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"The true impact on martality won't be known for 2 years. Because we are not testing everyone or including those who die at home or in care homes, the only way to get any indication is to look at the statistical increase in average mortality, and that can't be done until next year at the earliest " Your probably right but definitely doesn't look to great at the moment does it. We just want for people that ain't taking this very serious too really take it seriously and stop putting others in danger | |||
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"Just been to the shops. Last week they had people on the door only letting one in one out. Today it was back to being a free for all. I think people have started to take it even less seriously. " Doesn't help when it's been made out to be just like the flu what bull crap that is. Never seen totally world lockdown and medical staff dropping down and dieing from any type of flu before. Only flu that comes even close to mind is the Spanish flu which killed between 40-100 million people and with that 40% died from a bacterial infection after it | |||
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"Unfortunately both of these figures are no more than guess work due to the huge variability of testing in different countries. While there is NO DOUBT that this virus is serious and deadly testing has not been representative of populations. E.g in UK testing is only carried out on patients already showing symptoms serious enough to be taken into hospital....hence our mortality rate shows much higher (around 10%) Germany have done far more extensive testing...including many younger "patients" so their mortality rate is nearer to 1%. Please be very wary of raw statistics..." True not enough testing is being done but it definitely doesn't look good when you look at the worldwide reported of confirmed close cases so far which says 21% are dead. We definitely hope that it does decrease big time | |||
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"On it !! Just wish so many others were." We just want to make sure that everyone takes this virus seriously and stay safe.  Glad to hear that some people are taking this seriously | |||
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"On it !! Just wish so many others were. We just want to make sure that everyone takes this virus seriously and stay safe. Glad to hear that some people are taking this seriously " | |||
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. " you stay safe too | |||
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. " I don’t feel ignorant to the fatality rates. I know each country is recording it slightly differently but I think it’s fairly transparent here. NHS England has the statistics for each hospital authority, each region, age groups. I find that very informative. | |||
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. I don’t feel ignorant to the fatality rates. I know each country is recording it slightly differently but I think it’s fairly transparent here. NHS England has the statistics for each hospital authority, each region, age groups. I find that very informative. " Our recording methodology in uk is as flawed as is many of our counterparts...... So much guessing and forecasting.......only time will tell for sure | |||
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. I don’t feel ignorant to the fatality rates. I know each country is recording it slightly differently but I think it’s fairly transparent here. NHS England has the statistics for each hospital authority, each region, age groups. I find that very informative. Our recording methodology in uk is as flawed as is many of our counterparts...... So much guessing and forecasting.......only time will tell for sure " I wouldn’t call it flawed. They are dealing with it all as it happens, after this I’m sure figures will be analysed slightly differently but for now I think although there is a lag in the information we are pretty well informed. | |||
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. I don’t feel ignorant to the fatality rates. I know each country is recording it slightly differently but I think it’s fairly transparent here. NHS England has the statistics for each hospital authority, each region, age groups. I find that very informative. Our recording methodology in uk is as flawed as is many of our counterparts...... So much guessing and forecasting.......only time will tell for sure I wouldn’t call it flawed. They are dealing with it all as it happens, after this I’m sure figures will be analysed slightly differently but for now I think although there is a lag in the information we are pretty well informed. " We will see..........think actions being taken by gov are more indicative | |||
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"True not enough testing is being done but it definitely doesn't look good when you look at the worldwide reported of confirmed close cases so far which says 21% are dead. We definitely hope that it does decrease big time " this doesnt work as a figure as we dont know how many people have had the virus and dont know they have had it. | |||
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"True not enough testing is being done but it definitely doesn't look good when you look at the worldwide reported of confirmed close cases so far which says 21% are dead. We definitely hope that it does decrease big time this doesnt work as a figure as we dont know how many people have had the virus and dont know they have had it. " True but by the figures of confirmed closed cases it doesn't look great We just want everyone to take it seriously and to protect themselves, their loved ones and others. | |||
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"True not enough testing is being done but it definitely doesn't look good when you look at the worldwide reported of confirmed close cases so far which says 21% are dead. We definitely hope that it does decrease big time this doesnt work as a figure as we dont know how many people have had the virus and dont know they have had it. True but by the figures of confirmed closed cases it doesn't look great We just want everyone to take it seriously and to protect themselves, their loved ones and others." but the fact is that till if they test people for antibodies they wont know how many have had it. And the true mortality rate could be much lower... and the thing is many are dying with covid 19 which is different | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. " Remember......we do not know the real stats so any comments on here should be read as someones own perspective and not proven...same as what you read in the media.... | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. " Good to know that you are taking it seriously. Yeah we know that it's not going to be the final Mortality rate as it goes up and down all the time and their ain't enough testing being done worldwide to know the true figures of the amount of people that has been infected and that have died from it. But going by the data of the confirmed closed cases worldwide 21% of the people are dead. We probably should of worded it abit better like 21% of all officially know worldwide closed cases have died or something like that lol. We just want people that ain't taking it seriously to wake up and stop putting themselves, their loved ones and others in danger by deciding to travel from one end of the country to the other to go wind surfing, hiking, ect | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. Good to know that you are taking it seriously. Yeah we know that it's not going to be the final Mortality rate as it goes up and down all the time and their ain't enough testing being done worldwide to know the true figures of the amount of people that has been infected and that have died from it. But going by the data of the confirmed closed cases worldwide 21% of the people are dead. We probably should of worded it abit better like 