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I hope the Cabinet Decide a FULL Easter Lockdown
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
No walks, no external exercise like bikes jogging, pets and essential shopping only,
All Carer, Medical and Infrastructure excused.
And a Letter from your Mum if you need anything outside of this.
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I don't think they will and all the numpties will go out to beaches and meet their friends which will result in a full lockdown...maybe 7 or 14 days. Something like this needs to happen otherwise the 1% of the population that think they know better will keep us all confined for months. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
There can't be anyone in the UK that doesn't know what the lockdown is, so maybe the Police should just hand out the fines for the whole weekend if you are found sat on a beach, sunbathing in the park etc etc etc. |
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"There can't be anyone in the UK that doesn't know what the lockdown is, so maybe the Police should just hand out the fines for the whole weekend if you are found sat on a beach, sunbathing in the park etc etc etc."
This I would agree with but make the fine £500. If they don't care about killing other people maybe they will care about the cash? |
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By *ik MMan
over a year ago
Lancashire |
I think it’s inevitable. The Manchester Evening News are reporting GMP attended almost 500 house parties last weekend. This is one extreme, there are still plenty who search for some ambiguity in current guidelines and stretch it to the maximum.
The message now has to be clear, and so do the consequences. |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
I've read that they are having a cobra meeting this morning to discuss possibly extending the knockdown from Monday.
I've just watched an update from Northants police saying that from today they will be handing out fines to people breaking the law and maybe making people go to court and end up with a criminal record. No roads blocks or going through people's trollies at supermarkets yet but that might be the next thing.
I suppose they've done it ahead of the bhol weekend to try and stop the idiots going out. Quite right to! |
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The police don’t have enough manpower to enforce a full lockdown and it’s not like there’s anyone else...yes there’s the army but it isn’t tooled up for this yet.
The full lockdown will come after this weekend |
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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
Beyond the shadows. |
"No walks, no external exercise like bikes jogging, pets and essential shopping only,
All Carer, Medical and Infrastructure excused.
And a Letter from your Mum if you need anything outside of this.
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The problem is It’s a difficult balance to achieve for a liberal democracy. This is why they are trying to encourage instead of forcing. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
local, but not too local |
"We are going to be in lockdown for months anyway , china had 11 weeks got down to zero new cases , rrelaxed restrictions and immediately had 62 new casesid look at june or july"
I think this, they’re just extending it a few weeks at a time so they get less of a pushback. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"No walks, no external exercise like bikes jogging, pets and essential shopping only,
All Carer, Medical and Infrastructure excused.
And a Letter from your Mum if you need anything outside of this.
The problem is It’s a difficult balance to achieve for a liberal democracy. This is why they are trying to encourage instead of forcing. "
I agree, but I think our Democracy is strong enough to weather an occasional Orwellian Glitch. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"I hope that too. But I'm afraid that nothing will change until Boris recovers or get replaced."
Yes I agree but lets all hope he recovers,he is a leader which is what we need,this is not about political belief it is about leadership
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"It should be a full lockdown. Too many people are breaking the rules."
Lots of people are working...its getting the balance...I havent seen too many people flouting it by ours tbh..this weekend will be a test. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"It should be a full lockdown. Too many people are breaking the rules.
Lots of people are working...its getting the balance...I havent seen too many people flouting it by ours tbh..this weekend will be a test."
I’m not talking about people working or people delivery to isolated people, I’m talking about groups hanging around together, families going to supermarkets together, youngsters in parks, people not respecting distancing when exercising etc. |
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"It should be a full lockdown. Too many people are breaking the rules.
Lots of people are working...its getting the balance...I havent seen too many people flouting it by ours tbh..this weekend will be a test.
I’m not talking about people working or people delivery to isolated people, I’m talking about groups hanging around together, families going to supermarkets together, youngsters in parks, people not respecting distancing when exercising etc. "
Like I said I havent seen too much of that but its evidentslally happening. |
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"No walks, no external exercise like bikes jogging, pets and essential shopping only,
All Carer, Medical and Infrastructure excused.
And a Letter from your Mum if you need anything outside of this.
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I hope not. I truly do hope not. |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on ."
I can see why we need passports right now. |
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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago
warwick |
"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
I can see why we need passports right now."
Well clearly we don’t need them today but we will do and you remember the trouble the last time there was a hold up and back log |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There was a house party last night one street away from me. At a student house....but i know for sure that they all (7) live there anyway. HoMO. So actually mot a problem... |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
I can see why we need passports right now.
