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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I have just applied for the Royal Marines! Absolutely shitting my pants but very excited

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple

I hope you're fit in mind and body

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I hope you're fit in mind and body"

I like to think I am

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By *amish SMan  over a year ago

Eastleigh

If you're bricking it now, maybe you're not cut out for the corps. You need to be scared by nothing, capable of being brain washed into the RM ethos, and fit as hell. Helps if you can't spell, some words like impossible, can't, couldn't, are not words they believe exist. A descriptive term that the matelots used 'sweating like a booty having spelling test' comes to mind.

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By *uminsiderMKMan  over a year ago

St Austell

Many aspire, but few achieve...

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"I have just applied for the Royal Marines! Absolutely shitting my pants but very excited "

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Do you like the taste of crayons?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Let me put a hood on you and you can get in the boot of my car. Maurice, bring the truck battery with those divine Croc clips.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have just applied for the Royal Marines! Absolutely shitting my pants but very excited "

Good luck with it hunni

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you're bricking it now, maybe you're not cut out for the corps. You need to be scared by nothing, capable of being brain washed into the RM ethos, and fit as hell. Helps if you can't spell, some words like impossible, can't, couldn't, are not words they believe exist. A descriptive term that the matelots used 'sweating like a booty having spelling test' comes to mind. "

Absolute pish

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Do you like the taste of crayons?"

This is a basic entry level for all infantry...I like the taste of the green ones the best

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk

I'm ex 45 Condor.

You have made the hardest step deciding to join the forces.

You will need to physically and mentally prepare yourself for your training.

If you have the correct mindset you will have no problem. Just keep the head down, try your hardest and listen to what your being taught.

Good luck and welcome to the world of the Bootneck.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"Do you like the taste of crayons?"

War cry of the cabbage mechanic

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By *avana8817Man  over a year ago

Consett

Mate you have some absolute donuts on this thread, saying maybe your not cut out for it if your scared, screams like an absolute Walt if you ask me. As for spelling???....Say that to a boot necks face or a squaddie, that sentence would not be finished as they would jump down your neck.

Being scared is normal, you are walking away from normal life into a situation most people only dream about...hence why there are so many Walter Mittys kicking about.

You are joining something special, something that will be with you for life.

Training is designed to teach you the mental mindset of difficult situations...when your getting beasted, just remember they can’t make you pregnant and once it’s over, you’ll be talking about those story’s for life, you will be part of something that is inspirational to most. You just have to remember to keep going, never give up,

Training is hard, it’s there to teach you that...it is there for a reason. If you give up in training, you’ll give up in a firefight. It’s designed to break you, so they can rebuild you. Times will be hard..wet and cold, your brothers will keep a smile on your face.

The harder the times the more you bond. When someone is shouting, picking you up on absolute anal stuff, just remember everyone has had to do it, put yourself in that screws position, he earned his beret, once you’ve reached his level would you want to let anyone wear it? Because you won’t, it will dilute what you’ve done and what your brothers before you have done.

They won’t expect you to be a marine on day 1, do some fitness before you go, training will be gradual not instant. Done some reading about the marines before you, go and try and talk to some veterans, the more you want it the less likely you’ll give up.

Enjoy it mate, if you want to PM me, more than happy to have a chat, I would want to support my fellow swinger lol rather than bring you down.

I can talk from experience, so I can talk to you exactly how I left that day I got on the train to leave my home life behind..guess What I was scared...best thing I ever did tho

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

Great post ^^^^

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By *avana8817Man  over a year ago

Consett

Thank you

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Thank you "

You're welcome. My brother was a Royal Marine, about 40 years ago though!

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By *layfullsamMan  over a year ago

Solihull


"If you're bricking it now, maybe you're not cut out for the corps. You need to be scared by nothing, capable of being brain washed into the RM ethos, and fit as hell. Helps if you can't spell, some words like impossible, can't, couldn't, are not words they believe exist. A descriptive term that the matelots used 'sweating like a booty having spelling test' comes to mind. "

Not true, quite a few hard people get scared it's facing, over coming and controlling it that matters.

If you're not scared of anything you'll do stupid things and put yourself and others at risk

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"Mate you have some absolute donuts on this thread, saying maybe your not cut out for it if your scared, screams like an absolute Walt if you ask me. As for spelling???....Say that to a boot necks face or a squaddie, that sentence would not be finished as they would jump down your neck.