21% of all officially know worldwide closed cases have died or something like that lol. We just want people that ain't taking it seriously to wake up and stop putting themselves, their loved ones and others in danger by deciding to travel from one end of the country to the other to go wind surfing, hiking, ect " Unless you can evidence or substantiate....figures shouldnt be banded about......there are some people who would believe what they read and make decisions based on it......The mental states of people are at all time highs!! | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. Good to know that you are taking it seriously. Yeah we know that it's not going to be the final Mortality rate as it goes up and down all the time and their ain't enough testing being done worldwide to know the true figures of the amount of people that has been infected and that have died from it. But going by the data of the confirmed closed cases worldwide 21% of the people are dead. We probably should of worded it abit better like 21% of all officially know worldwide closed cases have died or something like that lol. We just want people that ain't taking it seriously to wake up and stop putting themselves, their loved ones and others in danger by deciding to travel from one end of the country to the other to go wind surfing, hiking, ect Unless you can evidence or substantiate....figures shouldnt be banded about......there are some people who would believe what they read and make decisions based on it......The mental states of people are at all time highs!!" The figures are on the worldometer website of the amount of people that have died from the amount of confirmed close cases worldwide and it clearly shows that 21% of the people are dead. Don't get us wrong many of them have had underlying health problems but at the sometime you can't really say that if they didn't get the virus they would still be dead because we don't know that | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. Good to know that you are taking it seriously. Yeah we know that it's not going to be the final Mortality rate as it goes up and down all the time and their ain't enough testing being done worldwide to know the true figures of the amount of people that has been infected and that have died from it. But going by the data of the confirmed closed cases worldwide 21% of the people are dead. We probably should of worded it abit better like 21% of all officially know worldwide closed cases have died or something like that lol. We just want people that ain't taking it seriously to wake up and stop putting themselves, their loved ones and others in danger by deciding to travel from one end of the country to the other to go wind surfing, hiking, ect Unless you can evidence or substantiate....figures shouldnt be banded about......there are some people who would believe what they read and make decisions based on it......The mental states of people are at all time highs!! The figures are on the worldometer website of the amount of people that have died from the amount of confirmed close cases worldwide and it clearly shows that 21% of the people are dead. Don't get us wrong many of them have had underlying health problems but at the sometime you can't really say that if they didn't get the virus they would still be dead because we don't know that " Ffs stop quoting what you dont understand......im sure on facebook youll find a someones version that 5g masts are to blame | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment " There are also far more people that have had it an recovered than have been recorded. The death toll includes anyone who died WITH covid-19, not OF it. The mortality rate will not be accurate and complete until the pandemic is over, there's no point speculating because nobody really has any idea. | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment There are also far more people that have had it an recovered than have been recorded. The death toll includes anyone who died WITH covid-19, not OF it. The mortality rate will not be accurate and complete until the pandemic is over, there's no point speculating because nobody really has any idea. " | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment " Do you have a reputable source for you 21% mortality rate? | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. Good to know that you are taking it seriously. Yeah we know that it's not going to be the final Mortality rate as it goes up and down all the time and their ain't enough testing being done worldwide to know the true figures of the amount of people that has been infected and that have died from it. But going by the data of the confirmed closed cases worldwide 21% of the people are dead. We probably should of worded it abit better like 21% of all officially know worldwide closed cases have died or something like that lol. We just want people that ain't taking it seriously to wake up and stop putting themselves, their loved ones and others in danger by deciding to travel from one end of the country to the other to go wind surfing, hiking, ect Unless you can evidence or substantiate....figures shouldnt be banded about......there are some people who would believe what they read and make decisions based on it......The mental states of people are at all time highs!! The figures are on the worldometer website of the amount of people that have died from the amount of confirmed close cases worldwide and it clearly shows that 21% of the people are dead. Don't get us wrong many of them have had underlying health problems but at the sometime you can't really say that if they didn't get the virus they would still be dead because we don't know that Ffs stop quoting what you dont understand......im sure on facebook youll find a someones version that 5g masts are to blame" Maybe we don't truly understand it all And time will really tell the true outcome and the true figure on the Mortality rate but at the same time you can't deny that it doesn't show that data at the moment on the worldometer website of the outcome so far. You seem to be such a expert on the matter I don't see why don't you go to one of the really affected hospitals and see about getting the virus to see if it's as little of a Mortality rate as you think. But then again what if I'm right your chances of walking out the other end look abit slimmer. Do you really want to take that gamble of who's right | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment Do you have a reputable source for you 21% mortality rate?" We probably should of worded it abit different but if you go on the worldometer website that's where it clearly shows that 21% of the closed cases worldwide are dead | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment Do you have a reputable source for you 21% mortality rate? We probably should of worded it abit different but if you go on the worldometer website that's where it clearly shows that 21% of the closed cases worldwide are dead" Is that a reputable source though? | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment Do you have a reputable source for you 21% mortality rate? We probably should of worded it abit different but if you go on the worldometer website that's where it clearly shows that 21% of the closed cases worldwide are dead Is that a reputable source though?" Well that's not the only site that shows it either | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment Do you have a reputable source for you 21% mortality rate? We probably should of worded it abit different but if you go on the worldometer website that's where it clearly shows that 21% of the closed cases worldwide are dead Is that a reputable source though? Well that's not the only site that shows it either " I'm sure it's not but is it a more reliable source than WHO? | |||