Well clearly we don’t need them today but we will do and you remember the trouble the last time there was a hold up and back log "
There was a few delays..they are no way in the world a key worker. |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
I can see why we need passports right now.
Well clearly we don’t need them today but we will do and you remember the trouble the last time there was a hold up and back log "
I don't think any of us will be leaving the country anytime soon.
Surely this could wait a few weeks at least?
Why demand your staff come in to work right when deaths are going to hit 1000 a day in UK and we are heading toward the potential peak. It's risking lives plain and simple.
I'm a key worker myself for a council I've been redeployed to a necessary role. What I will say there's a number of managers from other areas trying to get staff to come in and work in face to face roles with the public that are totally unnecessary currently. All in the name of targets, looking good for end of year reports and probably because said managers have had enough of been at / working from home.
Stay safe
KJ x (Mr) |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
I can see why we need passports right now.
Well clearly we don’t need them today but we will do and you remember the trouble the last time there was a hold up and back log
I don't think any of us will be leaving the country anytime soon.
Surely this could wait a few weeks at least?
Why demand your staff come in to work right when deaths are going to hit 1000 a day in UK and we are heading toward the potential peak. It's risking lives plain and simple.
I'm a key worker myself for a council I've been redeployed to a necessary role. What I will say there's a number of managers from other areas trying to get staff to come in and work in face to face roles with the public that are totally unnecessary currently. All in the name of targets, looking good for end of year reports and probably because said managers have had enough of been at / working from home.
Stay safe
KJ x (Mr) "
There is an easy answer to your 3rd paragraph.
Already showing their true colours. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
I can see why we need passports right now.
Well clearly we don’t need them today but we will do and you remember the trouble the last time there was a hold up and back log
I don't think any of us will be leaving the country anytime soon.
Surely this could wait a few weeks at least?
Why demand your staff come in to work right when deaths are going to hit 1000 a day in UK and we are heading toward the potential peak. It's risking lives plain and simple.
I'm a key worker myself for a council I've been redeployed to a necessary role. What I will say there's a number of managers from other areas trying to get staff to come in and work in face to face roles with the public that are totally unnecessary currently. All in the name of targets, looking good for end of year reports and probably because said managers have had enough of been at / working from home.
Stay safe
KJ x (Mr)
There is an easy answer to your 3rd paragraph.
Already showing their true colours."
They certainly are but I have a feeling in a few years when everything is all said and done there will be a reckoning and we will see inquiries into some of the choices people in positions of power made and the human cost of some of those decisions.
Stay safe
KJ x (Mr) |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
I can see why we need passports right now.
Well clearly we don’t need them today but we will do and you remember the trouble the last time there was a hold up and back log
I don't think any of us will be leaving the country anytime soon.
Surely this could wait a few weeks at least?
Why demand your staff come in to work right when deaths are going to hit 1000 a day in UK and we are heading toward the potential peak. It's risking lives plain and simple.
I'm a key worker myself for a council I've been redeployed to a necessary role. What I will say there's a number of managers from other areas trying to get staff to come in and work in face to face roles with the public that are totally unnecessary currently. All in the name of targets, looking good for end of year reports and probably because said managers have had enough of been at / working from home.
Stay safe
KJ x (Mr)
There is an easy answer to your 3rd paragraph.
Already showing their true colours.
They certainly are but I have a feeling in a few years when everything is all said and done there will be a reckoning and we will see inquiries into some of the choices people in positions of power made and the human cost of some of those decisions.
Stay safe
KJ x (Mr) "
You have a lot more faith than me. |
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I see the Philippine police have been told they should shoot anyone flouting coronavirus rules who argues with them.
So to the people who have convinced themselves that our civil liberties are under threat in this country, just be thankful. |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on ."
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not! |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not! "
But we need those passports! |
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Not popular to say but other than to reduce the load on the NHS (which could have been done by funding it properly in the first place and just isolating the vulnerable sectors of society) the lockdown is pointless and just crashing the economy.
Because the simple fact is that the moment it does end cases will rise again because the large majority of the population remains uninfected.
BTW I'm just quoting an Associate Professor in Mathematics at Carnegie Mellon University.
"The duration of containment efforts does not matter, if transmission rates return to normal when they end, and mortality rates have not improved. This is simply because as long as a large majority of the population remains uninfected, lifting containment measures will lead to an epidemic almost as large as would happen without having mitigations in place at all."
