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I’m handsome but no one wants me dammn

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

sorry but as a single guy on here you need to be above the rest, and you arent, crap profile, crap pic, sorry if this sounds harsh, but truth hurts sometimes, what do you have to offer?

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By *hatMinxOverThereWoman  over a year ago

42 Wallaby Way

I think you need to re-read what you just wrote. If that's the way you're coming across in messages, I'm not surprised you're not getting meets.

That was really quite mean what you wrote.

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp "

I'd give this post another read and then see if you can figure out where you're going wrong. If you can't figure it out, you're doomed!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think you need to re-read what you just wrote. If that's the way you're coming across in messages, I'm not surprised you're not getting meets.

That was really quite mean what you wrote."

take it that was aimed at us, and yes probly a but hard, but honesty is always best, sugur coating doesnt help anyone,dont forget single guys on here out weigh couples and single women by miles, and alot treat it as instashag, im sure you get similar messages to us, so sure you know, we do meet single men, but we wouldnt meet him based on his profile, sorry but we all have a choice, no offence ment

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By *ear and pudCouple  over a year ago

Peterborough


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp "

5 pics and 3 of them are cock pics. Profile is the same as 90% of single men on here. No effort what so ever. And with the attitude of hot women vs old and hairy suggests your here to fuck and feed your ego that is not what swinging is about were very social creatures.

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By *hatMinxOverThereWoman  over a year ago

42 Wallaby Way


"I think you need to re-read what you just wrote. If that's the way you're coming across in messages, I'm not surprised you're not getting meets.

That was really quite mean what you wrote.

take it that was aimed at us, and yes probly a but hard, but honesty is always best, sugur coating doesnt help anyone,dont forget single guys on here out weigh couples and single women by miles, and alot treat it as instashag, im sure you get similar messages to us, so sure you know, we do meet single men, but we wouldnt meet him based on his profile, sorry but we all have a choice, no offence ment"

No I meant the OP!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think you need to re-read what you just wrote. If that's the way you're coming across in messages, I'm not surprised you're not getting meets.

That was really quite mean what you wrote.

take it that was aimed at us, and yes probly a but hard, but honesty is always best, sugur coating doesnt help anyone,dont forget single guys on here out weigh couples and single women by miles, and alot treat it as instashag, im sure you get similar messages to us, so sure you know, we do meet single men, but we wouldnt meet him based on his profile, sorry but we all have a choice, no offence ment

No I meant the OP! "

ok sorry for the confusion

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Profile isn't the best. Maybe less dick pics and show more personality in your bio.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I’m just speaking from my heart . I’m a really honest person with good intentions and maybe i havnt worked fab out yet. You know the first day I ever joined fab that night a sexy hot naughty couple came to my house and I thought wow this is great. I’m bi you see so I’m versatile. I just want to be able to liberate people and be liberated, creating fantasying friends and relationships along the way. Maybe I’m doomed like the lady said wow xx

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"I’m just speaking from my heart . I’m a really honest person with good intentions and maybe i havnt worked fab out yet. You know the first day I ever joined fab that night a sexy hot naughty couple came to my house and I thought wow this is great. I’m bi you see so I’m versatile. I just want to be able to liberate people and be liberated, creating fantasying friends and relationships along the way. Maybe I’m doomed like the lady said wow xx"

You aren't putting yourself across in the best light. Your first post was derogatory about some people here while calling yourself handsome and anazing etc, it's not very endearing.

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"I’m just speaking from my heart . I’m a really honest person with good intentions and maybe i havnt worked fab out yet. You know the first day I ever joined fab that night a sexy hot naughty couple came to my house and I thought wow this is great. I’m bi you see so I’m versatile. I just want to be able to liberate people and be liberated, creating fantasying friends and relationships along the way. Maybe I’m doomed like the lady said wow xx

You aren't putting yourself across in the best light. Your first post was derogatory about some people here while calling yourself handsome and anazing etc, it's not very endearing."

Amazing

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Ok yes I definitely will do that , I will work on my profile and really keep to my morals of being honest but funny, sexy and interesting. I consider myself as not just the normal type. I maybe try too hard to be interesting . I never message a girl with a one liner it’s just not me. I’ve got an amazing personality and I want it to stand out. I’m always told even if it’s a POF or tinder date that I’m sooooo much better in person . So I’ll try to portray more of me xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not everyone is going to fancy you.

Read the site FAQ's about non-replies. No one owes you one.

Some ladies get hundreds of messages a day. If they were to reply to them all with a 'no thanks' they wouldn't have time for anything else - and, be honest, would an inbox full of 'no thank you's' make you feel any better?

People have lives outside of fab you know

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I didn’t mean it to be derogatory whatsoever and offend anyone.. especially the reason being that I’m not being picked! Clearly I’ve only got myself to blame but seems I have slot to learn that’s why I would love help so I can fulfill my liberations and those of others. Fulfill my wildest desires and fantasies as we only live once. Just can’t if I don’t get a chance xx

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By *ollydoesWoman  over a year ago

Shangri-La

Wow arrogance is not attractive..

Just becasue you think your good looking and an amzing catch...dosnt mean everyone else will. Amd im sure they wont after resding this. Id exocet a few blocks instead.

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"I didn’t mean it to be derogatory whatsoever and offend anyone.. especially the reason being that I’m not being picked! Clearly I’ve only got myself to blame but seems I have slot to learn that’s why I would love help so I can fulfill my liberations and those of others. Fulfill my wildest desires and fantasies as we only live once. Just can’t if I don’t get a chance xx"

How is calling people hairy and old not derogatory?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I just meant that the only messages I get are off married old men that’s not why I’m here. I’ve now filtered those out but my inbox is Sahara styles lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

and dont forget, we all know what a dick looks like, when we see a dick pick we block, show something else, you sound like a nice guy, so good luck and i hope you take some of this onboard

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing "

Oh dear, I'm out, good luck, I think you'll need it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thanks for the compliment I’m definitely gonna sort out the dick pic ASAP . Leave something to be desired is better and actually more my style. I don’t play games but if the lady / couple/TS wants to see it they will ask so point taken thanks xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well okay thanks anyway xx take care

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I’m not trying to be arrogant. I have to value myself and my own self worth. I’m genuinely just looking for a help discussion that’s all not trying to be cocky. I would love to be more successful and I know myself and the other person/people won’t regret the time we spent together and the chemistry we had. That’s all . I’m here for a reason and the reason isn’t happening really xx

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By *exfordMan  over a year ago

discombobulated land


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp "

Don't stress about it pal. That's the beauty of fab, it welcomes all men, irrespective of size looks or gender.... And ignores them all!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Like frank Sinatra said “ that’s life “ ????

