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Not that what he's doing is wrong, he's just letting the standing policy continue. Personally I'd give the Israelis everything they need to turn Hamas into a glass covered parking lot.  |
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"Not that what he's doing is wrong, he's just letting the standing policy continue. Personally I'd give the Israelis everything they need to turn Hamas into a glass covered parking lot. "
What happens in someone's life that makes them want to cheer on a genocide?
But yes, Biden is just carrying on selling arms to Israel to drop onto kids in Palestine. Abhorrent policy. |
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"That's because you are totally ignorant of the situation and don't understand anything outside of what Sean hannity tells you. "
Ignorant to what ? The only democracy in the area that everyone surrounding them wants them gone ? |
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The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess."
Hamas launched rockets. No one appalled.
Israel strikes back in defense it's Israel's fault. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
Hamas launched rockets. No one appalled.
Israel strikes back in defense it's Israel's fault."
Let's say that Mexico or Canada moved the border into the US, kicked American people out of their homes and moved their own people in.
Would the US do nothing? And if the US did retaliate, and then Mexico or Canada slaughtered 100s of American people, including kids.
Would you A. Say the same thing: "USA launched rockets. No one appalled.
Canada/Mexico strikes back in defense it's Canada/Mexico's fault"
Or would you have more sympathy towards those who have had their land taken, people kicked out of their homes, and been bombed to shit killing 100s of innocent people?
For some perspective. |
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I have been trying to do more research into this situation. Unfortunately, the truth isn't always available. War sucks! The disregard of human life sucks!
According to the news, Hamas fired the first missile and continues to shoot at Israel. What is Isreal to do? Sadly, and this according to the news. Palestine/Hamas shot first, but from understanding they have not taken precautions for a war. Meaning they lack bomb shelters to help provide any safety for their people. Isreal provides bomb shelters for their people. Whose to know what should be done at this point! Smfh!
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
Hamas launched rockets. No one appalled.
Israel strikes back in defense it's Israel's fault.
Let's say that Mexico or Canada moved the border into the US, kicked American people out of their homes and moved their own people in.
Would the US do nothing? And if the US did retaliate, and then Mexico or Canada slaughtered 100s of American people, including kids.
Would you A. Say the same thing: "USA launched rockets. No one appalled.
Canada/Mexico strikes back in defense it's Canada/Mexico's fault"
Or would you have more sympathy towards those who have had their land taken, people kicked out of their homes, and been bombed to shit killing 100s of innocent people?
For some perspective."
Very well put.
If you trace events back to the late 40's and the actions of mossad and stern gang among others. You'll find the solution to the chicken and egg question. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
Hamas launched rockets. No one appalled.
Israel strikes back in defense it's Israel's fault.
Let's say that Mexico or Canada moved the border into the US, kicked American people out of their homes and moved their own people in.
Would the US do nothing? And if the US did retaliate, and then Mexico or Canada slaughtered 100s of American people, including kids.
Would you A. Say the same thing: "USA launched rockets. No one appalled.
Canada/Mexico strikes back in defense it's Canada/Mexico's fault"
Or would you have more sympathy towards those who have had their land taken, people kicked out of their homes, and been bombed to shit killing 100s of innocent people?
For some perspective.
Very well put.
If you trace events back to the late 40's and the actions of mossad and stern gang among others. You'll find the solution to the chicken and egg question. "
Yes chicken egg = British idiotic solutions.But yet here is the US choosing the side that won because of the policy the crown did. Our policy fails lmfao The crown is and will be forevermore the cause of so much strife in the world today. UK fault step up and own it . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
Hamas launched rockets. No one appalled.
Israel strikes back in defense it's Israel's fault.
Let's say that Mexico or Canada moved the border into the US, kicked American people out of their homes and moved their own people in.
Would the US do nothing? And if the US did retaliate, and then Mexico or Canada slaughtered 100s of American people, including kids.
Would you A. Say the same thing: "USA launched rockets. No one appalled.
Canada/Mexico strikes back in defense it's Canada/Mexico's fault"
Or would you have more sympathy towards those who have had their land taken, people kicked out of their homes, and been bombed to shit killing 100s of innocent people?
For some perspective.
Very well put.
If you trace events back to the late 40's and the actions of mossad and stern gang among others. You'll find the solution to the chicken and egg question.
Yes chicken egg = British idiotic solutions.But yet here is the US choosing the side that won because of the policy the crown did. Our policy fails lmfao The crown is and will be forevermore the cause of so much strife in the world today. UK fault step up and own it ."