If you want to read more Google for his paper
"A call to honesty in pandemic modeling" - Maria Chikina and Wesley Pegden |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not! "
The death rate is nowhere near 12 %, currently it's around 2 to 3 and that doesn't include the 50 % that show no symptoms at all, scare mongering isnt helpful |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
Disapointing daily brief . . .
'Dominic Raab has said the UK "must keep going" with lockdown measures as he warned against giving coronavirus "a second chance to kill more people".
The foreign secretary, speaking at Downing Street's daily briefing, said the government did not expect to be able to give more details on when coronavirus lockdown measures might be lifted until the end of next week.
He said social distancing "will have to stay in place" until there was evidence that "clearly shows we've moved beyond the peak" of the COVID-19 outbreak.
"We are not done yet. We must keep going," Mr Raab said.'
SkyNews.
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not!
The death rate is nowhere near 12 %, currently it's around 2 to 3 and that doesn't include the 50 % that show no symptoms at all, scare mongering isnt helpful"
Official figures at 06.00hrs this morning showed 60733 cases and 7097 deaths which is just shy of 12% not scaremongering just plain facts. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not!
The death rate is nowhere near 12 %, currently it's around 2 to 3 and that doesn't include the 50 % that show no symptoms at all, scare mongering isnt helpful
Official figures at 06.00hrs this morning showed 60733 cases and 7097 deaths which is just shy of 12% not scaremongering just plain facts."
Rubbish, that is people who have been tested, very few are and around 50% have no symptoms at all, |
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"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not!
The death rate is nowhere near 12 %, currently it's around 2 to 3 and that doesn't include the 50 % that show no symptoms at all, scare mongering isnt helpful
Official figures at 06.00hrs this morning showed 60733 cases and 7097 deaths which is just shy of 12% not scaremongering just plain facts."
But people are not being tested, even when they have cler symptoms, so the statistics are in no way accurate.
You can't come to any conclusions without accurate data to work with. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
Wakefield |
"It should be a full lockdown. Too many people are breaking the rules."
Some people need to get out for exercise even Matt Hancock has repeated that.
In addition the law would have to be changed as that is included in the reasons for going out |
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"That priti Patel is 1 evil cunt.
Quite the charmer aren't you! 
Well if the cap fits.
They don't make a hat big enough for that type of language about people."
That priti patel is really a most unagreeable type of person. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"That priti Patel is 1 evil cunt.
Quite the charmer aren't you!
Well if the cap fits.
They don't make a hat big enough for that type of language about people.
That priti patel is really a most unagreeable type of person."
See. It's not that hard to be kind and have an alternative opinion. |
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At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope... |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
most fundamental aspects |
"Have a look at the bbc news the world in lockdown in maps and charts page, I'm rubbish with links, it shows all countries and what lockdowns and when they did it, makes for interesting reading"
Thank you for the heads up. I just whiled away the last half hour studying all the differences.
What I’d have liked to see were the countries with different levels of lockdown. The Uk is not on lockdown by comparison to other countries where outside exercise is not allowed and only one person from each household is allowed out to do essential shopping. Not mentioned in the piece but that’s what Malaysia has (and others but I’m on the phone daily to there)
The UK couldn’t handle a full lockdown like above. We wouldn’t have been able to handle the restrictions now if they hadn’t been phased in.
Phased panic as I’ve said a few times. It’s the frog in the pot of water effect |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope..."
People have died with no underlying issues. |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues."
Based on what? As they aren’t doing autopsies... |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
Based on what? As they aren’t doing autopsies..."
Perhaps the NHS have access to their records? |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues."
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues. |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues. "
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it. |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues.
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it."
I agree, but ‘some’ people are probably naive and Blasé about their own health . |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues.
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it."
Like the incredibly healthy footballers who die on the pitch (or nearly do) from unknown heart problems (Fabrice Muamba and Marc Vivien Foe for example). The millions of people who while otherwise healthy find out they have cancer etc. If you go to hospital with this virus, they won’t have time to check for all possible health conditions, they can only treat you for what they see. |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not!
The death rate is nowhere near 12 %, currently it's around 2 to 3 and that doesn't include the 50 % that show no symptoms at all, scare mongering isnt helpful
Official figures at 06.00hrs this morning showed 60733 cases and 7097 deaths which is just shy of 12% not scaremongering just plain facts.
Rubbish, that is people who have been tested, very few are and around 50% have no symptoms at all, "
So your knowledge is greater than the Government who issued those official figure on confirmed cases and deaths as at 06.00 hrs this morning.
