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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The word ‘professional’, is used in many profiles.
It had me thinking....professional at what?
Swinging? Shagging? Sucking?
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Eurgh 1 word i hate to see on here. Instant put off. |
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This comes up every couple of days in the forums. Usually there are arguments about it. To sum up the arguments it goes as follows
Argument 1: The Professional: we’re a nice middle class couple/single with a good lifestyle. We’d rather like to meet someone similar who we have something in common with before we have sex with them.
Argument 2 : The Non-Professional: I don’t care what you do or what you’re like. It’s only fucking and anyone who thinks otherwise is a snobby cunt.
We might have missed some subtlety in our description . |
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over a year ago
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"The word ‘professional’, is used in many profiles.
It had me thinking....professional at what?
Swinging? Shagging? Sucking?
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I had one today saying “professional genuine male” I didn’t even know that was a profession |
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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago
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To me a professional is someone who requires certain qualifications to be able to do their job i.e. Doctors, Solicitors, Barristers, chartered accountants and so on
But most people seem to use it for any job that doesn’t involve manual labour.
Bit like those who work in “The City” serving coffee in Threadneedle St Starbucks |
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Our interpretation is you work for a living, don't rely on benefits and don't smoke pot all day. Before anyone starts, yes, we know some don't have any option but to rely on benefits, fully respect that. Got fuck all to do with the car you drive, how many bedrooms you have or your qualifications. Let's face it, we all know what it means. |
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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago
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"The word ‘professional’, is used in many profiles.
It had me thinking....professional at what?
Swinging? Shagging? Sucking?
I had one today saying “professional genuine male” I didn’t even know that was a profession "
Wife had similar on her profile - she told him she found most men on are quite amateur (in jest) |
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Language evolves over time. Hence we have professional athletes to distinguish them from amateurs.
The use of the p word seems to annoy a lot of people to the extent that they can be quite nasty about people who have it on their profile. It beats me why. |
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"The word ‘professional’, is used in many profiles.
It had me thinking....professional at what?
Swinging? Shagging? Sucking?
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We're not profeshional swingers / shaggers or suckers. We've never been paid for any fun we've had on our swinging adventures.
We are both " professional" for work as we both have skilled jobs. Not every Tom, Dick or Harry could do our work. |
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"This comes up every couple of days in the forums. Usually there are arguments about it. To sum up the arguments it goes as follows
Argument 1: The Professional: we’re a nice middle class couple/single with a good lifestyle. We’d rather like to meet someone similar who we have something in common with before we have sex with them.
Argument 2 : The Non-Professional: I don’t care what you do or what you’re like. It’s only fucking and anyone who thinks otherwise is a snobby cunt.
We might have missed some subtlety in our description . "
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Ok, let's put it another way.
Option 1 He is a painter and decorator, she is a shop worker.
Option 2 He is a company director, she is a pharmaceutical dispenser.
Is there a difference? There apparently is when it comes to getting life/car/house/health insurance. |
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By *alton2Couple
over a year ago
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Professional should mean that their job is one in which they are expected to place the interests of their clients above those of themselves and that to be permitted to do that job they must be a member of a professional organisation, from which they can be expelled if their behavior was seen as likely to lower the esteem in which other members of the organisation are held by non-members.
(Eg Doctors, solicitors, nurses)
They are potentially at risk of losing their job for being involved in an activity which has no direct bearing on their ability to perform their job.
The term is often misused by implying that some special skill is needed or that a job is undertaken for pay, rather than on an amateur basis.
Understandably, some may be concerned about their risk when what should be their private lives can have a devastating affect on their working life.
It's an interesting,emotional and complex discussion. |
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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago
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"Ok, let's put it another way.
Option 1 He is a painter and decorator, she is a shop worker.
Option 2 He is a company director, she is a pharmaceutical dispenser.
Is there a difference? There apparently is when it comes to getting life/car/house/health insurance. "
Anyone can become a company director; I am, my wife is, all it means is we run/own LTD companies - no “professional” qualifications needed |
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over a year ago
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"Here we go! Again! "
Yep, I know. I really don’t get why people get so irked by it. Most of my friends In London are ‘professionals’ as well as some family members. You get used to that term in London. I know exactly what they mean when it’s used. |
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"Ok, let's put it another way.
