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FED UP with MF couples where M fears BISEXUAL MEN!!!!

By *inky Bunny OP Man over a year ago

Cardiff

What is it with straight M who absolutely refuse all MF action between their F & a bisexual M, not knowing that a bisexual M is NOT gay but fucks F as a straight M does & is not about to grab his cock!?!

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My thoughts are as follows :

Some couples won't meet bi males

Some will

Concentrate on the ones that will and not the ones that won't

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No problems here, if that helps.

If everyone knows where the boundaries are then there should be no issue.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I total agree its not fair to imply that just because you are bi that deems you incapable of controlling yourself. bi gals get a simular attitude. Couples assume its a done deed that I will entertain the male by servicing the female just because they bother to say hi. Bi men are treated unfairly by the attitude that they will jump on anything when not wanted and bi gals by the attitude that we will jump on anything just because a couple have 'found' her.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I total agree its not fair to imply that just because you are bi that deems you incapable of controlling yourself. bi gals get a simular attitude. Couples assume its a done deed that I will entertain the male by servicing the female just because they bother to say hi. Bi men are treated unfairly by the attitude that they will jump on anything when not wanted and bi gals by the attitude that we will jump on anything just because a couple have 'found' her. "

totally agree and to be honest we have far better taste as well

i mean who would want to suck on a straight lolly pop@??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not always the male that has no interest in meeting bi guys, women have a choice too, surprisingly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not always the male that has no interest in meeting bi guys, women have a choice too, surprisingly. "

Was about to say the same! At the end of the day it's about choice, there is people that meet bi guys out there, be happy and enjoy

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I agree with the OP that bi and gay men get an unfair press. Just because they like men, doesn't mean they want to shag them all! But I also agree with Bussy - look for the people who want to meet you, not the people who don't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We all have choices.

Many here may state in one way or another that they seek or are here to meet like minded people, so if mind sets are different or simply choices then like minded doesn't apply, seek those that would appreciate you.

And why should anyone accept your choices if you won't accept theirs?.

In a threesome, it's a three way thing for all three to enjoy, if any are put off for any reason at all then it shouldn't happen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont meet bi guys. That is my preference, its because i dont like the idea that he will shag anything he can get his hands on, and i have no idea where hes been, or rather i do. It may make me a hypocrite. But this site is all about choices and like the OP says, go for the couples that like the same as you do and not the ones that dont.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My thoughts are as follows :

Some couples won't meet bi males

Some will

Concentrate on the ones that will and not the ones that won't

Add ... 'and STOP moaning', to that...

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By *i de BiCouple over a year ago

Leicester

We have to fend off the straight guys ....who pretend they are bi.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I Susan totally agree, my hubby always prefers ladies and certainly doesn't go for the M half all the time! It is extra to us(and only when there is attraction on both sides as well as consent) not essential! At the end of the day it is the other peoples loss because we are fab at what we do!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have to fend off the straight guys ....who pretend they are bi.

I don't follow... Surely they must actually be bi but are claiming to be straight - I blocked single guys from messaging me, because lots of 'straight' guys were offering me 'NSA, on the quiet blow jobs' - not something I want, or wanted at all. Clearly, however, there are those on here who are not being honest about they're sexuality

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By *encarolCouple over a year ago

Tyneside

weve met a few couples were the male is bi , it dosnt bother us , as long as people abide by the rules , then no problem at all .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We don't meet bi men, not because of me though, it's because Shaz don't want to meet them.

Where the assumption comes from that it's always because of the male 1/2 of the couple I don't know.

Tony

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By *exki11enWoman over a year ago

Bristol

"I dont meet bi guys. That is my preference, its because i dont like the idea that he will shag anything he can get his hands on, and i have no idea where hes been, or rather i do. "

Wow! Interesting opinion from someone whose listed as Bi Curious themselves!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont meet bi guys. That is my preference, its because i dont like the idea that he will shag anything he can get his hands on, and i have no idea where hes been, or rather i do.

Wow! Interesting opinion from someone whose listed as Bi Curious themselves!"

Liking purple doesn't mean you have to like blue and red.

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By *i de BiCouple over a year ago

Leicester

"We have to fend off the straight guys ....who pretend they are bi.

now we are getting into another subject covered many times in the forum about being honest with the sexuality. In the last week we have had serveral straight guys message us trying their luck who have said they are not bi.

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By *inky Bunny OP Man over a year ago

Cardiff

"I dont meet bi guys. That is my preference, its because i dont like the idea that he will shag anything he can get his hands on, and i have no idea where hes been, or rather i do. It may make me a hypocrite. But this site is all about choices and like the OP says, go for the couples that like the same as you do and not the ones that dont."

Not only is this comment ignorant, bigoted & plain horrible, but it ignores entirely the points made in the OP!

In fact most commentators have overlooked the fact that I was talking specifically about MF couples who FEAR bisexual men refusing to play with them for fear the M may get molested!

How blind! Bisexual = straight when with F & = NOT gay.

But thank you to all for the revealing comments x

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"We all have choices.

And why should anyone accept your choices if you won't accept theirs?.

In a threesome, it's a three way thing for all three to enjoy, if any are put off for any reason at all then it shouldn't happen."

Well said that man.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If a straight male is unnerved by the presence of a male that finds other males sexually attractive - even at times - then he doesn't have to play OR explain himself.

If a straight male is unnerved by the presence of a male that finds other males sexually attractive - even at times - then he'd be stupid to put himself into a sexual scenario knowing he would feel that way.

If a straight male is unnerved by the presence of a male that finds other males sexually attractive - even at times - he is wise not to get involved until he can come to terms with it but in fact has NO obligation to do so.

If a woman felt unnerved in the company of certain men no question would be asked about why she was hesitant.

The straight male is doing nothing wrong.

Find yourself males who don't mind playing with you.

What you are actually saying is .... All straight males should be willing to play with bi guys around.

They don't have to be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So bi means you don't have standards wow I must look up the definition of bi again as I say I bi but to me that means I am lucky enough to be able to play with either gender should the desire be there for all involved I didn't realise Iv actually means fuck anything with a pulse.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Not only is this comment ignorant, bigoted & plain horrible, but it ignores entirely the points made in the OP!

In fact most commentators have overlooked the fact that I was talking specifically about MF couples who FEAR bisexual men refusing to play with them for fear the M may get molested!

How blind! Bisexual = straight when with F & = NOT gay.

But thank you to all for the revealing comments x

Why do you assume they fear bi men? It's been mentioned it's not always the male half that doesn't want to play with bi men.

I don't understand why people can't accept they'll NEVER appeal to everyone so why not concentrate on "like minded" people instead of those not interested.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So what?!

What let other people's preferences distract one from having fun?

Why try to right something that is beyond one's control?

Life is too short etc. etc...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't worry - you bi girls are not the problem - it's only the bi/curious guys that are that way so they can double their chances!

NOT!!!!!!

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By *ENDAROOSCouple over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

Didn't realise that being bi means you will shag anything...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i thought this site was about choices but again on forum someone moaning about people choosen not to like them or want to meet them. adults have choices so u can choose to moan or u can get on with people who do want to meet you x

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"What is it with straight M who absolutely refuse all MF action between their F & a bisexual M, not knowing that a bisexual M is NOT gay but fucks F as a straight M does & is not about to grab his cock!?!

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

My thoughts are....why do a lot of bi men accuse MF couples of being scared that a bi man is going to jump the male half so refuse to meet them.

As far as I am concerned, whatever their reasons ( for most of them I am guessing it ISN'T for the reason you are accusing people of )people can say no for whatever reason they want.

