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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Seen Alistair Campbell on tv earlier and he stated that there are still planes carrying thousands every day to london airports ,which there is no social distancing....then they scatter through the underground. Surely we should stop all but repatriation flights now is it makes a mockery of the police picking on a few getting a little sun or stopping for a minute to catch the breath on a park bench.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I thought all those repatriated were being isolated in hotels next to the airport they land at..? "
They aren't repatriation flights according to him they are regular flights...it was news to me that this is still happening. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I agree.. but be careful of the byle this man spouts ... 4 words, weapons of mass destruction.. just saying "
Feck I thought you meant me for a mo there |
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"I agree.. but be careful of the byle this man spouts ... 4 words, weapons of mass destruction.. just saying
Feck I thought you meant me for a mo there"
Lol ..... ye it does read like that, doesn’t it lol sorry ...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I live under the approach to the local airport. Still hearing the occasional plane, but the traffic has really dropped off. Only a few per day - rather than several every hour |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I agree.. but be careful of the byle this man spouts ... 4 words, weapons of mass destruction.. just saying
Feck I thought you meant me for a mo there
Lol ..... ye it does read like that, doesn’t it lol sorry ... "
No probs...I haven't really looked into it,but it would be good to know if and why this is happening as if it is..its madness. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You only have to look up there are few if any vapour trails and remember lots of fresh fruit veg and other supplies are transported by plane. "
That would make sense...but he stated carrying thousand of passengers per day, so he's either telling porkies or as I said it seems madness if true. And tbh I doubt he'd be telling porkies on national tv... |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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I’d be very surprised if it were thousands of people.
There are still scheduled passenger planes flying but as has been said, most are carrying cargo. Heathrow saw a 143% increase in cargo traffic last week.
One flight that was apparently still showing last week was to Kuala Lumpur. That would have been a pointless journey for anyone not on a Malaysian passport, as no one from outside the country has been permitted in for weeks.
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"I’ve just checked my local airport and the arrivals and departure boards are totally blank.
Way up north doesn't seem local to london mate..."
I’m just commenting on my area. It’s easy to check the arrivals board for Heathrow. What’s not so easy is the payload of those flights. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I’ve just checked my local airport and the arrivals and departure boards are totally blank.
Way up north doesn't seem local to london mate...
I’m just commenting on my area. It’s easy to check the arrivals board for Heathrow. What’s not so easy is the payload of those flights. "
Fair enough 
I just posted it to see if some light could be shon on this...as I'm way up north too  |
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Not sure if it's true but the channel tunnel is still running too. I keep hearing light aircraft late at night.
They should only be open for essential goods and medical reasons.
Also Wuhan is starting opening up. I love the chinese people, but the goverment suck. I say keep that city locked down until the rest of the world can recover. Shutdown all meat market vendors and exports.
the future's so bright  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over"
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers. "
Or a lot of cargo? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers.
Or a lot of cargo?"
Hence why I said "depending on the payload "  |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers.
Or a lot of cargo?
Hence why I said "depending on the payload " "
I’m just pointing out that scheduled aircraft need not be carrying passengers.
This will make interstellar reading through the next couple of months.
https://www.heathrow.com/content/dam/heathrow/web/common/documents/company/investor/reports-and-presentations/traffic-statistics/Heathrow_Monthly_Traffic_Statistics_Jan-2005-Feb-2020.xls |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers.
Or a lot of cargo?
Hence why I said "depending on the payload "
I’m just pointing out that scheduled aircraft need not be carrying passengers.
This will make interstellar reading through the next couple of months.
https://www.heathrow.com/content/dam/heathrow/web/common/documents/company/investor/reports-and-presentations/traffic-statistics/Heathrow_Monthly_Traffic_Statistics_Jan-2005-Feb-2020.xls"
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Type - FlightRadar24 into googly and see how many panes are actually in the air live.
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Europe has a piddley few than there is normally. The USA don't seem to have changed from pre to post covid |
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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago
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"I thought all those repatriated were being isolated in hotels next to the airport they land at..? "
I know of four-eight people who are hopefully being repatriated this week or next week.
No one has mentioned anything about hotels to them!! |
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We have a close friend who is a long haul pilot for BA, he has flown once in the past month and that was a repatriation flight. He’s had his wage cut by 50% and is basically “on call” if needed.
