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I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question. |
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question
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It's along the line of how I was thinking. It's caused a bit if an argument between me and s friend. She believed that TV's dont think like that at all |
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question
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It's along the line of how I was thinking. It's caused a bit if an argument between me and s friend. She believed that TV's dont think like that at all"
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By *etasubTV/TS
over a year ago
West of Newcastle-upon-Tyne |
I used to CD and was at a party and one of the guys thought I was female so I took it as quite a compliment and also it was a turn on for me. Maybe though he needed an appointment at Specsavers |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
Good for you your straight i get no kick from straight guys thinking I'm female I'm me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do it for me....and those I meet! I think that crossdressing, as opposed to being a transvestite, is more about fantasy than feeling a need to dress more like the person you feel you really are. So if a guy, straight or otherwise, wants to believe I'm their (fantasy) woman, at least until they've finished, then go for it, no harm done. What pisses me off though is the 'straight' arseholes who constantly try to decieve ladies by not being man enough to admit they dabble with guys too. Grrrr! Rant over, Merry Crimbo!
Now, who wants a shag???.... |
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question
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It's along the line of how I was thinking. It's caused a bit if an argument between me and s friend. She believed that TV's dont think like that at all
Will you feel the need to apologise after admitting you’re wrong? X"
If I'm wrong of course. you're another enigma, people who.like to ruin, change the course of a thread, instead of starting your own! |
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question
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It's along the line of how I was thinking. It's caused a bit if an argument between me and s friend. She believed that TV's dont think like that at all
Will you feel the need to apologise after admitting you’re wrong? X
If I'm wrong of course. you're another enigma, people who.like to ruin, change the course of a thread, instead of starting your own!"
I’m confused as to why you think I’ve changed the course of the thread? Without answering a simple I think you’re wrong I replied |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
I often wonder if the straight guys that message me realise I'm a Tv? Sometimes I ask them and they usually reply with "yes, love Tv's"
It makes me feel quite confident when these guys are chatting me up. I do understand that they were probably turned down by regular girls first. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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But straight men ain't really straight if there having sex with a man , ain't they just trying to kid themselves that a man dressed as a woman is a woman ? There still fucking a mans hole . That's my take on it |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
To be honest, alot of them probably don't even think about guys when they are dressing up, they most likely do it for themselves and making themselves feel good. |
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TVs are no more alike than any other group of random people notionally assembled into a mass. They have different sexual orientations, reasons for why they are transvestites and the huge range of interests that they have, as other people also do.
Trying to force them into such a grouping ignores the essence of what homo sapiens is.
Many transvestites are not interested in sexual activities connected to their dressing, with others. It's potentially an expression of themselves, not about sexual activity.
This thread is similar in substance to the many threads that repeatedly appear about gay and bi men and their supposed interests in others.
Most people just go about their lives and are indifferent to the presumed fantasies that, especially men seem to want to think that others have about them.
Far better to get to know people as individuals, if you are interested in them, rather than trying to prejudice thinking and potentially inciting a scapegoated effect or marginalisation. If you want to be appreciated for who you are, you can extend that courtesy of respect to others. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
An extra kick perhaps.
But I do this for me, first and foremost.
Not for anyone else's benefit.
I have no idea about anyone else's sexuality and really don't care how they might label themselves.
If a guy finds me attractive, and I find him attractive, I don't waste time over-thinking what is about to happen.
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
I dress for myself. I love having sex while dressed but also love going out.
The thing the excites me the most are the compliments I receive. They could be from males, females, young, old, gay or straight. It doesn't matter who says it. |
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I dress daily because i wouldn't like to go naked to my work place or been naked in public .
When i go clubs or meeting i like to wear more sexy like when i go out for drinks dancing or socialise , ok a litle bit more sexy i mean a litle bit less clothes  when i go clubs or meeting  |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
I don't "dress up", I dress, and no I don't do it for the extra kick that a straight man might be interested. Of course I appreciate it if any man finds me attractive or even gives me that "look" but I don't think about their sexuality. |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
Typical male, thinking it's about dressing for a man, tv's as well as cis women will tell you it's about feeling good about yourself image not about giving some bloke a kick, not everything is about a man. |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question.
Typical male, thinking it's about dressing for a man, tv's as well as cis women will tell you it's about feeling good about yourself image not about giving some bloke a kick, not everything is about a man. "
This 
I wear the clothes I enjoy wearing, in male and female mode. I don't dress for a guy or a girl I dress for me. I regularly get messages from guys asking if I'm into leather, latex, knee length boots etc.. So I'm not some guys fantasy,I'm my own reality enjoying feminine side my way  |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question.
