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By *aling69 OP   Man  over a year ago

London

To all the women out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this, is this a fair statement?

"For a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing. A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I ask as I'm sure like most men on this site, I find it really difficult to find a couple or a woman who would happily give a good blow job to a guy (and vice versa if they want), finding soft swing partners seems just as hard as finding full swing partners when if the statement above is a fair comment to the majority, then it should be a bit easier to find women and couples who like to indulge in oral/soft swing.

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley

If it was someone I knew then yeah, I'd be fine just sucking their dick but I wouldn't just meet a guy to suck his cock. I get turned on doing it and I'd be pissed off if I didn't get fucked after

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan  over a year ago

.

I think that type of scenario would happen more in clubs then people meeting for one offs

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By *ananas57Couple  over a year ago

lake ariel

Ask Bill Clinton

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I couldn't be bothered to read the whole post (sorry) so i’m just going to tell you the same thing I told my ex...a BJ is not cheating babe!

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

It's worse than talking about it.

Whoops.....wrong type of aural.

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By *aling69 OP   Man  over a year ago

London


"If it was someone I knew then yeah, I'd be fine just sucking their dick but I wouldn't just meet a guy to suck his cock. I get turned on doing it and I'd be pissed off if I didn't get fucked after "

Fair comment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Servicing??????

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By *irty PrettyWoman  over a year ago

Cardiff

Just out of interest, where does that quote come from?

As for whether women (not girls) will or won’t do it or like or dislike it, every woman will probably have a different view. There’s absolutely no way in hell I’d meet a guy just to suck him off and get nothing in return. However, I will say that I find giving oral less intimate in most cases than sex (depends who it’s with) because I don’t have to look at their faces.

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan  over a year ago

Sussex


"Ask Bill Clinton "

... or Hilary..... or Monika Lewinski

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, it's called outercourse

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By *aling69 OP   Man  over a year ago

London


"Servicing?????? "

Yea, I also thought that was a strange word to portray giving a blow job.

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By *assing Fancies xCouple  over a year ago

Sherwood Forest

I'd say it's a sexual act not actually sex though

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By *thena123Woman  over a year ago

Swansea

I enjoy giving Blow Jobs, I can get turned on just as much as the man does...Its not always about the sex! Touching has a lot to do with it for me,as does kissing,and watching the person your giving pleasure to....im sure as hell I could cum myself while giving a blow job with the right tweak of the nipples.... Sex is always a bonus.xxx

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By *ed LipstickWoman  over a year ago

Fucksville


"If it was someone I knew then yeah, I'd be fine just sucking their dick but I wouldn't just meet a guy to suck his cock. I get turned on doing it and I'd be pissed off if I didn't get fucked after "

This! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I always thought a Bj wasn’t cheating !!!

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By *iss ScherzzoWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Servicing?????? "

Yep we are all just free hookers ha

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By *eonnieCouple  over a year ago

Worsley

Personally I find giving a blowjob slightly more intimate than having sex

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Servicing??????

Yep we are all just free hookers ha "

The bit I thought was weird was:


" "And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it." "

I prefer a partner to have sex with me because they actively love the shared experience, not because they surrender or show some sort of begrudging 'willingness'

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By *iss ScherzzoWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Servicing??????

Yep we are all just free hookers ha

The bit I thought was weird was:

"And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I prefer a partner to have sex with me because they actively love the shared experience, not because they surrender or show some sort of begrudging 'willingness'"

Yes! It’s a very odd/old fashioned post. We women are clearly just having sex or sucking cock to please a man

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By *itty n TomCouple  over a year ago

hastings


"Personally I find giving a blowjob slightly more intimate than having sex"

I was thinking this x

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By *rctopusMan  over a year ago

Borehamwood

Religious people who insist on being virgins until they marry, are blowjob crazy!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm certainly not one of those women you mention, OP

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By *exy4youxxWoman  over a year ago

Pontefract


"To all the women out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this, is this a fair statement?

"For a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing. A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I ask as I'm sure like most men on this site, I find it really difficult to find a couple or a woman who would happily give a good blow job to a guy (and vice versa if they want), finding soft swing partners seems just as hard as finding full swing partners when if the statement above is a fair comment to the majority, then it should be a bit easier to find women and couples who like to indulge in oral/soft swing. "

Sorry if I'm confusing this lol are you asking about a woman just giving a bloke a bj and that's it end of ?