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By *exfordMan  over a year ago

discombobulated land


"Like frank Sinatra said “ that’s life “ ???? "

Thought that was Ester Rantzen?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

????

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By *untime77xxMan  over a year ago

birmingham

Profile looks good to me lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Ha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Intelligent person does not need to point that fact out in their profile..

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By *he riverdeep69Couple  over a year ago

North west ish

Your profile and this thread obviously reflects you OP. Leave it as it is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good luck I guess. Every lady has their own preference and being on fab doesnt give u the right to get laid.. many many blokes on here and I guess one has gotta stand out from the rest. I ain't had no luck on here yet but reality is there's so many better blokes in here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My advice. Delete your profile. You obviously think you're too good for this site anyway!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I really don’t think I’m too good, I just want to be the best I can be, meet like minded people that want me for who I am but that can’t happen if I don’t get messages etc xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

That’s great to hear that your telling me to just be me but maybe it just needs some help and a little more expertise . I just want help so I can be so naughty and fulfill my desires with people I want and actually get them to connect with me not for them to just be my fantasies xxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Your right but I’ve still got to improve regardless because I want to be here on this amazing site with amazing people you know

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By *he riverdeep69Couple  over a year ago

North west ish

Reply and quote OP - so pleople know who you are replying to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp "
it could be area you live in it could be your lack of profile it could be the way you message it could be your pics but either way the profile is your advert it needs to be at its best 3 men to every woman

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I completely agree yessss indeed. I was just mentioning abit about me and expressing how I feel I’m so naughty and pretty much have no limits so I just need help to get more connections with people I fantasise about on here??. Not good when I can’t get a reply of the person or people I totally crave that’s all, I just want to tell you about me and reiterate the fact I’m a good person xxxx????

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Ok that’s very important and well stated I’ll bare that in mind for sure

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Ok that’s very important and well stated I’ll bare that in mind for sure "
who you responding to? Also just be yourself if you want to meet someone for that special connection it takes time and good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok that’s very important and well stated I’ll bare that in mind for sure who you responding to? Also just be yourself if you want to meet someone for that special connection it takes time and good luck."

Thanks so much I will be myself indeed but I just want to be able to do that with the sexy stunners like you that I fantasise about so much that’s all, wow your beautiful ????

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Ok that’s very important and well stated I’ll bare that in mind for sure who you responding to? Also just be yourself if you want to meet someone for that special connection it takes time and good luck.

Thanks so much I will be myself indeed but I just want to be able to do that with the sexy stunners like you that I fantasise about so much that’s all, wow your beautiful ????"

Behave x

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By *ornylittlesubWoman  over a year ago

Grangemouth

After reading this thread, and your profile, I feel you perhaps dont come across well on here....Its not always easy to do so but I am sure you will get there.

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Great bars and clubs in Manchester for you to meet tgirls x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"After reading this thread, and your profile, I feel you perhaps dont come across well on here....Its not always easy to do so but I am sure you will get there. "

Ok well I best buck up my ideas then hadn’t I as I definitely have to put some work in and try to fulfill my craving fantasies with people.

Something must change for me and I’ll get to explore and experience more and more amazing times. I’m limitless so I can’t go to waste lol ????

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate

In all honesty it's the pouting picture that would put me off initially, maybe those people you're trying to attract feel the same way.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Great bars and clubs in Manchester for you to meet tgirls x"

Indeeeeeddd just that thought Is wild wow amazing

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In all honesty it's the pouting picture that would put me off initially, maybe those people you're trying to attract feel the same way."

Ok I’ll change it now gorgeous ???? thanks ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In all honesty it's the pouting picture that would put me off initially, maybe those people you're trying to attract feel the same way."

Is this better xx I hope so darling and thanks for the input ????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Use the reply and quote button so everyone knows who you're replying to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Use the reply and quote button so everyone knows who you're replying to."

I’ve started doing now seee lol. Learning aren’t i . ? Suppose I have so much more to learn and I’m very willing xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Use the reply and quote button so everyone knows who you're replying to.

I’ve started doing now seee lol. Learning aren’t i . ? Suppose I have so much more to learn and I’m very willing xx"

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"In all honesty it's the pouting picture that would put me off initially, maybe those people you're trying to attract feel the same way.

Is this better xx I hope so darling and thanks for the input ????"

There's still one in your gallery, I'd see it and back out immediately, pouting puts me off instantly. But that's just me, some folk may love it. I'm a firm believer you should post whatever pictures you like and not really give a shit what others think, that way you'll attract the best people for you

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Use the reply and quote button so everyone knows who you're replying to.

I’ve started doing now seee lol. Learning aren’t i . ? Suppose I have so much more to learn and I’m very willing xx

"

Love smiles in a morning it’s my medicine xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

5 pics and 3 of them are cock pics. Profile is the same as 90% of single men on here. No effort what so ever. And with the attitude of hot women vs old and hairy suggests your here to fuck and feed your ego that is not what swinging is about were very social creatures."

This sounds honest and true OP!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In all honesty it's the pouting picture that would put me off initially, maybe those people you're trying to attract feel the same way.

Is this better xx I hope so darling and thanks for the input ????

There's still one in your gallery, I'd see it and back out immediately, pouting puts me off instantly. But that's just me, some folk may love it. I'm a firm believer you should post whatever pictures you like and not really give a shit what others think, that way you'll attract the best people for you "

So are you suggesting I get rid of that one then because at the end of the day your beautiful darling and you even could fulfill my fantasies if we wasto connect I read your profile and I know what you have that eventually I’d beg and crave you to give me it’s very high up on my list of fantasies so that being said you wouldn’t chat with me so I lose out on a fantasy with a hot lady like you. Xxx

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By *uckslut and MCouple  over a year ago

Poole

I still don't like your profile, after your updates. Your title is sounding wingy and desprate, "I get overlooked" course you do, been here 4 months. Live in Manchester a major city with 1000's of other single men to compeate against.

