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Whitby goth weekend October roll call
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"Hi we will be there as usual from Friday dinner time " Hopefully we'll catch up with you both again..  | |||
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"4 weeks till we're setting off for an excellent weekend in whitby "  | |||
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"I will be there from Thursday. " | |||
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"We are back new name. And ready for the goth weekend. Guess it will be the little angel fri night." No doubt we'll catch up with you there.. Good to see you're back anyway..lol. | |||
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"Looks like the little A on Friday night! XX" That looks like us all in the little angel fri then lol. | |||
"Looks like the little A on Friday night! XX That looks like us all in the little angel fri then lol." Let's hope there's a decent dj in there again like last time.. | |||
"Looks like the little A on Friday night! XX That looks like us all in the little angel fri then lol. Let's hope there's a decent dj in there again like last time.. "if not we can always go find one lol | |||
"Looks like the little A on Friday night! XX That looks like us all in the little angel fri then lol. Let's hope there's a decent dj in there again like last time..
if not we can always go find one lol"Just seen the itinerary for little A , and it's the same dj as April doing Friday and Saturday night, he played some cracking tunes last time.. | |||
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"Well had a few messages off different people saying they wanna meet up. So let's see who turns up in the little angel lol. Let's play spot the fab lot" There's a certain few that are easy to spot....lol | |||
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"Hey guys is this just a couples event or are single guy welcome ?? " its a pub. so its open to anyone. | |||
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"Less than a week to go and she decides she wants a new outfit. See this been a rush thing lol" it looks like we ordered our outfits too late (online) they are on the slow boat from China so we may need to improvise if we can’t find anything local on Marketplace, typical but I know we will still have lots fun regardless. | |||
"Less than a week to go and she decides she wants a new outfit. See this been a rush thing lol" Get something when you're there, plenty of good stalls about...lol.. | |||
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"Less than a week to go and she decides she wants a new outfit. See this been a rush thing lol Get something when you're there, plenty of good stalls about...lol.. Got most of it. A bit of a different style for her this time" | |||
"Less than a week to go and she decides she wants a new outfit. See this been a rush thing lol Get something when you're there, plenty of good stalls about...lol.. Got most of it. A bit of a different style for her this time" Oooh, look forward to seeing the finished outfit.. | |||
"Less than a week to go and she decides she wants a new outfit. See this been a rush thing lol Get something when you're there, plenty of good stalls about...lol.. Got most of it. A bit of a different style for her this time Oooh, look forward to seeing the finished outfit.. "it will look sexy or a dogs dinner lol. | |||
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"Less than a week to go and she decides she wants a new outfit. See this been a rush thing lol Get something when you're there, plenty of good stalls about...lol.. Got most of it. A bit of a different style for her this time Oooh, look forward to seeing the finished outfit..
it will look sexy or a dogs
dinner lol."Can't really see the Mrs looking anything but sexy..?? | |||
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"I'll be there...dusted off my fishnets and giant goth boots ready for action..!" hope to see you in the little a with the rest of us | |||
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"Not us as its nothing to do with wgw...." is it not? I must admit I also thought all the music and events over the weekend were all set up and related to the Whitby Goth Weekend ? Pray tell . | |||
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"Nope, its a bunch of wannabees trying to take over, uts been going on for a few years. The only official wgw events are the market at the leisure centre and the stalls in the brunswick centre, and the djs at the Abbey wharf.." gotcha, I bet not a lot of people know that. So not even Little A and the gathering they pull is in the list of official venues ? I notice Little A had a controversial planning app accepted this year to extend the outdoor/beer garden/conservatory opening hours , it should be good | |||
"Nope, its a bunch of wannabees trying to take over, uts been going on for a few years. The only official wgw events are the market at the leisure centre and the stalls in the brunswick centre, and the djs at the Abbey wharf.. gotcha, I bet not a lot of people know that. So not even Little A and the gathering they pull is in the list of official venues ? I notice Little A had a controversial planning app accepted this year to extend the outdoor/beer garden/conservatory opening hours , it should be good "I think you are looking to much into it. Just go and enjoy yourself. | |||
"Nope, its a bunch of wannabees trying to take over, uts been going on for a few years. The only official wgw events are the market at the leisure centre and the stalls in the brunswick centre, and the djs at the Abbey wharf.. gotcha, I bet not a lot of people know that. So not even Little A and the gathering they pull is in the list of official venues ? I notice Little A had a controversial planning app accepted this year to extend the outdoor/beer garden/conservatory opening hours , it should be good
I think you are looking to much into it. Just go and enjoy yourself."absolutely, wise words . Thats what we plan to do . Thanks | |||