Being scared is normal, you are walking away from normal life into a situation most people only dream about...hence why there are so many Walter Mittys kicking about.

You are joining something special, something that will be with you for life.

Training is designed to teach you the mental mindset of difficult situations...when your getting beasted, just remember they can’t make you pregnant and once it’s over, you’ll be talking about those story’s for life, you will be part of something that is inspirational to most. You just have to remember to keep going, never give up,

Training is hard, it’s there to teach you that...it is there for a reason. If you give up in training, you’ll give up in a firefight. It’s designed to break you, so they can rebuild you. Times will be hard..wet and cold, your brothers will keep a smile on your face.

The harder the times the more you bond. When someone is shouting, picking you up on absolute anal stuff, just remember everyone has had to do it, put yourself in that screws position, he earned his beret, once you’ve reached his level would you want to let anyone wear it? Because you won’t, it will dilute what you’ve done and what your brothers before you have done.

They won’t expect you to be a marine on day 1, do some fitness before you go, training will be gradual not instant. Done some reading about the marines before you, go and try and talk to some veterans, the more you want it the less likely you’ll give up.

Enjoy it mate, if you want to PM me, more than happy to have a chat, I would want to support my fellow swinger lol rather than bring you down.

I can talk from experience, so I can talk to you exactly how I left that day I got on the train to leave my home life behind..guess What I was scared...best thing I ever did tho "

I don't think anyone is being a walter mitty unless you are accusing me which I'm happy to prove my 22 year stint.

All the verbal slang and banter is part and parcel of the training.

If he is put off by random profile's on a swingers calling him name's, then i also would agree that his career choice may not be ideal.

Don't sugar coat it. Its hard. It's fucking brutal. Its just the way it is.

I wish the guy all the best. If he PVR's during training its not a drama its not for him.

Could be worse he could be wanting to join 1 PARA

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By *avana8817Man  over a year ago

Consett

If you read the posts above yours, you would understand which messages got my back up. At not one point does my post refer to yours.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"If you read the posts above yours, you would understand which messages got my back up. At not one point does my post refer to yours.

"

Why let it get your back up?

Its part and parcel of being in the military.

Your coming accross as being offended on his behalf.

It's veterans shooting the shit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Have you done your PRMC yet ?

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By *amish SMan  over a year ago

Eastleigh


"If you read the posts above yours, you would understand which messages got my back up. At not one point does my post refer to yours.

Why let it get your back up?

Its part and parcel of being in the military.

Your coming accross as being offended on his behalf.

It's veterans shooting the shit "

Well said, worked with a fair few over the years, under the waves and 7 years supporting assault group around the world. Some of the best laughs I had.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Have you done your PRMC yet ? "

Not yet, it has to be done over a video call with the current covid situation, my gcse results and all other documents are good and my application is being processed so it won’t be long

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London

What a crock of shit this thread really is.

Honestly, typical military attitude. You don't see fire fighters or health care professionals posting that they have just applied for jobs and sitting back waiting for the wave of applause and back skapping.

If you have decided that this is the career path for you op then congratulations, all the best witn it but so sick of the' thanks for your service' brigade.

Do these forces not get paid for the job they do????

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By *avana8817Man  over a year ago

Consett

Yes they get paid, have you seen how much? not pop star wages, for someone who is willing to literally loose life or limb. Walk away from a home life to serve his country 24/7, not 9-5.

How many firefighters or healthcare professionals do you know that had to miss their child’s birth because they were away and the job comes first? Or their parents are Ill and still had to go aboard to serve the country you are standing in.

Firefighters, healthcare professionals get celebrated where most military these days have to hide away. The first time I came back from Afghanistan, I had to get changed on a runway out of my uniform, so people on the train did not take offense to me and my mates being in the military or be a victim of a terrorist attack, Even tho I was serving this country.

Even now, students/blue light services get discounts left right and center without question, ask a veteran about military discounts, most places that suppose to take them don’t know they do or still refuse you. To gain military discounts now, you have to pay for a membership card to be entitled to one, even then students get higher discount rates.

What you don’t see is the rubbish veterans/military put up with, so this so called military attitude is something you have zero clue about, praise the lad he is willing to do something you are not prepared to do yourself, because one day you might need him to do something on your behalf.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Best decision you will make

Spent 15 years in the military and loved it

Go with the right mind set and don’t take the shouting and bollockings to heart

I left early 2000 and been working overseas ever since

Go and enjoy it

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London

For a start off, he will never be doing anything in my name.