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"Uk is about 9.1% per 100,000 Italy is l think 27.3% per 100,000 Spain 29.5 per 100,000 They are per 100,000 not the population. To me, it might only be me, there is a shit load of made up misinformation around this and these elements are not helping. " We probably should of worded everything abit different but we was just looking at the outcome of the worldwide closed cases on the worldometer website that shows 21% of the people have died. It also shows it on a few other sites but I can't remember their names off the top of my head. We are just trying to make sure that others do know how serious this is and to stop putting themselves,their loved ones and others in stupid danger by travelling from one end of the country to the other to go wind surfing, hiking, ect | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment Do you have a reputable source for you 21% mortality rate? We probably should of worded it abit different but if you go on the worldometer website that's where it clearly shows that 21% of the closed cases worldwide are dead Is that a reputable source though? Well that's not the only site that shows it either I'm sure it's not but is it a more reliable source than WHO?" Do you really trust the World Health Organisation after all they had the information and data from the SARS leak which spread to 7 different countries. If they and the Chinese government had done their jobs properly it wouldn't be a global pandemic but that's another story | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? " I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so" Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? " Ain't heard that yet but it really wouldn't surprise us if that was the case. We hope that we are totally wrong and that it's a better outcome but to us the whole thing stinks. Know one even knows the true origin of it yet funny that | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk" Bloody hell that's abit scary | |||
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"After 911 i went down a few rabbit holes regarding conspiracys. One of them was the new world order that have an agenda of a one world goverment, cashless society, depopulation, seen goerge bush senior and junior in their speeches calling out for a one world goverment amongst others. This week gordan brown, tony blair, bill gates, henry kissanger all said that we need a "global goverment" to deal with this. I never really paid much attention to it because i thought no way would they be able to implement it and people wouldnt allow it. Now having seen the covid 19 bill that passed last week and what these people are saying, its like it could well be a possibility. I am watching all this very carefully and questioning everything. " | |||
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"After 911 i went down a few rabbit holes regarding conspiracys. One of them was the new world order that have an agenda of a one world goverment, cashless society, depopulation, seen goerge bush senior and junior in their speeches calling out for a one world goverment amongst others. This week gordan brown, tony blair, bill gates, henry kissanger all said that we need a "global goverment" to deal with this. I never really paid much attention to it because i thought no way would they be able to implement it and people wouldnt allow it. Now having seen the covid 19 bill that passed last week and what these people are saying, its like it could well be a possibility. I am watching all this very carefully and questioning everything. " We all know that you can't trust mainstream media and our governments just to name a few without getting to much backlash lol All lie and can not be trusted one bit | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment There are also far more people that have had it an recovered than have been recorded. The death toll includes anyone who died WITH covid-19, not OF it. The mortality rate will not be accurate and complete until the pandemic is over, there's no point speculating because nobody really has any idea. " Maybe but you can say that for the deaths because the Chinese government are probably lying about their figures Can't really trust Iran to be honest with their same as north Korea, ect Plus Italy have said that they haven't got enough resources to test everyone that has died so not 100% accurate their. Then it's also the point of when it was officially about which was November or December 2019 so possible thousands of more people have died and because know about this virus they wasn't tested and thought to of died from other things like the seasonal flu | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so" I don't know but if that is the case that is some scary shit and we all need to stay safe | |||
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"After 911 i went down a few rabbit holes regarding conspiracys. One of them was the new world order that have an agenda of a one world goverment, cashless society, depopulation, seen goerge bush senior and junior in their speeches calling out for a one world goverment amongst others. This week gordan brown, tony blair, bill gates, henry kissanger all said that we need a "global goverment" to deal with this. I never really paid much attention to it because i thought no way would they be able to implement it and people wouldnt allow it. Now having seen the covid 19 bill that passed last week and what these people are saying, its like it could well be a possibility. I am watching all this very carefully and questioning everything. " Which parts of the covid bill in particular do you think make "it" possibility? | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk" Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? " Complete nonsense. The WHO has no powers to do this. More unsubstantiated Icke-esque panic mongering | |||
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"After 911 i went down a few rabbit holes regarding conspiracys. One of them was the new world order that have an agenda of a one world goverment, cashless society, depopulation, seen goerge bush senior and junior in their speeches calling out for a one world goverment amongst others. This week gordan brown, tony blair, bill gates, henry kissanger all said that we need a "global goverment" to deal with this. I never really paid much attention to it because i thought no way would they be able to implement it and people wouldnt allow it. Now having seen the covid 19 bill that passed last week and what these people are saying, its like it could well be a possibility. I am watching all this very carefully and questioning everything. We all know that you can't trust mainstream media and our governments just to name a few without getting to much backlash lol All lie and can not be trusted one bit " Conspiracy theorists of world unite. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere?" Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? Complete nonsense. The WHO has no powers to do this. More unsubstantiated Icke-esque panic mongering " I suggest you read the 360 page covid 19 bill that passed. Its now perfectly legal for anyone to be detained if suspected of having the virus. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that." Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work? | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work?" Ummm it was fox newa yes but they literally showed the footage of the head of WHO talking, saying those words from his own mouth. So does it really matter which news it was on, whether its bbc, sky, cnn its still the video from WHO. Im confused what your getting at? I dont trust any news but they literally show the video of him saying it. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? Complete nonsense. The WHO has no powers to do this. More unsubstantiated Icke-esque panic mongering I suggest you read the 360 page covid 19 bill that passed. Its now perfectly legal for anyone to be detained if suspected of having the virus. " I have a copy of the bill on my desk at work but have only read the bits relevant to my job. If you could point me to the section that is the starting point for the new world order you've linked with it, that would be ace.