The Palestinians are connected and comprised of a couple of known terrorist groups (Hamas being number 1) the Israelis are not a known terrorist organization. I to ha e been there Isreal is beautiful. I've also met a few people from the Mosad, they are honorable. They are defending themselves. As for the dumb ass statement some f-tard made about Mexico or Canada moving in and kicking our people our, thats a joke. Our citizens wouldn't allow it, fuck the government or the Biden administration to negotiate anything. It would be over before it starts. That is the same wat the Israelis are proceeding. High five to them. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"One mans terrorist is another mans hero.."
Exactly Israel is my hero. Against all odds they exist. Choose your sides let's draw a line. America's policy is justified. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
Hamas launched rockets. No one appalled.
Israel strikes back in defense it's Israel's fault.
Let's say that Mexico or Canada moved the border into the US, kicked American people out of their homes and moved their own people in.
Would the US do nothing? And if the US did retaliate, and then Mexico or Canada slaughtered 100s of American people, including kids.
Would you A. Say the same thing: "USA launched rockets. No one appalled.
Canada/Mexico strikes back in defense it's Canada/Mexico's fault"
Or would you have more sympathy towards those who have had their land taken, people kicked out of their homes, and been bombed to shit killing 100s of innocent people?
For some perspective.
Very well put.
If you trace events back to the late 40's and the actions of mossad and stern gang among others. You'll find the solution to the chicken and egg question.
Yes chicken egg = British idiotic solutions.But yet here is the US choosing the side that won because of the policy the crown did. Our policy fails lmfao The crown is and will be forevermore the cause of so much strife in the world today. UK fault step up and own it .
The Palestinians are connected and comprised of a couple of known terrorist groups (Hamas being number 1) the Israelis are not a known terrorist organization. I to ha e been there Isreal is beautiful. I've also met a few people from the Mosad, they are honorable. They are defending themselves. As for the dumb ass statement some f-tard made about Mexico or Canada moving in and kicking our people our, thats a joke. Our citizens wouldn't allow it, fuck the government or the Biden administration to negotiate anything. It would be over before it starts. That is the same wat the Israelis are proceeding. High five to them. "
You call me a fuck tard, then post this utter nonsense. Did you re-read what you posted?
Further above in this thread you were suggesting a genocide. Then you got angry about a hypothetical scenario which was used to illustrate a point. Then back to high giving Israelis for bombing kids.
Maybe pause and think about what you're posting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One mans terrorist is another mans hero..
Exactly Israel is my hero. Against all odds they exist. Choose your sides let's draw a line. America's policy is justified."
Bombing kids, moving the border into Palestinian land, taking people's homes.
Not massively heroic. |
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Israel is the biggest terrorist state on the planet. Going into people's houses removing them and telling them it is no longer their house. They flout international law and nobody can touch them. They just like grabbing land and keep denying the rights of the Palestinians. Everyone says Israel has a right to defend itself and I say the complete opposite it is Palestine that deserve to protect its land. Hate Zionists |
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Also the cause of this is not Hama's you ignorant ppl but 60 years of occupation and denying of basic rights. Whatever Israel is doing is genocide. Hamas did not fire first rather it was the opposite. Some really ignorant ppl in the world that have no humanity. So many ppl brainwashed by the media for ffs just wake up and do proper research on a country that is untouchable due to American foreign policy. I'm not against Jews but I hate Zionists and others that oppress. |
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Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man
His enemies say he's on their land
They got him outnumbered about a million to one
He got no place to escape to, no place to run
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully he just lives to survive
He's criticized and condemned for being alive
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land
He's wandered the earth an exiled man
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn
He's always on trial for just being born
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad
The bombs were meant for him. He was supposed to feel bad
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, the chances are against it, and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he got no allies to really speak of
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side
He's the neighborhood bully.
Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly. To hurt one they would weep
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep
He's the neighborhood bully.
Every empire that's ens1aved him is gone
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand
In bed with nobody, under no one's command
He's the neighborhood bully.
Now his holiest books have been trampled upon
No contract that he signed was worth that what it was written on
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health
He's the neighborhood bully.
What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothing, they say. He just likes to cause war
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed
They wait for this bully like a dog waits for feed
He's the neighborhood bully.
What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers? Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill
Running out the clock, time standing still
Neighborhood bully.
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"As for the dumb ass statement some f-tard made about Mexico or Canada moving in and kicking our people our, thats a joke. Our citizens wouldn't allow it"
I think the irony is totally lost on you  |
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""As for the dumb ass statement some f-tard made about Mexico or Canada moving in and kicking our people our, thats a joke. Our citizens wouldn't allow it"
I think the irony is totally lost on you "
Ha. Indeed.