I'm not knocking the lad for planning for his future at all, but i would advise him to stay well away any career in the military .

Totally agree with your point about the wages not being worth it, nevertheless its no secret so he should make sure he is prepared for that.

You don't get discount cards? Boo hoo. Is that why you signed up to serve your country? To claim a 10% discount in greggs??

The fact that you yad to get dressed on a runway is exactly what I am trying to say. I don't know where you served but I'm pretty sure the people who made the decision to deploy you couldn't give a rats ass about where you have to get changed or have even given you a seconds thought about you after you are no further use to them.

PS, the life and limb argument doesn't hold water, statistically you are more likely to ke killed or injured in the construction industry than you do in the army, which coincidentally is the industry most veterans end up in when the are no longer useful to the military

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By *amish SMan  over a year ago

Eastleigh

I suspect more end up in engineering and the service industry, than building industry. Most I know are in engineering usually in the big two defence contractors.

I would not discourage anyone from joining, try and they may like it.

After 31 years I got fed up dealing with superiors who were just idiots. Usually the dross from university that were not snapped up by the big companies. Thankfully the RM kept their training structure so officers have to do all the nod training plus additional training, this results in the marines having respect for their superiors. One thing I noticed when dealing with RM officers is that they would listen, unlike the idiots in the other arms.

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By *avana8817Man  over a year ago

Consett

Tell you what, I am down London quite often, how about we arrange to meet up and you can say the losing a life to my face doesn’t hold water or I’ll bring a few of my other friends that have lost legs etc. see where that comment lands you?

As for the discount card boo hoo? That’s not the point I was making, I was making the point of recognising the service, a blue light person is welcomed with open arms, same as a student where as Military are seen in different light. Probably from people with the exact personality of the likes of you, why have you got a negative view of the military did your girlfriend/wife end up cheating on you with a squaddie?

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"Tell you what, I am down London quie often, how about we arrange to meet up and you can say the losing a life to my face doesn’t hold water or I’ll bring a few of my other friends that have lost legs etc. see where that comment lands you?

As for the discount card boo hoo? That’s not the point I was making, I was making the point of recognising the service, a blue light person is welcomed with open arms, same as a student where as Military are seen in different light. Probably from people with the exact personality of the likes of you, why have you got a negative view of the military did your girlfriend/wife end up cheating on you with a squaddie? "

Why should the service be recognised?

What makes you any better than anyone else who goes to work to do a hard job? You are right, service personnel are seen in a different light but maybe you should ask yourself why. Maybe it's because of the attitude that some of you have to ordinary peoples opinions. (People who pay your wages by the way)

I have formed the opinion i have through my experiences. I feel that's how opinions should be formed.

I am more than happy to meet you, and as many of your mates as you care to take along, to discuss this further. Or to iron out our difference of opinion in whatever way you feel best suits the situation.

Private message me to arrange. ........

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By *avana8817Man  over a year ago

Consett

I have sent a message to your inbox

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"I have sent a message to your inbox "

Perfect, best way to deal with bullies......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Different now was in Army in early 70s Armoured corps stationed in Germany and Berlin (used patrol the wall)

You meet great mates and some right tossers germany was hard graft !!in pubs and squadron bars all the time

Diferent when we were in Northern Ireland serious stuff

Not nice looking at people shot in the head or blown up

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"I have sent a message to your inbox

Perfect, best way to deal with bullies......"

Waiting on your response mate.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"I have sent a message to your inbox

Perfect, best way to deal with bullies......

Waiting on your response mate."

I hope yous fo meet I know who my money’s on hope your a fast runner lol

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By *amish SMan  over a year ago

Eastleigh

From the above opinions vary, but seem to going in the same direction. No one these days is made to serve, unlike my father who in 1943 had to choose either the coal mines or the armed forces. Rightly or wrongly the days of national service are over. Those that do join these days know the bottom line.

As for the nurses, doctors and front line NHS staff, I really felt for them recently, they do their job to make people better, not watch some patients just pass away at the hands of a virus which in the following days could claim them.

Both organisations are voluntary, both have different goals. I support fully anyone who wishes to take either job on, and those that have in the past. Neither are pleasant careers, but are massively rewarding.

If the OP makes it to trained strength, then take advantage of everything open to you, the AT, the travel, specialist courses etc. You'll enjoy it and time will fly by.