It could well be a simple reason of they don't like someones pic or more than likely their attitude.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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Hang on a minute.....how do you know anyway? Are you seeing lots of profiles saying " don't come near me if you are bi as you want to shag the male half and we know it and we are in fear of you !!"?

What are your comments based on?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i got a pulse .. so when we gonna shag

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Will prob get flamed for this but not worried lol

The reason we don't meet bi guys.

Shaz find's watching anything to do with 2 or more men a turn of.

If we was to meet a bi man (like we did once) then Sharon can't help but keep thinking about it thus she ends up not enjoying the meet.

Myself (being 100% straight), bi, gay straight don't make no odds to me, I have gay and a bi in my family plus my best mate at school was bi.

So it's not always the male 1/2 of the couple...

Tony

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

can't get flamed for being honest m8

Never minded Bi guys approaching us, as long as you outline what you want from the get-go there's usually never a problem. Bi guys are very good like that.

Wolf

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By *4FantasyCouple over a year ago

Spalding

"Will prob get flamed for this but not worried lol

The reason we don't meet bi guys.

Shaz find's watching anything to do with 2 or more men a turn of.

If we was to meet a bi man (like we did once) then Sharon can't help but keep thinking about it thus she ends up not enjoying the meet.

Myself (being 100% straight), bi, gay straight don't make no odds to me, I have gay and a bi in my family plus my best mate at school was bi.

So it's not always the male 1/2 of the couple...

Tony

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Personally, I think it's a true statement, and I agree with it, BUT I also realise it's not the same for everyone.

I don't think that sexuality is a constant, and sometimes you feel inclined to be a little more one way than the other : IE I have played with several couples, and they have been straight, and have found it equally as pleasureable as playing with the couples I have met that have been bi. Sometimes you feel attracted to the situation more than others. As long as the boundaries are set beforehand, then everyone is happy.

I think that with the "bi thing"- you have to feel attracted to the other person - and sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt - nothing is written in stone and no 2 situations are ever the same.

What I think the main problem that people have with bi-males is that a large number of them lie on their profiles, and that if you lie about your tendencies, then what else will you lie about?

Tricky subject really, but ultimately I think "horses for courses" nothing is written in stone- just chat it out with your prospective meets- set the ground rules and see what happens.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

for us, its the chance his cock has been balls deep in shit, and as we only do ora with others, it turns Em off like you wouldnt believe.

nothing to do with me being bummed or not, and everything to do with perception.

as has been said, its not always the male half of the couples decision

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"for us, its the chance his cock has been balls deep in shit, and as we only do ora with others, it turns Em off like you wouldnt believe.

nothing to do with me being bummed or not, and everything to do with perception.

as has been said, its not always the male half of the couples decision"

So you'd not meet a straight guy who has done anal with a woman??

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"for us, its the chance his cock has been balls deep in shit, and as we only do ora with others, it turns Em off like you wouldnt believe.

nothing to do with me being bummed or not, and everything to do with perception.

as has been said, its not always the male half of the couples decision

So you'd not meet a straight guy who has done anal with a woman??

if we asked the question and they answered in that way then of course not.

whats the difference between a man and womans bottom on the inside?

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"for us, its the chance his cock has been balls deep in shit, and as we only do ora with others, it turns Em off like you wouldnt believe.

nothing to do with me being bummed or not, and everything to do with perception.

as has been said, its not always the male half of the couples decision

So you'd not meet a straight guy who has done anal with a woman??

if we asked the question and they answered in that way then of course not.

whats the difference between a man and womans bottom on the inside?"

I hope you mean at a club, because most people do wash between meets.

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

We meet both straight and bi cpls on the understanding that Mac is straight and wont have any interaction with bi males having said that we dont have any issues with bi males.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

What also surprises me is that half the time the fem is bi

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What also surprises me is that half the time the fem is bi"

So if a female is bi she should like bi men then ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Even if he is straight he could of contracted something from another female so dont get your point

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Beautifully put.......A BIG +1 to that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i think you will find most of the Bisexual guys on here are oraly bi its just a shame there is not prefrence to oraly bi

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Beautifully put.......A BIG +1 to that"

I agree

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By *orth West CoupleCouple over a year ago

liverpool

"If a straight male is unnerved by the presence of a male that finds other males sexually attractive - even at times - then he doesn't have to play OR explain himself.

If a woman felt unnerved in the company of certain men no question would be asked about why she was hesitant.

The straight male is doing nothing wrong.

Find yourself males who don't mind playing with you.

What you are actually saying is .... All straight males should be willing to play with bi guys around.

They don't have to be."

Totally agree, We would not mess with a Bi-Guy for all those reasons

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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Many couples, including us, do not invite bi-sexual men to join them for threesomes because they are aware that statistically bi-sexual men are far more likely to have sexually transmitted diseases than heterosexual men.We are among them.

Why do so many people need things like this spelled out?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

perhaps thats just an excuse they give after reading your profile...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"for us, its the chance his cock has been balls deep in shit"

That doesn't put other bisexual men off wanting to suck another's cock - perhaps they're corprophiliacs...

...or maybe that bareback anal sex is regarded as as big a no no in LGBT circles as bareback vaginal penetration is in swinging circles.

Don't die of ignorance

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i think you will find most of the Bisexual guys on here are oraly bi its just a shame there is not prefrence to oraly bi"

Oh how ridiculous. If a man who is attracted to women like sucking other men's cocks then he is bisexual, full stop.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MY fella is bi (chris) i myself am straight (chelsea), we recently had a meet cancelled as the other side suddenly noticed its him thats bi and not her....apparently our male bi fem str8 combo is unusual.... we were both quite offended and and insulted. The comment about higher STI rate I find interesting....perhaps shield some homophobia....whay does sexuality matter if you practice safe sex ??? You as swingers....like ourselves are in the higher risk group for STI infections...same as bi men. Your tarred with same brush

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

What also surprises me is that half the time the fem is bi"

I've never understood this, let's put it this way, because I find attractive women and more so two women enjoying each other, that must mean I enjoy two men enjoying each other?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

male here is straight but has no issues at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've never understood this, let's put it this way, because I find attractive women and more so two women enjoying each other, that must mean I enjoy two men enjoying each other?

No your entitled to sexual preferences and are off course free to act upon them as you see fit...why should you participate in a sexual act your uncomfortable with...BUT... female bi is ok...male bi is not smacks off a double standard and intolrance.... its not an accusation its an observation.

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

"[Many couples, including us, do not invite bi-sexual men to join them for threesomes because they are aware that statistically bi-sexual men are far more likely to have sexually transmitted diseases than heterosexual men.We are among them.

Why do so many people need things like this spelled out?"

I would be interested to know your views on the NHS/Stonewall survey that found 50% of Lesbian and Bi-sexual women tested had some kind of STI!

Perhaps you had better stop playing with Bi fems too?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do so many people need things like this spelled out?

I would be interested to know your views on the NHS/Stonewall survey that found 50% of Lesbian and Bi-sexual women tested had some kind of STI!

Perhaps you had better stop playing with Bi fems too?

Exactly my point above.... AS SWINGERS we are ALL in the higher risk group !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've never understood this, let's put it this way, because I find attractive women and more so two women enjoying each other, that must mean I enjoy two men enjoying each other?

If one is to frown on bi males but not bi females, then yes that's double standards, but if there is no frowning just preference then that is not double standards but simply choice.

If a couple seek bi fem because they both have that preference then why should they have to entertain bi males?

works the other way around too.