So I know 100% BA arnt flying international flights |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers.
Or a lot of cargo?
Hence why I said "depending on the payload "
I’m just pointing out that scheduled aircraft need not be carrying passengers.
This will make interstellar reading through the next couple of months.
https://www.heathrow.com/content/dam/heathrow/web/common/documents/company/investor/reports-and-presentations/traffic-statistics/Heathrow_Monthly_Traffic_Statistics_Jan-2005-Feb-2020.xls
Interesting reading! "
It would be if it went past February...I dont think all flights have stopped since then. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"We have a close friend who is a long haul pilot for BA, he has flown once in the past month and that was a repatriation flight. He’s had his wage cut by 50% and is basically “on call” if needed.
So I know 100% BA arnt flying international flights"
know a stewardess who works for BA she not worked for bout 3 weeks now.last flight she was on was from boston a 747 with less than 90 passengers on board |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"live on the flight path for heathrow usualy 3or 4 planes going over whenever you look up have noticed since about thursday probably 3 or 4 a day are flying over
Well depending on the payload...that could account for up to a thousand passengers.
Or a lot of cargo?
Hence why I said "depending on the payload "
I’m just pointing out that scheduled aircraft need not be carrying passengers.
This will make interstellar reading through the next couple of months.
https://www.heathrow.com/content/dam/heathrow/web/common/documents/company/investor/reports-and-presentations/traffic-statistics/Heathrow_Monthly_Traffic_Statistics_Jan-2005-Feb-2020.xls
Interesting reading!
It would be if it went past February...I dont think all flights have stopped since then."
That’s why I said it would make interesting reading in the next couple of months. I was pointing you in the direction! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The vast majority of flights now are cargo - medicine, medical equipment, PPE, food. Otherwise we have to wait weeks for items to be delivered by ship. "
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"We have a close friend who is a long haul pilot for BA, he has flown once in the past month and that was a repatriation flight. He’s had his wage cut by 50% and is basically “on call” if needed.
So I know 100% BA arnt flying international flightsknow a stewardess who works for BA she not worked for bout 3 weeks now.last flight she was on was from boston a 747 with less than 90 passengers on board"
BA are flying four times a week back and forth to where I’m from. They are going to review again in May. |
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"The vast majority of flights now are cargo - medicine, medical equipment, PPE, food. Otherwise we have to wait weeks for items to be delivered by ship.
We know that ...did you read my op?"
Yep, just pointing out that this is a non issue. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"The vast majority of flights now are cargo - medicine, medical equipment, PPE, food. Otherwise we have to wait weeks for items to be delivered by ship.
We know that ...did you read my op?"
They probably did. You never mentioned cargo in your OP.
Around the 19th/20th March it was estimated that there were around 1 million Britains stranded abroad. That’s a hell of a lot of planes to bring them a
L home. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The vast majority of flights now are cargo - medicine, medical equipment, PPE, food. Otherwise we have to wait weeks for items to be delivered by ship.
We know that ...did you read my op?
Yep, just pointing out that this is a non issue."
What the fact that there appears to be passenger flights landing here and all the passengers get is advice to self isolate for 14 days and be on your way. Ok if that's not a issue for you... |
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over a year ago
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"The vast majority of flights now are cargo - medicine, medical equipment, PPE, food. Otherwise we have to wait weeks for items to be delivered by ship.
We know that ...did you read my op?
They probably did. You never mentioned cargo in your OP.
Around the 19th/20th March it was estimated that there were around 1 million Britains stranded abroad. That’s a hell of a lot of planes to bring them a
L home."
Fair point it was a little further down it got a mention |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Seen Alistair Campbell on tv earlier and he stated that there are still planes carrying thousands every day to london airports ,which there is no social distancing....then they scatter through the underground. Surely we should stop all but repatriation flights now is it makes a mockery of the police picking on a few getting a little sun or stopping for a minute to catch the breath on a park bench.
Your thoughts?"
yeah... one problem...
define "repatriation" flight....
for example.... lets say there are a fair amount of people at the moment stuck in australia and new zealand
do you want the govt to organise all the flights out from there to the uk... or do you still want them to try and get home lets say on flights via hong kong, or singapore, or dubai/abu dhabi
and thats what is happening!!
its a mixture of both to try and get as many people back as possible....
not every flight can be a direct flight for distance, or operational reasons (commercial flights still try to use as few planes as they can to get back as many people as possible) |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"I’d be very surprised if it were thousands of people.
