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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Trump is basically doing everything and anything to deflect away from his lack of action.
Other countries, including the UK, have increased funding to the WHO. That is the sensible thing to do in the middle of a global pandemic. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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If that was the case why has the world health organisation refused scientific evidence that suggested they new Covid-19 spread from human to human transmission as far back as December 2019.
Why did the WHO advice against travel ristrictions from China to other countries
And why did the who and the cdc advice against people wearing face masks as ppe when traveling in public spaces?
The World health organisation lead us all astray because the majority of financial support they get comes via China.
Hard to prepare when your being advised against taking action
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"If that was the case why has the world health organisation refused scientific evidence that suggested they new Covid-19 spread from human to human transmission as far back as December 2019.
Why did the WHO advice against travel ristrictions from China to other countries
And why did the who and the cdc advice against people wearing face masks as ppe when traveling in public spaces?
The World health organisation lead us all astray because the majority of financial support they get comes via China.
Hard to prepare when your being advised against taking action
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China isnt the biggest funder of the WHO |
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Trouble is WHO warned the world back in October when Event 201 was held, you can see it on u tube now. Chinese scientists warned about a pandemic in March 2019. Everyone went to sleep on it. Or did they? Are we being led to believe our goverments are ill prepared or incompetent and making genuine errors of judgement.
Are the preparations already there but kept for the special selected?
The perfect storm to rid the world of the less needed, the dependants.
Are we talking euthanasia on a worldwide scale?
Just a thought. I could be wrong.
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"Trouble is WHO warned the world back in October when Event 201 was held, you can see it on u tube now. Chinese scientists warned about a pandemic in March 2019. Everyone went to sleep on it. Or did they? Are we being led to believe our goverments are ill prepared or incompetent and making genuine errors of judgement.
Are the preparations already there but kept for the special selected?
The perfect storm to rid the world of the less needed, the dependants.
Are we talking euthanasia on a worldwide scale?
Just a thought. I could be wrong.
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Worldwide euthanasia?
(recorded) worldwide deaths from the virus stand at 125k let's exaggerate that number by 40% to include unreported deaths.
Thats a big margin too. That is 175k people
The global population is 7.8 billion people.
Millions of people would to die just nudge this to 1% of the worlds population.
To put this all into perspective over 225,000 died in under 10 minutes during the 2004 Indian ocean tsunami.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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US pays more into who and more into nato than any other nation.
then they get voted against. id stop all funding and pull out every part of the military around European and let the Russians have it.
look after homeland first! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"US pays more into who and more into nato than any other nation.
then they get voted against. id stop all funding and pull out every part of the military around European and let the Russians have it.
look after homeland first!"
Forgetting that the US has 'interests' all around the world. That's why they fund, to influence... |
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"US pays more into who and more into nato than any other nation.
then they get voted against. id stop all funding and pull out every part of the military around European and let the Russians have it.
look after homeland first!
Forgetting that the US has 'interests' all around the world. That's why they fund, to influence..."
Spot on!
They pay because they're getting something out of it. |
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"Re election tactic. "
This..
Whilst the WHO have with hindsight and some countries made mistakes Trump is using this as a deflection for himself and his handling of the issue which is putting the spotlight on him at home in this an election year..
He praised China in January for the way they were dealing with it and their 'transparency'..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Trouble is WHO warned the world back in October when Event 201 was held, you can see it on u tube now. Chinese scientists warned about a pandemic in March 2019. Everyone went to sleep on it. Or did they? Are we being led to believe our goverments are ill prepared or incompetent and making genuine errors of judgement.
Are the preparations already there but kept for the special selected?
The perfect storm to rid the world of the less needed, the dependants.
Are we talking euthanasia on a worldwide scale?
Just a thought. I could be wrong.
Worldwide euthanasia?
(recorded) worldwide deaths from the virus stand at 125k let's exaggerate that number by 40% to include unreported deaths.
Thats a big margin too. That is 175k people
The global population is 7.8 billion people.
Millions of people would to die just nudge this to 1% of the worlds population.
To put this all into perspective over 225,000 died in under 10 minutes during the 2004 Indian ocean tsunami.