To say bisexuality in male but not female is wrong, then yes double standards, but to choose to play or not to play is choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

If someone is not comfortable, then they're not comfortable. It's their choice. There are loads of couples out there with bisexual males. Why so keen to play with the straight ones?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I (male) like some bi men, don't like others.... happen to be straight so don't fancy any of them.... strange thing is I like some straight guys, and guess what.... don't like others!!

It's about the person sexuality doesn't come in to it, and a word before, or a gesture during in a club or group situation is enough to control who does what where, never really a problem.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

If someone is not comfortable, then they're not comfortable. It's their choice. There are loads of couples out there with bisexual males. Why so keen to play with the straight ones?

Im unaware of ever in the forums or in our profile off ever saying or intimating that were especially KEEN to meet with str8 males. thats an assumption on your part.... also I defended the self same rights you did....your post does in no way deal with the point of double standards or intolerance I raised.

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By *uicyjaynkinkykayCouple over a year ago

slough

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I (male) like some bi men, don't like others.... happen to be straight so don't fancy any of them.... strange thing is I like some straight guys, and guess what.... don't like others!!

It's about the person sexuality doesn't come in to it, and a word before, or a gesture during in a club or group situation is enough to control who does what where, never really a problem."

This sounds similar to how chris sees it, he says he feels he is maybe 75% women and 25% male regarding sexuality...there are very often men he does not find attractive sexually....and women also

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By *amBiUKMan over a year ago

Plymouth

I totally agree with you pal !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

If someone is not comfortable, then they're not comfortable. It's their choice. There are loads of couples out there with bisexual males. Why so keen to play with the straight ones?

First, I wasn't talking to you. I was answering the OP.

Second, it wasn't a statement. It was a question as I genuinely wanted to know.

And finally, I wasn't making any assumptions. If anyone was assuming in anything, it's you.

I honestly don't give a monkey's who you want to play with. It was just my curiosity that drew me to the thread.

So here's a question to you: I quoted the OP's question. Why did it rattle your cage?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

If someone is not comfortable, then they're not comfortable. It's their choice. There are loads of couples out there with bisexual males. Why so keen to play with the straight ones?

First, I wasn't talking to you. I was answering the OP.

Second, it wasn't a statement. It was a question as I genuinely wanted to know.

And finally, I wasn't making any assumptions. If anyone was assuming in anything, it's you.

I honestly don't give a monkey's who you want to play with. It was just my curiosity that drew me to the thread.

So here's a question to you: I quoted the OP's question. Why did it rattle your cage?

SAME as you....subject interests me...as for my interest...see my post an hour ago here. Having taken time to read your profile text I can see why your so defensive....is all that anti-bi stuff really neccesary.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

Our thoughts are as follows: The idea that a bi guy is gonna grab any cock he can has no bearing on why some couples won't meet.

The fact is, just the knowledge that the guy your meeting has had sex with another guy is a complete turn off to some couples, us included.

Why not just meet the couples who want to meet bi guys, there are hundreds on the site, and stop whinging about those that don't.

No matter what reason they have for not meeting, whinging won't change their preferences, just accept it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

If someone is not comfortable, then they're not comfortable. It's their choice. There are loads of couples out there with bisexual males. Why so keen to play with the straight ones?

First, I wasn't talking to you. I was answering the OP.

Second, it wasn't a statement. It was a question as I genuinely wanted to know.

And finally, I wasn't making any assumptions. If anyone was assuming in anything, it's you.

I honestly don't give a monkey's who you want to play with. It was just my curiosity that drew me to the thread.

So here's a question to you: I quoted the OP's question. Why did it rattle your cage?

Yes it is actually because it avoids confusion. There have been many threads trying to define the lines of bisexuality and for some people here, the lines are blurred. I have no issue with bisexuality but there are a lot of men here who say they're are straight but engage in behaviour that suggests otherwise. It's possible that plays a big part.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will happily meet bi fems, but won't meet bi males! Not being predudiced, just my preference! Or being greedy, lol,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???"

Where does intolerance come into it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?"

your accepting of bi women during sex play....but unaccepting of bi males during sex play.....working on the assumption you wud not be sexually active with the bi-guy....but still opt out.... is that intolerance ?

If I for eg declared I would happily fuck any man...as long as he was white...you would accuse me of racial intollerance....if I sais I only fucked christians I would be being religeously intolerant..... are they really so different.... ?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

who was the person saying how lovely swingers were...clearly didnt read this post

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

So what's the answer then?

Everyone shag everyone regardless of preference?

Sounds like PC craziness to me.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"[Removed by poster at 07/05/12 21:53:16]

Why do so many people need things like this spelled out?"

because it bollocks...do u know the fastest growing group with sti's...women who share sex toys but dont use condoms...

There is no nhs collation of "bi men" data...there is simply men who have sex with other men, the nhs gave up years ago trying to pigeonhole ppl as bi or gay.

Sex in this context means penetrative anal...

your prejudice would be amusing if it didnt mean u were far more likely to catch a sti through ignorance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

Nope, that's your preference and there is a massive difference babe and lets be honest, you're not gonna find many christians swinging! lol

I can see (by your profile) why this has got your attention but women are the same way towards other women who are bi.

Ask yourself this, what scenario would you prefer? two men who would happily play with each other as well as you or two men playing with you with the guy strategically manoeuvring away from your partner? You can only choose one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We don't meet Bi guys TV's TS's or people that have gotten together with them. The reason.......BECAUSE ITS OUR CHOICE!!

Just get over it and move on already!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

So what's the answer then?

Everyone shag everyone regardless of preference?

Sounds like PC craziness to me.

As I said earlier....id defend anyone against taking part in a sexual activity they find uncomfortable..... but this deep set feeling within individuals against a minority (in this case bi-men) is an act of intolerance in my view...... if we meet a cpl and they say my fellas totally str8....but still go on to have fun ok....but to walk away....given that the bi-guy has declared no male to male contact.....is being intollerant..... if your doing this because u have some inner feeling that turns u off....thats simply deep set within intolerance.... its always been much harder for bi/gay males to be open than bi/lesbian women...... bi/lesbian women were not acceptable in the past....were shunned.....I wonder if this intolerance over time as society evolves dissapears.....

Its interesting to see different views here amongst people who are probally more open minded than most....yet still within this group....there is intollerance hiding insipidly behing a veil off choice. I wonder how bi men will be percieved in say a 100 years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"for us, its the chance his cock has been balls deep in shit, and as we only do ora with others, it turns Em off like you wouldnt believe.

nothing to do with me being bummed or not, and everything to do with perception.

as has been said, its not always the male half of the couples decision"

i have a wee shock for you! Us single 'straight' guys luv a bit of anal now n again with a gal! Oh, and a touch of rimming too! Does that mean no oral as my tongue has been molar deep in the poo box?

And by the way! We do shower between bouts of sex! and brush our teeth!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

So what's the answer then?

Everyone shag everyone regardless of preference?

Sounds like PC craziness to me.

homophobia is massive here and in clubs ...we just laugh...and never be fooled into thinking their is a swinging community or shared set of values.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This open minded lark is crap too, we're here to act out fantasies and share sexual gratification with whom we want and how we want.

Sex is a large part in the mind, what turns us on or off certainly is.

If whatever puts you in the right zone then go for it, if whatever takes you from that zone then don't bother. Very simple.

I am far from intolerant of bi guys, but still pees me off too read some expect to play regardless of anothers preference, now there's intolerance for ya.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ask yourself this, what scenario would you prefer? two men who would happily play with each other as well as you or two men playing with you with the guy strategically manoeuvring away from your partner? You can only choose one.