There are still scheduled passenger planes flying but as has been said, most are carrying cargo. Heathrow saw a 143% increase in cargo traffic last week.
One flight that was apparently still showing last week was to Kuala Lumpur. That would have been a pointless journey for anyone not on a Malaysian passport, as no one from outside the country has been permitted in for weeks.
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I imagine some of the increase in freight tonnage is accounted for by the lack of long haul passenger flights most of which would be carrying some freight in addition to its passengers.
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We have a duty to repatriate our citizens, thus preventing foreign governments having to overload their health services with our people who may catch the virus there and need treatment
Most uk people would prefer tourists here to be in their home land too and some would be angry if they could not get treatment themselves, whilst a sicker tourist did etc.
It's also humane that if someone is at tisk, that we invest effort to remove the risks, especially if they may get to lose their life. Most won't be ill but could easily get so. Returning them whilst ill is much more expensive. After death carries too high a cost, especially for grieving families. Many are stranded for absolutely no fault of their own.
When we stop being a country without humanitarian compassion, we should all give up and live in shame. |
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Remember too that even standard passenger flights carry a considerable load of commercial freight, in addition to our baggage, pushchairs etc. It's income that the airlines love and supports the profitability of our flights. That freight still needs to get to/from the uk somehow and pigeons can't handle much. It's obviously faster than sea freight and ideal for time urgent goods.
Most people flying now would face entry restrictions at their destinations and likely can't purchase travel insurance that covers this virus. |
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"Seen Alistair Campbell on tv earlier and he stated that there are still planes carrying thousands every day to london airports ,which there is no social distancing....then they scatter through the underground. Surely we should stop all but repatriation flights now is it makes a mockery of the police picking on a few getting a little sun or stopping for a minute to catch the breath on a park bench.
Your thoughts?
yeah... one problem...
define "repatriation" flight....
for example.... lets say there are a fair amount of people at the moment stuck in australia and new zealand
do you want the govt to organise all the flights out from there to the uk... or do you still want them to try and get home lets say on flights via hong kong, or singapore, or dubai/abu dhabi
and thats what is happening!!
its a mixture of both to try and get as many people back as possible....
not every flight can be a direct flight for distance, or operational reasons (commercial flights still try to use as few planes as they can to get back as many people as possible) "
As I said I posted this off the back of what Alistair Campbell said today..he didn't mention repatriation flights...I did as I would have expected a fair few to be them.
But are they all repatriation flights...I dont know. But what should not happen is if they are coming home from all over the world,then travelling through the underground with just the advice to self isolate for 14 days...ffs it's not do-able when you are using public transport from the airport.
That was my questioning
And also posting to see if we have ongoing passenger flights on a regular basis. And judging by some of the posts on this thread it seems we do. |
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"It actually seems like you are making an issue of something that doesn’t need to be an issue. Far too many conspiracy theorists on here these days. Lets not let facts get in the way "
Grow up |
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"We have a close friend who is a long haul pilot for BA, he has flown once in the past month and that was a repatriation flight. He’s had his wage cut by 50% and is basically “on call” if needed.
So I know 100% BA arnt flying international flights"
BA still flying to HKG, SIN and many US airports but of much reduced frequency. |
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"You only have to look up there are few if any vapour trails and remember lots of fresh fruit veg and other supplies are transported by plane.
That would make sense...but he stated carrying thousand of passengers per day, so he's either telling porkies or as I said it seems madness if true. And tbh I doubt he'd be telling porkies on national tv..."
I thought most contries were on lock down and airports closed except the USA because the Orange man said this would be over by Easter Friday |
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"Seen Alistair Campbell on tv earlier and he stated that there are still planes carrying thousands every day to london airports ,which there is no social distancing....then they scatter through the underground. Surely we should stop all but repatriation flights now is it makes a mockery of the police picking on a few getting a little sun or stopping for a minute to catch the breath on a park bench.