Then your profile starts "please understand" why? More begging, and the rest is English your first language? It dose not read with any flow.

2 pictures and the pouting one is not the best - my opinion.

Have a look at other single guys profiles. Pick and choose the best bits drom the sucusseful ones and mirror them.

Don't worry about putting a reply on here to me, as I won't check back.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP, you have clubs down as an interest. Go to the ones where you don't have to dress down, when you walk in! The social side equals fun to find fun!

Good luck x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

5 pics and 3 of them are cock pics. Profile is the same as 90% of single men on here. No effort what so ever. And with the attitude of hot women vs old and hairy suggests your here to fuck and feed your ego that is not what swinging is about were very social creatures.

This sounds honest and true OP! "

Ok I’ll sort it out ASAP xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing "

Even if you tick their boxes that doesn’t make them attracted to you. Attraction is the biggest box to tick. You sound very entitled discussing your standards and who you expect should be attracted to you. I think you’re good looking but the kissy face photo would be enough to not be interested, as well as the generic profile, and if I saw this forum post it would put me off, but hey I’m probably old and hairy lol

The arrogance and entitlement is really off putting. You need to self yourself, but not by putting people down or insisting you’re the best catch, showing your personality rather than listing what you think your traits are would get you a lot farther. Good luck. - Mrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing

Even if you tick their boxes that doesn’t make them attracted to you. Attraction is the biggest box to tick. You sound very entitled discussing your standards and who you expect should be attracted to you. I think you’re good looking but the kissy face photo would be enough to not be interested, as well as the generic profile, and if I saw this forum post it would put me off, but hey I’m probably old and hairy lol

The arrogance and entitlement is really off putting. You need to self yourself, but not by putting people down or insisting you’re the best catch, showing your personality rather than listing what you think your traits are would get you a lot farther. Good luck. - Mrs "

Amazing advice thanks firm but fair xx

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By *ust_A_Tease_To_PleaseWoman  over a year ago

South Wales: Newport, Chepstow

Read up to this point on the forum, and haven't looked at your profile but I don't need too to see I wouldn't be interested.

This is because of your attitude.

Your coming across as shallow (focusing on your physical appearance), entitled (demands that others should find you appealing and message), it's tell us what you think of yourself (e.g. stating your intelligent instead of demonstrating it), and a selfish fantasist (focusing on you getting your dreams filled rather than remembering women are people, not fantasy outlets - no consideration to the women at all shown).

These are just some of the reasons I'd pass you by.

And once your attitude is better, working out how to make yourself appealing through show (not tell) in your profile is a whole other challenge.

Good luck, but maybe you have something to learn from the old, ugle, hairy guys who are successful at gaining women's interest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also discussing people as specifics that you crave sounds really a bit creepy to me lol

And your desire to have them fill your fantasies. Definitely go to some in person socials and clubs and try to talk to people and see how you do. - Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Read up to this point on the forum, and haven't looked at your profile but I don't need too to see I wouldn't be interested.

This is because of your attitude.

Your coming across as shallow (focusing on your physical appearance), entitled (demands that others should find you appealing and message), it's tell us what you think of yourself (e.g. stating your intelligent instead of demonstrating it), and a selfish fantasist (focusing on you getting your dreams filled rather than remembering women are people, not fantasy outlets - no consideration to the women at all shown).

These are just some of the reasons I'd pass you by.

And once your attitude is better, working out how to make yourself appealing through show (not tell) in your profile is a whole other challenge.

Good luck, but maybe you have something to learn from the old, ugle, hairy guys who are successful at gaining women's interest.

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Read up to this point on the forum, and haven't looked at your profile but I don't need too to see I wouldn't be interested.

This is because of your attitude.

Your coming across as shallow (focusing on your physical appearance), entitled (demands that others should find you appealing and message), it's tell us what you think of yourself (e.g. stating your intelligent instead of demonstrating it), and a selfish fantasist (focusing on you getting your dreams filled rather than remembering women are people, not fantasy outlets - no consideration to the women at all shown).

These are just some of the reasons I'd pass you by.

And once your attitude is better, working out how to make yourself appealing through show (not tell) in your profile is a whole other challenge.

Good luck, but maybe you have something to learn from the old, ugle, hairy guys who are successful at gaining women's interest.

"

Ok I understand I think it’s a little harsh as I am a good person and just a little lost. But words are everything right now although actions do speak louder than words but I can’t show them because of the barriers faced by my wrong image I’ve created xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Also discussing people as specifics that you crave sounds really a bit creepy to me lol

And your desire to have them fill your fantasies. Definitely go to some in person socials and clubs and try to talk to people and see how you do. - Mrs "

I will I’m going to a social in 2 weeks can’t wait xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh I read it as women and tvs were hairy - nothing about guys

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By *lancmangecplCouple  over a year ago

farnborough

OP, have you ever seen The Apprentice on the bbc? I would recommend having a watch and look at how the contestants portray themselves. Most of them appear very arrogant and whether it’s your intention or not, your posts on this thread certainly make you out to have that kind of personality. As someone else said, not sure if English is your first language but it may be wise to get a friend to look over your profile.

Brits tend to be modest whether they look like a god or goddess they won’t generally go shouting about it.

You also mentioned that you would crave a woman eventually. Not many want someone who is needy/clingy and this may put off a lot.

Good luck with your search!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There’s a lot to digest here OP. Read the advice carefully and take sometime to reflect. Do a fundamental rewrite of your profile so it reflects your personality when you feel good rather than in relation to others. Think about how you want others to experience you and convey that. Study other profiles and see what works well and what doesn’t. Then take some pictures that illustrate how you want to portray yourself. Go to clubs and socials if you enjoy that kind of thing, but work on conveying yourself in an authentic but positive way.