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work?" Just be honest mate you didnt watch the video. Thats fine. Its no skin of my nose. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work? Ummm it was fox newa yes but they literally showed the footage of the head of WHO talking, saying those words from his own mouth. So does it really matter which news it was on, whether its bbc, sky, cnn its still the video from WHO. Im confused what your getting at? I dont trust any news but they literally show the video of him saying it. " So you don't trust the news? Except the news about the WHO having the global power to enter homes and remove people? | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? Complete nonsense. The WHO has no powers to do this. More unsubstantiated Icke-esque panic mongering I suggest you read the 360 page covid 19 bill that passed. Its now perfectly legal for anyone to be detained if suspected of having the virus. I have a copy of the bill on my desk at work but have only read the bits relevant to my job. If you could point me to the section that is the starting point for the new world order you've linked with it, that would be ace.
And the power to detain is, I believe very much linked to behaviour andva refusal to quarantine/isolate isn't it?"Dude you wont even watch a video clip if you think im going to open up my search engine and going through the 360 pages to find you the part you need then think again. You have the covid 19 bill on your desk then i suggest you read it all instead of asking people to do it for you. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work? Just be honest mate you didnt watch the video. Thats fine. Its no skin of my nose." I've already said I'm not watching a fox news clip. There must be a second source, somewhere in the world? | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? Complete nonsense. The WHO has no powers to do this. More unsubstantiated Icke-esque panic mongering I suggest you read the 360 page covid 19 bill that passed. Its now perfectly legal for anyone to be detained if suspected of having the virus. I have a copy of the bill on my desk at work but have only read the bits relevant to my job. If you could point me to the section that is the starting point for the new world order you've linked with it, that would be ace.
And the power to detain is, I believe very much linked to behaviour andva refusal to quarantine/isolate isn't it?
Dude you wont even watch a video clip if you think im going to open up my search engine and going through the 360 pages to find you the part you need then think again.
You have the covid 19 bill on your desk then i suggest you read it all instead of asking people to do it for you.
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work? Ummm it was fox newa yes but they literally showed the footage of the head of WHO talking, saying those words from his own mouth. So does it really matter which news it was on, whether its bbc, sky, cnn its still the video from WHO. Im confused what your getting at? I dont trust any news but they literally show the video of him saying it. So you don't trust the news? Except the news about the WHO having the global power to enter homes and remove people? " Are you suggesting that the head of WHO didnt say about entering peoples homes and removing them if suspected of having the virus? Well its right there for you to watch and see for yourself. Do they have the power to do so, no. Do goverments have the power to do so. Yes. Is the WHO collaberating with goverments all over and advising them. Yes. Listen i hope your right and im wrong and ill be delighted if when all this is over you can say to me "told you so" as ill be more than happy in the knowledge i let my lack of trust in goverments and media make me paranoid. Honestly i do hope im wrong 100%. | |||
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"After 911 i went down a few rabbit holes regarding conspiracys. One of them was the new world order that have an agenda of a one world goverment, cashless society, depopulation, seen goerge bush senior and junior in their speeches calling out for a one world goverment amongst others. This week gordan brown, tony blair, bill gates, henry kissanger all said that we need a "global goverment" to deal with this. I never really paid much attention to it because i thought no way would they be able to implement it and people wouldnt allow it. Now having seen the covid 19 bill that passed last week and what these people are saying, its like it could well be a possibility. I am watching all this very carefully and questioning everything. " | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk Do you have like, I dunno, a reliable news source this rather than a youtube clip? Do the WHO have the sort of jurisdiction to do this anywhere, nevermind everywhere? Did you not watch the clip? Its from fox news that shows a clip of the head of WHO talking saying "the virus has been pushed back into the fanily home, we know have to go into the fanilys home and find the sick and remove them in a safe and digified manner" words to that efcect Come on buddy its a video thats on less than 2 mins just watch it, ive no idea why everyones scared of you tube. Does it matter where the video is from if its footage of the person in question talking with his own words. Do the WHO have jurisdiction you ask, prob not but they are working with and advising goverments and the 360 page bill that passed last week would cover that. Yes bit I'm asking you for a reputable media source and Fox News really dont fit in to that do they? But as you seem to believe it can you explain how it would work? Just be honest mate you didnt watch the video. Thats fine. Its no skin of my nose. I've already said I'm not watching a fox news clip. There must be a second source, somewhere in the world? " No actualy what you said was "im not watching a you tube clip" Which youve now changed to "not watching fox clip". Thats fine...tell you what why dont you google search the micheal ryan from WHO and search for his speech he made last week about entering homes. Whats that? No you dont want to? Didnt think so. Listen just listen to your sqaure box with bbc or sky news to tell you what to think and go on your door step and "clap for boris". Im done here i got no time for people that cant go look up things for themselves. | |||
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"The infected numbers worldwide are approaching 1.5 million (recorded NOT actual) So have 300,000 died ? That's 20%, right ? " it's 21% out of the closed cases worldwide have died. Have a look at the worldometer website and you'll see what we are on about | |||
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"The infected numbers worldwide are approaching 1.5 million (recorded NOT actual) So have 300,000 died ? That's 20%, right ? it's 21% out of the closed cases worldwide have died. Have a look at the worldometer website and you'll see what we are on about " Still spouting the same figure over and over again...., please explain how they come about these figures and the assumptions behind them..................i feel we will be waiting a long time......remember to ensure you check what you type or bits you might miss.......or not understand | |||
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" Honestly i do hope im wrong 100%. Don't worry, you are" Hope so, guess we will find out soon enough. Doesnt help when weve got elites calling for a global goverment or one of the heads at WHO talking about entering the fanily homes. This isnt fiction these are facts that have all been said this week. | |||
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Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