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And 1.5 million died of another droplet transferred disease in 2018. But very little publicity. TB!!....check the figures yourself.
As for deliberate targeting of the "less needed" this virus is no respecter of who you are.... look at some of those who have had it !
Not sure about WHO but I'm totally sure that China kept a lid on it for longer than they admit... |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Re election tactic.
This..
Whilst the WHO have with hindsight and some countries made mistakes Trump is using this as a deflection for himself and his handling of the issue which is putting the spotlight on him at home in this an election year..
He praised China in January for the way they were dealing with it and their 'transparency'..
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Yep, WHO is the very convenient new world order the right wing republicans focus on He praised Xi Jinping for the way china dealt with the outbreak. But he won't pick a fight with the CCP. It's all just deflection to avoid his own lack of action. He ignored warnings from his own staff and intelligence services
Expect the propaganda on twitter and his favourite broadcasters to start adding to the mix. |
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"Re election tactic.
This..
Whilst the WHO have with hindsight and some countries made mistakes Trump is using this as a deflection for himself and his handling of the issue which is putting the spotlight on him at home in this an election year..
He praised China in January for the way they were dealing with it and their 'transparency'..
Yep, WHO is the very convenient new world order the right wing republicans focus on He praised Xi Jinping for the way china dealt with the outbreak. But he won't pick a fight with the CCP. It's all just deflection to avoid his own lack of action. He ignored warnings from his own staff and intelligence services
Expect the propaganda on twitter and his favourite broadcasters to start adding to the mix."
Yes, his meltdowns are becoming more frequent with the media who are asking the questions of him..
And good to see that several channel cut the live feed when they try and air his bias on how well he thinks he has done..
He's losing it and this issue has highlighted again his lack of abilities.. |
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"If that was the case why has the world health organisation refused scientific evidence that suggested they new Covid-19 spread from human to human transmission as far back as December 2019.
Why did the WHO advice against travel ristrictions from China to other countries
And why did the who and the cdc advice against people wearing face masks as ppe when traveling in public spaces?
The World health organisation lead us all astray because the majority of financial support they get comes via China.
Hard to prepare when your being advised against taking action
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I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure China's contribution to the WHO is tiny compared to the US's.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Whatever people think of President Trump, he is a businessman.
If a businessman pays for a service but does not receive that service, then that businessman will stop paying for it = it really isn't that difficult.
The World Health Organisation have taken no action whatsoever in China to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. |
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"Whatever people think of President Trump, he is a businessman.
If a businessman pays for a service but does not receive that service, then that businessman will stop paying for it = it really isn't that difficult.
The World Health Organisation have taken no action whatsoever in China to prevent this sort of thing from happening again."
Not sure it's within their remit to take action against member states, any such issues need addressing of course and maybe will take place in a diplomatic fashion..
Like any part of the UN each country they deal with will require different ways of doing so..
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You would expect an organisation called 'world health organisation' to be impartial and therefore shouldn't be funded more by any country or by wealthy individuals.
They should be funded by everyone and represent everyone
Just my view anyway |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"If that was the case why has the world health organisation refused scientific evidence that suggested they new Covid-19 spread from human to human transmission as far back as December 2019.
Why did the WHO advice against travel ristrictions from China to other countries
And why did the who and the cdc advice against people wearing face masks as ppe when traveling in public spaces?
The World health organisation lead us all astray because the majority of financial support they get comes via China.
Hard to prepare when your being advised against taking action
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure China's contribution to the WHO is tiny compared to the US's.."
You are, this is just politics. The US contributes 2.5% of the WHO global budget. This is works out at $58 million. It was due Jan 31. For 2019 it was $59 million, the US has only paid $18 million of that.
By way of comparison the US airline industry got a $25 BILLION bailout. Trumps golf has cost the US taxpayer $133 million
China's contribution to WHO is $60 million |
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"If that was the case why has the world health organisation refused scientific evidence that suggested they new Covid-19 spread from human to human transmission as far back as December 2019.
Why did the WHO advice against travel ristrictions from China to other countries
And why did the who and the cdc advice against people wearing face masks as ppe when traveling in public spaces?