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Oh I read it as women and tvs were hairy - nothing about guys "

All I was saying is that a while back ugly married men where inboxing me and I didn’t like that I want to meet the right people xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There’s a lot to digest here OP. Read the advice carefully and take sometime to reflect. Do a fundamental rewrite of your profile so it reflects your personality when you feel good rather than in relation to others. Think about how you want others to experience you and convey that. Study other profiles and see what works well and what doesn’t. Then take some pictures that illustrate how you want to portray yourself. Go to clubs and socials if you enjoy that kind of thing, but work on conveying yourself in an authentic but positive way.

Good luck "

That’s so kind and really amazing thanks. That plan of action suits me indeed. Thanks so much

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There’s a lot to digest here OP. Read the advice carefully and take sometime to reflect. Do a fundamental rewrite of your profile so it reflects your personality when you feel good rather than in relation to others. Think about how you want others to experience you and convey that. Study other profiles and see what works well and what doesn’t. Then take some pictures that illustrate how you want to portray yourself. Go to clubs and socials if you enjoy that kind of thing, but work on conveying yourself in an authentic but positive way.

Good luck

That’s so kind and really amazing thanks. That plan of action suits me indeed. Thanks so much "

You’re welcome- all the best

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP, have you ever seen The Apprentice on the bbc? I would recommend having a watch and look at how the contestants portray themselves. Most of them appear very arrogant and whether it’s your intention or not, your posts on this thread certainly make you out to have that kind of personality. As someone else said, not sure if English is your first language but it may be wise to get a friend to look over your profile.

Brits tend to be modest whether they look like a god or goddess they won’t generally go shouting about it.

You also mentioned that you would crave a woman eventually. Not many want someone who is needy/clingy and this may put off a lot.

Good luck with your search!"

Ok yesss I love the apprentice maybe it’s rubbed off on me .

I think I am needy right now I’m lonely in some ways and I have so much to offer and give in the kindest hearted ways . Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There’s a lot to digest here OP. Read the advice carefully and take sometime to reflect. Do a fundamental rewrite of your profile so it reflects your personality when you feel good rather than in relation to others. Think about how you want others to experience you and convey that. Study other profiles and see what works well and what doesn’t. Then take some pictures that illustrate how you want to portray yourself. Go to clubs and socials if you enjoy that kind of thing, but work on conveying yourself in an authentic but positive way.

Good luck

That’s so kind and really amazing thanks. That plan of action suits me indeed. Thanks so much

You’re welcome- all the best "

Thanks means a lot

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By *uxom redCouple  over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"Oh I read it as women and tvs were hairy - nothing about guys

All I was saying is that a while back ugly married men where inboxing me and I didn’t like that I want to meet the right people xx"

Op your idea of ugly is someone else's beautiful, it's good to remember that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh I read it as women and tvs were hairy - nothing about guys

All I was saying is that a while back ugly married men where inboxing me and I didn’t like that I want to meet the right people xx"

Oh wow!!! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Get to a club. A HUGE amount of people socialise better in person than on here or any other place of texting!

I'm one of them!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Oh I read it as women and tvs were hairy - nothing about guys

All I was saying is that a while back ugly married men where inboxing me and I didn’t like that I want to meet the right people xx

Op your idea of ugly is someone else's beautiful, it's good to remember that.

"

Fair statement I must be more humble it seems then xx

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By *ust_A_Tease_To_PleaseWoman  over a year ago

South Wales: Newport, Chepstow


" ...

Ok I understand I think it’s a little harsh as I am a good person... "

"I am a good person" = tell

Show you are a good person eg 'thank you, although I found this hard to read and digest I will consider it and work on how to improve myself and come across in a better light' - demonstrating good points through politeness, respectfulness, thoughtfulness, and humility.

Show, don't tell.

I'm told I come across as intelligent all the time, I don't mention it once anywhere. I don't need to.

For me, anyone who feels they need to tell me they are intelligent, honest, good, trustworthy, genuine, or pretty much anything - I assume they aren't.

Show, don't tell.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Get to a club. A HUGE amount of people socialise better in person than on here or any other place of texting!

I'm one of them! "

Yes I think that is a solution indeed and I am going to a social in Manchester in a couple weeks do I can chat to people and hopefully make some amazing friends and hopefully more xxx can’t wait but I love this sight and want to improve my digital portrait as you never know who I could meet that is just perfect for me and vise versa xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" ...

Ok I understand I think it’s a little harsh as I am a good person...

"I am a good person" = tell

Show you are a good person eg 'thank you, although I found this hard to read and digest I will consider it and work on how to improve myself and come across in a better light' - demonstrating good points through politeness, respectfulness, thoughtfulness, and humility.

Show, don't tell.

I'm told I come across as intelligent all the time, I don't mention it once anywhere. I don't need to.

For me, anyone who feels they need to tell me they are intelligent, honest, good, trustworthy, genuine, or pretty much anything - I assume they aren't.

Show, don't tell."

Ok that’s very important and I will work on it definitely. I want to come across in the way that is true to me so I will show them I won’t tell I promise xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Oh I read it as women and tvs were hairy - nothing about guys

All I was saying is that a while back ugly married men where inboxing me and I didn’t like that I want to meet the right people xx

Oh wow!!! Lol"

Your wow xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I really don’t think I’m too good, I just want to be the best I can be, meet like minded people that want me for who I am but that can’t happen if I don’t get messages etc xxx"

You're coming across as someone who feels that they are entitled.

Not an attractive quality I'm afraid.

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Op have a cup of tea and a rest now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Get to a club. A HUGE amount of people socialise better in person than on here or any other place of texting!

I'm one of them!

Yes I think that is a solution indeed and I am going to a social in Manchester in a couple weeks do I can chat to people and hopefully make some amazing friends and hopefully more xxx can’t wait but I love this sight and want to improve my digital portrait as you never know who I could meet that is just perfect for me and vise versa xxxxx"

Very true...

Enjoy your social

All the best x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp "

You need a personality to go with your handsome good looks.

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By *STWO65Couple  over a year ago

MIDLANDS


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing "

The standard of lady you deserve?

Deserve??

Seems like an awful sense of entitlement to us.

Put the ego away. Not everyone will think you are good looking.

You really haven't presented yourself well.

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan  over a year ago

stockport wasteland

[Removed by poster at 03/10/19 08:14:51]

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By *ollycouple71Couple  over a year ago

manchester


"Like frank Sinatra said “ that’s life “ ????