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess."
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Dusky agree the Canadians would not allow it as they have the ability to protect themselves and fight back. The Palestinians for over 60 years have been occupied and not even given basic rights. Don't forget it was all Palestine and there was piece and harmony until it was given to them by the British who had no right. The Zionists are an extreme group that since then have been taking more and more land and unlike Canada they got nothing to fight back with except stones. Hamas came after. As a human we should sympathise with those that are being oppressed and condemn the perpetrators where ever they are from. Even the so called UN have recognised the flouting of the law and getting away with it. Look at Belarus one incident and they talking sanctions whereas Israel for decades have got away with it. What double standards. Like I said before I am against Zionists and not the orthodox Jews. |
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Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. "
I guess Egypt was right to close the boarders with Palestine when Hamas took over. Those damn Egyptian Zionists. Hamas and their perfect rights and thier dignity they are the example of how a society should be. I see a nobel peace prize for Hamas and their perfectly executed rightfully launched rockets. |
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Every neighbour of Israel is run by puppet governments put in place by America and the west in order to protect Israel and not to go against the attrocities it commits. Western policy or shall I say American foreign policy has messed up the middle east through bombing legally and illegally in order to get their people into power. If Egypt closes it's borders this is because they have been told to do so. I still can't believe there are people that still think Israel is right. So many ppl turning a blind eye and that is why the Palestinians are being killed. Hamas I said came after and it's the IDF that is the bigger terrorist organisation in this conflict. Sometimes the truth hurts. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess."
800 years occupation by the British? Lol, the Vikings conquered you, blame them. Ridiculous. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth. "
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news."
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
800 years occupation by the British? Lol, the Vikings conquered you, blame them. Ridiculous. "
Really you take the biscuit for being the dumbest, well done, just to get you up to date, Ireland won independence in 1921 after 800 years of British occupation, and 6 counties are still occupied. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view."
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form. "
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about. "
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ? |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?"
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation. "
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation.
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory."
This is a simplistic and inaccurate understanding.
And in any case I would recommend looking into Israel's land grabs, how they have illegally expanded past their original 1948 boarders. What life is like in the Gaza Strip, and specifically what Israel does to contribute to the conditions that these human beings live in. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation.
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory.
This is a simplistic and inaccurate understanding.
And in any case I would recommend looking into Israel's land grabs, how they have illegally expanded past their original 1948 boarders. What life is like in the Gaza Strip, and specifically what Israel does to contribute to the conditions that these human beings live in."
So you saying it was ok for the Jews to be forced out of the lands they had since day 1 compared to now ? They have no rights even tho they were persecuted and conquered ? The tables turn where they have the ability and it's not ok. So let's blame the Jews for thier inheritance right to protect what was originally thiers. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation.
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory.
This is a simplistic and inaccurate understanding.
And in any case I would recommend looking into Israel's land grabs, how they have illegally expanded past their original 1948 boarders. What life is like in the Gaza Strip, and specifically what Israel does to contribute to the conditions that these human beings live in.
So you saying it was ok for the Jews to be forced out of the lands they had since day 1 compared to now ? They have no rights even tho they were persecuted and conquered ? The tables turn where they have the ability and it's not ok. So let's blame the Jews for thier inheritance right to protect what was originally thiers."
I'm not saying any of that. You made that all up. I'm not talking about Jewish people at all. We're talking about Israel.
I'm not even saying anything actually, just suggesting you learn about what's happening there. Because you have very strong opinions. But don't seem to know what's happening. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation.
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory.
This is a simplistic and inaccurate understanding.
And in any case I would recommend looking into Israel's land grabs, how they have illegally expanded past their original 1948 boarders. What life is like in the Gaza Strip, and specifically what Israel does to contribute to the conditions that these human beings live in.
So you saying it was ok for the Jews to be forced out of the lands they had since day 1 compared to now ? They have no rights even tho they were persecuted and conquered ? The tables turn where they have the ability and it's not ok. So let's blame the Jews for thier inheritance right to protect what was originally thiers.
I'm not saying any of that. You made that all up. I'm not talking about Jewish people at all. We're talking about Israel.
I'm not even saying anything actually, just suggesting you learn about what's happening there. Because you have very strong opinions. But don't seem to know what's happening."