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"It's a long stagger back from the brewery if you've had a few...lol" My mate just told me that the brewery is small and it will be outside. Can't see that myself | |||
"First time going best place for live music AC/DC guns & roses etc thanks " There may be a band or two on I some of the pubs, no guarantee as to what they are playing though, a few have the pubs have djs on, abbey wharf plays Lots of rock and goth and 80s stuff though.. | |||
"It's a long stagger back from the brewery if you've had a few...lol My mate just told me that the brewery is small and it will be outside. Can't see that myself" The brewery is small, think the open the front up for the stage and it's basically outside, been a few years since we've been up though.. | |||
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"looks like the little room at the back of the little angel will be the fab room fri" We'll just let the lion in to clear the room for us first...lol | |||
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"Roll on tomorrow let the fun begin going to be a good weekend "Definitely will be | |||
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"see you all tomorrow night" | |||
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"Keep you eyes open for us "your best looking for others. others wont have a clue what you look like with your profile. where has others have pics on where you can make out whos who | |||
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"Our first time some great outfits went to the Little angel but sure took some getting served "You never come to say hello | |||
"Our first time some great outfits went to the Little angel but sure took some getting served
You never come to say hello"Perhaps the didn't know about perverts corner...lol... Was fantastic to catch up with you all, hurry up April.. | |||
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"We're going because we love the macabre, the clothing and going to listen to some new music and we've never been before. I know lots of people who like the gothic style but are more in to metal, than goth music Goth isn't just the music, it's the literature, architecture, clothing all sorts of things " Ok but that does not make you/them Goth though. Just means you/they have some Alternative tendencies. As I said though this is Whitby Goth Weekend, not Whitby Alternative Weekend. Bikers seem to go to and some of them dress Goth for the weekend does not make them Goth. I know what Goth is thanks, been on the scene 20+ years. And sadly its no longer Whitby Goth Weekend. | |||
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"So, can bikers not be goths as well? We've been going for nearly 20 years, don't dress full time goth because of our jobs, we're also bikers, but we've supported wgw, and still do, yeah it has changed, like every thing else, it's about accepting that, unfortunately... You've also got people coming in that think they can do it better, then realise they can't!!!" It's changed for the worse. Goths start going to Whitby 1994 because its cheap, out of season and quiet. Local photographers start going to Whitby to take pictures of the goths (not always consensually). Non-goths start going to Whitby in fancy dress to be photographed by the photographers that have come to photograph the goths. Non-goths start coming to Whitby to look at the fancy dressers who have come to be photographed. It's now avalanched out of control. Whitby used to be cheap, out of season and now its anything but. | |||
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"Whitby has never been cheap out of season, its a coastal holiday town that appeals all year round, and we've been in all seasons. It has been the photographers that have turned it into a big circus though, hence the proper goths dissappear into the pubs out of the way during the day.." No, prices were ok 15 years ago. Until about 2011, Halloween weekend wasn't a thing. Most 'pretty postcard towns' are heaving now, as Autumn is a popular time to go away. This was not the case through most of the 2000's. | |||
"We're going because we love the macabre, the clothing and going to listen to some new music and we've never been before. I know lots of people who like the gothic style but are more in to metal, than goth music Goth isn't just the music, it's the literature, architecture, clothing all sorts of things Ok but that does not make you/them Goth though. Just means you/they have some Alternative tendencies. As I said though this is Whitby Goth Weekend, not Whitby Alternative Weekend. Bikers seem to go to and some of them dress Goth for the weekend does not make them Goth. I know what Goth is thanks, been on the scene 20+ years. And sadly its no longer Whitby Goth Weekend." That's a real gatekeeper attitude. If you love the goth scene as much as you're trying to make out then why not encourage people rather who might have an interest rather than just come on a forum and rant about it trying to prove how you're more goth than someone else is? I see that you've blocked us on here for some reason. Perhaps because we don't have a shrine to Robert Smith in our house? If you'd like to tell us exactly what we should be doing in your very specific rulebook we'll be sure to adhere before daring to set foot in the town of Whitby | |||