The World health organisation lead us all astray because the majority of financial support they get comes via China.
Hard to prepare when your being advised against taking action
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure China's contribution to the WHO is tiny compared to the US's..
You are, this is just politics. The US contributes 2.5% of the WHO global budget. This is works out at $58 million. It was due Jan 31. For 2019 it was $59 million, the US has only paid $18 million of that.
By way of comparison the US airline industry got a $25 BILLION bailout. Trumps golf has cost the US taxpayer $133 million
China's contribution to WHO is $60 million"
This is all politics, deflection from his criticism at that damn awful press conference and an attempt to restrict Chinese growing influence globally reducing the US. There is also talk in the administration that funding will be linked to the number of Americans working at an organisation.
There is more being done by Bill than by Donny |
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"If that was the case why has the world health organisation refused scientific evidence that suggested they new Covid-19 spread from human to human transmission as far back as December 2019.
Why did the WHO advice against travel ristrictions from China to other countries
And why did the who and the cdc advice against people wearing face masks as ppe when traveling in public spaces?
The World health organisation lead us all astray because the majority of financial support they get comes via China.
Hard to prepare when your being advised against taking action
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly sure China's contribution to the WHO is tiny compared to the US's..
You are, this is just politics. The US contributes 2.5% of the WHO global budget. This is works out at $58 million. It was due Jan 31. For 2019 it was $59 million, the US has only paid $18 million of that.
By way of comparison the US airline industry got a $25 BILLION bailout. Trumps golf has cost the US taxpayer $133 million
China's contribution to WHO is $60 million"
My Google found this.
"In its most recent budget proposal in February, the Trump administration requested a reduction in U.S. financial contributions to the WHO from $122.6m to an assessed contribution of $57.9m. Despite the slashed budget, that figure still makes the U.S. the WHO’s top financial contributor by far. China pays in the second highest sum, $28.6m, followed by Japan’s $20.5m. The total sum of assessed contributions invoiced by the WHO on January 01 and due for payment this year stood at $246.8 million, of which $79 million had been paid by members as of March 31." |
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Perhaps Trump just doesnt want them looking into those rumours about a US funded laboratory doing experiments on the very same bats blamed..
Btw I saw the story. Dont know how credible it is. But it was on most major sites . |
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"You would expect an organisation called 'world health organisation' to be impartial and therefore shouldn't be funded more by any country or by wealthy individuals.
They should be funded by everyone and represent everyone
Just my view anyway
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How would you propose that happens? Individual voluntary contributions?
Not going to happen is it?
Let's face it, the majority of people in this country voted for continued under funding of our own NHS and welfare state. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The guys a joke. Denied it for weeks and then said America will be open soon. I think the people in america will soon wake up and see what that he Buried his head in the sand and is now looking for someone to blame |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The tinfoil hat brigade are out in force today, next it will be George Soros, the new world order and the Jews to blame."
I heard some were blaming 5G for it as well, with reports of transmitters being vandalised.
To paraphrase Tropic Thunder, "They went full tin foil. You NEVER go full tin foil." |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You would expect an organisation called 'world health organisation' to be impartial and therefore shouldn't be funded more by any country or by wealthy individuals.
They should be funded by everyone and represent everyone
Just my view anyway
How would you propose that happens? Individual voluntary contributions?
Not going to happen is it?
Let's face it, the majority of people in this country voted for continued under funding of our own NHS and welfare state."
Absolutely! After Jeremy Hunt's assault on the NHS, why was more of that wanted? For shame |
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Trump is a self-centred imbecile who's only focus is re-election.
The head of the richest nation with a lamentable response needs to talk $$$. It's all he thinks about.
Why suspend $$$ and investigate putting them on the defensive instead of simply investigating and keeping them on side? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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where did ypou get your figures from?? ive got china's bill for 2020 at $57,439,805 and the usa's bill for this year is $115,766,922. thats from the WHO website. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The tinfoil hat brigade are out in force today, next it will be George Soros, the new world order and the Jews to blame.
I heard some were blaming 5G for it as well, with reports of transmitters being vandalised.