Typical male, thinking it's about dressing for a man, tv's as well as cis women will tell you it's about feeling good about yourself image not about giving some bloke a kick, not everything is about a man.
This
I wear the clothes I enjoy wearing, in male and female mode. I don't dress for a guy or a girl I dress for me. I regularly get messages from guys asking if I'm into leather, latex, knee length boots etc.. So I'm not some guys fantasy,I'm my own reality enjoying feminine side my way "
My point easy,do you dress for others it's, us there a different feeling when a straight male appreciates you because he thought you were a woman, because you got it right, and he believed you were a woman |
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"No,like others have said,I dress for me not anyone else.If they find me attractive, that's a bonus, not in a sexual way but because it shows I'm achieving my aim"
So.... Is there any more of a bonus because a straight male is "convinced" or "fooled" by your efforts?
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"No,like others have said,I dress for me not anyone else.If they find me attractive, that's a bonus, not in a sexual way but because it shows I'm achieving my aim
So.... Is there any more of a bonus because a straight male is "convinced" or "fooled" by your efforts?
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I don't try to fool anyone. I do this because this is me. Can I just add your profile does not show any signs you like a TV or ts yet here you are on a thread about such. |
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I don't dress to turn guy heads but the thrill of being asked out as I'm dressed makes it all worth while.
I love to be dressed, it give my bi side a kick while having sex. The fact that guys love it too (straight and bi) heightens all the senses. |
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over a year ago
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
i dont even have a TV   |
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"No,like others have said,I dress for me not anyone else.If they find me attractive, that's a bonus, not in a sexual way but because it shows I'm achieving my aim
So.... Is there any more of a bonus because a straight male is "convinced" or "fooled" by your efforts?
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Napoleon's in Manchester (a known Tgirl haunt) once charged people £1 to get in but free to a Tgirl. He asked me for a £1 (I was a lot younger then ) as I'm guessing he thought I was a girl. A massive compliment for me
However I wasn't trying to 'fool or be convincing' for him...I was trying to be as convincing for me ! I don't care too much, it's lovely to get compliments but I don't dress for anyone but me ... selfish reasons only.
Straight, Bi or Gay very few dress to attract a select sexuality, if they find us attractive great, if not that's also fine. |
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"No,like others have said,I dress for me not anyone else.If they find me attractive, that's a bonus, not in a sexual way but because it shows I'm achieving my aim
So.... Is there any more of a bonus because a straight male is "convinced" or "fooled" by your efforts?
Napoleon's in Manchester (a known Tgirl haunt) once charged people £1 to get in but free to a Tgirl. He asked me for a £1 (I was a lot younger then ) as I'm guessing he thought I was a girl. A massive compliment for me
However I wasn't trying to 'fool or be convincing' for him...I was trying to be as convincing for me ! I don't care too much, it's lovely to get compliments but I don't dress for anyone but me ... selfish reasons only.
Straight, Bi or Gay very few dress to attract a select sexuality, if they find us attractive great, if not that's also fine."
I think the word compliment is another variation on the theme. I'll take that helping to prove my point. Nothing wrong with admitting it ! |
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"No,like others have said,I dress for me not anyone else.If they find me attractive, that's a bonus, not in a sexual way but because it shows I'm achieving my aim
So.... Is there any more of a bonus because a straight male is "convinced" or "fooled" by your efforts?
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Not at all,I don't dress to attract men , straight or otherwise |
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Nope, what i wear has nothing to do with anyone else, male or female. I dress as me, in my clothes. If I'm going somewhere fancy i wear something nice, if I'm doing something ordinary i wear something casual. If I'm going to a sex club i strip down to my sexy lingerie. But however I'm dressed and wherever i am, it's certainly nothing to do with trying to convince anybody about anything, or getting a kick out of "passing". Tbh I don't give a toss what other people think.
And I'm pretty sure OP, that most women are the same. When they get dressed up, put on make up, smell nice - it's not done for the benefit of men. We do it so that we look good and feel good for our own benefit. |
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"Nope, what i wear has nothing to do with anyone else, male or female. I dress as me, in my clothes. If I'm going somewhere fancy i wear something nice, if I'm doing something ordinary i wear something casual. If I'm going to a sex club i strip down to my sexy lingerie. But however I'm dressed and wherever i am, it's certainly nothing to do with trying to convince anybody about anything, or getting a kick out of "passing". Tbh I don't give a toss what other people think.
And I'm pretty sure OP, that most women are the same. When they get dressed up, put on make up, smell nice - it's not done for the benefit of men. We do it so that we look good and feel good for our own benefit."