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" Honestly i do hope im wrong 100%. Don't worry, you are Hope so, guess we will find out soon enough. Doesnt help when weve got elites calling for a global goverment or one of the heads at WHO talking about entering the fanily homes. This isnt fiction these are facts that have all been said this week. " To be fair you’ve used quite a lot of artistic licence in saying “WHO entering family homes” That’s not really what they said exactly - you have taken the suggestion of ‘community’ and expanded that to mean people’s homes . | |||
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment " Pie in the sky it is impossible to answer this question | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'? "Hello Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing. So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on. Fuck me some people are fucking dense. "Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
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" Honestly i do hope im wrong 100%. Don't worry, you are Hope so, guess we will find out soon enough. Doesnt help when weve got elites calling for a global goverment or one of the heads at WHO talking about entering the fanily homes. This isnt fiction these are facts that have all been said this week. To be fair you’ve used quite a lot of artistic licence in saying “WHO entering family homes” That’s not really what they said exactly - you have taken the suggestion of ‘community’ and expanded that to mean people’s homes ." Well lets qoute the guy in his own words shall we. "For most parts of the world due to lock down, most of the transmissions thats happening in most countrys now, is happening in the house hold at family level. In some senses its been taken of the streets and pushed back into the family units. Now we need to go look into familys and find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them...in a safe and dignified manner". So please tell me who i expanded it to homea from community?? Tell you somthing im never posting a youtube link again as your all to fucking lazy to copy and paste it into your browser and watch a 2 min video. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
Ow my days...."Haha sorry
I never hardly swear but some people on this site just take the p..s
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
Ow my days....
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Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
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" "Ow my days" was aimed at you...... I know it was henced why i wrote sorry for the language and rant. As i assumed thats why you said ow my days lol " Nice try at a recovery.......got to give you that | |||
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Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol. "Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage. What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox. See how stupid you sound? If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt. You probably still don't understand. | |||
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" "Ow my days" was aimed at you...... I know it was henced why i wrote sorry for the language and rant. As i assumed thats why you said ow my days lol Nice try at a recovery.......got to give you that " Why do i need a recovery? Are You saying that I'm in the wrong and that because the you tube clip was of FOX but showing the actual footage of the head of WHO saying the things he said is all fake? Just because fox seema to be the only channel that aired it? What ever lol | |||
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" Honestly i do hope im wrong 100%. Don't worry, you are Hope so, guess we will find out soon enough. Doesnt help when weve got elites calling for a global goverment or one of the heads at WHO talking about entering the fanily homes. This isnt fiction these are facts that have all been said this week. " Yes prime minister. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
"Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time... | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk" At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time..."Wait what?? Have you got the right person? Ive not mentioned any facts or figures once in this thread. Yup definitely got the wrong guy. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
Wait what??
Have you got the right person?
Ive not mentioned any facts or figures once in this thread.
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic. "They said remove family members "safely and dignified" what if family refuses to let them take a family member? The next step would be force would it not? Thats what the news reporter suggested, and this is the debate i was looking for to start with. How would people react if someone came to remove a family member, would you allow it, reaist it? If resisted would they leave it at that or would force be used? Obviously hypothetical at this time because these measures arnt being implemented but its the fact that the head of WHO was talking about it i feel important to get others views in it. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic.
They said remove family members "safely and dignified" what if family refuses to let them take a family member? The next step would be force would it not? Thats what the news reporter suggested, and this is the debate i was looking for to start with.
How would people react if someone came to remove a family member, would you allow it, reaist it? If resisted would they leave it at that or would force be used?
Obviously hypothetical at this time because these measures arnt being implemented but its the fact that the head of WHO was talking about it i feel important to get others views in it."Message me when this actually starts to happen.......when are they going to Boris s....? | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
Wait what??
Have you got the right person?
Ive not mentioned any facts or figures once in this thread.
Yup definitely got the wrong guy.
Lol your a one"You've lost me 
Your waiting for mw to explain all these facts and figures ive qouted??
Which facts and figures are you reffering to?
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic.
They said remove family members "safely and dignified" what if family refuses to let them take a family member? The next step would be force would it not? Thats what the news reporter suggested, and this is the debate i was looking for to start with.
How would people react if someone came to remove a family member, would you allow it, reaist it? If resisted would they leave it at that or would force be used?
Obviously hypothetical at this time because these measures arnt being implemented but its the fact that the head of WHO was talking about it i feel important to get others views in it."And another hypothetical Why would they take one family member who is infected when in all likelihood the whole family would be infected. By the way ... My hypothetical is much more likely than your hypothetical Night night don't let the bed bugs bite | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
Wait what??
Have you got the right person?
Ive not mentioned any facts or figures once in this thread.
Yup definitely got the wrong guy.
Lol your a one
You've lost me
Your waiting for mw to explain all these facts and figures ive qouted??
Which facts and figures are you reffering to?
Maybe scroll up and check the persons name who you are wanting to get your facts and figures from because it certainly isn't me. "If you scroll up youll see the asking for facts was for someone else........the one for you was "ow my days"............ | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
Wait what??
Have you got the right person?
Ive not mentioned any facts or figures once in this thread.
Yup definitely got the wrong guy.
Lol your a one
You've lost me
Your waiting for mw to explain all these facts and figures ive qouted??
Which facts and figures are you reffering to?
Maybe scroll up and check the persons name who you are wanting to get your facts and figures from because it certainly isn't me.