Ive experienced the 2nd option...not pleasant and play stopped....but were discussing peoples inner feelings emotions and base values now....... many people would not accept any off us in thier homes....or allow us to care for thier kids....just because were swingers....thats intollerance.... I dont percieve a difference.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

So what's the answer then?

Everyone shag everyone regardless of preference?

Sounds like PC craziness to me.

That "veil of choice" hides racism too but do I want to meet these people? No. Do I want to change their minds in the hope they'll meet me? No

I'm struggling to see what you hope will be the outcome of this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

So what's the answer then?

Everyone shag everyone regardless of preference?

Sounds like PC craziness to me.

homophobia is massive here and in clubs ...we just laugh...and never be fooled into thinking their is a swinging community or shared set of values."
you're right there's no shared set of values, but really why would there be? We're all simply members of the same society, but looking to fulfil our own sexual pleasures.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"homophobia is massive here and in clubs ...we just laugh...and never be fooled into thinking their is a swinging community or shared set of values."

Thankyou .... this is somthing I can agree with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Rogue....we agree at last....the veil does hide racism in exactly the same way. Whats happening here is no-one wants to be percieved in a bad light...or take upon themselves any acceptance that thier core values are maybe a little off.....so they simply hide behind the choice argument.....or say the politically correct thing in the case off racism x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rogue....we agree at last....the veil does hide racism in exactly the same way. Whats happening here is no-one wants to be percieved in a bad light...or take upon themselves any acceptance that thier core values are maybe a little off.....so they simply hide behind the choice argument.....or say the politically correct thing in the case off racism x"

That's your opinion, and opinion only. Certainly doesn't describe me in the slightest.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm sorry but this is just a simple case of you accepting that the world isn't perfect. Even here!

We all experience intolerance in our own ways. We all share what we want to share and keep other things private. Some people have preferences and some have varying levels of disdain. What's your solution?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's your opinion, and opinion only. Certainly doesn't describe me in the slightest. "

Im not having a pop at you lol....or anyone else for that matter.... it is only opinion and time will tell as we develop as a society

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's your opinion, and opinion only. Certainly doesn't describe me in the slightest.

Im not having a pop at you lol....or anyone else for that matter.... it is only opinion and time will tell as we develop as a society"

Times are changing, that's for sure.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm sorry but this is just a simple case of you accepting that the world isn't perfect. Even here!

again rogue I agree with you....as for a solution.....ive none to offer....im not trying to talk anyone into or out of our bed..... but this type of lively debate is exactly what is needed to combat intolerance...weather its race or homophobia. your clearly a nice guy and intelligent...and that alone I find sexually attractive lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's your opinion, and opinion only. Certainly doesn't describe me in the slightest.

Im not having a pop at you lol....or anyone else for that matter.... it is only opinion and time will tell as we develop as a society

Times are changing, that's for sure.

deffo...lets hope they change for the better hey.....and thankyou for entertaining me here and not getting abusive and trying to shout me down xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think that in 100yrs there will be no bi/gay/heterosexuals! Just asexual peeps!

Peeps will just do what feels good to them!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think that in 100yrs there will be no bi/gay/heterosexuals! Just asexual peeps!

Peeps will just do what feels good to them! "

Wud be interesting times for sure lol sadly we wont be around x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm sorry but this is just a simple case of you accepting that the world isn't perfect. Even here!

Umm thanks!

Well that's new. People usually perve over my body, not my mind!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm sorry but this is just a simple case of you accepting that the world isn't perfect. Even here!

Umm thanks!

Well that's new. People usually perve over my body, not my mind!

intolerant and vain lol....yeah baby yeah (A Powers) g night x

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

What also surprises me is that half the time the fem is bi"

I'm black and don't meet black men, fat, and don't meet fat men...you're point is?!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm black and don't meet black men, fat, and don't meet fat men...you're point is?!!

I agree, great point!

I'm bi but I don't want to hump everybody I meet. Homophobia is totally different to preference. I won't meet anyone shorter than me or more than 6'2". I don't 'hate' short or tall people, I just don't want to meet them. Just my preference.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

You have a long list of preferences on your profile... y'know "likes and dislikes"... how would you feel if someone came on here spouting how annoyed they are after reading them?

You are missing a key trait that most genuine people look for ...it's called "respect"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm black and don't meet black men, fat, and don't meet fat men...you're point is?!!

I agree, great point!

and I disagree, I find the argument weak, your basing your position on a person being black...automatically means they cannot be racist against fellow blacks....using the same criteria....does this mean a jew cannot be anti semitic....off course it does not...therefore your position I find weak. Being bisexual, gay or lesbian also does not mean you cannot be a homophobe....how many people have commited suicide because they cannot live with it ??? thousands....I see (in my opinion) more hiding behind the preference argument....because of not wishing to examine inner core beliefs and value sets. Its an act of extreme bravery to look that deep as none off us can hide from ourselves.

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By *inky Bunny OP Man over a year ago

Cardiff

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

You have a long list of preferences on your profile... y'know "likes and dislikes"... how would you feel if someone came on here spouting how annoyed they are after reading them?

You are missing a key trait that most genuine people look for ...it's called "respect"

My OP asks why is that MF straight M FEAR bisexual lovers?! Address the question. Don't skewer the debate like so many by banging a drum for your own superior morals about "choice". Many MF profiles state explicitly that they won't meet bisexual MEN. But my list of LIKES are not stipulations.You're missing a key trait that most people possess : It's called 'paying attention'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

You have a long list of preferences on your profile... y'know "likes and dislikes"... how would you feel if someone came on here spouting how annoyed they are after reading them?

You are missing a key trait that most genuine people look for ...it's called "respect"

Time for you to pay attention: at least two people have asked you a question earlier on in the thread ... "why do you assume that it's down to fear?"

You've skipped that question... many have come back to you and tried to get something to 'sink in' but it's clearly proving difficult... I'll try one more time.

It is NOT FEAR ...it's a PREFERENCE. You are assuming it's a fear of a bi guy! I have NEVER read on a profile or on a forum these words... "BI GUYS.... I WILL NOT LET YOU PLAY WITH MY WIFE BECAUSE YOU ARE A BI MALE AND I'M SHIT SCARED OF YOU JUMPING ME TOO"

I've seen "sorry bi guys, you aren't for us, it's just a preference" numerous times.

It's about time you started to think this through and put your assumptions to bed.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???"

Where do you get that from?

People have preferences of who they play with, how can that be double standards?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"I'm sorry but this is just a simple case of you accepting that the world isn't perfect. Even here!

So what is the solution to stop what you say is "intolerance"....every person has to drop their preferences and play with bi men ?

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By *AM2214Man over a year ago

Manchester Area

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

At last someone who read the original post, thought about the questions it posed and answered in a sensible non-emotive manner.

Trying to get all meta-physical or indulging in Physcobabble is fine for www.getinsidemyhead.com

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

You have a long list of preferences on your profile... y'know "likes and dislikes"... how would you feel if someone came on here spouting how annoyed they are after reading them?

You are missing a key trait that most genuine people look for ...it's called "respect"

Time for you to pay attention: at least two people have asked you a question earlier on in the thread ... "why do you assume that it's down to fear?"

You've skipped that question... many have come back to you and tried to get something to 'sink in' but it's clearly proving difficult... I'll try one more time.

I've seen "sorry bi guys, you aren't for us, it's just a preference" numerous times.