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"I knew, I just knew that you would call me a 'gatekeeper'. Its the same song always sing by similar people. I have been called it before by Goths, weekend Goths and fancy dressers and you know what, good. Some things need gate keeping otherwise you loose them. In the 2000's, many Goth clubs had a dress code. For financial reasons, many clubs dropped this, this lead to an increase in normal coming into the clubs, some of the men would leer inappropriately at the Goth girls and it lead to a few incidents. In the case of Whitby, its turned what was a Goth Music Festival, into a badly dressed, unorganised assembly. It's the reason to why the UK's main Goth Weekend isn't a Goth Weekend anymore and you have to go to Germany now. I mostly blame the Steampunks. They created a false representation that it was about peacocking about in some elaborate costume. Which is actually quite insulting. I never saw what I wore as some 'costume' and I was subjected to a lot abuse and discrimination for it. So I don't appreciate them ridiculing my scene as some costume event. A lot of people I knew felt this way. Anyway, the Steampunks brought photographers, with them more people to spot Goths, which brought more photographers, which then brought bus loads of people, some in fancy dress, which brought more photographers, until its avalanched out of control. The Steampunks have thier own weekend now but the damage has already been done. People no longer know its a Goth Music Festival. Being Goths is about being who you are, all the time, we don't technically need Whitby to be who we are. As it was an extension of what many of us did at home. I never wore anything that I would not do in Whitby. I just saw it as an excuse to see bands, 5 nights of clubs and markets and Goths. That's the difference, many people who go to Whitby would never do that in thier home town. Which is why they went to Whitby, they were worried about ridicule and knew in Whitby they wouldn't stand out. It's called Cosplay. It's a shame they just couldn't go to thier local Comic Con. At least the Germans don't have that annoying trait of trying to join in like some village d*unk at the local fair. They leave them to get on with it. Leipzig just lacks Whitby's charm though." Unfortunately whitby stopped being a goth music festival when the organiser was forced out of the spa. Other parties have tried to make a quick killing out of it by hiking the prices, but they've since realised they can't do it, hence they are only doing the music festival once a year. At least the original organiser is still doing her bit, even if it is back to basics like it used to be. The goth scene in the UK will never be like it was in the late 70s and early 80s, but the older generation will try to keep it going as we remember the beginning.. | |||
"I knew, I just knew that you would call me a 'gatekeeper'. Its the same song always sing by similar people. I have been called it before by Goths, weekend Goths and fancy dressers and you know what, good. Some things need gate keeping otherwise you loose them. In the 2000's, many Goth clubs had a dress code. For financial reasons, many clubs dropped this, this lead to an increase in normal coming into the clubs, some of the men would leer inappropriately at the Goth girls and it lead to a few incidents. In the case of Whitby, its turned what was a Goth Music Festival, into a badly dressed, unorganised assembly. It's the reason to why the UK's main Goth Weekend isn't a Goth Weekend anymore and you have to go to Germany now. I mostly blame the Steampunks. They created a false representation that it was about peacocking about in some elaborate costume. Which is actually quite insulting. I never saw what I wore as some 'costume' and I was subjected to a lot abuse and discrimination for it. So I don't appreciate them ridiculing my scene as some costume event. A lot of people I knew felt this way. Anyway, the Steampunks brought photographers, with them more people to spot Goths, which brought more photographers, which then brought bus loads of people, some in fancy dress, which brought more photographers, until its avalanched out of control. The Steampunks have thier own weekend now but the damage has already been done. People no longer know its a Goth Music Festival. Being Goths is about being who you are, all the time, we don't technically need Whitby to be who we are. As it was an extension of what many of us did at home. I never wore anything that I would not do in Whitby. I just saw it as an excuse to see bands, 5 nights of clubs and markets and Goths. That's the difference, many people who go to Whitby would never do that in thier home town. Which is why they went to Whitby, they were worried about ridicule and knew in Whitby they wouldn't stand out. It's called Cosplay. It's a shame they just couldn't go to thier local Comic Con. At least the Germans don't have that annoying trait of trying to join in like some village d*unk at the local fair. They leave them to get on with it. Leipzig just lacks Whitby's charm though. Unfortunately whitby stopped being a goth music festival when the organiser was forced out of the spa. Other parties have tried to make a quick killing out of it by hiking the prices, but they've since realised they can't do it, hence they are only doing the music festival once a year. At least the original organiser is still doing her bit, even if it is back to basics like it used to be. The goth scene in the UK will never be like it was in the late 70s and early 80s, but the older generation will try to keep it going as we remember the beginning.. " I think the organiser was part to blame for loosing the main venue as she became difficult. Some may argue she deserved knocking down back to Earth. The irony is that they are now in a venue that was previously used for fringe events. I supported it as it was the main event, I never liked the bands and the Bram Stoke Film Festival had much better ones. I believe Tomorrows Ghost also has better ones. I miss what it was, 5 days of clubs, markets, all in a lovely old town. It will never be as good. The Goth scene in the Uk has really gone to shit in the last 10 years, clubs closing due to gentrification. My local scene is half the size it was. I always thought there would be more when I got older, not less but there is just so little choice today in most things. | |||
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"So anyway.... Who's going in April?? Got a spot for a little one @BuckCherry?? "We've got a king-size bed you might be able to squeeze into...lol.. | |||
"So anyway.... Who's going in April?? Got a spot for a little one @BuckCherry??
We've got a king-size bed you might be able to squeeze into...lol.."Would that be between the pair of you I'd be squeezing, by any chance??!!!  | |||
"So anyway.... Who's going in April?? Got a spot for a little one @BuckCherry??
We've got a king-size bed you might be able to squeeze into...lol..