Thought that was Ester Rantzen?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Op have a cup of tea and a rest now "

Looolllll xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

You need a personality to go with your handsome good looks. "

Well at least someone thinks I’m attractive xx

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

You need a personality to go with your handsome good looks.

Well at least someone thinks I’m attractive xx"

Looks are not everything I agree about being an attraction but personality and humour are just as important.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

You need a personality to go with your handsome good looks.

Well at least someone thinks I’m attractive xx

Looks are not everything I agree about being an attraction but personality and humour are just as important."

That’s the tho g I really do have personality I want everyone to the people I fancy to embrace and I’ll do the same in return xx

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp

You need a personality to go with your handsome good looks.

Well at least someone thinks I’m attractive xx

Looks are not everything I agree about being an attraction but personality and humour are just as important.

That’s the tho g I really do have personality I want everyone to the people I fancy to embrace and I’ll do the same in return xx"

Are you Polish?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"sorry but as a single guy on here you need to be above the rest, and you arent, crap profile, crap pic, sorry if this sounds harsh, but truth hurts sometimes, what do you have to offer?"

Classy.

You don't need to offer anything, everyone brings something to the table. If you click then you click, don't change who you are just to get your dick wet. Nobody should be that desperate.

Manchester is a busy place, plus as you said.... you're a catch!

Good luck

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"sorry but as a single guy on here you need to be above the rest, and you arent, crap profile, crap pic, sorry if this sounds harsh, but truth hurts sometimes, what do you have to offer?

Classy.

You don't need to offer anything, everyone brings something to the table. If you click then you click, don't change who you are just to get your dick wet. Nobody should be that desperate.

Manchester is a busy place, plus as you said.... you're a catch!

Good luck "

dick wet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"sorry but as a single guy on here you need to be above the rest, and you arent, crap profile, crap pic, sorry if this sounds harsh, but truth hurts sometimes, what do you have to offer?

Classy.

You don't need to offer anything, everyone brings something to the table. If you click then you click, don't change who you are just to get your dick wet. Nobody should be that desperate.

Manchester is a busy place, plus as you said.... you're a catch!

Good luck dick wet "

I meant in the shower

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan  over a year ago

stockport wasteland

Deleting my post because you don't like it says everything haha you think your good looking(confidence) 1 point, personality in profile half a point, profile dick pics 0 points and treating this site like a dating site half a point. You a 2 out of 5. Use ya head in ya profile, put stuff about your person and show your personality. I get more attention off my humour then pictures, hence people I meet say I look better in person. Use your profile to exerbition yourself. My spelling is poop sorry

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"sorry but as a single guy on here you need to be above the rest, and you arent, crap profile, crap pic, sorry if this sounds harsh, but truth hurts sometimes, what do you have to offer?

Classy.

You don't need to offer anything, everyone brings something to the table. If you click then you click, don't change who you are just to get your dick wet. Nobody should be that desperate.

Manchester is a busy place, plus as you said.... you're a catch!

Good luck dick wet

I meant in the shower "

Liar

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London

Don't change a thing, your profile tells me everything I need to know about you.

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan  over a year ago

stockport wasteland


"sorry but as a single guy on here you need to be above the rest, and you arent, crap profile, crap pic, sorry if this sounds harsh, but truth hurts sometimes, what do you have to offer?

Classy.

You don't need to offer anything, everyone brings something to the table. If you click then you click, don't change who you are just to get your dick wet. Nobody should be that desperate.

Manchester is a busy place, plus as you said.... you're a catch!

Good luck dick wet

I meant in the shower "

Funny mate that lol

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By *good-being-badMan  over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing

The standard of lady you deserve?

Deserve??

Seems like an awful sense of entitlement to us.

Put the ego away. Not everyone will think you are good looking.

You really haven't presented yourself well. "

Well don't you deserve the best as a cpl?

In my mind I wouldn't put up with second best.....

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By *aysolCouple  over a year ago

Swansea


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing "

"The standard of lady I think I suite or derserve"

The arrogance is unreal.

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By *dward_TeagueMan  over a year ago

wolverhampton

Wow. Just wow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same."

It doesn't make him a bad guy, just because his wording doesn't fit right with some. How that person comes across on the forum, wouldn't stop me meeting them! I find that narrow minded.....

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Wow. Just wow "
is that it elaborate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Do you really need to ask why Take a look at what you just wrote and imagine all us women reading this... cant you see the problem?

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By *dward_TeagueMan  over a year ago

wolverhampton


"Wow. Just wow is that it elaborate

"

These type of threads always astonish me, single guys including me have to work hard on here, I completely understand why. However to read comments from the OP saying what a catch he is and how wonderful he is makes me cringe. So wow. Just wow.

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Wow. Just wow is that it elaborate

These type of threads always astonish me, single guys including me have to work hard on here, I completely understand why. However to read comments from the OP saying what a catch he is and how wonderful he is makes me cringe. So wow. Just wow."

Thankyou x

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By *dward_TeagueMan  over a year ago

wolverhampton


"Wow. Just wow is that it elaborate

These type of threads always astonish me, single guys including me have to work hard on here, I completely understand why. However to read comments from the OP saying what a catch he is and how wonderful he is makes me cringe. So wow. Just wow.

Thankyou x"

No problem, sorry if you thought that my original post was aimed at you x

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Wow. Just wow is that it elaborate

These type of threads always astonish me, single guys including me have to work hard on here, I completely understand why. However to read comments from the OP saying what a catch he is and how wonderful he is makes me cringe. So wow. Just wow.

Thankyou x

No problem, sorry if you thought that my original post was aimed at you x"

I didn't I wanted your opinion

x

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By *dward_TeagueMan  over a year ago

wolverhampton


"Wow. Just wow is that it elaborate

These type of threads always astonish me, single guys including me have to work hard on here, I completely understand why. However to read comments from the OP saying what a catch he is and how wonderful he is makes me cringe. So wow. Just wow.