It's about time you started to think this through and put your assumptions to bed."

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"so...the outcome here is that double standards and intolerance are acceptable under certain circumstances... ???

Where does intolerance come into it?

So what's the answer then?

Everyone shag everyone regardless of preference?

Sounds like PC craziness to me.

homophobia is massive here and in clubs ...we just laugh...and never be fooled into thinking their is a swinging community or shared set of values. you're right there's no shared set of values, but really why would there be? We're all simply members of the same society, but looking to fulfil our own sexual pleasures. "

Oh i dont think there should be, i was just pointing out to chelsea that its no good expecting people to be different just cos they are swingers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

why dont you just stick to bi couples they are plenty around looking for genuine guys, but dont think they are intreetsted usually in negative people who rant all the time

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By *inky Bunny OP Man over a year ago

Cardiff

For FROCK OFF For FROCK OFF For FROCK OFF :

Fear is only alive & active where knowledge has failed & ignorance is rife and clearly there are many phobic comments against bisexual men on this thread as there are on profiles and a TOTAL MINORITY not MANY have questioned the phobia premise. You default to the "MY PREFERENCE" base but you actually mean "MY STIPULATIONS" and the "choice" card is employed to hide your phobia. It's about time you opened your mind to wider horizons and learned to embrace the whole question.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

So whats the solution.....everyone who doesn't want to play with bi men, for whatever reason, now have to play with bi men so they don't look homophobic?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"why dont you just stick to bi couples they are plenty around looking for genuine guys, but dont think they are intreetsted usually in negative people who rant all the time"

i dont think ive been negative here or ranting....ive put forward opinion based on others comments and questions. That post has a defensive feel to it...ive not attacked you or others and its not neccesary to be defensive. to answer another point ive not got a solution.....if only lol. I myself have issues related to age....I generally am much more accepting off offers from older more mature men... I could claim this as preferencial....but the truth is I have issues with younger guys....even tho I accept the vast majority of younger men are good guys.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have to go to work.... I look forward to responding this afternoon to the constructive comments and questions... above all lets play nicely xxx

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By *ola cubesMan over a year ago

coatbridge

pmsl finding this thread hilarious

as said previously concentrate on those that like you forget those who dont

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"why dont you just stick to bi couples they are plenty around looking for genuine guys, but dont think they are intreetsted usually in negative people who rant all the time

Preferences and the reason for preferences are a different tale.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Beacuse it does not appeal......end of!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think this is the kind of comment that people like the OP are talking about... its not about people who don't have a preference... its about people who make that preference based on ignorance rather than informed choice...

I am a bisexual woman! and i will not sleep with anything and everything i can get my hands on and i absolutely abhor the fact that you think this!

I am infact very VERY picky about the men i am with, and fairly picky (but less so than men) about the women i am with.

Bi Men, Like Straight and Gay men.. have standards.. they dont just fuck anything with a heart beat and a hole! and neither do bi women!

If the thought of a guy that has been with another guy puts you off.. fine.. but if your not doing it because you think they have no standards and no self control your a moron!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

I am a bisexual woman! and i will not sleep with anything and everything i can get my hands on and i absolutely abhor the fact that you think this!

I am infact very VERY picky about the men i am with, and fairly picky (but less so than men) about the women i am with.

Bi Men, Like Straight and Gay men.. have standards.. they dont just fuck anything with a heart beat and a hole! and neither do bi women!

If the thought of a guy that has been with another guy puts you off.. fine.. but if your not doing it because you think they have no standards and no self control your a moron!

agreed...i noticed this post...and thought exactly the same. As well as being amused as kev sleeps with far fewer ppl than me is is very picky.

As someone up there said, preferences are fine, but some peoples preferences are based on bigotry and ignorance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"why dont you just stick to bi couples they are plenty around looking for genuine guys, but dont think they are intreetsted usually in negative people who rant all the time

im talking to the original poster not you lol , the one ranting about guys fearing other bi guys lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am a bisexual woman! and i will not sleep with anything and everything i can get my hands on and i absolutely abhor the fact that you think this!

I am infact very VERY picky about the men i am with, and fairly picky (but less so than men) about the women i am with.

Bi Men, Like Straight and Gay men.. have standards.. they dont just fuck anything with a heart beat and a hole! and neither do bi women!

If the thought of a guy that has been with another guy puts you off.. fine.. but if your not doing it because you think they have no standards and no self control your a moron!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For FROCK OFF For FROCK OFF For FROCK OFF :

so you saying they should sleep with you if they dont want to so they prove they not afraid of bi guys, lol your funny

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"why dont you just stick to bi couples they are plenty around looking for genuine guys, but dont think they are intreetsted usually in negative people who rant all the time"

I don't think the OP - or anyone providing a sensible arguement is ranting - or stating that they expect anyone with a particular preference to change their minds just for them!

As for concentrating on couples interested in your personal tastes - thats pretty much common sense and anyone who does otherwise shouldn't expect a particularly positive response from those they're contacting.

Any negaticity i've seen so far has been about double standards, weak arguements and justification of preferences based on fear, mis-information and the odd bit of latent bigotry here and there.

This is a forum - so the subjects up for debate - and so long as it avoids becoming abusive and personal what's wrong with people expressing opinions?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just seems like he's assuming coz a couple used it as a reason not to meet him that everyones like that or they actually fear meeting a bi guy when its probs just down to the fact they dont want to meet one rather than having any fear at all

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By *heCrowAndButterflyCouple over a year ago

Rushden

Am posting from experience here...most people are reasonable, some aren't, it's personal choice who you play with some chose not bi guys others do, the only thing we have found uncomfortable was when someone was giving it the old 'I have no issue with bi guys, I just don't want them anywhere near me cause the will be looking at me and wanting me' there does seem to be a perception that bi women will go with any woman and bi guys will go with any guy. Infact they are probably pickier about who they will play with of the same sex than of the opposite sex, other than that look for people who are open to bi guys or have no issue, it's less hassle that way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"just seems like he's assuming coz a couple used it as a reason not to meet him that everyones like that or they actually fear meeting a bi guy when its probs just down to the fact they dont want to meet one rather than having any fear at all"

Not knowing the couple in question (for obvious reasons as can't and shouldn't be named) and not wanting to speak on behalf of the OP - I'm guessing it's more of an observation than an assumption that everyone is the same.

I've experienced the same thing - the fem of a couple has messaged me with interest, then the male spots the 'curious' status and drops a line to say sorry, but not interested. Likewise come across endless profiles with bi fems that state in huge shouty capitals - NO BI MEN! From a personal 'observation' rather than an assumption - and as someone that respects peoples preferences - I find this attitude strange!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

I think it means people have the right to choose who they meet and not by what ever criteria they choose and not have people force themselves upon people who aren't interested.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For FROCK OFF For FROCK OFF For FROCK OFF :

Why are you only picking me out. For the sake of dispelling your illusion that I fear bi guys I'm going to put hand on heart and say I am a woman who doesn't give a flying hoot if you are a man that plays with both sexes. I'm bi, and if a couple opted of meeting us because of my sexuality, I'd not give it another thought... not rant and rave

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a case of to each their own . It's about personal preferences at end of the day . I understand the reasons your fed up. I'm a bi fem but that does not mean I don't play straight. I'm not one to pounce on any female. I think choosing playmates after discussing likes dislikes is one way these days . My suggestion is move on to people who would play with you not concentrate. On those who never will. Happy playing .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

I tend to only meet straight guys one on one.. sounds odd.. but I find that its what I prefer. Even more so if its a 3sum, however I dont exclude totally, just make it clear that I have no interest in seeing the guys touching.