To paraphrase Tropic Thunder, "They went full tin foil. You NEVER go full tin foil.""
I know, Facebook was full of idiots sharing posts supposedly proving 5G was causing the virus and a few on here was doing the same too.
Their the ones that need removing from the gene pool for the sake of humanity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Anyone who thinks the political posturing of defunding the world health organisation in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory, needs to stop and think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman.... |
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman...."
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman...."
He has prior history. Pulling out of the Paris Climate deal, for example. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps? "
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything. |
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps?
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything."
I guess you think it's ok for China to do that, figures... |
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps?
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything."
It’s the Chinese who have placed Muslims in internment camps. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps?
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything.
I guess you think it's ok for China to do that, figures..."
I have no clue what you're accusing me of. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps?
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything.
It’s the Chinese who have placed Muslims in internment camps. "
That must really pickle his noodle. The two groups of people he complains about the most. |
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps?
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything.
It’s the Chinese who have placed Muslims in internment camps. "
He knows, but he blames trump and working class Tories. It's "his thing". |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly just beyond a joke now with Trump, he was dangerous enough, but now with this going on he is 100% the single most dangerous man on the planet who is going to be responsible for more deaths than all the immigrants and other "bad guys" he constantly rants about. Wonder if its time to learn from history, maybe from two certain Athenians or some Roman guardsman....
Has he also placed thousands of muslims into internment camps?
Always with the Muslims. Give it a break. I thought you moved to blaming Chinese for everything.
It’s the Chinese who have placed Muslims in internment camps.
He knows, but he blames trump and working class Tories. It's "his thing". "
I can confirm that I didn't know what you were referring to.
And I can also confirm that your speculative comments about who I blame for something which I didn't know you were referring to. Are false.
My "thing" is judging people by the content of their character, rather than their religion, skin colour or nationality. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry I care about dead women and kids unlike u "
Bless.
Although I do fail to see how condemning China equates to caring about dead people. It is rather an unreasoned statement. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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I find Trump to be an ill informed dangerous person. Whilst he may have points about mis-management leading up to this pandemic now is not the time to pull the funding.
I think it’s simply a publicity stunt to deflect from the poor situation in America. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find Trump to be an ill informed dangerous person. Whilst he may have points about mis-management leading up to this pandemic now is not the time to pull the funding.
I think it’s simply a publicity stunt to deflect from the poor situation in America. "
I agree its having someone to blame apart from his own mismanagement of this |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry I care about dead women and kids unlike u "
Not sure if the above comment was directed at us?
If it was, then we remember the dead, but care about the living!
If the comment was at us, you do not know us - JOG ON! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It’s very depressing to read this thread and to see how misinformation has spread as fast as covid itself.
WHO advice as with medicine itself has to be based on the best available evidence at any time. They don’t take a position and stick with it. China withheld information from them in January hence their statement that human to human spread was unlikely early on. Advice changes
They do not take sides to with whoever gives them more money regardless of what you might see on infowars or 4chan.
To defund then now when they are the ones in the best position to coordinate a global response is utter irresponsible madness |
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"It’s very depressing to read this thread and to see how misinformation has spread as fast as covid itself.
WHO advice as with medicine itself has to be based on the best available evidence at any time. They don’t take a position and stick with it. China withheld information from them in January hence their statement that human to human spread was unlikely early on. Advice changes
They do not take sides to with whoever gives them more money regardless of what you might see on infowars or 4chan.
To defund then now when they are the ones in the best position to coordinate a global response is utter irresponsible madness "
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"It’s very depressing to read this thread and to see how misinformation has spread as fast as covid itself.
WHO advice as with medicine itself has to be based on the best available evidence at any time. They don’t take a position and stick with it. China withheld information from them in January hence their statement that human to human spread was unlikely early on. Advice changes
They do not take sides to with whoever gives them more money regardless of what you might see on infowars or 4chan.