Thankyou x

No problem, sorry if you thought that my original post was aimed at you x

I didn't I wanted your opinion

x"

And now you have it lol x

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Wow. Just wow is that it elaborate

These type of threads always astonish me, single guys including me have to work hard on here, I completely understand why. However to read comments from the OP saying what a catch he is and how wonderful he is makes me cringe. So wow. Just wow.

Thankyou x

No problem, sorry if you thought that my original post was aimed at you x

I didn't I wanted your opinion

x

And now you have it lol x"

yep

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No, it’ll be your attitude bringing you down.

You may find yourself attractive, but others might not.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman  over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows


"This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, just because his wording doesn't fit right with some. How that person comes across on the forum, wouldn't stop me meeting them! I find that narrow minded..... "

I must be narrow minded then, as I sure as hell wouldn't meet someone who came across with an ego, attitude, or other issues

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'll be honest, even if you were the hottest guy alive, the way you speak makes you unattractive. It's not a turn on.

Confidence and self assurance yes, but you seem more arrogant. And saying 'I don't mean to sound arrogant', makes it worse.

You've really hung yourself out to dry here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, just because his wording doesn't fit right with some. How that person comes across on the forum, wouldn't stop me meeting them! I find that narrow minded.....

I must be narrow minded then, as I sure as hell wouldn't meet someone who came across with an ego, attitude, or other issues "

Like I said earlier on.... How someone messages and who they really are - two different things. It also works the other way round too.

I've met great texting people who are (in my mind) arrogant when I've chatted to them face to face at events!

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By *STWO65Couple  over a year ago

MIDLANDS


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing

The standard of lady you deserve?

Deserve??

Seems like an awful sense of entitlement to us.

Put the ego away. Not everyone will think you are good looking.

You really haven't presented yourself well.

Well don't you deserve the best as a cpl?

In my mind I wouldn't put up with second best..... "

With experience, we have found that the best people to meet don't have to tell you that they are the best.

Having to tell someone that you are the best usually hides either insecurities or a sense of entitlement bordering on arrogance.

In our humble opinion anyway!

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By *ill dance for wineMan  over a year ago

balloch

I think you need to have a look at how you’re communicating, there’s a few red flag comments that you’ve made which will almost certainly put most women off:

“A women I deserve” - you don’t deserve any women, they are not a commodity like a 60” TV

“I’m amazing” - I’m sure you are, and your self confidence is great, but it’s also very arrogant and sure to put a lot of people off.

I’m not sure if maybe English is a second language and your getting words or phrasing mixed up, but you need to calm it down a good bit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I totally get that but I do try to stand out not being horrible but even the standard of lady I feel I suite or deserve sometimes don’t reply, even if I tick there boxes I’m just clearly struggling and I know deep down I’m an amazing person to be around and with but thanks for your help and support amazing

The standard of lady you deserve?

Deserve??

Seems like an awful sense of entitlement to us.

Put the ego away. Not everyone will think you are good looking.

You really haven't presented yourself well.

Well don't you deserve the best as a cpl?

In my mind I wouldn't put up with second best.....

With experience, we have found that the best people to meet don't have to tell you that they are the best.

Having to tell someone that you are the best usually hides either insecurities or a sense of entitlement bordering on arrogance.

In our humble opinion anyway!"

I think he's just eager to meet.

He must of done something right in messaging though, because he's been invited to a social event. So maybe public speaking on here, isn't for him....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OP, have you ever seen The Apprentice on the bbc? I would recommend having a watch and look at how the contestants portray themselves. Most of them appear very arrogant and whether it’s your intention or not, your posts on this thread certainly make you out to have that kind of personality. As someone else said, not sure if English is your first language but it may be wise to get a friend to look over your profile.

My friend you don’t need anyone... Yove done nothing but suck your self off all morning.

I’ve read most of the comments and it seems to me your digging yourself a big hole.

You seem like you want to get out there but going about it all the wrong way.

You sound desperate but big headed at the same time!

That’s not a good look I’m affraid.

Brits tend to be modest whether they look like a god or goddess they won’t generally go shouting about it.

You also mentioned that you would crave a woman eventually. Not many want someone who is needy/clingy and this may put off a lot.

Good luck with your search!

Ok yesss I love the apprentice maybe it’s rubbed off on me .

I think I am needy right now I’m lonely in some ways and I have so much to offer and give in the kindest hearted ways . Xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OP, have you ever seen The Apprentice on the bbc? I would recommend having a watch and look at how the contestants portray themselves. Most of them appear very arrogant and whether it’s your intention or not, your posts on this thread certainly make you out to have that kind of personality. As someone else said, not sure if English is your first language but it may be wise to get a friend to look over your profile.

My friend you don’t need anyone... Yove done nothing but suck your self off all morning.

I’ve read most of the comments and it seems to me your digging yourself a big hole.

You seem like you want to get out there but going about it all the wrong way.

You sound desperate but big headed at the same time!

That’s not a good look I’m affraid.

Brits tend to be modest whether they look like a god or goddess they won’t generally go shouting about it.

You also mentioned that you would crave a woman eventually. Not many want someone who is needy/clingy and this may put off a lot.

Good luck with your search!

Ok yesss I love the apprentice maybe it’s rubbed off on me .

I think I am needy right now I’m lonely in some ways and I have so much to offer and give in the kindest hearted ways . Xxx"

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"[Removed by poster at 03/10/19 09:31:19]"

Yeah

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By *astyEricMan  over a year ago

Hull

There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman  over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"Ok yes I definitely will do that , I will work on my profile and really keep to my morals of being honest but funny, sexy and interesting. I consider myself as not just the normal type. I maybe try too hard to be interesting . I never message a girl with a one liner it’s just not me. I’ve got an amazing personality and I want it to stand out. I’m always told even if it’s a POF or tinder date that I’m sooooo much better in person . So I’ll try to portray more of me xxx"

Your photos just say arrogancy and not very sexual...what you want to portray? Show it and good luck

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is. "

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude"

Super hero alert

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude

Super hero alert"

Where

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My friend you don’t need attention from others yove been sucking yourself off all morning!!

I think you should really stop now.

Your Digging yourself a hole and it’s not a good look....

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"My friend you don’t need attention from others yove been sucking yourself off all morning!!

I think you should really stop now.

Your Digging yourself a hole and it’s not a good look....

