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"we find it funny when stright men have Verifications from guys on there profiles think its make your mind up time guys stright or bi " some straight guys go shagging on bigger meets togethr..and yes amazingly some of them havent sucked cock or been fucked up the arse. I have verifcations from guys. I NETWORK I have NO bi-curious needs or desires. amaing if thats what people thik some verifications are. Oh, yeah and met nice guys in socials,nice TV/TS,nice couples...I havent shagged them all...especially the ones with cocks or transgendered pussys | |||
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" Oh, yeah and met nice guys in socials,nice TV/TS,nice couples...I havent shagged them all...especially the ones with cocks or transgendered pussys" oh now thats very interesting, got me thinking now If you met a woman and got on well, found her attractive, nice person etc but then found out she used to be a guy would that really put you off playing? if shes had the full op and now had the body of a woman? | |||
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" Oh, yeah and met nice guys in socials,nice TV/TS,nice couples...I havent shagged them all...especially the ones with cocks or transgendered pussys oh now thats very interesting, got me thinking now If you met a woman and got on well, found her attractive, nice person etc but then found out she used to be a guy would that really put you off playing? if shes had the full op and now had the body of a woman? " itd put me off, yes...but possibly not forever...I'd have to get to know them before any sex happened..I often point out, look at carolne Cossey from the james bond films.utterly gorgeous, I cant see anything 'male' about her.She is a woman,born as a boy.Probably has an amazing desina vagina thatd shame other 'real' women lol | |||
"A BJ is a BJ, from a man or a women. Dressed as a women, bent over, a woman's ass is the same as a mans. Plus if they don't do any bi/gay stuff, they are still straight... I guess." Haa-haa-haa………pmsl.……so are your saying, a man who fucks another mans arse is straight if the man being fucked is wearing female clothes…… Based on a logic that the man doing the fucking is not doing gay or bi stuff !!! OMG.... I've almost leaked laughing ... | |||
"A BJ is a BJ, from a man or a women. Dressed as a women, bent over, a woman's ass is the same as a mans. Plus if they don't do any bi/gay stuff, they are still straight... I guess. Haa-haa-haa………pmsl.……so are your saying, a man who fucks another mans arse is straight if the man being fucked is wearing female clothes…… Based on a logic that the man doing the fucking is not doing gay or bi stuff !!! OMG.... I've almost leaked laughing ... "a holes hole to some lol | |||
"A BJ is a BJ, from a man or a women. Dressed as a women, bent over, a woman's ass is the same as a mans. Plus if they don't do any bi/gay stuff, they are still straight... I guess. Haa-haa-haa………pmsl.……so are your saying, a man who fucks another mans arse is straight if the man being fucked is wearing female clothes…… Based on a logic that the man doing the fucking is not doing gay or bi stuff !!! OMG.... I've almost leaked laughing ... "You did spot the I guess... Peoples expectations change after a while if they get no meets. As another poster mention any holes a goal, if they don't have to do anything for it... I'm sure you know there are plenty who see the BI/TV bit and ask if they can meet for you to give them a BJ nothing in return...  | |||
" Based on a logic that the man doing the fucking is not doing gay or bi stuff !!! "Maybe men who like anal with women are really gay/bi too  | |||
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"A BJ is a BJ, from a man or a women. Dressed as a women, bent over, a woman's ass is the same as a mans. Plus if they don't do any bi/gay stuff, they are still straight... I guess. Haa-haa-haa………pmsl.……so are your saying, a man who fucks another mans arse is straight if the man being fucked is wearing female clothes…… Based on a logic that the man doing the fucking is not doing gay or bi stuff !!! OMG.... I've almost leaked laughing ...
You did spot the I guess...
Peoples expectations change after a while if they get no meets.
As another poster mention any holes a goal, if they don't have to do anything for it... I'm sure you know there are plenty who see the BI/TV bit and ask if they can meet for you to give them a BJ nothing in return... "i'd rather have a wank lol | |||
"A BJ is a BJ, from a man or a women. Dressed as a women, bent over, a woman's ass is the same as a mans. Plus if they don't do any bi/gay stuff, they are still straight... I guess. Haa-haa-haa………pmsl.……so are your saying, a man who fucks another mans arse is straight if the man being fucked is wearing female clothes…… Based on a logic that the man doing the fucking is not doing gay or bi stuff !!! OMG.... I've almost leaked laughing ...
You did spot the I guess...
Peoples expectations change after a while if they get no meets.
