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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Maybe now he will see fit to give NHS staff a pay increase.

Too late for the 3 cleaning staff who died this week. Risked their lives for £9ph.

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By *pecialK88Man over a year ago

Aberdeen

Highly doubtful. Fairly certain he would have got 10x more care than the average patient and if they didn't see fit to give them a raise before this situation wont change their opinion.

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By *icebloke551Man over a year ago

Kidderminster

Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

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By *itonmyfacebookMan over a year ago

Burton on Trent

Has it been a publicity stunt?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Highly doubtful. Fairly certain he would have got 10x more care than the average patient and if they didn't see fit to give them a raise before this situation wont change their opinion."

You sound like a pragmatist sir.

I am an optimist.

Hopefully he will be grateful for his life being saved. More likely he will use what happened to him to make himself look like a martyr.

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By *itonmyfacebookMan over a year ago

Burton on Trent

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

It's a national institution and is not for sale.

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

It's a national institution and is not for sale."
It never has been for sale

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

Strange attitude to have. When at some point in your life you need the NHS maybe you will be more appreciative.

3 cleaners died last week in the hospital I work. £9 an hour.

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By *itonmyfacebookMan over a year ago

Burton on Trent

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

It's a national institution and is not for sale.It never has been for sale"

Bo Jo and his gang were doing their best. And yes I know Virgin Care was set up by Blair, etc.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

Empethatic point of view

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives "

Excellent point

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point "

They worked for the NHS not the army

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

They worked for the NHS not the army"

Exactly. Where is the duty of care from their employer’s?

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By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point "

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

They worked for the NHS not the army

Exactly. Where is the duty of care from their employer’s? "

I'm foreseeing a fair few lawsuits in the coming months

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives "
They should do and be trained that this can happen

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?"

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

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By *shrop_cpleCouple over a year ago

Ceredigion

Great to see someone getting the better of this dreadful virus. Follow the advice folks and do your bit to protect others from having to go on those ghastly ventilators.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

No pay rise in over 5 yrs.

Average 4k worse off.

Like any job chose to do it yes..

Very skilled nurses health care and doctors.

Saved a few lives.

NHS worker

I won't comment further

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Has it been a publicity stunt? "

I've got to admit it crossed my mind too..

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By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were. "

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

They worked for the NHS not the army

Exactly. Where is the duty of care from their employer’s? "

Have a look at the q and a today re ppe

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it."

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

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By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?"

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?"

Nope.

I said if you worked with infected patients all day and caught the bus it's very,very unlikely you caught it on The bus.

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By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?

Nope.

I said if you worked with infected patients all day and caught the bus it's very,very unlikely you caught it on The bus."

How do you know that?

You just don'the

The point is nobody knows when they actually get it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?"

The Covid patient’s don’t magic themselves into the hospital. They are wheeled through corridors and in lifts.

One of the symptoms is persistent coughing. I work in a large hospital. Hardly anyone wears ppe whilst walking around the hospital.

They were cleaners. Do you understand the job of a cleaner? PPE isn’t infallible. At the start of this crisis there were not enough ffp3 masks available.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?

Nope.

I said if you worked with infected patients all day and caught the bus it's very,very unlikely you caught it on The bus.

How do you know that?

You just don'the

The point is nobody knows when they actually get it.

This forum consistently amazes me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?

Nope.

I said if you worked with infected patients all day and caught the bus it's very,very unlikely you caught it on The bus.

How do you know that?

You just don'the

The point is nobody knows when they actually get it.

No we dont...but you have to admit the odds are on the workplace if...yes if they never had the required ppe...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?

Nope.

I said if you worked with infected patients all day and caught the bus it's very,very unlikely you caught it on The bus.

How do you know that?

You just don'the

The point is nobody knows when they actually get it.

Would you be using that same logic for the doctors, nurses and midwife thus far that have also died..?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

Did you choose your user name based on your lack Of empathy and compassion

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

The next time I see a report about a dr/nurse dying from covid my 1st thought wont be..that's horrific dying trying to save someone's life as they didnt have the proper gear.

It will be..well thats what they were paid to do and they probably caught it on the bus anyway.

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By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it .

They didn't choose a job expecting to risk their own lives

Excellent point

Is there 100% evidence that they were infected whilst at work?

Obviously not. How could there be?

But you don’t have to be Einstein to work out it’s a very high probability they were.

Any death is terrible due to this virus.

However it's wrong to asume because someone works in a hospital they caught the infection there.

Yes a higher probability but not the only place they may have caught it.

So they work what..anything between 8 and 17 hours with infected patients..often without the necessary ppe.

And you think they picked up on The bus on the way home?

Are you implying no body has been unfortunate to catch the virus on a bus?

Nope.

I said if you worked with infected patients all day and caught the bus it's very,very unlikely you caught it on The bus.

How do you know that?

You just don'the

The point is nobody knows when they actually get it.

No we dont...but you have to admit the odds are on the workplace if...yes if they never had the required ppe..."

I've already said it was a higher probability.

But it's still not 100%.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Maybe the chap trying to refute what seems blinding obvious is a lawyer for the NHS.

seriously though. 20 minutes on the bus or 8-12 hours working in close proximity of Covid patients. I’ll take my chances in the bus thanks.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Maybe the chap trying to refute what seems blinding obvious is a lawyer for the NHS.

seriously though. 20 minutes on the bus or 8-12 hours working in close proximity of Covid patients. I’ll take my chances in the bus thanks. "

I'd hazard a guess at who he votes for.

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By *uHorny1Man over a year ago

Cannock

"Just doing the job they chose and paid for it ."

Great attitude you have there fella. I doubt that it has "you run the risk of dying as a direct result of carrying out your duties" anywhere in their contract.

Perhaps you should consider changing your username. It seems rather inappropriate under the circumstances...

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By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Maybe the chap trying to refute what seems blinding obvious is a lawyer for the NHS.

seriously though. 20 minutes on the bus or 8-12 hours working in close proximity of Covid patients. I’ll take my chances in the bus thanks.

I'd hazard a guess at who he votes for."

Seriously, you are trying to making this another political thread again!

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Maybe the chap trying to refute what seems blinding obvious is a lawyer for the NHS.

seriously though. 20 minutes on the bus or 8-12 hours working in close proximity of Covid patients. I’ll take my chances in the bus thanks.

I'd hazard a guess at who he votes for.

Seriously, you are trying to making this another political thread again!"

You are the one making callous remarks about NHS staff

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe the chap trying to refute what seems blinding obvious is a lawyer for the NHS.

seriously though. 20 minutes on the bus or 8-12 hours working in close proximity of Covid patients. I’ll take my chances in the bus thanks.

I'd hazard a guess at who he votes for.

Seriously, you are trying to making this another political thread again!"

That‘s all he does. One of the many experts on here. That know the square route of fuck all and only uses the local Labour Party rag as a Point of call...

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Maybe the chap trying to refute what seems blinding obvious is a lawyer for the NHS.

seriously though. 20 minutes on the bus or 8-12 hours working in close proximity of Covid patients. I’ll take my chances in the bus thanks.

I'd hazard a guess at who he votes for.

Seriously, you are trying to making this another political thread again!

That‘s all he does. One of the many experts on here. That know the square route of fuck all and only uses the local Labour Party rag as a Point of call... "

You agree with what he said,?

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