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By *inky SpiceWoman  over a year ago

Glasgow

The only way I'd be interested in meeting just to give a BJ is if I was with my BF so at least he could satisfy me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

This is very interesting, why is sex an open surrender? I might have misunderstood

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By *uriousscouserWoman  over a year ago

Wirral

The day that giving a blowjob makes me orgasm is the day I'd be happy to give a blowjob without getting laid.

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By *inky_CarpenterMan  over a year ago

Portsmouth


"Ask Bill Clinton "

Asking him questions is fine.... Just don't accept a cigar I'f he offers you one ??

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"To all the women out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this, is this a fair statement?

"For a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing. A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I ask as I'm sure like most men on this site, I find it really difficult to find a couple or a woman who would happily give a good blow job to a guy (and vice versa if they want), finding soft swing partners seems just as hard as finding full swing partners when if the statement above is a fair comment to the majority, then it should be a bit easier to find women and couples who like to indulge in oral/soft swing.

Sorry if I'm confusing this lol are you asking about a woman just giving a bloke a bj and that's it end of ? "

Yes, he is.

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By *exy4youxxWoman  over a year ago

Pontefract


"To all the women out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this, is this a fair statement?

"For a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing. A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I ask as I'm sure like most men on this site, I find it really difficult to find a couple or a woman who would happily give a good blow job to a guy (and vice versa if they want), finding soft swing partners seems just as hard as finding full swing partners when if the statement above is a fair comment to the majority, then it should be a bit easier to find women and couples who like to indulge in oral/soft swing.

Sorry if I'm confusing this lol are you asking about a woman just giving a bloke a bj and that's it end of ?

Yes, he is."

Pfft be an instant block from me like his needs only I don't think so

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By *exy4youxxWoman  over a year ago

Pontefract

Oh ... this is why sm wonder why they get no attention...

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By *penbicoupleCouple  over a year ago

Northampton

Of course it's sex.

It's not intercourse, or penetration, obviously.

The Clinton comment is obviously childish and irrelevant. He said, "I did not have sexual relations..." and I doubt anyone would question that his taking advantage of Monica for oral sex constituted "sexual relations."

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By *irty PrettyWoman  over a year ago

Cardiff

Because there was something about the tone of the quote that threw up some red flags, and because OP hasn’t responded to my question about where it came from, I googled it. Surprise surprise, it’s from a pick-up artist website. The full quote:

“ To many women, sex is a big deal. If you really think about it, it’s a massive act of surrender and vulnerability to let herself be penetrated by another human being.

Here’s the secret every man who wants to know how to get a blow job with any amount of consistency needs to know, though: for a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing.

A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it.

Some girls will even give a blow job without thinking twice about it. They’ll engage in the activity as if it were on the same level as making out. So if you want to put yourself in the position where you get a blow job more often than you currently do, then it’s important to stop building it up in your head.

I’ve also known some individuals in the seduction industry to assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be. So remember: it’s just a blow job. It’s not sex. It doesn’t make her a whore. It’s just fun and enjoyable.”

OP, PUAs are the worst, stop taking their advice. Women are not a commodity, trying to pressure a woman into giving a BJ because “it’s not sex” isn’t a good thing to do, and believe me when I say a woman who feels pressured into it is not going to find it “fun and enjoyable”. Women are all individuals, but PUA advice ignores that fact and provides a one size fits all approach. As you can see from the replies here we all have different views on this subject, so assuming every woman you meet will “willingly” “service” you if you say it’s not sex isn’t going to work.

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By *ooskiMan  over a year ago

south coast

Simples......No

A BJ is just a starter before proper sex......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My wife never actually got penetrated from the men we would meet

Yes she would suck them, but the ultimate of being fucked was done by me.

They would go down on her, play with her clit, tit and fuck wank

She would swallow their cum but I would be the one doing the fucking

So yes blow jobs are not sex

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By *penbicoupleCouple  over a year ago

Northampton


"OP, PUAs are the worst, stop taking their advice. Women are not a commodity, trying to pressure a woman into giving a BJ because “it’s not sex” isn’t a good thing to do, and believe me when I say a woman who feels pressured into it is not going to find it “fun and enjoyable”. Women are all individuals, but PUA advice ignores that fact and provides a one size fits all approach. As you can see from the replies here we all have different views on this subject, so assuming every woman you meet will “willingly” “service” you if you say it’s not sex isn’t going to work."

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London


"

"[to] assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be". "

Gulp. The whole thing is pretty horrid, but that line in particular! And, no, not trying to virtue signal - just don't find having to 'persuade' anyone particularly sexy!