Option 1 He is a painter and decorator, she is a shop worker.
Option 2 He is a company director, she is a pharmaceutical dispenser.
Is there a difference? There apparently is when it comes to getting life/car/house/health insurance.
Anyone can become a company director; I am, my wife is, all it means is we run/own LTD companies - no “professional” qualifications needed "
Exactly, if you introduced yourselves as company directors would people not judge you differently? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Language evolves over time. Hence we have professional athletes to distinguish them from amateurs.
The use of the p word seems to annoy a lot of people to the extent that they can be quite nasty about people who have it on their profile. It beats me why. "
Envy, that’s what it is. You never see ‘professional’ people on here moaning about non ‘professional’ people. It really baffles me why people would be bothered. |
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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago
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"Ok, let's put it another way.
Option 1 He is a painter and decorator, she is a shop worker.
Option 2 He is a company director, she is a pharmaceutical dispenser.
Is there a difference? There apparently is when it comes to getting life/car/house/health insurance.
Anyone can become a company director; I am, my wife is, all it means is we run/own LTD companies - no “professional” qualifications needed
Exactly, if you introduced yourselves as company directors would people not judge you differently?"
No, because we both simply say we work for ourselves, I feel a pretentious prick saying I’m a company director, as I only am one because it’s the most tax efficient way to run my business, ditto for my wife |
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"Ok, let's put it another way.
Option 1 He is a painter and decorator, she is a shop worker.
Option 2 He is a company director, she is a pharmaceutical dispenser.
Is there a difference? There apparently is when it comes to getting life/car/house/health insurance.
Anyone can become a company director; I am, my wife is, all it means is we run/own LTD companies - no “professional” qualifications needed
Exactly, if you introduced yourselves as company directors would people not judge you differently?
No, because we both simply say we work for ourselves, I feel a pretentious prick saying I’m a company director, as I only am one because it’s the most tax efficient way to run my business, ditto for my wife"
I also feel pretentious about the whole professional thing if I'm honest.
Company I'm working for at the minute it is policy to include in your email signature all professional titles/letters after your name.
I don't, I hate it. Get nudged about it regularly but refuse to do it.
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"Ok, let's put it another way.
Option 1 He is a painter and decorator, she is a shop worker.
Option 2 He is a company director, she is a pharmaceutical dispenser.
Is there a difference? There apparently is when it comes to getting life/car/house/health insurance.
Anyone can become a company director; I am, my wife is, all it means is we run/own LTD companies - no “professional” qualifications needed
Exactly, if you introduced yourselves as company directors would people not judge you differently?
No, because we both simply say we work for ourselves, I feel a pretentious prick saying I’m a company director, as I only am one because it’s the most tax efficient way to run my business, ditto for my wife"
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I also feel pretentious about the whole professional thing if I'm honest.
Company I'm working for at the minute it is policy to include in your email signature all professional titles/letters after your name.
I don't, I hate it. Get nudged about it regularly but refuse to do it.
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Do you work for Jacob Rees-Mogg? |
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over a year ago
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"The British seem to hate anything that indicates success, I've never understood it "
I don't see it like that. I'm a modest guy, I dont go around shouting about my success or achievements in my field of work, other than when I am actively seeking work. Then yes my professional recognition is put out there as it helps with getting the jobs I want.
In the workplace it just become a a Willy waving contest, I've got a better degree than you, or more degrees than you. My professional status with said institution is higher than yours. This goes on a lot and I really can't stand it.
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"The British seem to hate anything that indicates success, I've never understood it
I don't see it like that. I'm a modest guy, I dont go around shouting about my success or achievements in my field of work, other than when I am actively seeking work. Then yes my professional recognition is put out there as it helps with getting the jobs I want.
In the workplace it just become a a Willy waving contest, I've got a better degree than you, or more degrees than you. My professional status with said institution is higher than yours. This goes on a lot and I really can't stand it.