I appreciate your honesty. |
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"No,like others have said,I dress for me not anyone else.If they find me attractive, that's a bonus, not in a sexual way but because it shows I'm achieving my aim
So.... Is there any more of a bonus because a straight male is "convinced" or "fooled" by your efforts?
Napoleon's in Manchester (a known Tgirl haunt) once charged people £1 to get in but free to a Tgirl. He asked me for a £1 (I was a lot younger then ) as I'm guessing he thought I was a girl. A massive compliment for me
However I wasn't trying to 'fool or be convincing' for him...I was trying to be as convincing for me ! I don't care too much, it's lovely to get compliments but I don't dress for anyone but me ... selfish reasons only.
Straight, Bi or Gay very few dress to attract a select sexuality, if they find us attractive great, if not that's also fine.
I think the word compliment is another variation on the theme. I'll take that helping to prove my point. Nothing wrong with admitting it !"
Obviously you don't understand my answer to come to that conclusion, so I'll leave you with your ignorance |
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over a year ago
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
A straight guy would have to be blind to think I was actually female.
The main reason I dress is simply because it feels right, most of my socialising as Sam has no sexual element at all.
On the other hand playing the female role in the bedroom is a turn-on, although I would never meet a guy who identifies as straight. Underneath the wig, make-up and clothes, I am still male, and any sexual partner needs to be comfortable with that |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question.
A straight guy would have to be blind to think I was actually female.
The main reason I dress is simply because it feels right, most of my socialising as Sam has no sexual element at all.
On the other hand playing the female role in the bedroom is a turn-on, although I would never meet a guy who identifies as straight. Underneath the wig, make-up and clothes, I am still male, and any sexual partner needs to be comfortable with that"
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question
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It's along the line of how I was thinking. It's caused a bit if an argument between me and s friend. She believed that TV's dont think like that at all
Will you feel the need to apologise after admitting you’re wrong? X
If I'm wrong of course. you're another enigma, people who.like to ruin, change the course of a thread, instead of starting your own!"
My thoughts would be you’re wrong! ... I don’t dress to have people believe I’m female I dress to, hopefully, be appreciated as a TV... I don’t think many, though I know there are the few, believe they appear ‘full female’ and certainly not under the ruse of continuing the charade until things become more obvious. You’ve completely missed the replies you’ve had, been bit rude in some and are, seemingly, no more aware that you are wrong than when you started . |
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Best way to see us girls as we are is at a swingers club or even out in Leeds or Manchester.
That way you'll see who we are. I like to socialize. That's my main aim not sex. That happens if it feels right like anyone else on either scene.
I go out because I want to be Sonya and in transition to be fulltime x |
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question
though
It's along the line of how I was thinking. It's caused a bit if an argument between me and s friend. She believed that TV's dont think like that at all
Will you feel the need to apologise after admitting you’re wrong? X
If I'm wrong of course. you're another enigma, people who.like to ruin, change the course of a thread, instead of starting your own!
My thoughts would be you’re wrong! ... I don’t dress to have people believe I’m female I dress to, hopefully, be appreciated as a TV... I don’t think many, though I know there are the few, believe they appear ‘full female’ and certainly not under the ruse of continuing the charade until things become more obvious. You’ve completely missed the replies you’ve had, been bit rude in some and are, seemingly, no more aware that you are wrong than when you started . "
Thank you
That happen to me actually , people look at my profile picture and they think is for fun but when they look at my gallery and see my pictures they ask if is real me . When i go to clubs i always let people know i am a transgender woman and all people have been always polite even in my daily life . Shame is in this site where we should respect each other that not always hapen .
Thank you for your words xxx |
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I dress as a women and if a guy thinks I look like a women then I’ve achieved my goal to look femin I’ve had messages from guys that say they are straight but fancy me dressed and would I meet them.
I find that flattering and a turn on for me xx Suzy xx |
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By *corcherMan
over a year ago
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I dress for me. I love lingerie, how it looks, how it feels. I know I probably look ridiculous, but I feel good. I haven't met many people dressed, as I'm not convincing enough or attractive enough.
It's a fairly old fashioned view that the trannys (& the gays) are trying to trick good honest straights into having sex with them. I'd hope we're past that now |
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over a year ago
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I don't many TVs would try to fool man that they are a woman. and some are very convincing.Apart from it being wrong, and they run the risk of getting beaten up. |
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"I dress for me. I love lingerie, how it looks, how it feels. I know I probably look ridiculous, but I feel good. I haven't met many people dressed, as I'm not convincing enough or attractive enough.