I think the OP's latest status let's on where this post was going...!

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By *irty PrettyWoman  over a year ago

Cardiff


"

"[to] assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be".

Gulp. The whole thing is pretty horrid, but that line in particular! And, no, not trying to virtue signal - just don't find having to 'persuade' anyone particularly sexy!

I think the OP's latest status let's on where this post was going...! "

I know, it’s grim isn’t it - I find it a bit scary that there are so many men out there who think like that or who believe that this kind of technique is ok. I’ve never understood it myself, surely having to “persuade” someone is less fun!

And I think you might be right there lol

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By *winkleFairyCouple  over a year ago

UK


"To all the women out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this, is this a fair statement?

"For a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing. A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I ask as I'm sure like most men on this site, I find it really difficult to find a couple or a woman who would happily give a good blow job to a guy (and vice versa if they want), finding soft swing partners seems just as hard as finding full swing partners when if the statement above is a fair comment to the majority, then it should be a bit easier to find women and couples who like to indulge in oral/soft swing. "

Have you found lots who will give a bad blow job?

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By *ots2loveCouple  over a year ago

hartlepool


"I enjoy giving Blow Jobs, I can get turned on just as much as the man does...Its not always about the sex! Touching has a lot to do with it for me,as does kissing,and watching the person your giving pleasure to....im sure as hell I could cum myself while giving a blow job with the right tweak of the nipples.... Sex is always a bonus.xxx"
HERE! HERE!

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

Depends if we are talking about the actual act or if you have been caught cheating and used the phrase "but it was only a BJ, honest".

If its the latter then sadly you will still face the same consequences.

So in that sense then yes!

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By *winkleFairyCouple  over a year ago

UK


"

"[to] assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be".

Gulp. The whole thing is pretty horrid, but that line in particular! And, no, not trying to virtue signal - just don't find having to 'persuade' anyone particularly sexy!

I think the OP's latest status let's on where this post was going...!

I know, it’s grim isn’t it - I find it a bit scary that there are so many men out there who think like that or who believe that this kind of technique is ok. I’ve never understood it myself, surely having to “persuade” someone is less fun!

And I think you might be right there lol"

There was the guy who got sentenced for it recently wasn’t there. He had a YouTube channel showing him approaching women.

It’s the whole don’t take no for an answer that really bothers me. “If she puts up any resistance”. Makes my skin crawl

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’ve never met a woman just for some head - even if I did, I’d probably leave disappointed.

As sex for me, is all about the pleasure of a lady... I also think human nature will have us chasing for more!

Plus, is there anyone out there that’s ‘amazin’ to make me cum from head, I doubt it. So I just stick to what is enjoyable for me! As I’d rather please than be disappointed.

BUT - everyone is different!

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By *ondonexplorerMan  over a year ago

Ascot

Several years ago I was fortunate enough to have a BJ friend. She loved sucking my cock and once or twice a month would call me up to ask me if she could meet me to suck my cock.

She would pick me up in her car, drive somewhere quiet, unzip me, give an incredible blow job, swallowed the lot, zipped me back up and drove me home.

She clearly loved it so much that I didn't want to ever deprive her.

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By *aling69 OP   Man  over a year ago

London


"Because there was something about the tone of the quote that threw up some red flags, and because OP hasn’t responded to my question about where it came from, I googled it. Surprise surprise, it’s from a pick-up artist website. The full quote:

“ To many women, sex is a big deal. If you really think about it, it’s a massive act of surrender and vulnerability to let herself be penetrated by another human being.

Here’s the secret every man who wants to know how to get a blow job with any amount of consistency needs to know, though: for a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing.

A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it.

Some girls will even give a blow job without thinking twice about it. They’ll engage in the activity as if it were on the same level as making out. So if you want to put yourself in the position where you get a blow job more often than you currently do, then it’s important to stop building it up in your head.

I’ve also known some individuals in the seduction industry to assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be. So remember: it’s just a blow job. It’s not sex. It doesn’t make her a whore. It’s just fun and enjoyable.”

OP, PUAs are the worst, stop taking their advice. Women are not a commodity, trying to pressure a woman into giving a BJ because “it’s not sex” isn’t a good thing to do, and believe me when I say a woman who feels pressured into it is not going to find it “fun and enjoyable”. Women are all individuals, but PUA advice ignores that fact and provides a one size fits all approach. As you can see from the replies here we all have different views on this subject, so assuming every woman you meet will “willingly” “service” you if you say it’s not sex isn’t going to work."