I am more Bothered than Master, so dont always assume its the male.. I have found that I have normally ruled the bi guys out before I knew they were bi... as I find most that contact me not my type.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Clearly this is a particulary sensitive issue, Perhaps because its making people look inwards upon themselves, none off us are perfect or above another on this site or in life in general....My participation here has been to get at the reasons some choose (as is thier right) to exclude some minorities. These exclustions if we probe deep enough can often be traced to an inner deep set intolerance or double standard. No one chooses to want to feel bad so we all often take a defensive stance (preference argument) some preferences...whilst we all entitled to them are based on politically incorrect deep emotions and values.

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By *unky monkeyMan over a year ago

in the night garden

To the OP when you say 'fears bisexual men' are you saying like a phobia? Or do you mean 'doesn't like to cross swords'?

I have an irrational fear of cockroaches. I don't trust the little dirty fuckers. I have read they will inherit the earth one day if nuclear holocaust happens. But I have no qualms in having sex in their presence if I was getting my end away. In fact If I didn't know the cockroach was there it might be quit 'tickley' running around on my bottom while I was on the vinegar strokes. This could bring an added element of eroticism to love play that I had previously not encountered...

...sorry I've lost my train of thought.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"MY fella is bi (chris) i myself am straight (chelsea), we recently had a meet cancelled as the other side suddenly noticed its him thats bi and not her....apparently our male bi fem str8 combo is unusual.... we were both quite offended and and insulted. The comment about higher STI rate I find interesting....perhaps shield some homophobia....whay does sexuality matter if you practice safe sex ??? You as swingers....like ourselves are in the higher risk group for STI infections...same as bi men. Your tarred with same brush

Homophobia? I was marching for gay rights with the Gay Liberation Front when you were still at school and I probably have more gay friends than most heterosexual males.

According to the WHO bisexual men are more likely to have sexually transmitted diseases than any other group. If you think you know better than they do, fine, but we don't think we know better than they do, and that's why we won't play with bi-sexual men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Experience shows that often it is just Macho talk, when it get down to it, they will suck cock.

Sucking cock is fine, its blokie anal i will no do!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just don't understand where they get the idea that Bisexual men will instantly pounce on people... that's the last thing usually they'll do...

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Homophobia? I was marching for gay rights with the Gay Liberation Front when you were still at school and I probably have more gay friends than most heterosexual males.

So you are older than me...therefore my opinion is off lesser value... Having friends within a minority is no defence either.... thats simply social friendships....not a sexual activity. Your world health point has value tho....what you say is correct...however the gaps between these groups are small and as swingers WE ALL are in a high risk group. And you avoided my point over safe sex practices..... IF you practice safe sex it gives a high degree off protection. It is possible to be tolerant in one area...bi women and be intolerant in another area. please dont think this is a persnal attack as its not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My father once said....

There's no such thing as bisexuality, just greed. Haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My father once said....

There's no such thing as bisexuality, just greed. Haha

lol lol.... you may well be correct xxx.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi guy=greedy lol

Just wish everyone would be honest, the "straight" men that say they are bi just to meet more couples etc.

As a couple, the choice is ours, as we have so many men to choose from, the tip is read the profiles, inwardly digest what you have read and go from there. If they are not interested, move on, don't waste your and there time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have to fend off the straight guys ....who pretend they are bi.

We have that problem too!

We also have problems with straight couples as they think that a bi male means that the male is instantly going to jump on the others cock

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By *orth West CoupleCouple over a year ago

liverpool

"I just don't understand where they get the idea that Bisexual men will instantly pounce on people... that's the last thing usually they'll do...

Wolf

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But most couples with straight males would prefer not to take that chance, the answer to this thread is quite simple, if you are a Bi-Male and are upset when Straight couples ignore you then just message couples that have requested Bi-Males or the male say's he's Bi in the profile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have to fend off the straight guys ....who pretend they are bi.

We have that problem too!

We also have problems with straight couples as they think that a bi male means that the male is instantly going to jump on the others cock"

agreed ... theres also a hell off a lot of men who put they are straight on thier profiles to avoid homophobia....then message us as they are secretly bi lol

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM) over a year ago

birmingham

What a contradictory post!

1st you mention "your preference" then assume every bi / gay man will shag anything!

FYI, we also have a preference, Oh, and just because one is bi / gay, doesn't mean there into anal.

If you want a definition of “shag anything” attend a straight club on a Friday / Saturday night.

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By *idlifecrisis40Man over a year ago

Manchester (North)

"theres also a hell off a lot of men who put they are straight on thier profiles to avoid homophobia....then message us as they are secretly bi lol"

I'm openly bi and, having spoken with people of various sexualities on here it has been really eye opening how many otherwise straight guys will play or have played with other guys and then of course there is how many message/wink/view me on a daily basis.

Those people who only play with "straight" males and not bi males... what's happening is that you're having sex with (some) people who lie and avoiding the honest open people. If you're happy with that then go you, but you surely must realise it in the back of your mind somewhere.

Personally, if someone doesn't want to play with me then I don't want to play with them, that's my preference and I don't have to explain it to anyone

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By *orth West CoupleCouple over a year ago

liverpool

What a contradictory post!

1st you mention "your preference" then assume every bi / gay man will shag anything!

FYI, we also have a preference, Oh, and just because one is bi / gay, doesn't mean there into anal.

If you want a definition of “shag anything” attend a straight club on a Friday / Saturday night.

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Or even a Gay sauna anytime.....

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"We have to fend off the straight guys ....who pretend they are bi.

We have that problem too!

We also have problems with straight couples as they think that a bi male means that the male is instantly going to jump on the others cock"

I am assuming you mean SOME straight couples think like that, I am also assuming you had that from SOME straight couples mouths.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I personally think a lot of the problem is....that some people make up reasons of why people won't play with them and it is easier to think that it is the other persons fault.

When we first started playing we wanted straight men for straight MFM. We got what we thought we wanted until a man turned up and I thought hmmm he is bi at least. Now before you all shout at me for stereotyping, all I can say is what I saw....the man gave an impression of swinging both ways.

We liked the fella, so we decided to play...the man was very attentive to me and we had a great MFM and then a few more repeats after it. We were comfortable with the man.

We then met a man ( neither are on this site ) who said he was straight, acted straight, but had too many lingering glances at the OH when he was undressed. Now ok he could have just been admiring his cock, as I do

but it made both of us uncomfortable so we ended the meet.

The point is... let's face it, you don't really know if someone is telling the truth or not of wether they are bi or not....but if someone makes us feel uncomfortable when they know the bounderies before we meet, then the meet would end. I can also understand why people wouldn't take the chance on meeting a bi person, as it can be awkward to stop all play.

If our preference of play means we have deep seated homophobic thoughts then so be it....but we see it as playing with people that suit us.

I do think as this question/ thread type comes around often that it looks like SOME bi men have a chip on their shoulder and while feeling insulted with being rejected or hearing someone say they won't meet bi's they in turn insult the rest of us for having that preference....whatever the reason for the preference.

I also think, why let it bother anyone? if someone turned me off so much by something they have written on their profile or in a mail, then we wouldn be passing them by and looking for someone who doesn't turn us off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Rugby

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By *unky monkeyMan over a year ago

in the night garden

"Rugby

Yup I'll play! Where and when?

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Rugby

Yup I'll play! Where and when?"