Has Egypt treated Hamas by closing access to their territory ? You think that they would be more understanding. They did the same as Israel. They do not like the current political atmosphere either. So is Egypt wrong in their understanding of the current political atmosphere ? They just recently opened access for humanitarian efforts. Your blaming Israel yet Egypt was making people suffer too. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation.
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory.
This is a simplistic and inaccurate understanding.
And in any case I would recommend looking into Israel's land grabs, how they have illegally expanded past their original 1948 boarders. What life is like in the Gaza Strip, and specifically what Israel does to contribute to the conditions that these human beings live in.
So you saying it was ok for the Jews to be forced out of the lands they had since day 1 compared to now ? They have no rights even tho they were persecuted and conquered ? The tables turn where they have the ability and it's not ok. So let's blame the Jews for thier inheritance right to protect what was originally thiers.
I'm not saying any of that. You made that all up. I'm not talking about Jewish people at all. We're talking about Israel.
I'm not even saying anything actually, just suggesting you learn about what's happening there. Because you have very strong opinions. But don't seem to know what's happening.
Has Egypt treated Hamas by closing access to their territory ? You think that they would be more understanding. They did the same as Israel. They do not like the current political atmosphere either. So is Egypt wrong in their understanding of the current political atmosphere ? They just recently opened access for humanitarian efforts. Your blaming Israel yet Egypt was making people suffer too. "
Both Israel and Egypt had a blockade in effect since 2007. I supposed Egyptians are not guilty of suppression too. |
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"Kynaric think like a Palestinian and not someone who just watches the news and believes everything on it is the truth.
Not Kynaric blu and
I been to the middle east multiple deployments. Not changing my mind when the human rights violation from the other side or horrendous Expecially towards women. I will pick Israel constantly. So blame Israel Blame Egypt Blame Jordan and all the other middle east countries we support. Not fake news.
Why don't you learn more about how Israel treats Palestine?
It would give you a more balanced view.
Balanced view ? Been there done that being a woman it's appalling. Can't change that fact no matter how hard your convictions are. Been like that that for a long time you think the powers that be going to change attitudes twords women and Lgbtq ? No they will not. Love the fact Israel has women merkava crews. It's a empowering stance knowing women are standing up to their rights to exist in any form.
Not sure how any of this relates to Israel moving their border into Palestinian lands, kicking families out of their houses, bombing kids.
Honestly, it's worth learning about.
That area was Jewish until they were conquered. Since the dawn of time. So who truly has rights to it ?
I think it would give you a better perspective and a more effective argument if you understood what Israel is doing to Palestine.
You don't seem to have an understanding of the situation.
I do have a understanding history proves it. They have rights to the area. It was theirs. Just like here if indians want thier territory back and want to fight for it I have no qualms. It's conquered territory.
This is a simplistic and inaccurate understanding.
And in any case I would recommend looking into Israel's land grabs, how they have illegally expanded past their original 1948 boarders. What life is like in the Gaza Strip, and specifically what Israel does to contribute to the conditions that these human beings live in.
So you saying it was ok for the Jews to be forced out of the lands they had since day 1 compared to now ? They have no rights even tho they were persecuted and conquered ? The tables turn where they have the ability and it's not ok. So let's blame the Jews for thier inheritance right to protect what was originally thiers.
I'm not saying any of that. You made that all up. I'm not talking about Jewish people at all. We're talking about Israel.
I'm not even saying anything actually, just suggesting you learn about what's happening there. Because you have very strong opinions. But don't seem to know what's happening.
Has Egypt treated Hamas by closing access to their territory ? You think that they would be more understanding. They did the same as Israel. They do not like the current political atmosphere either. So is Egypt wrong in their understanding of the current political atmosphere ? They just recently opened access for humanitarian efforts. Your blaming Israel yet Egypt was making people suffer too.
Both Israel and Egypt had a blockade in effect since 2007. I supposed Egyptians are not guilty of suppression too."
Look, let's not fall out.
You can choose to learn about the situation, or not.
If you don't, then it's much harder to form a reasoned argument in favour of Israel's actions towards Palestine.
To address your point. Sure, Egypt are in the wrong here too, so is the UK, so is the US. Plenty of countries are playing a part in this. But ultimately Israel are responsible for their policy towards Palestine. |
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No the Zionist are horrible they are like the nazis with a great propaganda machine the justify their apartheid system, they occupy ,and are ethnic cleansing the native palestinians, by making their lives impossible burning their fields, imprisoning their children etc, etc all the time claiming to be the victim.