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By *amish SMan  over a year ago

Eastleigh

Ohh, and fab vets weekend in London, great idea, could get messy though.

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"I have sent a message to your inbox

Perfect, best way to deal with bullies......

Waiting on your response mate. I hope yous fo meet I know who my money’s on hope your a fast runner lol"

You are probably right guys but iI'd rather meet a bully head on than run away.

My opinion may be different than his but is him beating me up going to change that opinion?

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk


"Tell you what, I am down London quie often, how about we arrange to meet up and you can say the losing a life to my face doesn’t hold water or I’ll bring a few of my other friends that have lost legs etc. see where that comment lands you?

As for the discount card boo hoo? That’s not the point I was making, I was making the point of recognising the service, a blue light person is welcomed with open arms, same as a student where as Military are seen in different light. Probably from people with the exact personality of the likes of you, why have you got a negative view of the military did your girlfriend/wife end up cheating on you with a squaddie?

Why should the service be recognised?

What makes you any better than anyone else who goes to work to do a hard job? You are right, service personnel are seen in a different light but maybe you should ask yourself why. Maybe it's because of the attitude that some of you have to ordinary peoples opinions. (People who pay your wages by the way)

I have formed the opinion i have through my experiences. I feel that's how opinions should be formed.

I am more than happy to meet you, and as many of your mates as you care to take along, to discuss this further. Or to iron out our difference of opinion in whatever way you feel best suits the situation.

Private message me to arrange. ........"

Was a squaddie banging your Mrs

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"Tell you what, I am down London quie often, how about we arrange to meet up and you can say the losing a life to my face doesn’t hold water or I’ll bring a few of my other friends that have lost legs etc. see where that comment lands you?

As for the discount card boo hoo? That’s not the point I was making, I was making the point of recognising the service, a blue light person is welcomed with open arms, same as a student where as Military are seen in different light. Probably from people with the exact personality of the likes of you, why have you got a negative view of the military did your girlfriend/wife end up cheating on you with a squaddie?

Why should the service be recognised?

What makes you any better than anyone else who goes to work to do a hard job? You are right, service personnel are seen in a different light but maybe you should ask yourself why. Maybe it's because of the attitude that some of you have to ordinary peoples opinions. (People who pay your wages by the way)

I have formed the opinion i have through my experiences. I feel that's how opinions should be formed.

I am more than happy to meet you, and as many of your mates as you care to take along, to discuss this further. Or to iron out our difference of opinion in whatever way you feel best suits the situation.

Private message me to arrange. ........

Was a squaddie banging your Mrs

"

No mate, i just received an education and don't want to be led like a sheep

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk


"Tell you what, I am down London quie often, how about we arrange to meet up and you can say the losing a life to my face doesn’t hold water or I’ll bring a few of my other friends that have lost legs etc. see where that comment lands you?

As for the discount card boo hoo? That’s not the point I was making, I was making the point of recognising the service, a blue light person is welcomed with open arms, same as a student where as Military are seen in different light. Probably from people with the exact personality of the likes of you, why have you got a negative view of the military did your girlfriend/wife end up cheating on you with a squaddie?

Why should the service be recognised?

What makes you any better than anyone else who goes to work to do a hard job? You are right, service personnel are seen in a different light but maybe you should ask yourself why. Maybe it's because of the attitude that some of you have to ordinary peoples opinions. (People who pay your wages by the way)

I have formed the opinion i have through my experiences. I feel that's how opinions should be formed.

I am more than happy to meet you, and as many of your mates as you care to take along, to discuss this further. Or to iron out our difference of opinion in whatever way you feel best suits the situation.

Private message me to arrange. ........

Was a squaddie banging your Mrs

No mate, i just received an education and don't want to be led like a sheep "

Ah ok. So did you go to decent university?

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London

Yes, is that not allowed?

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk

So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?"

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced."

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

"

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced."

Hmm. But your making assumptions on what you read and see in the media.

Have you served yourself? If not I can maybe explain why young people do join the forces a bit better.

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has."

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

Hmm. But your making assumptions on what you read and see in the media.

Have you served yourself? If not I can maybe explain why young people do join the forces a bit better."

I have extensive knowledge and experience of military life. I know how harsh it is on everyone, especially families.

I'm not in disagreement with you about the desire and opportunity to better themselves, I question the validity of sending the youth across the world to conflict areas, into danger for what end? To train young people for life after the army?