"

He's off line

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My friend you don’t need attention from others yove been sucking yourself off all morning!!

I think you should really stop now.

Your Digging yourself a hole and it’s not a good look....

He's off line"

Must've been me

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"My friend you don’t need attention from others yove been sucking yourself off all morning!!

I think you should really stop now.

Your Digging yourself a hole and it’s not a good look....

He's off line

Must've been me "

Was it?

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"My friend you don’t need attention from others yove been sucking yourself off all morning!!

I think you should really stop now.

Your Digging yourself a hole and it’s not a good look....

He's off line

Must've been me "

You and gorgeous

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My friend you don’t need attention from others yove been sucking yourself off all morning!!

I think you should really stop now.

Your Digging yourself a hole and it’s not a good look....

He's off line

Must've been me

You and gorgeous "

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By *good-being-badMan  over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude"

Your definition of rude may be different to mine. There are comments from the op that I'd take as rude.

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude

Your definition of rude may be different to mine. There are comments from the op that I'd take as rude."

Which is why we are all different

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By *good-being-badMan  over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, just because his wording doesn't fit right with some. How that person comes across on the forum, wouldn't stop me meeting them! I find that narrow minded..... "

We all form opinions on folk based on interactions either first hand or otherwise.

The thread has given folk an opportunity to form an opinion of the op based on his posts and profile. Folk will have an opportunity to alter that opinion if he posts more or they have other interactions with him.

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton


"Im in need of help fellow fabbers! I’m always described as cute and handsome. I’m honest and wear my heart on my sleeve so I’m in the makings of a good catch right? Seems not! I get no look on fab hardly ever with the hot woman and others I really really want. I think and feel it’s due to competition as women and TS girls get hundreds if not thousands of messages. I’m amazing and get hardly any unless they are hairy and old ha. Not what I want. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m an athletic red head who isn’t photogenic as a tall dark n handsome guy? WTF lol. Heeelllpp "
. As a single guy who is not very photogenic who rejoined Fabs in his late 40’s now 51 who can’t accommodate I knew I would struggle to get meets so I changed my mindset.I attend socials and gave out verifications for the people I met and they in turn gave me a verification.I am a member of a club and also go to a non members spa.I changed my profile to short sentences with more information.I join in the forums and to my surprise when I met some of the people at the social and club they said they like the way I come across on the forums.My advice to you would be to add more to your profile and go to socials and clubs.Fabs works for me to a certain point as I can’t accommodate and I am 51 but for you who can accommodate and are early 30’s it can work for you to a further point but you need to put the work into your profile and be more humble on the forums as well as the socials and clubs If you choose to attend.Best of luck with Fabs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok yes I definitely will do that , I will work on my profile and really keep to my morals of being honest but funny, sexy and interesting. I consider myself as not just the normal type. I maybe try too hard to be interesting . I never message a girl with a one liner it’s just not me. I’ve got an amazing personality and I want it to stand out. I’m always told even if it’s a POF or tinder date that I’m sooooo much better in person . So I’ll try to portray more of me xxx"

Rather than obnoxiously state how amazing/handsome yadayadayada you are why not let people decide that for themselves? Regardless what you look like reading this post and your own replys to this thread are incredibly offputting and I personally find you anything but interesting/intelligent or handsome.

Don't have expectations and you won't be disappointed

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By *etite HandfulWoman  over a year ago

Chester


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude

Your definition of rude may be different to mine. There are comments from the op that I'd take as rude.

Which is why we are all different"

Some comments could be construed as rude others would say it's a lack of maturity and an inflated opinion of himself but women are accused of that all the time so you have to let that go as people are allowed to delude themselves if they want to. The reality is the OP is frustrated he wants a certain standard of meet and that's his choice but he is encountering difficulties others have choice too. You are right we are all different and that's a good thing it would be boring if we were all the same.

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By *ollydoesWoman  over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Like frank Sinatra said “ that’s life “ ????

Thought that was Ester Rantzen?"

Lmao

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, just because his wording doesn't fit right with some. How that person comes across on the forum, wouldn't stop me meeting them! I find that narrow minded.....

We all form opinions on folk based on interactions either first hand or otherwise.

The thread has given folk an opportunity to form an opinion of the op based on his posts and profile. Folk will have an opportunity to alter that opinion if he posts more or they have other interactions with him.

"

OR if they would care to meet him lol I'm sure he'll be fine at his social, as long as he doesn't mention this thread.... Haha!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like frank Sinatra said “ that’s life “ ????

Thought that was Ester Rantzen?"

A sense of humour helps too OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I completely agree yessss indeed. I was just mentioning abit about me and expressing how I feel I’m so naughty and pretty much have no limits so I just need help to get more connections with people I fantasise about on here??. Not good when I can’t get a reply of the person or people I totally crave that’s all, I just want to tell you about me and reiterate the fact I’m a good person xxxx????"

A good person doesn't need to bang on about what a good person they are they simple are a good person and that shines through in how the treat and respect other people.

Saying derogatory comments like old, hairy women etc is not the actions of someone who is respectful of others.

Your comments about wanting the hot woman you feel you deserve is vanity at its absolute worse, it's crass and representative of an shallow personality.

That's what people will judge you on not on how great you say you are buddy.

KJ x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This is a prime reason I rarely give suggestions on advice threads.

If you alter someones behaviour, advise give suggestions you can mask someones true self, you give them a cloak and makes it harder to figure out what they are.

This guy may be a really good guy he may, although I doubt a good guy would post the comments he has.

Op. There are countless threads in the archives offering advice. My suggestion read those and see if they help, they all say much the same.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, just because his wording doesn't fit right with some. How that person comes across on the forum, wouldn't stop me meeting them! I find that narrow minded.....

We all form opinions on folk based on interactions either first hand or otherwise.

The thread has given folk an opportunity to form an opinion of the op based on his posts and profile. Folk will have an opportunity to alter that opinion if he posts more or they have other interactions with him.

OR if they would care to meet him lol I'm sure he'll be fine at his social, as long as he doesn't mention this thread.... Haha! "

I know best keep my lips sealed in the future. It’s all come across so do not how I intended x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"There is a thin line between confident and arrogant, sorry to say that but for me you don't know where it is.