They control the U.S government by bribing the politicians. The U.S. will be milked by them till the tit bleeds. They are no friends of our. Remember the U.S.S liberty bombed by the Zionist on June 06 and the silence of their puppet government. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess."
There are Jews everywhere we must attack every jew on planet earth.We must slaughter and kill them with Allah's help..FATHI HAMMOD,HAMAS OFFICIAL..Its not just about Israel its about the extermination off all Jews..THAT'S HAMAS and comparing Ireland and the brits to Israel and Hamas REALLY
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. "
When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King.
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By *atonMan
over a year ago
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King."
The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isreal
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isreal"
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isreal"
The Holocaust industry...that's a new low |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low "
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar  It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel."
Not to mention Israel forcibly removed their own people from Gaza settlements to try to satisfy. |
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By *atonMan
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel."
The term was used by Norman finkelstein a Jewish intellectual who lost several family members in the holocaust |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel."
I think what's disgusting is you referring to this as a pathetic little conflict. The displacement of over a million palestinianians and thousands of murders. The term " holocaust industry" was coined by normal finkelstein an intellectual jew who lost several family members in the holocaust but dosnt play the partisan game . |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel."
Three are several nationalities living in isreal . Is the uk the Christian people,? |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. Three are several nationalities living in isreal . Is the uk the Christian people,?"
Are Islamic states identity the same ? Israel Jewish state. Palestine calls itself a Islamic state. Can't live there being Jewish or any other faith now can you. |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. Three are several nationalities living in isreal . Is the uk the Christian people,?
Are Islamic states identity the same ? Israel Jewish state. Palestine calls itself a Islamic state. Can't live there being Jewish or any other faith now can you. "
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. Three are several nationalities living in isreal . Is the uk the Christian people,?
Are Islamic states identity the same ? Israel Jewish state. Palestine calls itself a Islamic state. Can't live there being Jewish or any other faith now can you. Just realised I'm debating with an American. What's the point,?"
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. I think what's disgusting is you referring to this as a pathetic little conflict. The displacement of over a million palestinianians and thousands of murders. The term " holocaust industry" was coined by normal finkelstein an intellectual jew who lost several family members in the holocaust but dosnt play the partisan game ."
Oh yes, of course you're quite correct - the moving of some people out of their houses is exactly the same as the brutal deaths of over 6 million men, women and children. Good point, well done you |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. Three are several nationalities living in isreal . Is the uk the Christian people,?
Are Islamic states identity the same ? Israel Jewish state. Palestine calls itself a Islamic state. Can't live there being Jewish or any other faith now can you. Just realised I'm debating with an American. What's the point,?"
Norman Finkelstein is American, but you're using his quotes. Double standards again. But do you think that the Palestinians are the only ones hard done by in respect of losing their homes and their lives? Here's a little light reading for you. There were 38,000 Jews in western Libya before 1945. Now there are none; 47 synagogues are gone and a highway runs through Libya’s main Jewish cemetery. In Algeria, there were 140,000 Jews. Now there are none. In Iraq, there were about 150,000 Jews. Five remain. There were 80,000 Jews in Egypt. Almost all are gone - all forced out of their homes, many killed or imprisoned by the majority Islamic sharia rules of those countries. But you don't mention those - why not? Did you not know? Or just ignore it as per usual. |
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By *atonMan
over a year ago
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. Three are several nationalities living in isreal . Is the uk the Christian people,?
Are Islamic states identity the same ? Israel Jewish state. Palestine calls itself a Islamic state. Can't live there being Jewish or any other faith now can you. Just realised I'm debating with an American. What's the point,?
Norman Finkelstein is American, but you're using his quotes. Double standards again. But do you think that the Palestinians are the only ones hard done by in respect of losing their homes and their lives? Here's a little light reading for you. There were 38,000 Jews in western Libya before 1945. Now there are none; 47 synagogues are gone and a highway runs through Libya’s main Jewish cemetery. In Algeria, there were 140,000 Jews. Now there are none. In Iraq, there were about 150,000 Jews. Five remain. There were 80,000 Jews in Egypt. Almost all are gone - all forced out of their homes, many killed or imprisoned by the majority Islamic sharia rules of those countries. But you don't mention those - why not? Did you not know? Or just ignore it as per usual."
Yes an American jew. You use whataboutery very well so endorsing my reasoning and finklesteins quote. I do and have always condemned persecution of all types including the persecution of Jewish people. Said it before and will say it again slowly so you understand...of all the people who should understand the folly of persecution its the Jewish people. |
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By *atonMan
over a year ago
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. I think what's disgusting is you referring to this as a pathetic little conflict. The displacement of over a million palestinianians and thousands of murders. The term " holocaust industry" was coined by normal finkelstein an intellectual jew who lost several family members in the holocaust but dosnt play the partisan game .
