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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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Its coming, possibly in 3 weeks, possibly longer.
What would your exit strategy involve?
Here's my thoughts
Schools - reopen for exam year students only, see if they can get them done. Once exams done, they leave and remaining years come back in, possibly split days or try and catch up.
Social Distancing - remains.
Face masks and Gloves - leave PPE for those in front line.
Retail - major malls stay shut, high street stores allowed open but with strict distancing and till shields.
Retail parks - allow to open but with alternate car park spaces coned off. Reduces numbers in store and aids distancing.
Technology - only those with active contact tracing app allowed into newly opened retail premises. And public transport.
Gyms - yes but with social distancing.
Pubs and clubs - not yet sorry.
Restaurants - allowed but with social distancing. Pre booked only no walk ups.
It's difficult but I think just a normal reopen everything wont work.
Let's have your thoughts and ideas. |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Everything will remain the same for me as it is now. So I'll pass on your PPE suggestion as I will need to keep my masks..."
There will be people who need to continue self isolation until the virus drops to a low level. But what about for the rest of the measures? |
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"Its coming, possibly in 3 weeks, possibly longer.
What would your exit strategy involve?
Here's my thoughts
Schools - reopen for exam year students only, see if they can get them done. Once exams done, they leave and remaining years come back in, possibly split days or try and catch up.
Social Distancing - remains.
Face masks and Gloves - leave PPE for those in front line.
Retail - major malls stay shut, high street stores allowed open but with strict distancing and till shields.
Retail parks - allow to open but with alternate car park spaces coned off. Reduces numbers in store and aids distancing.
Technology - only those with active contact tracing app allowed into newly opened retail premises. And public transport.
Gyms - yes but with social distancing.
Pubs and clubs - not yet sorry.
Restaurants - allowed but with social distancing. Pre booked only no walk ups.
It's difficult but I think just a normal reopen everything wont work.
Let's have your thoughts and ideas."
Restaurants -take away only via ordering and pick up.
Gyms no - Surely a place where you work out and sweat is a breeding ground for the virus. Plus girls can do there talking on the phone not at the gym! Lol
Technology - Not everyone has a smart phone so this will be hard to put in place.
Public transport for key workers only? |
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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Restaurants - quite a few doing that already as its allowed, but was thinking about easing of restrictions.
Gyms no - respiratory virus, not spread by sweat (I dont think), opening may reduce numbers walking around parks.
Technology - must be well over 50% do? Some info better than none?
Public transport - alternate public transport, 1 for key workers next for Joe public? |
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The idea that all these businesses will remain closed on a long-term basis seems fanciful to me.
The economy would collapse, leading to mass unemployment, poverty, mental health problems, soaring crime and massive taxation.
In Germany, coronavirus is only as deadly as the flu.
That's not to downplay how dangerous the virus is but, as in past pandemics, the healthy people will need to develop immunity.
Meanwhile, we keep shielding carehomes, geriatrics and those with compromised immune systems.
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"The idea that all these businesses will remain closed on a long-term basis seems fanciful to me.
The economy would collapse, leading to mass unemployment, poverty, mental health problems, soaring crime and massive taxation.
In Germany, coronavirus is only as deadly as the flu.
That's not to downplay how dangerous the virus is but, as in past pandemics, the healthy people will need to develop immunity.
Meanwhile, we keep shielding carehomes, geriatrics and those with compromised immune systems.
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But surely not a mass re-open back to as it was? |
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"The idea that all these businesses will remain closed on a long-term basis seems fanciful to me.
The economy would collapse, leading to mass unemployment, poverty, mental health problems, soaring crime and massive taxation.
In Germany, coronavirus is only as deadly as the flu.
That's not to downplay how dangerous the virus is but, as in past pandemics, the healthy people will need to develop immunity.
Meanwhile, we keep shielding carehomes, geriatrics and those with compromised immune systems.
But surely not a mass re-open back to as it was?"
It would be sensible not to have mass gatherings for a while.
Public transport needs to be administered more efficiently to reduce numbers and keep a percentage of people on home working.
Pubs need to be table service only and a limit on numbers.
We should be using this time to effectively quarantine the vulnerable.
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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago
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"The idea that all these businesses will remain closed on a long-term basis seems fanciful to me.
The economy would collapse, leading to mass unemployment, poverty, mental health problems, soaring crime and massive taxation.
In Germany, coronavirus is only as deadly as the flu.
That's not to downplay how dangerous the virus is but, as in past pandemics, the healthy people will need to develop immunity.
Meanwhile, we keep shielding carehomes, geriatrics and those with compromised immune systems.
But surely not a mass re-open back to as it was?
It would be sensible not to have mass gatherings for a while.
Public transport needs to be administered more efficiently to reduce numbers and keep a percentage of people on home working.
Pubs need to be table service only and a limit on numbers.
We should be using this time to effectively quarantine the vulnerable.
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Mass gatherings definitely.
Public transport, agree, and I think more companies may look deeper into home working in the future.
Treat pubs same as restaurants? Pre booked only?