If you scroll up youll see the asking for facts was for someone else........the one for you was "ow my days"............"I scrolled up. You definitely qouted me when asking for facts and figures. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic.
They said remove family members "safely and dignified" what if family refuses to let them take a family member? The next step would be force would it not? Thats what the news reporter suggested, and this is the debate i was looking for to start with.
How would people react if someone came to remove a family member, would you allow it, reaist it? If resisted would they leave it at that or would force be used?
Obviously hypothetical at this time because these measures arnt being implemented but its the fact that the head of WHO was talking about it i feel important to get others views in it.
And another hypothetical
Why would they take one family member who is infected when in all likelihood the whole family would be infected.
By the way ... My hypothetical is much more likely than your hypothetical
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
"So you don't think that Fox News may be a little selective in what they allow to be shown unedited then? Okay. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
Wait what??
Have you got the right person?
Ive not mentioned any facts or figures once in this thread.
Yup definitely got the wrong guy.
Lol your a one
You've lost me
Your waiting for mw to explain all these facts and figures ive qouted??
Which facts and figures are you reffering to?
Maybe scroll up and check the persons name who you are wanting to get your facts and figures from because it certainly isn't me.
If you scroll up youll see the asking for facts was for someone else........the one for you was "ow my days"............
I scrolled up.
You definitely qouted me when asking for facts and figures."Er no i didnt......think youll find it was to someones thumbs up at your comments..........lol.......who did i hear calling others "dense"? | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time..."I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country. But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November? Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is. | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
"You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it..... Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish... | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish..."lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man? | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man? "As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind? | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man?
As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind?"and like I have stated it's only the information at the moment and once everyone has been tested and everyone that gets it recovers from it we won't know how dangerous this virus is. After all about 40% of people died from a bacterial infection on their lungs after the Spanish flu | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man?
As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind?and like I have stated it's only the information at the moment and once everyone has been tested and everyone that gets it recovers from it we won't know how dangerous this virus is. After all about 40% of people died from a bacterial infection on their lungs after the Spanish flu "Someone remove the keyboard......please | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man?
As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind?and like I have stated it's only the information at the moment and once everyone has been tested and everyone that gets it recovers from it we won't know how dangerous this virus is. After all about 40% of people died from a bacterial infection on their lungs after the Spanish flu
Someone remove the keyboard......please"Lmfao You Seem stressed by it all | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man?
As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind?and like I have stated it's only the information at the moment and once everyone has been tested and everyone that gets it recovers from it we won't know how dangerous this virus is. After all about 40% of people died from a bacterial infection on their lungs after the Spanish flu
Someone remove the keyboard......please
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
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Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man?
As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind?and like I have stated it's only the information at the moment and once everyone has been tested and everyone that gets it recovers from it we won't know how dangerous this virus is. After all about 40% of people died from a bacterial infection on their lungs after the Spanish flu
Someone remove the keyboard......please
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. you stay safe too "Thanks It's tough for those dedicating their lives to helping others, the rest of us are luckier. Stay safe | |||
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"Fox news, that well known impartial news channel that wouldn't dream of contorting the truth.
Why is it, I wonder, that 99% of the people posting alarmist 'information' seem to lack even a basic grasp of spelling and grammar?
Could a lack of education make them more susceptible to believing conspiracy theories or misleading information, or are they just 'thick as mince'?
Hello
Let me just clarify i dont trust fox, bbc, sky or any main stream media but fox is the only media that showed the footage of Mike ryan talking in a conference regarding the entering homes thing.
So ill say again it wouldnt matter what media news it was on would it because its not like fox was putting words into this guys mouth or misreporting on it when ill say this once more for the "thick as mince" people IT WAS FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE OF THE HEAD OF WHO TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO INTO THE FAMILY HOME AND REMOVING PEOPLE so there for it doesnt matter which news channel it was on.
Fuck me some people are fucking dense.
"Im not watching it its from you tube, not watching it its on fox" i dont care where the fuck the video was from if its actually footage of the guy saying the things.
You seem a little irate. Have my words struck a nerve? Lol.
Not at all i think your quite funny calling others thick as mince when all you did was project what you are
Onto me because you cant understand and still don't understand the point i was making that it makes no difference which media played the clip of the head of WHO because it was actual footage.
What you seem to suggest is for example when fox news showed a clip of the queen giving her speech to the UK the other day that it can't possibly be true, as it was on fox.
See how stupid you sound?
If its just media reporting on somthing and dont show any actual footage then yeah take it with a pinch of salt.
You probably still don't understand.
Come on still waiting for you to explain and educate us all on how these figures your quoting have come about.....and the validity of these figures you say are facts......................i guess we will all be waiting a long long long long long long long time...
I showed you it earlier and have told you time and time again where I have got the information from. Which is on the worldometer website. Yes I'll admit that I probably should of used a different way to word it all and not Mortality rate 21% which is totally different in every country.
But you can't answer the fact of how many people have died since November last year from it that never got tested for it? Come on tell me how many? Tell me how many people have been infected by the virus worldwide since November?
Oh I forgot know one knows that data do they! So the truth is abit scary because no one knows for sure how dangerous this virus really is.
You showed a screen shot bof an app......, where's the metrics / presumptions and assumptions behind it.....
Its ok to be running scared etc....as it is a scarey world out there at the moment.... but stop scaremonging and sprouting utter gibberish...lol what every I'm still waiting for the answers of the facts that we don't know mr government man?