Oh yes, of course you're quite correct - the moving of some people out of their houses is exactly the same as the brutal deaths of over 6 million men, women and children. Good point, well done you "
"Moving some people out of there homes". Your perpetuating the caricature. |
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"Give credit to Ireland that have banned products from the occupied land. A first amongst the west. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow suit. And like many journalists leaders what's happening in Israel is apartheid and blatant racism. Can't believe there are still so many people supporting what Israel are doing. Obviously have no heart for the many innocent children and adults who have been killed or have been made homeless through no fault of their own. They standing firm against a terror that is snatching their land. There will never be peace until the Zionists give back the land that does not belong to them and more importantly give back the rights and dignity back to the Palestinians people. I call for free Palestine. When people criticize zionists,they mean Jews..your talking antisemitism..Martin Luther King. The old smoke and mirror tactics..criticise isreal and your a Jewish hater. Its called the holocaust industry and is cleverly used to deflect the terrible crimes of isrealThe Holocaust industry...that's a new low
It really is quite disgusting terminology. Over 6 million Jews were annihilated during WW2 and people are comparing this latest pathetic little conflict to that and accusing the Jews of doing similar It really does beggar belief. Israel is the Jewish people, the Jewish people are Israel. I think what's disgusting is you referring to this as a pathetic little conflict. The displacement of over a million palestinianians and thousands of murders. The term " holocaust industry" was coined by normal finkelstein an intellectual jew who lost several family members in the holocaust but dosnt play the partisan game .
Oh yes, of course you're quite correct - the moving of some people out of their houses is exactly the same as the brutal deaths of over 6 million men, women and children. Good point, well done you "Moving some people out of there homes". Your perpetuating the caricature."
Yet 8000 Jews where forced out of Gaza strip and their homes demolished. Just to satisfy a accord. |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
800 years occupation by the British? Lol, the Vikings conquered you, blame them. Ridiculous. "
The vikings pillaged and raided and then settled in ireland founding a lot of the main towns and cities. They did not conquer Ireland. The British on the other hand spent 800 years trying to drive the natives into graves. I think you may want to read up on your countries colonial past and what exactly it is they have done to many countries around the world |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
800 years occupation by the British? Lol, the Vikings conquered you, blame them. Ridiculous.
The vikings pillaged and raided and then settled in ireland founding a lot of the main towns and cities. They did not conquer Ireland. The British on the other hand spent 800 years trying to drive the natives into graves. I think you may want to read up on your countries colonial past and what exactly it is they have done to many countries around the world"
this is why we get nil points in the Eurovision ?  |
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"The ignorance on this thread is appalling, I been to both places and difference is staggering. Israel are an occupying force and commit atrocity after atrocity, it is shamfull not to call it out as it is. Proud of our foreign minister Simon Coveney calling it was it is and summoned the Israeli ambassador to explain that they have to be consistent with international law. Which they haven't been. As Irish/Americans we can relate to occupation, being occupied for 800 years by the British, no surprise they were instrumental in setting up this mess.
800 years occupation by the British? Lol, the Vikings conquered you, blame them. Ridiculous.
The vikings pillaged and raided and then settled in ireland founding a lot of the main towns and cities. They did not conquer Ireland. The British on the other hand spent 800 years trying to drive the natives into graves. I think you may want to read up on your countries colonial past and what exactly it is they have done to many countries around the worldthis is why we get nil points in the Eurovision ? "
I think its more bad taste in music
By the way that post was aimed directly at the person who doesnt know the history of their country and yet spouts off about someone elses. I have absolutely no issue with the UK  |
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"Not that what he's doing is wrong, he's just letting the standing policy continue. Personally I'd give the Israelis everything they need to turn Hamas into a glass covered parking lot. "
How fascistsic |
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"Biden hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. US foreign policy is just an after thought zero priority they think it's a joke."
His priority isn't foreign policy. His priority is completely screwing things up on the home front. He's doing a fantastic job on that score. His approval figures and laughable |
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"He is as horrendous as expected, and she is pathetic as it gets. "
i have to disagree with you there....nobody expected him to be as bad as this. This is horrendous on steroids!
I think she's doing a great job. Hiring child actors for making 'impromptu' promo videos about space travel was especially good for ratings figures.
All in all they are doing a fantastic job....for team red  |
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