I'm going to take pelters for this but there hasn't been one conflict the armed forces has the right to send young people into danger zones for since 1945.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Our nephew surprised everyone by joining the marines, the first family member to ever join up

He passed and he's loving it,

currently doing piracy and narcotics in far flung places

He's seen more so far then most of us will ever see in his first 2 years

Even did a stint in Miami that he said was more holiday then work

his life experiences will be something ill never have

go for it or you could spend the rest of your life thinking what if

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector? "

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces."

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I joined as a teen with basic qualifications, progressed and joined the regiment or Hereford as we are also known. Now I serve in SCO19, I've had a fantastic career, life, discipline, hurt, sadness, loss but life experience strength. All thanks to the military for shaping.

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

Hmm. But your making assumptions on what you read and see in the media.

Have you served yourself? If not I can maybe explain why young people do join the forces a bit better.

I have extensive knowledge and experience of military life. I know how harsh it is on everyone, especially families.

I'm not in disagreement with you about the desire and opportunity to better themselves, I question the validity of sending the youth across the world to conflict areas, into danger for what end? To train young people for life after the army?

I'm going to take pelters for this but there hasn't been one conflict the armed forces has the right to send young people into danger zones for since 1945."

But as a young adult (18+) it's a decision that the individual joining is well aware of.

If you have served you will be aware of your life situation at the time and the reason you joined. No such thing as national service anymore.

As for training when you leave the forces, there are hundreds of tranferable skills that can be used in civillian life.

As for conflicts, thats the lure.

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

Hmm. But your making assumptions on what you read and see in the media.

Have you served yourself? If not I can maybe explain why young people do join the forces a bit better.

I have extensive knowledge and experience of military life. I know how harsh it is on everyone, especially families.

I'm not in disagreement with you about the desire and opportunity to better themselves, I question the validity of sending the youth across the world to conflict areas, into danger for what end? To train young people for life after the army?

I'm going to take pelters for this but there hasn't been one conflict the armed forces has the right to send young people into danger zones for since 1945.

But as a young adult (18+) it's a decision that the individual joining is well aware of.

If you have served you will be aware of your life situation at the time and the reason you joined. No such thing as national service anymore.

As for training when you leave the forces, there are hundreds of tranferable skills that can be used in civillian life.

As for conflicts, thats the lure.

"

Ah i see, the lure of fighting in conflict zones far away from home with the odds stacked in their favour against societies who have done nothing on us is how we should be hoping our youth see themselves.

Spoken like a true aggressor.

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

Hmm. But your making assumptions on what you read and see in the media.

Have you served yourself? If not I can maybe explain why young people do join the forces a bit better.

I have extensive knowledge and experience of military life. I know how harsh it is on everyone, especially families.

I'm not in disagreement with you about the desire and opportunity to better themselves, I question the validity of sending the youth across the world to conflict areas, into danger for what end? To train young people for life after the army?

I'm going to take pelters for this but there hasn't been one conflict the armed forces has the right to send young people into danger zones for since 1945.

But as a young adult (18+) it's a decision that the individual joining is well aware of.

If you have served you will be aware of your life situation at the time and the reason you joined. No such thing as national service anymore.

As for training when you leave the forces, there are hundreds of tranferable skills that can be used in civillian life.

As for conflicts, thats the lure.

Ah i see, the lure of fighting in conflict zones far away from home with the odds stacked in their favour against societies who have done nothing on us is how we should be hoping our youth see themselves.

Spoken like a true aggressor."

And yet you look at other societies with the exact same agenda.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security. "

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

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By *kdazMan  over a year ago

nottingham \ linc

Good luck enjoy ever min your going to do things no one will understand or believe you have done train hard fight easy stay safe

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it. "

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be."

Your right your background doesn't make a difference.

So let's stick to reality.

The armed forces is a viable and career for many young men and women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mate you have some absolute donuts on this thread, saying maybe your not cut out for it if your scared, screams like an absolute Walt if you ask me. As for spelling???....Say that to a boot necks face or a squaddie, that sentence would not be finished as they would jump down your neck.

Being scared is normal, you are walking away from normal life into a situation most people only dream about...hence why there are so many Walter Mittys kicking about.

You are joining something special, something that will be with you for life.