As like previous other contributers to this forum have already said......No one will know until we are out the otherside and all the information has been collated ......do you need me to try and break that down so its easier for you to understand.......i dont mind?and like I have stated it's only the information at the moment and once everyone has been tested and everyone that gets it recovers from it we won't know how dangerous this virus is. After all about 40% of people died from a bacterial infection on their lungs after the Spanish flu
Someone remove the keyboard......please
Someone took a blue tablet insted of the red one, never mind there's the men in the white coats ha ha
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic.
They said remove family members "safely and dignified" what if family refuses to let them take a family member? The next step would be force would it not? Thats what the news reporter suggested, and this is the debate i was looking for to start with.
How would people react if someone came to remove a family member, would you allow it, reaist it? If resisted would they leave it at that or would force be used?
Obviously hypothetical at this time because these measures arnt being implemented but its the fact that the head of WHO was talking about it i feel important to get others views in it."Your first post said that the head of WHO said that they are talking about removing people by force if needed. At no point did the head of WHO mention force, that's something you, and the newsreader, decided he said. It's fine to have a debate but don't start one based on lies and putting words in people's mouths. | |||
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"WHO are now talking about entering the family home and removing anyone suspected of having the virus, by force if needed (but in a safe and dignified manne what ever that means. Would people be fine with that? Really? I'd ne interested in reading more about that? I'm curious how they'd could legally do so Here's a clip of the head of the W.H.O talking about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9x2-dKmnk At no point did he say he will use force. You're putting words in his mouth then posting proof that proves you wrong, logic.
They said remove family members "safely and dignified" what if family refuses to let them take a family member? The next step would be force would it not? Thats what the news reporter suggested, and this is the debate i was looking for to start with.
How would people react if someone came to remove a family member, would you allow it, reaist it? If resisted would they leave it at that or would force be used?
Obviously hypothetical at this time because these measures arnt being implemented but its the fact that the head of WHO was talking about it i feel important to get others views in it.
Your first post said that the head of WHO said that they are talking about removing people by force if needed. At no point did the head of WHO mention force, that's something you, and the newsreader, decided he said.
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"So I have read all the doom and gloom about this virus and how it’s the end of the world etc etc etc. So world wide 0.00194% pass away of old age daily 0.000987% have passed away from COVID-19 in 4 and a bit months. It all sounds a bit OTT for a virus that kills less people than the normal season flu..." Remember, this virus hasn't typically infected most people that it could have, in that timeframe, just a small propirtion. In other words, it could have continued to have then infected the rest, the majority of the people in those countries with it. It's levels of infection have been doubling every 3 or so days, 100 people infected on a Sunday becomes 400 within a week and on and on. If actions hadn't been taken in rhe countries hit, we'd be at a much worse place now. You'll probably know the varied strategies be them, including the UK, Germany, South Korea, China, Italy, and Spain. They've typically slowed exponential growth rates. You think it all sounds a bit OTT from the results following their strategies. It would have been far worse. The UK will I hope be seeing slow downs in the growth rates of new infections. We're unsure of how many are infected here, as we've generally not tested anyone except for hospital admissions, deaths and a small percentage of health staff. We've had to extrapolate infection numbers from other data, such as admission s, deaths and by use of international data. | |||
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"So I have read all the doom and gloom about this virus and how it’s the end of the world etc etc etc. So world wide 0.00194% pass away of old age daily 0.000987% have passed away from COVID-19 in 4 and a bit months. It all sounds a bit OTT for a virus that kills less people than the normal season flu... Remember, this virus hasn't typically infected most people that it could have, in that timeframe, just a small propirtion. In other words, it could have continued to have then infected the rest, the majority of the people in those countries with it. It's levels of infection have been doubling every 3 or so days, 100 people infected on a Sunday becomes 400 within a week and on and on. If actions hadn't been taken in rhe countries hit, we'd be at a much worse place now. You'll probably know the varied strategies be them, including the UK, Germany, South Korea, China, Italy, and Spain. They've typically slowed exponential growth rates. You think it all sounds a bit OTT from the results following their strategies. It would have been far worse. The UK will I hope be seeing slow downs in the growth rates of new infections. We're unsure of how many are infected here, as we've generally not tested anyone except for hospital admissions, deaths and a small percentage of health staff. We've had to extrapolate infection numbers from other data, such as admission s, deaths and by use of international data. " How many people had this virus in December in the Uk? It‘s still killed less people than normal seasonal flu. No mater what way you call it. 35,500 people die a month world wide from flu. Out of the 81,889 that have passed away to date how many of them would of sadly passed away with any kind of infection? No one can say but it’s a safe bet that it would be in the high 90% range | |||
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"The UK government made grave mistakes in their judgement earlier this year. They didn't order appropriate equipment, including protective and testing gear, when supplies were more readily available and decided to do minimal testing. We're thus largely ignorant of the fatality rates here, though can roughly extrapolate infection levels and fatality. The current future testing plan is flimsy, so it's not changing quickly. Assume the worst for you and others and stay isolating, to help to buy time and stem the onslaught. you stay safe too
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"Please take the (SARS-CoV-2) COVID 19 VIRUS SERIOUS. LISTEN TO LOCKDOWN ADVICE AND STAY SAFE PEOPLE 3.4% Mortality rate estimated by the World Health Organisation is a complete lie. It's based on the amount of confirmed cases worldwide and not on the amount of closed cases worldwide. The actual true figure which is based on the amount of closed cases worldwide stands at 21% Mortality rate at the moment " Do you know who runs the world health organisation? I bet you don't https://londonreal.tv/the-coronavirus-conspiracy-how-covid-19-will-seize-your-rights-destroy-our-economy-david-icke/ | |||