Would that be between the pair of you I'd be squeezing, by any chance??!!! "Ummmmmmm, maybe..?? | |||
"I knew, I just knew that you would call me a 'gatekeeper'. Its the same song always sing by similar people. I have been called it before by Goths, weekend Goths and fancy dressers and you know what, good. Some things need gate keeping otherwise you loose them. In the 2000's, many Goth clubs had a dress code. For financial reasons, many clubs dropped this, this lead to an increase in normal coming into the clubs, some of the men would leer inappropriately at the Goth girls and it lead to a few incidents. In the case of Whitby, its turned what was a Goth Music Festival, into a badly dressed, unorganised assembly. It's the reason to why the UK's main Goth Weekend isn't a Goth Weekend anymore and you have to go to Germany now. I mostly blame the Steampunks. They created a false representation that it was about peacocking about in some elaborate costume. Which is actually quite insulting. I never saw what I wore as some 'costume' and I was subjected to a lot abuse and discrimination for it. So I don't appreciate them ridiculing my scene as some costume event. A lot of people I knew felt this way. Anyway, the Steampunks brought photographers, with them more people to spot Goths, which brought more photographers, which then brought bus loads of people, some in fancy dress, which brought more photographers, until its avalanched out of control. The Steampunks have thier own weekend now but the damage has already been done. People no longer know its a Goth Music Festival. Being Goths is about being who you are, all the time, we don't technically need Whitby to be who we are. As it was an extension of what many of us did at home. I never wore anything that I would not do in Whitby. I just saw it as an excuse to see bands, 5 nights of clubs and markets and Goths. That's the difference, many people who go to Whitby would never do that in thier home town. Which is why they went to Whitby, they were worried about ridicule and knew in Whitby they wouldn't stand out. It's called Cosplay. It's a shame they just couldn't go to thier local Comic Con. At least the Germans don't have that annoying trait of trying to join in like some village d*unk at the local fair. They leave them to get on with it. Leipzig just lacks Whitby's charm though." But your attitude is that you don't want any new people? My wife and I have recently become interested in the aesthetic of it, and the music so we are going to goth festival to explore it, but you're so elitist about it and you're the one who is deciding on your mind who is allowed to attend? What qualifies as someone who is allowed to attend in your mind, and why should your opinion be the one that counts? What you're doing is the dictionary definition of gatekeeping, so if the top hat fits... | |||
"I knew, I just knew that you would call me a 'gatekeeper'. Its the same song always sing by similar people. I have been called it before by Goths, weekend Goths and fancy dressers and you know what, good. Some things need gate keeping otherwise you loose them. In the 2000's, many Goth clubs had a dress code. For financial reasons, many clubs dropped this, this lead to an increase in normal coming into the clubs, some of the men would leer inappropriately at the Goth girls and it lead to a few incidents. In the case of Whitby, its turned what was a Goth Music Festival, into a badly dressed, unorganised assembly. It's the reason to why the UK's main Goth Weekend isn't a Goth Weekend anymore and you have to go to Germany now. I mostly blame the Steampunks. They created a false representation that it was about peacocking about in some elaborate costume. Which is actually quite insulting. I never saw what I wore as some 'costume' and I was subjected to a lot abuse and discrimination for it. So I don't appreciate them ridiculing my scene as some costume event. A lot of people I knew felt this way. Anyway, the Steampunks brought photographers, with them more people to spot Goths, which brought more photographers, which then brought bus loads of people, some in fancy dress, which brought more photographers, until its avalanched out of control. The Steampunks have thier own weekend now but the damage has already been done. People no longer know its a Goth Music Festival. Being Goths is about being who you are, all the time, we don't technically need Whitby to be who we are. As it was an extension of what many of us did at home. I never wore anything that I would not do in Whitby. I just saw it as an excuse to see bands, 5 nights of clubs and markets and Goths. That's the difference, many people who go to Whitby would never do that in thier home town. Which is why they went to Whitby, they were worried about ridicule and knew in Whitby they wouldn't stand out. It's called Cosplay. It's a shame they just couldn't go to thier local Comic Con. At least the Germans don't have that annoying trait of trying to join in like some village d*unk at the local fair. They leave them to get on with it. Leipzig just lacks Whitby's charm though. But your attitude is that you don't want any new people? My wife and I have recently become interested in the aesthetic of it, and the music so we are going to goth festival to explore it, but you're so elitist about it and you're the one who is deciding on your mind who is allowed to attend? What qualifies as someone who is allowed to attend in your mind, and why should your opinion be the one that counts? What you're doing is the dictionary definition of gatekeeping, so if the top hat fits... " Most of the people I know who are long term attendees, even the organiser herself don't like the direction its taken. You might be Alternative however there are a lot of people who now go who certainly aren't Goth. Its become a place to just go for normals at Halloween. | |||