The number of people tested up to 0600 this morning was 282.000. Not rubbish but official facts. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"I think we should all get back to work ASAP, the Home Office have said this to Passport offices, and they told them governments know 80% of people will catch it , so we just have to get on .
As a matter of interest the population of UK is 66.000.000 at 80% means that 52.800.000 will catch the virus. With the death rate currently at 12% of the cases that means we can expect 6.336.000 people to die
I think not!
The death rate is nowhere near 12 %, currently it's around 2 to 3 and that doesn't include the 50 % that show no symptoms at all, scare mongering isnt helpful
Official figures at 06.00hrs this morning showed 60733 cases and 7097 deaths which is just shy of 12% not scaremongering just plain facts.
Rubbish, that is people who have been tested, very few are and around 50% have no symptoms at all, So your knowledge is greater than the Government who issued those official figure on confirmed cases and deaths as at 06.00 hrs this morning.
The number of people tested up to 0600 this morning was 282.000. Not rubbish but official facts."
The number tested is very small compared to the number who have been infected |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues.
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it.
Like the incredibly healthy footballers who die on the pitch (or nearly do) from unknown heart problems (Fabrice Muamba and Marc Vivien Foe for example). The millions of people who while otherwise healthy find out they have cancer etc. If you go to hospital with this virus, they won’t have time to check for all possible health conditions, they can only treat you for what they see."
Footballers who die on the pitch are very..very rare.
People who find out they have cancer...er..know they have cancer?I'm not saying it doesnt happen..I'm saying it's quite rare. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues.
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it."
Most would but I know two people who appeared fit and healthy, did active jobs etc and went to the doc and were dead in under three weeks from cancer they didnt know they had, this virus seems to be very bad for those with diabetes, lots of people are sub clinical diabetics and dont know, but there will always be those with no health issues that succumb, especially if they get a very high viral load such as doctors and nurses |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues.
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it.
Most would but I know two people who appeared fit and healthy, did active jobs etc and went to the doc and were dead in under three weeks from cancer they didnt know they had, this virus seems to be very bad for those with diabetes, lots of people are sub clinical diabetics and dont know, but there will always be those with no health issues that succumb, especially if they get a very high viral load such as doctors and nurses"
Like I said most not all.
The original op said the underlying condition kills you..not the virus. |
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"At the end of the day the government need people to pass it on to other people. I cant really see them restricting people further. They actually want that 5% of people breaking the rules to slowly spread the virus. The more people that catch it at a controlled rate the better. The virus itself does not kill you. It is underlying health conditions. The people dying from it could well have died from any other flu variation. Yes it’s sad people are dying, yes it would be devastating if a family member passed away from it, but if the virus isn’t allowed to spread it could come back with a vengeance in 6 months or a year and we’d have to start again. I know this won’t be a popular opinion but that’s life. Herd immunity is needed in the long term, which will then be accompanied by regular flu/Coronavirus jabs for those susceptible to it (assuming this is something you can get more than once). The only thing the lockdown does is slow the spread and enable the poorly funded NHS to cope...
People have died with no underlying issues.
I think you mean with no ‘known’ underlying issues.
If you had an understanding health issue..something serious..most would know about it.
Most would but I know two people who appeared fit and healthy, did active jobs etc and went to the doc and were dead in under three weeks from cancer they didnt know they had, this virus seems to be very bad for those with diabetes, lots of people are sub clinical diabetics and dont know, but there will always be those with no health issues that succumb, especially if they get a very high viral load such as doctors and nurses
Like I said most not all.
The original op said the underlying condition kills you..not the virus."
Which is correct. A high 90% of those that will die, will be from complications due to the virus, not the virus. Heart, lung and kidney failure, pneumonia and chest infections - none of these are symptoms of the virus - but can be caused by it.
The actual symptoms, the cough, fever, lack of taste and smell, chills, aches and pains and fatigue are highly unlikely to kill you. At least 50% of people will be asymptomatic of have very mild symptoms, some will be naturally immune, some will have strong symptoms and sadly some people will suffer complications and die.
All anyone can do is try their best to stay in as much as possible, clean, sanitise and anti-bac, protect the vulnerable and hope and pray that they and their loved ones come through this. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"No walks, no external exercise like bikes jogging, pets and essential shopping only,
All Carer, Medical and Infrastructure excused.
And a Letter from your Mum if you need anything outside of this.
I hope not. I truly do hope not. "
So do I, a full lockdown would quite possibly make things worse not better.
I'm.just glad that the Home Secretary has slapped down the overzealous police chief who was threatening to search people's shopping trolleys. |
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