Have you got odd shaped balls then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rugby

Again to Ruggers

We, as a couple have no problem with bi men, so long as they understand that hubby doesn't appreciate admiring glances towards his 'jewels' lol. If a bi guy offers a genuine straight play and I fancy him, I fail to see a problem.

I think the OP has 'issues' regarding rejection. ....it's not a case of 'I'm not attracting this couple sexually' ....it must be 'I'm freaking straight guys out and they won't let me f*ck their wives incase they jump me'....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

Weather or not it makes you homophobic is dictated by the reasoning behind the decision. You have to look inside and be honest to yourself and examine it quietly and reflect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

Weather or not it makes you homophobic is dictated by the reasoning behind the decision. You have to look inside and be honest to yourself and examine it quietly and reflect. "

my reasoning is that i like pussy and not cock! Doesn't make me AFRAID of gays/bi guys! (which is what being homophobic means, the clue is in the name).

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

Bi-sexual indicates enjoys good sex with EITHER gender when he is attracted to the person.

It does NOT indicate that he is hopelessly addicted to cock, to any old cock or that he can't otherwise act in a straight manner!!!!

Your thoughts ladies & gentlemen please!

Did not realise this was a major burning issue.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

clearly its a big issue...this thread immortal lol x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow. Is this still going on?!

I think everything has been said that needs to be said and now we're going round in circles. It's clear that when we are in a intimate situation, it is important to be happy and comfortable so you can truly enjoy yourself. There is nothing to be gained in worrying about people's reasons for the choices they make as they won't be changing them any time soon.

I've said it earlier and I'm saying it again: Is there really an outcome to this thread?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

Weather or not it makes you homophobic is dictated by the reasoning behind the decision. You have to look inside and be honest to yourself and examine it quietly and reflect. "

Wooooaahhh!! Wait a minute!

That is two completely different things babe. Don't get ahead of yourself. Lol!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

Weather or not it makes you homophobic is dictated by the reasoning behind the decision. You have to look inside and be honest to yourself and examine it quietly and reflect.

Wooooaahhh!! Wait a minute!

That is two completely different things babe. Don't get ahead of yourself. Lol!

I dissagree....itd the motive that defines here.... same as racism we talked abt before hun.... and only an individual knows thier motive...the self same decision for 1 can be prefertial whilst for another its homophobia....dependent upon....motive x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clearly this is a particulary sensitive issue, Perhaps because its making people look inwards upon themselves, none off us are perfect or above another on this site or in life in general....My participation here has been to get at the reasons some choose (as is thier right) to exclude some minorities. These exclustions if we probe deep enough can often be traced to an inner deep set intolerance or double standard. No one chooses to want to feel bad so we all often take a defensive stance (preference argument) some preferences...whilst we all entitled to them are based on politically incorrect deep emotions and values. "

Personally we couldn't give a toss for P.C values and see P.C as one reason why society is in the state it is.

Neither are we interested in looking inward at the deeper reasons that may be the cause of something being a turn off to us, the reasons are probably too numerous to mention.

We are in no way homophobic, having had many great nights at gay clubs and also have several gay/bi (male) friends, none of who we would want to meet sexually.

These friends fully understand the way we feel, respect it and have no problem with our preferences what so ever, so why do some people on here have such an issue with it?

Last, but not least, to try to put it in context, how many bi male couples on here would want to meet a couple that were heavily into Scat?

Well the distaste that some feel towards M/M sex play can be the same as that.

Oh....and its no more the fear that we're going to be jumped on by a bi guy than that we're going to be shat on by a Scat protagonist, we just find M/M equally distasteful!

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By *amschwingerzCouple over a year ago

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Wow! Interesting opinion from someone whose listed as Bi Curious themselves!

Liking purple doesn't mean you have to like blue and red."

And you dont get anything for three in a bed...oh hang on, sorry, wrong show!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So, what your saying is im homophobic because i like pussy rather than cock? Does that mean all heterosexuals are homophobic then?

The word HOMOPHOBIA means FEAR of homosexuals! Im sorry, but being straight doesn't mean im afraid of gays/bi guys!! Or do i have to conform to a certain way of thinking now??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I see what you're getting at and I understand your reasoning but remember this: when we talk about homophobia and racism, it's in a public setting. We are now talking about intimate situations of a sexual nature and that's a massive difference. The fact is that it takes some men and women a lot to feel truly comfortable before they're touch in any intimate way or be around someone in such a scenario.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally we couldn't give a toss for P.C values and see P.C as one reason why society is in the state it is.

Neither are we interested in looking inward at the deeper reasons that may be the cause of something being a turn off to us, the reasons are probably too numerous to mention.

We are in no way homophobic, having had many great nights at gay clubs and also have several gay/bi (male) friends, none of who we would want to meet sexually.

These friends fully understand the way we feel, respect it and have no problem with our preferences what so ever, so why do some people on here have such an issue with it?

Last, but not least, to try to put it in context, how many bi male couples on here would want to meet a couple that were heavily into Scat?

Well the distaste that some feel towards M/M sex play can be the same as that.

Oh....and its no more the fear that we're going to be jumped on by a bi guy than that we're going to be shat on by a Scat protagonist, we just find M/M equally distasteful!

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

Weather or not it makes you homophobic is dictated by the reasoning behind the decision. You have to look inside and be honest to yourself and examine it quietly and reflect. "

I think your reasoning is flawed big time.

I will ask again....do people have to play with anyone that asks just so they don't look homophobic?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The word is 'choice'!!!!

People have the RIGHT to choose who to have fun with, and, who not to have fun with!!

If a gal or guy chooses not to include someone (be it bi/gay/hetero or any race or creed) in their fun, then what is the problem??

I wouldn't go with a gay/bi guy, doesn't make me homophobic, just makes me hetero!!

Weather or not it makes you homophobic is dictated by the reasoning behind the decision. You have to look inside and be honest to yourself and examine it quietly and reflect.

I think your reasoning is flawed big time.

I will ask again....do people have to play with anyone that asks just so they don't look homophobic?

Flawed in what way ??? expand on that pls x I dont see how motive can be irrelevant....its seen by police and the courts as an essential element in detecting and convicting people off crimes. ALSO for the umpteenth time here on this thread I firmly suppost anyone in not being forced into a sexual act they are uncomfortable with I dont see any room for misunderstanding in that. xxx

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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Any comment you have made about people are homophobic if they won't sleep with bi's and your comments on this post about motive.

You are making sexual preference into something sinister when for MOST people it isn't sinister.

If you support that people shouldn't be forced into sex with someone they don't want to.....then you have to support whatever reason they have for not wanting to do so.

To keep implying that straight people are homophobic because of it and are supressing the reasons why is really insulting.

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By *amschwingerzCouple over a year ago

West

I love the way a dislike of another persons preferences now has to have a 'tag word'...

HOMOPHOBIC, whats is exactly wrong with a person just not liking gays..OR Bi?

Its THEIR choice!!...is everyone meant to go around liking everyone else?...as long as people dont go over the top and victimise others for their beliefs etc than why cant they just 'dislike' them?...

The same goes for racism..I was once asked if I considered myself a nazi fascist and a racist all because I said immigration was starting to get ridiculous.

Jesus christ is no one entitled to an opinion anymore with being branded some type of 'ist' or an 'ic'??????

I dont want to live in a street full of Jehovahs, I dont like them, I dont like their ideals...same goes for born agains..and the 'god squad'...my choice, does that make me Jehovahphobic,;-) or religionophobic????

It often seems to me that the real 'bigots' are the ones pointing the finger at others and branding them, just because they dont agree to their own ideals.