It's a fairly old fashioned view that the trannys (& the gays) are trying to trick good honest straights into having sex with them. I'd hope we're past that now"
Are you for real what an idiot to make a statement like that ! |
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"The one we are trying to trick straight men into sex statement.
Didn’t it say that view was old fashioned and that we are hopefully past that now?? Think she meant that’s an out of date view?! "
He sorry |
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By *corcherMan
over a year ago
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Maybe I wasn't clear. I don't believe this at all.
I've seen this in the past though, which is what I meant by old fashioned. It's been used as a plot device in TV & movies. When I was young, it was joked about that this might happen.
Like I said, I like to think it's in the past now |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Maybe I wasn't clear. I don't believe this at all.
I've seen this in the past though, which is what I meant by old fashioned. It's been used as a plot device in TV & movies. When I was young, it was joked about that this might happen.
Like I said, I like to think it's in the past now"
Sounds like something that exists in the shemale porn shelf.
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Straight Guys know exactly what they are getting because they are the ones who read profiles and send messages to Katie, I don’t send any messages I only reply. Once an ex GF said “women don’t dress to pull men, they dress fir other women” I kinda got it as she said it was about taking other women out of the competition for men’s attention, when I dress as Katie I dress for me as I would not have bought the outfits, undies or high heels I have if I did not like them or the style and image they project so I am dressed in things I like, but I love to dress in what exactly turns on the people who are being attracted to Katie as I want to have maximum impact as their ideal woman and then if I decide to play then Katie will get maximum benefits based on the fact they are getting exactly what turns them on. The more they like the more feminine I feel and the more womanly I am then when they take Katie |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wouldn’t say I get an added kick from straight males thinking I’m female as would be shocked if they even thought that considering I’m clearly showing as a TV. I love expressing my feminine side for me and if others enjoy how I look then great, if not I couldn’t give a shit lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think I get more "straight" males viewing my profile than bi."
Ah when I was into showing my profile that was the case here too.
But to reply to the op...no I used to dress for myself and maybe the odd woman...if a bloke had fancied me, well let's just say he was barking up the wrong tree |
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"Maybe I wasn't clear. I don't believe this at all.
I've seen this in the past though, which is what I meant by old fashioned. It's been used as a plot device in TV & movies. When I was young, it was joked about that this might happen.
Like I said, I like to think it's in the past now"
Society is moving on, but that sort of attitude has not gone completely - there are still blokes out there who would not be comfortable with gay friends on the grounds their friend would be trying to seduce them. The attitude that a TV is probably a gay man trying to attract a straight partner is similarly outdated - a bit like the idea that a woman wearing a short skirt is asking for it.
In general I buy clothes because I want to wear them, although obviously what I chose to wear when meeting somebody is different to a shopping trip.
It is nice when an admirer likes my choice of clothes, in the same way as if somebody likes my suit or my aftershave when I am dressed as a guy. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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In general I buy clothes because I want to wear them, although obviously what I chose to wear when meeting somebody is different to a shopping trip.
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Have you ever had sex in a shop?
I went to a guy's office above the warehouse once.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Have you ever had sex in a shop?
I went to a guy's office above the warehouse once.
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No. The idea of having sex is somebody's office is a turn-on though. Love the idea of being a naughty secretary. |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question.i dont even have a TV that joke is nearly as old as Noahs ark "
And never funny |
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In general I buy clothes because I want to wear them, although obviously what I chose to wear when meeting somebody is different to a shopping trip.
Have you ever had sex in a shop?
I went to a guy's office above the warehouse once.
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Sara you're wild x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think I get more "straight" males viewing my profile than bi."
Glad it is not just me. I get a lot of messages from "straight" men, mostly along the lines of "can you meet me in 20 minutes".
Takes longer than that to choose an outfit, let alone to do my make-up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm personally not interested in straight men, but of course I appreciate a compliment from anyone. I always feel insecure with straight men because I will never be a biological female, which they claim to be their interest. I like meeting people who are comfortable in saying what they like, makes me feel a lot better. |
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I d agree with her, i think the first thing i felt i needed to overcome was the fact that everyone could recognise my maleness, or masculinity my build , bone structure , my feet , hands and thats before any none verbal things like mannerisms , posture , gait , ( walking , standing sitting , turning, climbing or descending stairs . What i really expect to be honest is abuse , |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I personally am attracted to the beauty of a person. I've dated and fancied both trans and tv and had some great experiences. I'd also be equally happy dating a heterosexual lady.
It's too easy to put people in boxes when sexiality is a spectrum |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question.