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"So I have read all the doom and gloom about this virus and how it’s the end of the world etc etc etc. So world wide 0.00194% pass away of old age daily 0.000987% have passed away from COVID-19 in 4 and a bit months. It all sounds a bit OTT for a virus that kills less people than the normal season flu... Remember, this virus hasn't typically infected most people that it could have, in that timeframe, just a small propirtion. In other words, it could have continued to have then infected the rest, the majority of the people in those countries with it. It's levels of infection have been doubling every 3 or so days, 100 people infected on a Sunday becomes 400 within a week and on and on. If actions hadn't been taken in rhe countries hit, we'd be at a much worse place now. You'll probably know the varied strategies be them, including the UK, Germany, South Korea, China, Italy, and Spain. They've typically slowed exponential growth rates. You think it all sounds a bit OTT from the results following their strategies. It would have been far worse. The UK will I hope be seeing slow downs in the growth rates of new infections. We're unsure of how many are infected here, as we've generally not tested anyone except for hospital admissions, deaths and a small percentage of health staff. We've had to extrapolate infection numbers from other data, such as admission s, deaths and by use of international data. " And no doubt, just like the millennium bug, afterwards idiots will be saying “see? It was nothing. We changed our lives for nothing”. -Matt | |||
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" Wow big words from a little man. If you have got such a problem with me Which you do seem to have. Instead of being childish and throwing insults around how about you man up, get in your car I'll get in mine and we'll meet up and settle our differences face to face  "Pistols or bow and arrows? Can’t really be melee weapons or bare hands as 2m rule. -Matt | |||
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"I truly believe that if they actually tested everyone then the numbers would be very different. We are sure my whole work environment had it December last year but non of us where hospitalized (thank godess) and haven't been tested. I wonder how many others are in the same position. " Yes totally agree that with if everyone was tested worldwide the figures would change massively and a clear picture would be painted on the real Mortality rate. We was only doing a basic breakdown of the outcome of the amount of confirmed closed cases. Which is you look above I done a break down of it. The first reported case was November 17 China didn't admit that they had a problem until what January 23 something like. We haven't got a clue how many people have really died from it around the world because thousands of people that died before January sometime never got tested for it | |||
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"I truly believe that if they actually tested everyone then the numbers would be very different. We are sure my whole work environment had it December last year but non of us where hospitalized (thank godess) and haven't been tested. I wonder how many others are in the same position. Yes totally agree that with if everyone was tested worldwide the figures would change massively and a clear picture would be painted on the real Mortality rate. We was only doing a basic breakdown of the outcome of the amount of confirmed closed cases. Which is you look above I done a break down of it. The first reported case was November 17 China didn't admit that they had a problem until what January 23 something like. We haven't got a clue how many people have really died from it around the world because thousands of people that died before January sometime never got tested for it " Old tired media reports.....show us something thats factual and verified by legitimate sources and then people wont keep calling you out.... Otherwise leave keyboard alone and we are saying that to save you making more of a fool of yourself | |||
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"Before I start, I do take covid-19 seriously: it is very infectious and has killed a lot of people in a nasty way. But I would also like to reassure you, and others, that the fatality rate isn't as high as 21%. A little digging found this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30245-0/fulltext which says "most experts believe are the true numbers, around the 1–2% range for symptomatic cases". Analysing the Wuhan outbreak suggested that 25% of all cases might be asymptomatic (so mild that the infected person doesn't even know they have it. More recent data from Iceland (who have tested a large proportion of their population) suggest that 50% of all cases might be asymptomatic. That would push the fatality rate down to a bit under 1%. That's still serious when a lot of people are catching it! By way of explaining the high fatality rate you see there, remember that in the early stages of an outbreak the number or cases is doubling at some rate. In the case of covid-19 it's usually every 2-3 days until that region gets it under control. It's also true that you can be sure that someone has died sooner than you can be sure that they have recovered. By about a week, on average, for covid-19. Now let's imagine we start with 100 people infected with covid-19 and (for the sake of argument) the real fatality rate is that 1% mentioned earlier. A week later, 1 of them will die. But the other 99 can't be said to have recovered yet - that will take another week. So far, 100% of resolved cases were fatal. Uh oh! But let's continue to see what happens. In that week since our 100 cases started, the number of people infected will have doubled just over twice (remember, it doubles every 3 days) so we start our second week with about 400-500 cases. Let's call it 450. By the time we finish the second week, some of our original 99 (that didn't die) will have recovered. Not all, because the extra week for recovery is only an average - so we might assume that 50-60 of them have recovered by then. But 1% of our new 450 cases will have died. So now we have 1 + 4.5 (= 5.5) out of 50 or 60 completed cases having died. That looks like a fatality rate of about 10% but we *know* (because we made our example that way) that the fatality rate is actually 1%. There are more things that skew the result like under (or over) reporting of various things but hopefully you can see that relying on the ratio of deaths to recoveries is not a good indicator of the fatality rate while the infection is growing. " Thanks for researching and providing perspective | |||
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" Wow big words from a little man. If you have got such a problem with me Which you do seem to have. Instead of being childish and throwing insults around how about you man up, get in your car I'll get in mine and we'll meet up and settle our differences face to face
Pistols or bow and arrows? Can’t really be melee weapons or bare hands as 2m rule.
-Matt"None just a nice face to face debate I don't really believe in violence to solve problems myself. That's the problem in the world everyone just seem to think of violence and not sitting down and having a face to face debate to solve their differences. Definitely be fair less wars in the world if people did | |||
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