Training is designed to teach you the mental mindset of difficult situations...when your getting beasted, just remember they can’t make you pregnant and once it’s over, you’ll be talking about those story’s for life, you will be part of something that is inspirational to most. You just have to remember to keep going, never give up,

Training is hard, it’s there to teach you that...it is there for a reason. If you give up in training, you’ll give up in a firefight. It’s designed to break you, so they can rebuild you. Times will be hard..wet and cold, your brothers will keep a smile on your face.

The harder the times the more you bond. When someone is shouting, picking you up on absolute anal stuff, just remember everyone has had to do it, put yourself in that screws position, he earned his beret, once you’ve reached his level would you want to let anyone wear it? Because you won’t, it will dilute what you’ve done and what your brothers before you have done.

They won’t expect you to be a marine on day 1, do some fitness before you go, training will be gradual not instant. Done some reading about the marines before you, go and try and talk to some veterans, the more you want it the less likely you’ll give up.

Enjoy it mate, if you want to PM me, more than happy to have a chat, I would want to support my fellow swinger lol rather than bring you down.

I can talk from experience, so I can talk to you exactly how I left that day I got on the train to leave my home life behind..guess What I was scared...best thing I ever did tho "

I couldn't have said this any better! Welcome to the forces comrade!!

Royal marines 99.9% need not apply

Rooting for you mate and think the green beret will suit u!

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be.

Your right your background doesn't make a difference.

So let's stick to reality.

The armed forces is a viable and career for many young men and women.

"

Agreed. Viable but unnecessarily dangerous.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be.

Your right your background doesn't make a difference.

So let's stick to reality.

The armed forces is a viable and career for many young men and women.

Agreed. Viable but unnecessarily dangerous. "

As someone said above thats what appeals to the younger generation.

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be.

Your right your background doesn't make a difference.

So let's stick to reality.

The armed forces is a viable and career for many young men and women.

Agreed. Viable but unnecessarily dangerous.

As someone said above thats what appeals to the younger generation.

"

I find that disgusting. In that case, anyone who goes looking for danger can expect no sympathy when they find it.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple  over a year ago

Falkirk


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be.

Your right your background doesn't make a difference.

So let's stick to reality.

The armed forces is a viable and career for many young men and women.

Agreed. Viable but unnecessarily dangerous.

As someone said above thats what appeals to the younger generation.

I find that disgusting. In that case, anyone who goes looking for danger can expect no sympathy when they find it."

You may find it disgusting but again that's the reality of it.

The individual signing up is well aware of the risks and chooses to proceed knowing they could pay the ultimate price.

I don't know what your agenda is, but I doubt the young man that posted will be having second thoughts on joining.

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


"So because you got a decent university education, that makes you better than those that joined or are thinking of joining the armed forces?

Absolutely not. The op has started a thread about him joining the marines. I am of the opinion that young guys joining the military to put themselves through hell training, travelling far from home to put themselves in grave danger for an establishment who ultimately disregard them is a bad idea.

I welcome the discussion that arises when the opposing point of view is voiced.

OK cool. So why do you think young men and women choose a career path in the armed forces and don't want to go to university to further educate themselves?

The reason I ask is my oldest son joined the forces. He wasn't the most academic at school so university for him was never an option.

College was an option or an apprenticeship however these are few and far between these days.

He decied to join the REME and is now serving with the Army Aircore as a an avionics technician.

I know myself without the drive and discipline from the Army he would probably never achieved what he has.

I commend him for doing so, and for being of enough strong character to get through it.

I'm not trying to evoke a personal response but in your heart of hearts, can you honestly say that you are glad he is in the military? Wouldn't you much rather he had the opportunity to fulfil his potential without having to travel away from home, without the systematic bullying and in the relative safety of the private sector?

Honestly. His dad is an aggressive alcoholic, 2 out of his 3 step brothers have been in and out of jail most of there adult lives.

When I met my now husband he was serving and he was the best influence on my son at the time.

My son even says himself that he was never presured into joining the forces but it just felt right.

Yes I worry about him as I did my hubby but he is happy and loves his job.

He would never have been where he is now if it wasn't for the forces.

I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree. I think it's disgusting as a society that the failures of our successful governments to provide meaningful employment means that any young persons best options in life are to join the countries military.

I wish him safety and security.

Then I would say you are pretty much disconnected from the modern youth.

You have had the privilege of a university career that thousands of families can't afford.

It's great to be able to say lets not have an army and give all our young people the opportunity to have a prosperous careers in life but that's not the reality is it.

I paid for my own education. I'm from a broken home.

And questioning my background doesn't make any difference to the overall argument.

