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over a year ago
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Some of you have relayed personal tragic stories about loved ones who are dying (in this case not of the virus but end stage of a disease).
They are dying at home but you cannot visit them because of the lockdown rules. I have the greatest empathy for you and your loved ones and, of course, those in the same household.
In the past, and possibly in the future, it has been my privilege to help people dying, to pass as peacefully as possible and support their nearest and dearest.
Even in this crisis people need support. If ever there was a reason to bend the rules, this is it. I know it cannot happen in hospitals but the nurses are insuring loved ones are not alone when they die, giving some comfort.
I just want to say to anyone in this position, talk to the community nurses, district nurses, carers, whoever is caring for loved ones, see what can be done.
My heart is with you (heart) |
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"I totally agree with the sentiment but is it really fair to put the nurse in a position where you're requesting them to break the rules they have been told to adhere to?
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It could be a case of a phonecall, Skype or something. It could be a case of letting that person say goodbye wearing ppe (ppe is double protection - protects wearer and patient from each other). |
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"Some of you have relayed personal tragic stories about loved ones who are dying (in this case not of the virus but end stage of a disease).
They are dying at home but you cannot visit them because of the lockdown rules. I have the greatest empathy for you and your loved ones and, of course, those in the same household.
In the past, and possibly in the future, it has been my privilege to help people dying, to pass as peacefully as possible and support their nearest and dearest.
Even in this crisis people need support. If ever there was a reason to bend the rules, this is it. I know it cannot happen in hospitals but the nurses are insuring loved ones are not alone when they die, giving some comfort.
I just want to say to anyone in this position, talk to the community nurses, district nurses, carers, whoever is caring for loved ones, see what can be done.
My heart is with you (heart) "
I would go further
There may be some lock down enforcement regrets at the end of the day
A very compassionate op
In the last week I am aware of a situation where the rules were bent so a son could see his dieing mother
He felt so guilty , that is so wrong
If a taxi driver can be applauded for potentially contaminating all the key workers he transports
Then an individual can certainly be safely facilitated to see their dieing relative especially in a care home
No risks need to be taken
Bear in mind I'm referring not to social visits a home would most likely need to safely prepare for one visit a month
Iv mentioned before the balance is like walking the tight rope
But if I read the OP correctly you are suggesting compassion is out there
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My father has terminal cancer and covid 19. I would do anything to see him if he was going to pass away. No one wants them to pass away on there own. Even my hubby who has a terminal lung disease has said if he and my dad were passing at the same time he would want me to be with my dad |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Some of you have relayed personal tragic stories about loved ones who are dying (in this case not of the virus but end stage of a disease).
They are dying at home but you cannot visit them because of the lockdown rules. I have the greatest empathy for you and your loved ones and, of course, those in the same household.
In the past, and possibly in the future, it has been my privilege to help people dying, to pass as peacefully as possible and support their nearest and dearest.
Even in this crisis people need support. If ever there was a reason to bend the rules, this is it. I know it cannot happen in hospitals but the nurses are insuring loved ones are not alone when they die, giving some comfort.
I just want to say to anyone in this position, talk to the community nurses, district nurses, carers, whoever is caring for loved ones, see what can be done.
My heart is with you (heart)
I would go further
There may be some lock down enforcement regrets at the end of the day
A very compassionate op
In the last week I am aware of a situation where the rules were bent so a son could see his dieing mother
He felt so guilty , that is so wrong
If a taxi driver can be applauded for potentially contaminating all the key workers he transports
Then an individual can certainly be safely facilitated to see their dieing relative especially in a care home
No risks need to be taken
Bear in mind I'm referring not to social visits a home would most likely need to safely prepare for one visit a month
Iv mentioned before the balance is like walking the tight rope
But if I read the OP correctly you are suggesting compassion is out there
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Nursing staff who give palliative care are extremely compassionate.
I was talking about people dying in their own homes but the same could be said in residential homes.
No one can foretell when death will occur, but those nursing the dying can often pick up on signs. One clear clinical signal is when the decision to stop many of the normal meds and start "just in case/anticipatory medications are started". |
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"My father has terminal cancer and covid 19. I would do anything to see him if he was going to pass away. No one wants them to pass away on there own. Even my hubby who has a terminal lung disease has said if he and my dad were passing at the same time he would want me to be with my dad "
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