As another poster mention any holes a goal, if they don't have to do anything for it... I'm sure you know there are plenty who see the BI/TV bit and ask if they can meet for you to give them a BJ nothing in return...
i'd rather have a wank lol"haha,,,, Me too !...... If ever I get so desperate for sex my best option becomes simply grasping any opportunity to give random blokes one-sided oral relief.... That’ll be the day I turn straight!!!!! lol ...  | |||
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"Labels debates like this are notoriously thorny on the Trans websites. I think it is down to interpretation. The last serious scientific study I read into the subject of our sexuality showed that there are very very very few genuinely bisexual people, if you define that as the gender you find sexually attractive. Although our gender is determined by the chromosomes in the sperm that fertilises the egg, it seems as though whether we are gay or straight depends largely on the hormones, particularly testosterone, transmitted to us by our mothers when we are in the womb, allied to the way our brain is wired. Think of it as rainfall on a landscape. For men, too little rainfall (perhaps it was interrupted), or if it all pools in the wrong area of the brain, will be attracted to men, not women. For women it would be too much. This is rarer, hence fewer lesbians than gay men, as it is easier to have a flow of hormones cut off rather than an abnormally large dose. The best research shows that people are either physically attracted to women or men, not both. What they found was by hooking up men and women to various monitors they could see how they were stimulated by different images. They did this for men and women, gay, straight and bi (or so they claimed). They were careful in the images they showed. For instance, to find out if a man was attracted to men or women it is no good showing a heterosexual couple having sex, as the man could be stimulated by the man, not the woman, or simply by the sex. What they found was that about 6% of men are attracted to men only. Less than 3% of women are attracted to women only. Less than 1/2% of people genuinely found both sexes attractive. Yet we know that far more than 1/2% of people have sex with both genders. So why the discrepancy? What they found was that there are other factors, mainly simply a high sex drive, that overrides that preference. Another factor can just be trying something different to overcome boredom. It could be self preservation, such as happens in prison. It could be for money. It could be the danger/forbidden element. It could be a romantic situation. It could be the thrill that someone - anyone - is attracted to you. It could be someones personality. It could be a fetish. A man with a rubber fetish might prefer women but he'd have sex with a man in rubber ahead of a naked woman. Lets face it, on here, everyone falls somewhere on the nymphomania scale, though most fall well short of the clinical definition. What then happens is that people try it and a neural pathway is formed. It is then a path that is easier to tread. A number of pleasant experiences and this can be so reinforced that people can genuinely change their sexual preference. The reverse is also true. Many prostitutes go off men altogether. So, to answer the opening question, I think most men who describe themselves as straight but meet TV's are men who were born physically attracted to how females look, as most men are, but who want some different stimulation, whether that is because they are bored, curious or find the naughty/forbidden aspect of trans people overrides the knowledge that it is a male underneath the clothes, who can say. Of course, if you define bisexuality as who you'll have sex with rather than who you find attractive then none of these guys are straight. Personally I like it when a guy approaches me who says he is straight as it is a validation. Someone saying they like men and then say they fancy me may get a smack in the gob. At the end of the day though we are all wonderfully unique in what makes us tick and the world is more interesting for it." That is indeed a very interesting insight,,, However until the day science manages to come up with an irrefutable method to identify a persons in-built sexuality, coupled to a system whereby all humans are implanted with some kind of alarm-chip type thingy, which sends out a warning "BLEEP---BLEEP---BLEEP" should that person attempt sex with anyone out-with their compatibility grouping ……. I’ll continue to stick with the tried and trusted method which determines a persons sexuality by whom they physically have sex with……. PS,,,,,Oh, by the way,,,, the alarm sound doesn't have to be BLEEP based,,,,,,it could go Whooahar-whooahar-whooahar.... or even ting-ting-ting ! | |||
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"Okay - I totally get that people who are essentially straight - women as well as men - can enjoy some bi play - but surely then, that makes them either bi-curious or - a term I quite like - bi-playful. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with bi play - simply that guys should be more honest about themselves on their profiles. You see, I would rather not play with a guy who is bi - it says so on my profile - and I know that this could open up a whole new can of worms - but this is my preference - we all have them - so if a guy contacts me who describes himself as straight I don't expect to see TV/TSs on his list of WHO HE WANTS TO MEET - and yes - I have tried asking about it on occasion - but I think the replies are only what they think I want to hear - either that or they get all arsey with me for having queried it!! As has been mentioned by other posters - I think it is mostly a question of the guys actually being honest with themselves about themselves - after all - surely a guy who plays with another guy is at least to some degree bi or bi-curious - he's just scared what other people will say - like your average homophobic guy!! Come on guys - it's time to man up and be honest about who you are - after all - this is a site where many different people have many and varied tastes - no-one is going to judge you for who/what you like - only for your honesty/dishonesty about it. As a footnote: I do not assume that all verifications are for sexual encounters (social verifications are just as valid) unless they are written as if they are "thanks, time to unhide all my paddys a marvelous cocksucker veries | |||