I agree that it isn't the reality......but it should be.

Your right your background doesn't make a difference.

So let's stick to reality.

The armed forces is a viable and career for many young men and women.

Agreed. Viable but unnecessarily dangerous.

As someone said above thats what appeals to the younger generation.

I find that disgusting. In that case, anyone who goes looking for danger can expect no sympathy when they find it.

You may find it disgusting but again that's the reality of it.

The individual signing up is well aware of the risks and chooses to proceed knowing they could pay the ultimate price.

I don't know what your agenda is, but I doubt the young man that posted will be having second thoughts on joining. "

I don't have an agenda, just an opinion.

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

Falkirk

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By *ITJOEMan  over a year ago

London


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Eye rolling, wonderful debating technique lol.

You've convinced me, you're right, I'm wrong. ...lol

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman  over a year ago

The place where fairies live


"Mate you have some absolute donuts on this thread, saying maybe your not cut out for it if your scared, screams like an absolute Walt if you ask me. As for spelling???....Say that to a boot necks face or a squaddie, that sentence would not be finished as they would jump down your neck.

Being scared is normal, you are walking away from normal life into a situation most people only dream about...hence why there are so many Walter Mittys kicking about.

You are joining something special, something that will be with you for life.

Training is designed to teach you the mental mindset of difficult situations...when your getting beasted, just remember they can’t make you pregnant and once it’s over, you’ll be talking about those story’s for life, you will be part of something that is inspirational to most. You just have to remember to keep going, never give up,

Training is hard, it’s there to teach you that...it is there for a reason. If you give up in training, you’ll give up in a firefight. It’s designed to break you, so they can rebuild you. Times will be hard..wet and cold, your brothers will keep a smile on your face.

The harder the times the more you bond. When someone is shouting, picking you up on absolute anal stuff, just remember everyone has had to do it, put yourself in that screws position, he earned his beret, once you’ve reached his level would you want to let anyone wear it? Because you won’t, it will dilute what you’ve done and what your brothers before you have done.

They won’t expect you to be a marine on day 1, do some fitness before you go, training will be gradual not instant. Done some reading about the marines before you, go and try and talk to some veterans, the more you want it the less likely you’ll give up.

Enjoy it mate, if you want to PM me, more than happy to have a chat, I would want to support my fellow swinger lol rather than bring you down.

I can talk from experience, so I can talk to you exactly how I left that day I got on the train to leave my home life behind..guess What I was scared...best thing I ever did tho "

THIS

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have just applied for the Royal Marines! Absolutely shitting my pants but very excited "

What made you apply

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By *oldswarriorMan  over a year ago

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Eye rolling, wonderful debating technique lol.

You've convinced me, you're right, I'm wrong. ...lol"

Not really. You have accused me of being a "true aggressor".

Does that make you a "true victim" in this case?

Like you said above its just your opinion. Nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I served in 42 best time of my life family for life get your mindset right keep your head down and work hard to get your green lid good luck

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By *ohnwpMan  over a year ago

stockenchurch

Good post - don't ever give up, not even a little bit (that's the start of your downfall as next time quiting becomes easier)

Remember they have all been there and they aren't allowed to kill you in training!

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By *F100Couple  over a year ago

ashford

My Uncle (in his 80s now) was a Marine. Amazing man and because of him, I very nearly signed up when I was (a lot) younger but changed my mind at the last minute. Part of me wishes I had persevered but maybe it was not meant to be.

Any how, much respect to you for going for it.

We always take part in the Commando Series obstacle course / run event put on by and in aid of the Royal Marines Charity each near at Hever Castle, A far cry from “the real thing” of course but great fun for a good cause.

Good luck for the future.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good luck bro and a thankyou to anyone reading who is serving or has served in the past

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By *pandjMan  over a year ago

Sparkford

Bit of a wierd thing to post on this type of site TBH!

Good luck and enjoyed my time as a bootneck but looking back I shouldve done the initial 4 years and changed to the RN sooner.

At least you get 3 years GD now as it was only 1 year before you got pinged to be sigs/clerk/stores/driver.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

UPDATE*** well damaged my knee on a run the other night! Could hardly put any weight on my left leg to start, had 1 session with a physio for a sports massage and things are looking up, was supposed to have my interview with my sgt tomorrow but after speaking to him on Friday he advised putting it back until I’m fit and ready to go! Thanks for the positive comments guys! Appreciate it!

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