Typical male, thinking it's about dressing for a man, tv's as well as cis women will tell you it's about feeling good about yourself image not about giving some bloke a kick, not everything is about a man. "
You clearly formed an opinion before you understood,if at all, the thread. |
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Sussex Steve you are just very presumptuous if you think tgirls dress purely to attract straight guys.Lots of straight guys on fab are too shit scared to admit they fancy tgirls.Hence they don't put their preference on here.Being bi isn't a crime so live with it. |
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I’m only a CD which I do as a stress release and also for sexual gratification. I also enjoy being pegged by my wife while I am ‘en femme’ however it would take a great deal of trust before I would let a male anywhere near my backside. I too get a lot of positive comments about my photos mainly from men who try to convince others that they are straight. I’m sorry, a man taking a sexual interest in another man is not straight. |
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Straight guys often see tgirls as women as women its down your perception.Its not always about sexual gratification as obviously dome think.Please try to get out of the mindset that trans are just men in a dress |
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"Ageist Clem you knob"
Just think you could be a bit more open minded. It's not your age, but it's your generation. Not your fault. Sorry about the boomer thing. Things aren't as black and white these days. |
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Clem I believe that you amongst others are transphobic so insulting my generation doesn't wash.I am quite forward in my views but it cuts when trolls like you take every opportunity to have go at the trans community. It think it's more about your limited perspective than mine. Not surprising I blocked you. |
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"Clem I believe that you amongst others are transphobic so insulting my generation doesn't wash.I am quite forward in my views but it cuts when trolls like you take every opportunity to have go at the trans community. It think it's more about your limited perspective than mine. Not surprising I blocked you. "
Jesus.  i suggest you ignore my "Trolling" if it doesn't agree with your conservative views. |
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I have to agree with Maria's comments regarding the trolling on here by certain people who think it is funny to poke fun at people like myself who are doing nothing wrong apart from living our lives without harming anybody at all.
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By *astpoetMan
over a year ago
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"I have to agree with Maria's comments regarding the trolling on here by certain people who think it is funny to poke fun at people like myself who are doing nothing wrong apart from living our lives without harming anybody at all.
Leanne "
I can't believe anyone in this day and age thinks it's right to be transphobic, especially not in a community like this.
T-girls might not be your taste but they're beautiful, emotional people, and in many ways they embody the swinging community.
You won't find more open minded, excepting and sexy people, people who'd never judge but have been on a journey to where they are and accept.
I hope most folk here feel the same, and you all feel safe, loved (and lusted after) because you're fierce and awesome women. |
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"Sussex Steve you are just very presumptuous if you think tgirls dress purely to attract straight guys.Lots of straight guys on fab are too shit scared to admit they fancy
tgirls.Hence they don't put their preference on here.Being bi isn't a crime so live with it. "
Try and read it again ! I was Asking something specific while accepting there were different aspects to it. That's what you missed. |
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I dress mainly because it turns me on. I love women's clothes and lingerie. That said, I do find it a turn on when people think I am passable. It doesn't matter if they are men - straight, big or gay - or women. Although I am much more into women. It is probably down to being complimented. People saying you look attractive makes you feel good. |
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By *eannaTV/TS
over a year ago
Cwmfelifach, nr Newport |
"I dress mainly because it turns me on. I love women's clothes and lingerie. That said, I do find it a turn on when people think I am passable. It doesn't matter if they are men - straight, big or gay - or women. Although I am much more into women. It is probably down to being complimented. People saying you look attractive makes you feel good."
I totally agree |
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I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people. |
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"Sussex Steve you are just very presumptuous if you think tgirls dress purely to attract straight guys.Lots of straight guys on fab are too shit scared to admit they fancy
tgirls.Hence they don't put their preference on here.Being bi isn't a crime so live with it.
Try and read it again ! I was Asking something specific while accepting there were different aspects to it. That's what you missed."
You keep defending yourself Steve but this is what you wrote in your opening post "I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up".
Now that you can see that that isn't actually the case at all have you changed your view? x |
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people. "
It always seems to be a trans person who gets a ban. The trolls are never banned and trsnsphobic comments are never removed from the thread.
Admin need to change there attitude or maybe we need to start reporting transphobia directly to the police x |
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
It always seems to be a trans person who gets a ban. The trolls are never banned and trsnsphobic comments are never removed from the thread.
Admin need to change there attitude or maybe we need to start reporting transphobia directly to the police x"
I noticed Maria spitting and hissing and accusing on other threads, even of people who were clearly not bigots but had alternative views. People cannot breath on this site without angry trans kicking up, anyone would think this site is only for trans and everything has to be their way. Other groups get bashed but do not get hysterical and threaten with police. It is getting boring now, you are not winning hearts and minds |
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
It always seems to be a trans person who gets a ban. The trolls are never banned and trsnsphobic comments are never removed from the thread.
