think it probably was man made in a lab. "
Dirt isn't the issue. The virus jumped the species barrier. That can happen anywhere two different species coexist. Flu jumped to humans from pigs and birds, for instance. The next it happens, it could be in a Delhi slum, a Norfolk slaughterhouse or a farm in Kansas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"** was an epidemic. Now much more serious, due to government failings
FFS stop making this awful situation political! You're not going to make any f'ing difference! "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"** was an epidemic. Now much more serious, due to government failings
FFS stop making this awful situation political! You're not going to make any f'ing difference! "
I’m not making it political .... I’m not and have never been politically motivated. The failings are there for all to see ? Nobody wants this situation to go on any further ffs . Lessons will be learned political wise . Or there again probably not |
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"If it came from the market why is it back up and running again with the same dirty habits.My old dad always said the Chinese don't waist anything in the way of food.
I think it probably was man made in a lab.
Dirt isn't the issue. The virus jumped the species barrier. That can happen anywhere two different species coexist. Flu jumped to humans from pigs and birds, for instance. The next it happens, it could be in a Delhi slum, a Norfolk slaughterhouse or a farm in Kansas."
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"If it came from the market why is it back up and running again with the same dirty habits.My old dad always said the Chinese don't waist anything in the way of food.
I think it probably was man made in a lab.
Dirt isn't the issue. The virus jumped the species barrier. That can happen anywhere two different species coexist. Flu jumped to humans from pigs and birds, for instance. The next it happens, it could be in a Delhi slum, a Norfolk slaughterhouse or a farm in Kansas."
Liking the farm in Kansas reference....dunno why the Spanish got the blame for that one....American Bird Flu would have been more accurate.... |
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"I’m well aware of the conspiracies.... anymone who isn’t should check unit 731 ....
Unit 731 isnt a conspiracy its confirmed and documented"
Exactly my point |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s not manufactured. It’s a new virus passed from animals to humans . 99 percent of influenzas are . It’s the covering up of the outbreak that is the real scandal ... here’s looking at you China , United States , and United Kingdom. Blood on your hands
Da fuck did we cover up? "
Really
You havent read the article in the Irish times about the testing at Kings university in London.
They are claiming herd immunity
Will be after a 3rd wave as only 60% will by then be immune.
Or other lab research who say
8 or 9 waves .
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity-may-take-multiple-waves-of-infection-study-1.4232873?mode=amp |
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Covid? Lab.
SARS? Lab
Bird flu? Lab.
Spanish Flu? I say lab.
Tuberculosis? LAB
Bubonic plague? Some medieval fucking lab.
Leprosy? Dirty Roman lab.
Ffs people. Diseases have been doing this throughout history. I know it’s a scary thought for your little minds but get over it, get with the programme and stop looking up chemtrails, MMR, moon landings and lizard people. You’re not open minded, and informed, you’re just too scientifically illiterate to smell bullshit. God knows how you feel about asteroids. Oh, I know. LAB.
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