He's asking for opinions he hasn't been rude

Your definition of rude may be different to mine. There are comments from the op that I'd take as rude.

Which is why we are all different

Some comments could be construed as rude others would say it's a lack of maturity and an inflated opinion of himself but women are accused of that all the time so you have to let that go as people are allowed to delude themselves if they want to. The reality is the OP is frustrated he wants a certain standard of meet and that's his choice but he is encountering difficulties others have choice too. You are right we are all different and that's a good thing it would be boring if we were all the same. "

I feel that’s a really fair comment,

I feel like it’s all hot out of hand now and you have really simplified things. A few people have made their feelings clear etc and it’s really opened my eyes to how people can perceive one another. Xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I completely agree yessss indeed. I was just mentioning abit about me and expressing how I feel I’m so naughty and pretty much have no limits so I just need help to get more connections with people I fantasise about on here??. Not good when I can’t get a reply of the person or people I totally crave that’s all, I just want to tell you about me and reiterate the fact I’m a good person xxxx????

A good person doesn't need to bang on about what a good person they are they simple are a good person and that shines through in how the treat and respect other people.

Saying derogatory comments like old, hairy women etc is not the actions of someone who is respectful of others.

Your comments about wanting the hot woman you feel you deserve is vanity at its absolute worse, it's crass and representative of an shallow personality.

That's what people will judge you on not on how great you say you are buddy.

KJ x "

Ok point taken indeed x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just be yourself and dont try too hard.Remember all the lasses and cpls on here get 5 million dick pics and such amazing chat up lines like "how are you" "fancy a fuck" " are you free now".....dont take yourself too seriously and think a little outside the box to stand out from the crowd.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just be yourself and dont try too hard.Remember all the lasses and cpls on here get 5 million dick pics and such amazing chat up lines like "how are you" "fancy a fuck" " are you free now".....dont take yourself too seriously and think a little outside the box to stand out from the crowd."

That’s perfect advice. That’s what I want not just to be the average person and definitely stand out from the crowd. Thanks for your advice it’s really endearing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I completely agree yessss indeed. I was just mentioning abit about me and expressing how I feel I’m so naughty and pretty much have no limits so I just need help to get more connections with people I fantasise about on here??. Not good when I can’t get a reply of the person or people I totally crave that’s all, I just want to tell you about me and reiterate the fact I’m a good person xxxx????

A good person doesn't need to bang on about what a good person they are they simple are a good person and that shines through in how the treat and respect other people.

Saying derogatory comments like old, hairy women etc is not the actions of someone who is respectful of others.

Your comments about wanting the hot woman you feel you deserve is vanity at its absolute worse, it's crass and representative of an shallow personality.

That's what people will judge you on not on how great you say you are buddy.

KJ x

Ok point taken indeed x"

Fair play for taking the points on board.

If you feel your personality is one of your assets then I would get yourself to a swingers club so you can interact with people face to face that will open up many doors for you.

KJ

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *hunky GentMan  over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

If it make the OP feel any better - I'm a fat ugly bloke who's not had any luck either. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If it make the OP feel any better - I'm a fat ugly bloke who's not had any luck either. Lol"
you have a verification lol

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By *rGenuineMan  over a year ago

Purley

Sorry you always get called cute and handsome? Really? Where are you, Ireland?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am in the same situation so I fuck watermelon during my free time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

im so so handsome i break hearts not mirrors and i cant get a date with the most fabbed pics woman

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By *rGenuineMan  over a year ago

Purley

Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded."

lol you just got up? wall side?

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By *rGenuineMan  over a year ago

Purley

West side.

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By *ollycouple71Couple  over a year ago

manchester


"I am in the same situation so I fuck watermelon during my free time "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No offence OP but you must be a lot more modest. You are doing yourself no favours with bigging up what you think are your outstanding physical and personality attributes as they may not be quite the level you are promoting. No one likes ego, even if the person is stunning. I certainly don’t like it

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By *rGenuineMan  over a year ago

Purley

Totally agree, and not just the males either.

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By *uxom redCouple  over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded."

The last word of your post is not a pleasant one and imo very out dated.

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By *rGenuineMan  over a year ago

Purley

Apologies.

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By *impleSailorMan  over a year ago

the moon

Whoa there OP.

A: patience, you haven't been here that long.

B:Yes a lot of women get hounded by a lot more men so they are allowed to be somewhat selective.

C: Have a look at other male profiles, get a feel for what others are writing and then perhaps update yours.

And just as a side note, blowing your own trumpet (pardon the pun) isn't really something that is encouraged.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Your profile and this thread obviously reflects you OP. Leave it as it is."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just be yourself and dont try too hard.Remember all the lasses and cpls on here get 5 million dick pics and such amazing chat up lines like "how are you" "fancy a fuck" " are you free now".....dont take yourself too seriously and think a little outside the box to stand out from the crowd."

“Is how to be successful on FAG” available as an Open University course?

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By *esparate danMan  over a year ago

glasgow

Has this geezer accepted hes a chump yet or what

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By *ogNMuseCouple  over a year ago

Surrey


"Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded."

Blaming others for a lack of success is just as bad - if anything it should make it easier for the ‘decent guys’

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By *rGenuineMan  over a year ago

Purley


"Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded.

Blaming others for a lack of success is just as bad - if anything it should make it easier for the ‘decent guys’"

I do just fine thank you. And coming from you two of all people! So ironic. Thank god I saw through you both.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded.

Blaming others for a lack of success is just as bad - if anything it should make it easier for the ‘decent guys’

I do just fine thank you. And coming from you two of all people! So ironic. Thank god I saw through you both."

Jerry ! Jerry! Jerry!

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Two threads in this section already tonight from unattractive idiots who can’t spell, aren’t verified, have no charisma and are arrogant and deluded.

And the decent guys suffer because some couples assume we’re all retarded.

Blaming others for a lack of success is just as bad - if anything it should make it easier for the ‘decent guys’"

I agree. The more drones and dross, the easier it is to be noticed. One can’t blame others for ones perceived lack of success on here. Fab provides the tools, it’s up to the person to use them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All I see is Lesley ash or Pete burns

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