Admin need to change there attitude or maybe we need to start reporting transphobia directly to the police x
I noticed Maria spitting and hissing and accusing on other threads, even of people who were clearly not bigots but had alternative views. People cannot breath on this site without angry trans kicking up, anyone would think this site is only for trans and everything has to be their way. Other groups get bashed but do not get hysterical and threaten with police. It is getting boring now, you are not winning hearts and minds "
I think you've got that wrong big style. We do not think we own this site. I'll tell you this though this site is v quick to give any trans a ban. I've had many a ban for virtually nothing. When I complain to admin about people, they do absolutely nothing. I think some mods jump the gun and hit the button far too quickly. I will always stick up for my fellow, trans friends. A lot on here do not understand us at all. There are too many idiots who have an awful lot to say without having any inclination on what we are all about. There are plenty of threads on here aimed specifically at trans people and then along come the clever dicks to muck it up. If they have no interest in us why do they feel it necessary to comment. Like I say if you don't like me you can cross the road.... End of |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"My philosophy is: it's none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am, and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier."
- Anthony Hopkins
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
It always seems to be a trans person who gets a ban. The trolls are never banned and trsnsphobic comments are never removed from the thread.
Admin need to change there attitude or maybe we need to start reporting transphobia directly to the police
I noticed Maria spitting and hissing and accusing on other threads, even of people who were clearly not bigots but had alternative views. People cannot breath on this site without angry trans kicking up, anyone would think this site is only for trans and everything has to be their way. Other groups get bashed but do not get hysterical and threaten with police. It is getting boring now, you are not winning hearts and minds I think you've got that wrong big style. We do not think we own this site. I'll tell you this though this site is v quick to give any trans a ban. I've had many a ban for virtually nothing. When I complain to admin about people, they do absolutely nothing. I think some mods jump the gun and hit the button far too quickly. I will always stick up for my fellow, trans friends. A lot on here do not understand us at all. There are too many idiots who have an awful lot to say without having any inclination on what we are all about. There are plenty of threads on here aimed specifically at trans people and then along come the clever dicks to muck it up. If they have no interest in us why do they feel it necessary to comment. Like I say if you don't like me you can cross the road.... End of "
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"Sussex Steve you are just very presumptuous if you think tgirls dress purely to attract straight guys.Lots of straight guys on fab are too shit scared to admit they fancy
tgirls.Hence they don't put their preference on here.Being bi isn't a crime so live with it.
Try and read it again ! I was Asking something specific while accepting there were different aspects to it. That's what you missed.
You keep defending yourself Steve but this is what you wrote in your opening post "I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up".
Now that you can see that that isn't actually the case at all have you changed your view? x "
I think some have confirmed my view and others not, and most, like a lot of people are talking about something else! It should be quite easy, yes I do, no I don't... Read back and it's gone to open season on all things TV etc. |
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people. "
I've no desire particularly to defend Mr Fandango but I can't see anything that he said that was transphobic and I've read the exchanges a few times. The boomer comment was well out of order though, disgraceful actually, but Maria said twice she was happy to accept a ban and that's what did it for her. It's a chill out ban. |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
Right..........
The first thing is :
My friends and new people I meet always tell me how Stunning and Beautiful I look.
The second thing is :
When strangers in crowds (guys and/or girls) keep staring at me...... it can be quite uncomfortable (although sometimes they could be admiring me), but it gets me all Paranoid and extremely Anxious about whether something is wrong with my make-up, etc.
It can be quite Traumatic for me if I let my thoughts get the better of me.............
But I clock them constantly looking at me up and down or at my legs and footwear, it’s ‘panic over’.... (at least for a little while) |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
From my own personal prospective.
I dress for me first.
I wish to be a femine as possible.
If I pass unnoticed in a busy shopping centre, I feel free.
If a man finds me attractive because of how I look or dress. It is a nice but not a requirement of validation. |
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It wasn't my plot, to decide to dress as a girl, to have a total infatuation with stockings, to then take it to the level of buting make-up, shoes, clothes, wig etc But ever since I was young, I alsways wondered what it felt like for a girl to be fucked. I didn't ecactly have a choice in how that question was answered, but I have zero regrets in finding myself acting slutty infront of a nice big cock |
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over a year ago
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
I've no desire particularly to defend Mr Fandango but I can't see anything that he said that was transphobic and I've read the exchanges a few times. The boomer comment was well out of order though, disgraceful actually, but Maria said twice she was happy to accept a ban and that's what did it for her. It's a chill out ban. "
Lisa you are one of the few t-girls on this site I actually respect in how you deal with things. Your approach is the way that builds bridges and understanding in a patient way, not the hysterical victim and police threatening way |
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Whenever I get a (fab)straight man message me I always assume he's scraped the bottom of the barrel for ladies and now desperate enough to think a cock in a frock is still a woman.