And yes, sadly keep the "shielding" in place. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The economy will be key to any exit strategy. It shouldn't be, but money drives everything and will be put before public health.
I am of the opinion that the Government can only afford another 3 weeks of lock down.
Watch this space!
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"Its coming, possibly in 3 weeks, possibly longer.
What would your exit strategy involve?
Here's my thoughts
Schools - reopen for exam year students only, see if they can get them done. Once exams done, they leave and remaining years come back in, possibly split days or try and catch up.
Social Distancing - remains.
Face masks and Gloves - leave PPE for those in front line.
Retail - major malls stay shut, high street stores allowed open but with strict distancing and till shields.
Retail parks - allow to open but with alternate car park spaces coned off. Reduces numbers in store and aids distancing.
Technology - only those with active contact tracing app allowed into newly opened retail premises. And public transport.
Gyms - yes but with social distancing.
Pubs and clubs - not yet sorry.
Restaurants - allowed but with social distancing. Pre booked only no walk ups.
It's difficult but I think just a normal reopen everything wont work.
Let's have your thoughts and ideas.
Restaurants -take away only via ordering and pick up.
Gyms no - Surely a place where you work out and sweat is a breeding ground for the virus. Plus girls can do there talking on the phone not at the gym! Lol
Technology - Not everyone has a smart phone so this will be hard to put in place.
Public transport for key workers only?"
How can you enforce social distance in a school environment Plus this virus has shown no one is safe even if healthy????? |
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"Everything will remain the same for me as it is now until a vaccine comes along. So I'll pass on your PPE suggestion as I will need to keep my masks..." No going out for you for about 2 year's good luck
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"Its coming, possibly in 3 weeks, possibly longer.
What would your exit strategy involve?
Here's my thoughts
Schools - reopen for exam year students only, see if they can get them done. Once exams done, they leave and remaining years come back in, possibly split days or try and catch up.
Testing for all schools
Social Distancing - remains.
Yes
Face masks and Gloves - leave PPE for those in front line.
And for the vulnerable
Retail - major malls stay shut, high street stores allowed open but with strict distancing and till shields.
No shop open to public for browsing apart from food, online orders and click and collect
Retail parks - allow to open but with alternate car park spaces coned off. Reduces numbers in store and aids distancing.
Agree on alternate parking for click and collect
Technology - only those with active contact tracing app allowed into newly opened retail premises. And public transport.
Public transport staff and customers wear PPE and test
Gyms - yes but with social distancing.
No
Pubs and clubs - not yet sorry.
Take away for pubs only
Restaurants - allowed but with social distancing. Pre booked only no walk ups.
Takeaway for restaurants only
It's difficult but I think just a normal reopen everything wont work.
Let's have your thoughts and ideas."
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I don't have a strategy. However, it is clear that, even after a 3 month lockdown - which, unsurprisingly, the OBR say will really bugger the economy - we will still be at least a further 9 months away from having a vaccine.
So, your immediate future will not involve mass transport, tourism and air travel, gathering at sporting events, cinemas and theatres, etc until next year, at best.
When those things do begin to happen again, in a shrunken economy, with people struggling to pay their bills, you may be required to wear a mask beyond your own home - as should your children, if they are back at school - and to have your movements monitored, until the necessary number of people have been vaccinated.
The economy is not going to return to what it was. It won't be able to. There's damage already done - and it is going to get worse.
The long term effects on your children and grandchildren are not avoidable - particularly if you are poor; or have just become poor.
Whatever exit strategy there is - life as you knew it is not going to return. It can't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think that the huge depression caused by all this will lead to a very short but extremely destructive WW3. Just as the Great Depression led to WW2. Billions will be killed in the first day. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everything will remain the same for me as it is now until a vaccine comes along. So I'll pass on your PPE suggestion as I will need to keep my masks...No going out for you for about 2 year's good luck "
Out every day mate...just have to be careful |
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"The economy will be key to any exit strategy. It shouldn't be, but money drives everything and will be put before public health.
I am of the opinion that the Government can only afford another 3 weeks of lock down.
Watch this space!
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Its frustrating when people trot out the "money drives everything and will be put before blah blah blah" line.
It's shows an ignorance of the impact money has on commerce, and how the lack of commerce will ruin this country and many others.
An example; the firm I was working for had 250 staff on one site. Each person earning an average of £1,500 A week. Each person earning the company around £250 A week.
Now the sites closed, but the company still has to pay £375,000 each week in wages, with zero profit.
That's not sustainable for any company for long. And that's just one of their sites. The overall project has over 2500 staff working on it.
So yes, money is important. The impact of these companies going into administration is catastrophic.
One company, one site. How many more throughout the UK?
We must get industry back to work as safely and as soon as humanly possible.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Don't worry the multi national companies having seen off any competitors, will slowly push of some freedom for us pesants.
The new world order will be theirs for the taking, work in their factories and shops paying their prices. |
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"Don't worry the multi national companies having seen off any competitors, will slowly push of some freedom for us pesants.
The new world order will be theirs for the taking, work in their factories and shops paying their prices. "
Now you're just being silly.... |
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