To defund then now when they are the ones in the best position to coordinate a global response is utter irresponsible madness
Totally agree "
WHO scientist got first got to Wuhan on Jan 20. They issued a statement on Jan 23 https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
Their advise to other countries:
"It is expected that further international exportation of cases may appear in any country. Thus, all countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management, contact tracing and prevention of onward spread of 2019-nCoV infection, and to share full data with WHO."
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"About fucking time hopefuly the truth will come out and more countries will follow suit fuck the CCP
Oh give it a rest about the ccp. "
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If Trump said that bears shit in woods then half you snowflakes would attack him for it. I can't believe people are still defending the WHO. They don't have any entitlement to our tax payer money, we give a lot more than China by the way. In 2017 we threatened to cut our funding because of their shitty handling of ebola and their performance this time is indefensible. In what possible way is this virus anything but an unmitigated disaster? How would it possibly be worse if they didn't exist!?
You do not need to pay a director general a $240,000 salary to sit there and have sloped shoulders saying he didn't get the info. At $240,000 a year, his job is to get the fucking info. Heaven forbid people should actually be held accountable for their job performance. Get over your anti-trump hysteria, he'll be accountable to the American people at an election soon. It's time some heads rolled in this government too, where are our fucking test kits and PPE? Some dumb cunt had to job to analyse the supply chain of these things and stockpile if necessary, which is what South Korea did and why they have less deaths total, than we had yesterday. |
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"If Trump said that bears shit in woods then half you snowflakes would attack him for it. I can't believe people are still defending the WHO. They don't have any entitlement to our tax payer money, we give a lot more than China by the way. In 2017 we threatened to cut our funding because of their shitty handling of ebola and their performance this time is indefensible. In what possible way is this virus anything but an unmitigated disaster? How would it possibly be worse if they didn't exist!?
You do not need to pay a director general a $240,000 salary to sit there and have sloped shoulders saying he didn't get the info. At $240,000 a year, his job is to get the fucking info. Heaven forbid people should actually be held accountable for their job performance. Get over your anti-trump hysteria, he'll be accountable to the American people at an election soon. It's time some heads rolled in this government too, where are our fucking test kits and PPE? Some dumb cunt had to job to analyse the supply chain of these things and stockpile if necessary, which is what South Korea did and why they have less deaths total, than we had yesterday. "
Ah you used "snowflake" in your first sentence. I stopped reading.
This word is used exclusively by people who are too angry to make a rational point. And too confused to understand information and logic and have to resort to insults. |
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"If Trump said that bears shit in woods then half you snowflakes would attack him for it. I can't believe people are still defending the WHO. They don't have any entitlement to our tax payer money, we give a lot more than China by the way. In 2017 we threatened to cut our funding because of their shitty handling of ebola and their performance this time is indefensible. In what possible way is this virus anything but an unmitigated disaster? How would it possibly be worse if they didn't exist!?
You do not need to pay a director general a $240,000 salary to sit there and have sloped shoulders saying he didn't get the info. At $240,000 a year, his job is to get the fucking info. Heaven forbid people should actually be held accountable for their job performance. Get over your anti-trump hysteria, he'll be accountable to the American people at an election soon. It's time some heads rolled in this government too, where are our fucking test kits and PPE? Some dumb cunt had to job to analyse the supply chain of these things and stockpile if necessary, which is what South Korea did and why they have less deaths total, than we had yesterday.
Ah you used "snowflake" in your first sentence. I stopped reading.
This word is used exclusively by people who are too angry to make a rational point. And too confused to understand information and logic and have to resort to insults. "
Snowflake,bleeding heart,do gooder..I've heard them all the last few weeks. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem"
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission". |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission". "
But they did warn governments to be prepared. Most chose to ignore it. It’s just another bird flu etc it will come to nothing they said. People said that on here. Look where we are now. |
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Just look what happened after it was all confirmed how dangerous it was. Trump made a statement saying it was a fake virus..and people were going to work with the virus...and got better, spreading it like feck though.
Then we had boris shaking everyone's hand on a COVID-19 ward.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission". "
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf"
So why are they coming under fire? |
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over a year ago
Derry |
"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
So why are they coming under fire?"
Because of social media disinformation and a need to deflect and distract from the certain national leaders. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
So why are they coming under fire?