I usually ask if they are aware I'm not a woman. Generally they say yes then go quiet. |
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"I feel that TV's get an extra kick from the fact that a straight male will think that they are a female when they dress up. Of course there are different angles to it all, but I'd appreciate your views on it. I'm straight and have no other interests in TV's other than this question."
You never quite got to grips with the question you asked did you? |
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"Whenever I get a (fab)straight man message me I always assume he's scraped the bottom of the barrel for ladies and now desperate enough to think a cock in a frock is still a woman.
I usually ask if they are aware I'm not a woman. Generally they say yes then go quiet. "
I don't usually feel that way at all.If a straight guy messages me, I like to assume its because he's attracted to me as a person,not as a substitute woman! |
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
I've no desire particularly to defend Mr Fandango but I can't see anything that he said that was transphobic and I've read the exchanges a few times. The boomer comment was well out of order though, disgraceful actually, but Maria said twice she was happy to accept a ban and that's what did it for her. It's a chill out ban.
Lisa you are one of the few t-girls on this site I actually respect in how you deal with things. Your approach is the way that builds bridges and understanding in a patient way, not the hysterical victim and police threatening way "
I get what you are saying here but you need to understand the other side of the conversation.
Mods will ban you for being bitchy but are happy to leave other comments and posters alone.
This doesnt reflect a balanced and open environment that Fab should be.
I get some people are on here to get a reaction but certain comments are treat differently to others. If you were on other sites it wouldnt be acceptable but on here people are allowed to get away with it.
Oh and btw i dress for me not anyone else...love and peace x |
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"I like the fact that I can dress sufficiently convincingly for a straight male to find me attractive, that's not quite the same thing as your question though"
I agree with the above. But I just like dressing as femininely as I can anyway to go out and about and do "normal" things as well as being a sexy girl for anyone (male, female or in between) who fancies me.
It's so much more fun being a girl as you can change your appearance to suit your mood from classy to sexy to slutty.....and simply enjoy the delicious sensuality of lovely lingerie, nylons, heels, make up and all the rest.
XXX |
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OP, I think the answer to your question is glaringly obvious from the majority of comments on here. However, you seem to be ignoring those and just jumping triumphantly on the few that agree with you as if they’ve proved your point.
As the partner of a TV I can only say that Abby dresses to please herself and to make her the most feminine version of herself that she can be. Certainly never to attract ‘straight’ men. Who btw inundate her with messages.
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
It always seems to be a trans person who gets a ban. The trolls are never banned and trsnsphobic comments are never removed from the thread.
Admin need to change there attitude or maybe we need to start reporting transphobia directly to the police
I noticed Maria spitting and hissing and accusing on other threads, even of people who were clearly not bigots but had alternative views. People cannot breath on this site without angry trans kicking up, anyone would think this site is only for trans and everything has to be their way. Other groups get bashed but do not get hysterical and threaten with police. It is getting boring now, you are not winning hearts and minds I think you've got that wrong big style. We do not think we own this site. I'll tell you this though this site is v quick to give any trans a ban. I've had many a ban for virtually nothing. When I complain to admin about people, they do absolutely nothing. I think some mods jump the gun and hit the button far too quickly. I will always stick up for my fellow, trans friends. A lot on here do not understand us at all. There are too many idiots who have an awful lot to say without having any inclination on what we are all about. There are plenty of threads on here aimed specifically at trans people and then along come the clever dicks to muck it up. If they have no interest in us why do they feel it necessary to comment. Like I say if you don't like me you can cross the road.... End of
Try looking at the reason for the thread! Why not start your own?"
. Why should I. You set the ball rolling |
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"I see this site has given my friend maria a ban now. Why don't you ban the ones, who actually start stirring it up. This is what is wrong with this site. Admin needs a good shake up. Start banning the right people.
It always seems to be a trans person who gets a ban. The trolls are never banned and trsnsphobic comments are never removed from the thread.