Apologies for not responding earlier to where I read the quote, it was here

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-get-blow-job-any-girl-you-want-its-easy

I agree with your comments, I was just wondering how women feel about soft swing as opposed to meeting a guy from FS for penetration. I was wondering if it would be easier to get these types of meets (and as others have said, yes it's a 2 way street so it's not all about servicing, terrible phrase, the guy). And yes, having full sex after would be great so also agree with these comments.

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By *inful xWoman  over a year ago

In a sleepy little village

For me a blowjob is part of foreplay. After foreplay comes penetrative sex. No penetrative sex = no foreplay and no foreplay = no penetrative sex.

Both together or none at all for me

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By *aling69 OP   Man  over a year ago

London


"To all the women out there, I would like to know your thoughts on this, is this a fair statement?

"For a huge swath of women, sex and blow jobs are not the same thing. A lot of girls just don’t really see blow jobs in the same light as sexual intercourse. Yes, they are servicing you, but a lot of girls legitimately enjoy a good sucking session. And for them, it doesn’t present the same level of open surrender as does having sex, so they will much more willingly do it."

I ask as I'm sure like most men on this site, I find it really difficult to find a couple or a woman who would happily give a good blow job to a guy (and vice versa if they want), finding soft swing partners seems just as hard as finding full swing partners when if the statement above is a fair comment to the majority, then it should be a bit easier to find women and couples who like to indulge in oral/soft swing.

Have you found lots who will give a bad blow job?"

No not at all.

The blog which I read on the internet caught me by surprise so I thought I'd share it for debate. I often wondered are there couples or single women who would be more likely to meet a guy for soft swing as opposed to full sex. Some have said as a couple they invite a guy for soft swing but not for full sex as the husband or boyfriend would do that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Reckon someone's been paying for it! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For me I find oral more intimate that sex.

I wouldn’t meet a guy to just suck him off even though it turns me on doing it. But saying that, there is one guy that I will do it for as I know him and he uses his fingers in me as he knows I get a lot of pleasure out of that.

I often see status updates from guys looking for a suck and go meet and it puts me off them instantly.

Pleasure should be a two way thing

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London


"

"[to] assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be".

Gulp. The whole thing is pretty horrid, but that line in particular! And, no, not trying to virtue signal - just don't find having to 'persuade' anyone particularly sexy!

I think the OP's latest status let's on where this post was going...!

I know, it’s grim isn’t it - I find it a bit scary that there are so many men out there who think like that or who believe that this kind of technique is ok. I’ve never understood it myself, surely having to “persuade” someone is less fun!

And I think you might be right there lol

There was the guy who got sentenced for it recently wasn’t there. He had a YouTube channel showing him approaching women.

It’s the whole don’t take no for an answer that really bothers me. “If she puts up any resistance”. Makes my skin crawl "

I know...need to finish that sentence for them: "if she puts up any resistance...you don't have consent and are likely to be committing a sexual assault..."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you have a smoke afterwards, then yes.

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London


"

"[to] assuage a girl if she puts up any resistance by reiterating the fact that ‘it’s not sex’. And then they get a blow job. You’d be surprised at how effective that friendly reminder can truly be".

Gulp. The whole thing is pretty horrid, but that line in particular! And, no, not trying to virtue signal - just don't find having to 'persuade' anyone particularly sexy!

I think the OP's latest status let's on where this post was going...!

I know, it’s grim isn’t it - I find it a bit scary that there are so many men out there who think like that or who believe that this kind of technique is ok. I’ve never understood it myself, surely having to “persuade” someone is less fun!

And I think you might be right there lol"

Yep, persuasion (or coercion, more accurately) is not my ideal foreplay!!

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By *aling69 OP   Man  over a year ago

London


"For me I find oral more intimate that sex.

I wouldn’t meet a guy to just suck him off even though it turns me on doing it. But saying that, there is one guy that I will do it for as I know him and he uses his fingers in me as he knows I get a lot of pleasure out of that.

I often see status updates from guys looking for a suck and go meet and it puts me off them instantly.

Pleasure should be a two way thing "

Thanks, that's really good to know and I agree with you 100%

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By *east88Couple  over a year ago

darlington

My wife thinks kissing and oral sex with a swinging partner is more intimate than fucking.

Maybe it’s the mouth?

Thoughts peeps?

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