Because of social media disinformation and a need to deflect and distract from the certain national leaders."
That was a serious question btw. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf"
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability. |
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"Just look what happened after it was all confirmed how dangerous it was. Trump made a statement saying it was a fake virus..and people were going to work with the virus...and got better, spreading it like feck though.
Then we had boris shaking everyone's hand on a COVID-19 ward.
Yeah WHO fucked up "
Because it couldn't possibly be both |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability. "
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
So why are they coming under fire?
Because of social media disinformation and a need to deflect and distract from the certain national leaders.
That was a serious question btw."
My answer was serious as well. Attacking WHO serves 2 purposes, it weakens global institutions and takes the focus of the failure of national governments to act. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability.
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that"
So you mean that on January 14th they were releasing information without verifying it? |
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"Trump is basically doing everything and anything to deflect away from his lack of action.
Other countries, including the UK, have increased funding to the WHO. That is the sensible thing to do in the middle of a global pandemic."
Lol next joke please |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability.
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that
So you mean that on January 14th they were releasing information without verifying it? "
No, it means that they didn't have verifiable evidence on Jan 14 of human to human transmission. Can't you understand that this was an evolving situation. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability.
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that
So you mean that on January 14th they were releasing information without verifying it?
No, it means that they didn't have verifiable evidence on Jan 14 of human to human transmission. Can't you understand that this was an evolving situation."
When you pay an organisation hundreds of millions of dollars and people $240,000 salaries to find the evidence, I don't accept their sloped shoulders responses. If you think any FTSE 100 company could perform like the WHO and not have their management fired, you live in a fantasy world. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability.
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that
So you mean that on January 14th they were releasing information without verifying it?
No, it means that they didn't have verifiable evidence on Jan 14 of human to human transmission. Can't you understand that this was an evolving situation.
When you pay an organisation hundreds of millions of dollars and people $240,000 salaries to find the evidence, I don't accept their sloped shoulders responses. If you think any FTSE 100 company could perform like the WHO and not have their management fired, you live in a fantasy world. "
WHO did their job, the monitored the situation and when they had verifiable information they released it, it's not their fault that national governments failed to act.
On Jan 10 WHO released a review checklist with the aim of better understand existing capacities in the area of detection
and response to a novel coronavirus (nCoV) that is zoonotic and causes respiratory disease. The tool was developed
with other coronaviruses, such as SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, in mind and in consultation with member states.
This information will help national authorities to i) identify main gaps ii) perform risk assessments and iii) plan for
additional investigations, response and control actions.
4 months later, UK health workers are using bin bags and they are still working on mass testing methods. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability.
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that
So you mean that on January 14th they were releasing information without verifying it?
No, it means that they didn't have verifiable evidence on Jan 14 of human to human transmission. Can't you understand that this was an evolving situation.
When you pay an organisation hundreds of millions of dollars and people $240,000 salaries to find the evidence, I don't accept their sloped shoulders responses. If you think any FTSE 100 company could perform like the WHO and not have their management fired, you live in a fantasy world.
WHO did their job, the monitored the situation and when they had verifiable information they released it, it's not their fault that national governments failed to act.
On Jan 10 WHO released a review checklist with the aim of better understand existing capacities in the area of detection
and response to a novel coronavirus (nCoV) that is zoonotic and causes respiratory disease. The tool was developed
with other coronaviruses, such as SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, in mind and in consultation with member states.
This information will help national authorities to i) identify main gaps ii) perform risk assessments and iii) plan for
additional investigations, response and control actions.
4 months later, UK health workers are using bin bags and they are still working on mass testing methods."
If you think they did their job then their job is clearly worthless and there's no need to pay them to do it since we are living through an unmitigated disaster. I don't think they did their job at all and am glad they are being held to account. |
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"I have read the WHO report Jan 2020 and The committee does not reccomend any travel or trade restrictions. I REST MY CASE WHO THE problem
Don't forget January 14 when they found "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission".
WHO didn't get to Wuhan until Jan 20, their statement on the visit warned of a 4 percent death rate, human-to-human transmission and potential exporting of the virus to “any country.”