Your thoughts?
yeah... one problem...
define "repatriation" flight....
for example.... lets say there are a fair amount of people at the moment stuck in australia and new zealand
do you want the govt to organise all the flights out from there to the uk... or do you still want them to try and get home lets say on flights via hong kong, or singapore, or dubai/abu dhabi
and thats what is happening!!
its a mixture of both to try and get as many people back as possible....
not every flight can be a direct flight for distance, or operational reasons (commercial flights still try to use as few planes as they can to get back as many people as possible) "
FYI.... most middle east airports closed got friends over there. Airports closed to passenhers 3/ 4weeks ago |
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"Not sure if it's true but the channel tunnel is still running too. I keep hearing light aircraft late at night.
They should only be open for essential goods and medical reasons.
Also Wuhan is starting opening up. I love the chinese people, but the goverment suck. I say keep that city locked down until the rest of the world can recover. Shutdown all meat market vendors and exports.
the future's so bright "
It's the trading of exotic wild life in Asia the government should be concerned about as that's where it seems most deadly viruses began from. Problem is the government have now made it illegal to trade but it's gone on the black market so more difficult to trace.   |
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"Seen Alistair Campbell on tv earlier and he stated that there are still planes carrying thousands every day to london airports ,which there is no social distancing....then they scatter through the underground. Surely we should stop all but repatriation flights now is it makes a mockery of the police picking on a few getting a little sun or stopping for a minute to catch the breath on a park bench.
Your thoughts?
yeah... one problem...
define "repatriation" flight....
for example.... lets say there are a fair amount of people at the moment stuck in australia and new zealand
do you want the govt to organise all the flights out from there to the uk... or do you still want them to try and get home lets say on flights via hong kong, or singapore, or dubai/abu dhabi
and thats what is happening!!
its a mixture of both to try and get as many people back as possible....
not every flight can be a direct flight for distance, or operational reasons (commercial flights still try to use as few planes as they can to get back as many people as possible)
FYI.... most middle east airports closed got friends over there. Airports closed to passenhers 3/ 4weeks ago"
I watched a local news report from New Zealand about a kiwi arriving from Gatwick who staying in London for sometime, contracting bad case of Covid-19. She said she had generally good health so was surprised to find herself in hospital for breathing difficulties. She claimed to contracted Covid-19 from the poor hygiene in Gatwick where she said noone wore masks or gloves, no hand sanitizer were available. But sounds like to me most of uk take this approach as i rarely see in my area people wearing ppe out and about. No idea if she, herself wore ppe during her journey back to new Zealand. I think she left uk a month ago |
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I watched a local news report from New Zealand about a kiwi arriving from Gatwick who staying in London for sometime, contracting bad case of Covid-19. She said she had generally good health so was surprised to find herself in hospital for breathing difficulties. She claimed to contracted Covid-19 from the poor hygiene in Gatwick where she said noone wore masks or gloves, no hand sanitizer were available. But sounds like to me most of uk take this approach as i rarely see in my area people wearing ppe out and about. No idea if she, herself wore ppe during her journey back to new Zealand. I think she left uk a month ago"
Interesting.
I wonder whether wearing mask is advised in the UK or Europe.
In my current place, during this lockdown, no one is allowed to be out without wearing face mask - you wont be allowed to enter shops or if the police see you, they won't allow you to get our of the car, regardless if you are symptomatic or not.
(maybe this should be under different thread, not sure). |
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What's the answer, there's over 300,000 of them coming in from abroad. What do we do, put them in internment camps for 14 days ???
At one point it was over a million british passport holders that somehow managed to get home including myself before the shit hit the fan big time. I wasn't ill or anything. Surely that would have cost a lot of money for nothing. Honestly some keyboard warriors comments on here make me chuckle as to what they are suggesting. |
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"What's the answer, there's over 300,000 of them coming in from abroad. What do we do, put them in internment camps for 14 days ???
At one point it was over a million british passport holders that somehow managed to get home including myself before the shit hit the fan big time. I wasn't ill or anything. Surely that would have cost a lot of money for nothing. Honestly some keyboard warriors comments on here make me chuckle as to what they are suggesting."
I'm sure they are being given a nice pamphlet and told to go home and stay there for at least 14 days. |
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"I live under the approach to the local airport. Still hearing the occasional plane, but the traffic has really dropped off. Only a few per day - rather than several every hour"
Amazon have flights into southend also southend is being used for parking aircraft |
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