Admin need to change there attitude or maybe we need to start reporting transphobia directly to the police
I noticed Maria spitting and hissing and accusing on other threads, even of people who were clearly not bigots but had alternative views. People cannot breath on this site without angry trans kicking up, anyone would think this site is only for trans and everything has to be their way. Other groups get bashed but do not get hysterical and threaten with police. It is getting boring now, you are not winning hearts and minds I think you've got that wrong big style. We do not think we own this site. I'll tell you this though this site is v quick to give any trans a ban. I've had many a ban for virtually nothing. When I complain to admin about people, they do absolutely nothing. I think some mods jump the gun and hit the button far too quickly. I will always stick up for my fellow, trans friends. A lot on here do not understand us at all. There are too many idiots who have an awful lot to say without having any inclination on what we are all about. There are plenty of threads on here aimed specifically at trans people and then along come the clever dicks to muck it up. If they have no interest in us why do they feel it necessary to comment. Like I say if you don't like me you can cross the road.... End of
Try looking at the reason for the thread! Why not start your own?. Why should I. You set the ball rolling "
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"OP, I think the answer to your question is glaringly obvious from the majority of comments on here. However, you seem to be ignoring those and just jumping triumphantly on the few that agree with you as if they’ve proved your point.
As the partner of a TV I can only say that Abby dresses to please herself and to make her the most feminine version of herself that she can be. Certainly never to attract ‘straight’ men. Who btw inundate her with messages.
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Wow.. nothing like hyperboling your views !! Take a chill pill love!... A few people have confirmed my view, other not, most are talking about other things. I'm not being triumphant, care to shoe where I am? |
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"But straight men ain't really straight if there having sex with a man , ain't they just trying to kid themselves that a man dressed as a woman is a woman ? There still fucking a mans hole . That's my take on it "
I have to agree with this, even though I can understand why men would be interested in TVs, I disagree that they can be truly straight if they are. |
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"OP, I think the answer to your question is glaringly obvious from the majority of comments on here. However, you seem to be ignoring those and just jumping triumphantly on the few that agree with you as if they’ve proved your point.
As the partner of a TV I can only say that Abby dresses to please herself and to make her the most feminine version of herself that she can be. Certainly never to attract ‘straight’ men. Who btw inundate her with messages.
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Wow.. nothing like hyperboling your views !! Take a chill pill love!... A few people have confirmed my view, other not, most are talking about other things. I'm not being triumphant, care to shoe where I am?"
I don’t need a chill pill OP, nor am I exaggerating anything.
You’ve started a thread and I’m merely giving you my opinion on it.
Happy new year to you.
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"But straight men ain't really straight if there having sex with a man , ain't they just trying to kid themselves that a man dressed as a woman is a woman ? There still fucking a mans hole . That's my take on it
I have to agree with this, even though I can understand why men would be interested in TVs, I disagree that they can be truly straight if they are."
They are no way straight, biggest delusion going on here |
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"OP, I think the answer to your question is glaringly obvious from the majority of comments on here. However, you seem to be ignoring those and just jumping triumphantly on the few that agree with you as if they’ve proved your point.
As the partner of a TV I can only say that Abby dresses to please herself and to make her the most feminine version of herself that she can be. Certainly never to attract ‘straight’ men. Who btw inundate her with messages.
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Wow.. nothing like hyperboling your views !! Take a chill pill love!... A few people have confirmed my view, other not, most are talking about other things. I'm not being triumphant, care to shoe where I am?
I don’t need a chill pill OP, nor am I exaggerating anything.
You’ve started a thread and I’m merely giving you my opinion on it.
Happy new year to you.
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Happy NY to you |
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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago
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I can’t speak for all or any other tv/ ts or trans people, only myself.
I dress because that is the real me, nothing to hide, no lie to live or hide within.
I dress , and those that know me will confirm, I’m a tranny( my description of me!) , I do dress to push my own boundaries, I dress what pleases me, and sometimes in doing so pleases other people. This maybe in a sexual way or provide a laugh. I will always stand out - a tranny that starts at 6 foot plus, then throws on heels....
I get both compliments and made fun of in equal measure, I enjoy one and have a thick skin for the other.
My sexuality is such that some men like the company of a tv like myself, there are also some women too. I feel that I am the part of a female when with a man. When with a female I feel that it is a ‘lesbian’ relationship.
I’ll never be able to trick a man unless a big dose of hormones, £50k on surgery and have my own boobs. Throw in a voice coach for good measure.
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I dress because it turns me on. I got a kick out of wearing stockings then as the years went by i got turned on the more things i added which included trying to speak fem (very badly of course) i still fancied the female form being dressed sluty with another woman would have been such a turn on back then and still is. Meeting other sexy tvs the same too. However somewhere along my journey i craved i craved cock purely to feel the ultimate sex. Fast forward to a man when answering the door went wow. He was all over me. Instant turn on right there. Kissing the lot.
I get very turned on now by men liking me. |
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