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"Like an earlier view stated: It's time for people to be honest with themselves. " Well said that man!! | |||
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"Labels debates like this are notoriously thorny on the Trans websites. I think it is down to interpretation. The last serious scientific study I read into the subject of our sexuality showed that there are very very very few genuinely bisexual people, if you define that as the gender you find sexually attractive. Although our gender is determined by the chromosomes in the sperm that fertilises the egg, it seems as though whether we are gay or straight depends largely on the hormones, particularly testosterone, transmitted to us by our mothers when we are in the womb, allied to the way our brain is wired. Think of it as rainfall on a landscape. For men, too little rainfall (perhaps it was interrupted), or if it all pools in the wrong area of the brain, will be attracted to men, not women. For women it would be too much. This is rarer, hence fewer lesbians than gay men, as it is easier to have a flow of hormones cut off rather than an abnormally large dose. The best research shows that people are either physically attracted to women or men, not both. What they found was by hooking up men and women to various monitors they could see how they were stimulated by different images. They did this for men and women, gay, straight and bi (or so they claimed). They were careful in the images they showed. For instance, to find out if a man was attracted to men or women it is no good showing a heterosexual couple having sex, as the man could be stimulated by the man, not the woman, or simply by the sex. What they found was that about 6% of men are attracted to men only. Less than 3% of women are attracted to women only. Less than 1/2% of people genuinely found both sexes attractive. Yet we know that far more than 1/2% of people have sex with both genders. So why the discrepancy? What they found was that there are other factors, mainly simply a high sex drive, that overrides that preference. Another factor can just be trying something different to overcome boredom. It could be self preservation, such as happens in prison. It could be for money. It could be the danger/forbidden element. It could be a romantic situation. It could be the thrill that someone - anyone - is attracted to you. It could be someones personality. It could be a fetish. A man with a rubber fetish might prefer women but he'd have sex with a man in rubber ahead of a naked woman. Lets face it, on here, everyone falls somewhere on the nymphomania scale, though most fall well short of the clinical definition. What then happens is that people try it and a neural pathway is formed. It is then a path that is easier to tread. A number of pleasant experiences and this can be so reinforced that people can genuinely change their sexual preference. The reverse is also true. Many prostitutes go off men altogether. So, to answer the opening question, I think most men who describe themselves as straight but meet TV's are men who were born physically attracted to how females look, as most men are, but who want some different stimulation, whether that is because they are bored, curious or find the naughty/forbidden aspect of trans people overrides the knowledge that it is a male underneath the clothes, who can say. Of course, if you define bisexuality as who you'll have sex with rather than who you find attractive then none of these guys are straight. Personally I like it when a guy approaches me who says he is straight as it is a validation. Someone saying they like men and then say they fancy me may get a smack in the gob. At the end of the day though we are all wonderfully unique in what makes us tick and the world is more interesting for it." I know you took a long time to type that, but hormonal determinism as THE cause of people being gay, bi or straight is a heap of bollocks, frankly. At best it's one component of a whole network of causes. There's a link between this thread and some of the worst of the research on the 'causes' of sexuality. Simply put, because our society is homophobic, many men do not declare their homosexual experiences. So that wank with your mates at camp is just a teenage thing, or that blowjob in an adult cinema is just an aberration. One of the awkward side effects of identity politics is it obscures the reality of the broad spectrum of sexual experience - so you have men who have sex with men denying they are gay because they don't identify with gayness as defined by the 'gay' community.... | |||
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"A BJ is a BJ, from a man or a women. Dressed as a women, bent over, a woman's ass is the same as a mans. Plus if they don't do any bi/gay stuff, they are still straight... I guess." only if the ass has been shaved lol my ass in particular bent over in undies still looks like a blokes ass | |||
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"I don't fancy women in the slightest.... I am straight. Yet in the right situation I am happy for a woman to go down on me, to play with me, to fuck me with a strap-on... in the right situation gender is irrelevant to me... in fact in some sitiuations I don't give a shit who it is or what they look like, it's all about the physical sensation and the mental buzz of the situation. If anyone wants to tell me I am not honest with myself about my sexuality.......... they can fuck off! " Wellllll.......if I let another guy go down on me, play with me or do me up the arse, I'd say I was bi, whether either of us wore a frock or not. But it would never happen because I'm straight, as stated on our profile.....no matter what the situation or how hot the moment.....it makes no odds. So Polo......your not being honest with yourself about your sexuality! .........There......said it.....I'm outa here!!!!! R
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