All part of this apologetic society we live in...'im not homophobic, but', 'Ive got nothing against them, but','Im not racist, but'...

(not aimed at anyone on this thread by the way, just an opinion/observation)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally we couldn't give a toss for P.C values and see P.C as one reason why society is in the state it is.

Neither are we interested in looking inward at the deeper reasons that may be the cause of something being a turn off to us, the reasons are probably too numerous to mention.

We are in no way homophobic, having had many great nights at gay clubs and also have several gay/bi (male) friends, none of who we would want to meet sexually.

These friends fully understand the way we feel, respect it and have no problem with our preferences what so ever, so why do some people on here have such an issue with it?

Last, but not least, to try to put it in context, how many bi male couples on here would want to meet a couple that were heavily into Scat?

Well the distaste that some feel towards M/M sex play can be the same as that.

Oh....and its no more the fear that we're going to be jumped on by a bi guy than that we're going to be shat on by a Scat protagonist, we just find M/M equally distasteful!

So, like i said earlier,, you would find it a turn off, the thought of the man you are with being with another man... thats fine.. its those people that wont meet because they are *afraid* that the bi male is going to be jumping all over the straight male and making unwanted sexual advances to him.... big difference...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As i stated earlier, i like pussy, not cock! If a gay/bi guy propositioned me, i would refuse as i am STRAIGHT! MY CHOICE! In what parallel universe does that make me homophobic??

In your world i should be tarred n feathered for refusing to have sex with someone i had no attraction to!!

You mention MOTIVE and CRIME!! So its a crime to be straight unless you can prove you dont have an ulterior motive now is it?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"So, like i said earlier,, you would find it a turn off, the thought of the man you are with being with another man... thats fine.. its those people that wont meet because they are *afraid* that the bi male is going to be jumping all over the straight male and making unwanted sexual advances to him.... big difference... "

I would like to know how many people actually think that? Have people encountered lots of people saying " no I won't meet you as I fear you might jump at my cock "?

Now we have never had someone jump at the OH's cock, but we have been made to feel uncomfortable and had to end a meet ( see above post )and that was a very awkward thing to do.

Now although it hasn't put us off meeting men who MAY be bi ( let's face it, there are a lot of men who pretend to be straight but aren't ) it might put some people off from taking the chance that they could end up feeling uncomfortable, so they don't entertain bi's at all.

Whats wrong with that? Isn't all this playing supposed to suit you and what you are comfortable with?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would like to know how many people actually think that? Have people encountered lots of people saying " no I won't meet you as I fear you might jump at my cock "?

Now we have never had someone jump at the OH's cock, but we have been made to feel uncomfortable and had to end a meet ( see above post )and that was a very awkward thing to do.

Whats wrong with that? Isn't all this playing supposed to suit you and what you are comfortable with?"

im not saying everyone has to meet bi guys or bi girls... but we have had it in the reverse where they told us they wouldn't meet us because i was bi...i said that's fine, we don't have to have bi play, we are a full swap couple and being bi means i am interested in men as well as women..

and they said no because "you won't be able to control yourself"..... their exact words... im like WTF just because i am bi doesn't mean A; all women are attractive to me and B; even if they are i can't control myself!

and im sorry if i find it offensive that people think because i'm bi i cannot control myself... if someone had said..

it wouldn't be ok to say that all muslim men are suicide bombers ( because its not true!) but it seems acceptable to say that all bi men are cock hungry uncontrollable whores and all bi women will force themselves on every pussy they see....

Yes of course there are people that break the mould... but those people are a minority!

we have had meets with "straight couples" where the guy had propositioned my partner for head.... and had meets with bi couples who were honest about it where we outlined before what was on the table and they were happy with that! if they aren't happy with it we wont meet..

I think most of the problems come when guys cannot be honest with themselves.. let alone you. most of the bad experiences cited here of bi guys seem to be with "straight" guys.. no guys who are openly bi...

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I would like to know how many people actually think that? Have people encountered lots of people saying " no I won't meet you as I fear you might jump at my cock "?

Now we have never had someone jump at the OH's cock, but we have been made to feel uncomfortable and had to end a meet ( see above post )and that was a very awkward thing to do.

Whats wrong with that? Isn't all this playing supposed to suit you and what you are comfortable with?

and im sorry if i find it offensive that people think because i'm bi i cannot control myself... if someone had said..

Yes of course there are people that break the mould... but those people are a minority!

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I would say it is probably the other way round and the majority wouldn't find it acceptable.

I am guessing because you pushed the point when someone said no thanks to you that is when you then got an answer you didn't want to hear.

Ok, it wasn't very tactful or true ( in most cases ) but you did try and talk them round into meeting you as a bi couple, when they had already said no.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would say it is probably the other way round and the majority wouldn't find it acceptable.

I am guessing because you pushed the point when someone said no thanks to you that is when you then got an answer you didn't want to hear.

Ok, it wasn't very tactful or true ( in most cases ) but you did try and talk them round into meeting you as a bi couple, when they had already said no."

No I didn't try to "talk them round" i just told them that the reason they didn't want to meet us was a non issue,,, as bi play wasn't a necessity... yet their fear of me being a pussy hungry uncontrolable monster stopped the meet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im quite new to this site, so maybe my opinion/mind set isn't what it should be on here, but, i have been contacted by gay/bi guys and tv/ts looking for fun with me and they have all (6 of them so far) been turned down! 2 of them wouldn't take no for an answer and kept telling me i would enjoy it!! They got blocked!!

To some peoples way of thinking, i should have just agreed and took it like a man!! Lol. Does that mean i'm homophobic??? NO IT DOESN'T!! And i'm really disapointed that the pc brigade seems to think i am!!

And p.s. Even if it means i dont get any meets at all, I WILL KEEP REFUSING SAME SEX FUN AS IT DOES NOT TURN ME ON!! Im sorry if this offends anyone but its my choice and i will not be dicktated to!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im quite new to this site, so maybe my opinion/mind set isn't what it should be on here, but, i have been contacted by gay/bi guys and tv/ts looking for fun with me and they have all (6 of them so far) been turned down! 2 of them wouldn't take no for an answer and kept telling me i would enjoy it!! They got blocked!!

And p.s. Even if it means i dont get any meets at all, I WILL KEEP REFUSING SAME SEX FUN AS IT DOES NOT TURN ME ON!! Im sorry if this offends anyone but its my choice and i will not be dicktated to!!

I don't think anyone's said anyone HAS to meet anyone!

Yes there are always going to be people contacting you that you don't want to meet - that's just life! We all get this - and it's your right to refuse whoever you see fit, for whatever reason you want.

Whilst this thread has thrown up some good arguements re personal viewpoint, perceptions, opinions and tastes - seems it's veered away a fair distance from the OP's initial train of thought - and has started to get a bit pointless!

Off to find something a little more lighthearted!

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By *orth West CoupleCouple over a year ago

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I would like to know how many people actually think that? Have people encountered lots of people saying " no I won't meet you as I fear you might jump at my cock "?

Now we have never had someone jump at the OH's cock, but we have been made to feel uncomfortable and had to end a meet ( see above post )and that was a very awkward thing to do.

Whats wrong with that? Isn't all this playing supposed to suit you and what you are comfortable with?

and im sorry if i find it offensive that people think because i'm bi i cannot control myself... if someone had said..

Yes of course there are people that break the mould... but those people are a minority!

"it wouldn't be ok to say that all muslim men are suicide bombers ( because its not true!)".....But I still would feel uneasy with one sitting next to me on a tube wearing a backpack

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