Their Feb 24 report recommended national governments “immediately activate the highest level of national response,” including immediate and extensive testing and planning for closing schools and workplaces.
Have a look for yourself here.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/23-01-2020-statement-on-the-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-outbreak-of-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
You realise that makes things worse. They hadn't even been to the outbreak and they are tweeting that there's no evidence of human to human transmission!!! Don't get confused and think I'm saying trump is doing a good job. The difference is that he'll face election and be held accountable. WHO is a chronic failure that never faces accountability.
The moment they had information that could be verified they released it, to me the bigger failings is on part of national governments not acting and the CCP delaying access to Wuhan. But the moment they knew they shared the information & you think they should be condemned for that
So you mean that on January 14th they were releasing information without verifying it?
No, it means that they didn't have verifiable evidence on Jan 14 of human to human transmission. Can't you understand that this was an evolving situation.
When you pay an organisation hundreds of millions of dollars and people $240,000 salaries to find the evidence, I don't accept their sloped shoulders responses. If you think any FTSE 100 company could perform like the WHO and not have their management fired, you live in a fantasy world.
WHO did their job, the monitored the situation and when they had verifiable information they released it, it's not their fault that national governments failed to act.
On Jan 10 WHO released a review checklist with the aim of better understand existing capacities in the area of detection
and response to a novel coronavirus (nCoV) that is zoonotic and causes respiratory disease. The tool was developed
with other coronaviruses, such as SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, in mind and in consultation with member states.
This information will help national authorities to i) identify main gaps ii) perform risk assessments and iii) plan for
additional investigations, response and control actions.
4 months later, UK health workers are using bin bags and they are still working on mass testing methods.
If you think they did their job then their job is clearly worthless and there's no need to pay them to do it since we are living through an unmitigated disaster. I don't think they did their job at all and am glad they are being held to account."
Who is hold them to account? |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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Could it be that THE WHO didn't a great job.
AND
Could it also be that trump is spinning this as a deflection for how poorly he has handled the virus.
Why is everything in the world becoming bipartisan... A (vs) war.
You can't even by a product without someone trying to ram a comparison to another product down your throat.
It's OK to like and think different things
Here is a rational thought. Maybe both of them fucked up.
Any opinion and decision whilst you are both entitled them... Is not going to change global macro policies and economics.
I listen to those who oppose my ideas not to start a war but to challenge my own opinions and perceptions changing them when I see new evidence or a compelling argument.
Retaining and adapting old beliefs and opinions whilst accepting new information.
Arguing on the internet isn't a good look for anyone |
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"Could it be that THE WHO didn't a great job.
AND
Could it also be that trump is spinning this as a deflection for how poorly he has handled the virus.
Why is everything in the world becoming bipartisan... A (vs) war.
You can't even by a product without someone trying to ram a comparison to another product down your throat.
It's OK to like and think different things
Here is a rational thought. Maybe both of them fucked up.
Any opinion and decision whilst you are both entitled them... Is not going to change global macro policies and economics.
I listen to those who oppose my ideas not to start a war but to challenge my own opinions and perceptions changing them when I see new evidence or a compelling argument.
Retaining and adapting old beliefs and opinions whilst accepting new information.
Arguing on the internet isn't a good look for anyone "
It's the blame game...its not me so who else can he blame...pure deflection |
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"Could it be that THE WHO didn't a great job.
AND
Could it also be that trump is spinning this as a deflection for how poorly he has handled the virus.
Why is everything in the world becoming bipartisan... A (vs) war.
You can't even by a product without someone trying to ram a comparison to another product down your throat.
It's OK to like and think different things
Here is a rational thought. Maybe both of them fucked up.
Any opinion and decision whilst you are both entitled them... Is not going to change global macro policies and economics.
I listen to those who oppose my ideas not to start a war but to challenge my own opinions and perceptions changing them when I see new evidence or a compelling argument.
Retaining and adapting old beliefs and opinions whilst accepting new information.
Arguing on the internet isn't a good look for anyone "
The thing Is..only 1 person is pointing the finger. |
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