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it was more a general observation. We as a nati9on seem to find it difficult to celebrate successful people and try our best to knock them down. I don't understand it
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The British seem to hate anything that indicates success, I've never understood it
I don't see it like that. I'm a modest guy, I dont go around shouting about my success or achievements in my field of work, other than when I am actively seeking work. Then yes my professional recognition is put out there as it helps with getting the jobs I want.
In the workplace it just become a a Willy waving contest, I've got a better degree than you, or more degrees than you. My professional status with said institution is higher than yours. This goes on a lot and I really can't stand it.
it was more a general observation. We as a nati9on seem to find it difficult to celebrate successful people and try our best to knock them down. I don't understand it
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Ah ok,I see now.
I do see this particularly with sports people. When they win there's always people saying it wasn't a real win as so and so wasn't competing or they have a better car that's the reason they win.
Rather than just celebrating the win they always have to find a negative in it.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s always been a bit of a bug bear on fab the use of the word “Professional” and how it’s used
Sometimes when it’s included in profiles that include other phrases like “picky” “high standards” “only the best need apply” “we are hot” etc etc it just shows these people are really up there own arses!
Other times, some people negatively commenting on the term “professional” are just inverted snobs and they just get the hump over someone not up there own arse using the word.
Just for clarity, one of us is Cambridge university educated, one of us left school after GCSE’s both in managerial roles but we don’t use the term professional couple..... |
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"The British seem to hate anything that indicates success, I've never understood it
I truly don't understand why there seems to be a culture of putting people down, its rife on fab "
Agreed. I’ve noticed that. It happens a lot. |
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over a year ago
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Professional what though? And why would it matter if you’re not professional?
I’m a carer and hubby is an hgv driver ...we are both professional at our jobs...but wouldn’t class ourselves as “professionals”
We’ll leave that to bodie and Doyle |
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"Professional what though? And why would it matter if you’re not professional?
I’m a carer and hubby is an hgv driver ...we are both professional at our jobs...but wouldn’t class ourselves as “professionals”
We’ll leave that to bodie and Doyle " Nope, you are Blue Collar, no your place |
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Am I mistaken thinking it refers to, professional swingers rather then professional occupation (job).
But yes that word in profile put me off, on the other hand it's someone's profile, they can write what they want.
Just move on from profile with that word in it.
Easy as that |
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For us professional is used to present an image, which may or may not be true. We imagine they are :
In a profession which requires a high level of education
Are respectful and well mannered
Look after themselves with diet and exercise
Dress well but classy/understated on meets
Drink and eat in moderation
Don’t smoke
Are well travelled with interesting conversation
They also want to meet similar people and that’s why they use the term.
A bit like saying ‘gym fit’ which generally means they’re also looking for other people who are not obese.
In our experience we’d class George Clooney as looking and acting like a professional and Gazza as perhaps someone who’s not a professional, though he was a professional footballer. There’s a spectrum in between
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"I’ve got city&guilds and advanced craft so can I put professional in my profile No you can't you are merely Blue Collar only" I’ve never owned a blue collar but I know what you mean but I suppose I could class my self as a professional as I can fit you a kitchen to a top standard as opposed to Dave from the pub |
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"This comes up every couple of days in the forums. Usually there are arguments about it. To sum up the arguments it goes as follows
Argument 1: The Professional: we’re a nice middle class couple/single with a good lifestyle. We’d rather like to meet someone similar who we have something in common with before we have sex with them.
Argument 2 : The Non-Professional: I don’t care what you do or what you’re like. It’s only fucking and anyone who thinks otherwise is a snobby cunt.
We might have missed some subtlety in our description . "
Exactly |
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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago
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"Professional what though? And why would it matter if you’re not professional?
I’m a carer and hubby is an hgv driver ...we are both professional at our jobs...but wouldn’t class ourselves as “professionals”
We’ll leave that to bodie and Doyle "
If you were going into hospital for an operation you'd pray to god your surgeon had professional qualifications, or if you were getting divorced your lawyer was professionally qualified. |
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"I’ve got city&guilds and advanced craft so can I put professional in my profile No you can't you are merely Blue Collar only I’ve never owned a blue collar but I know what you mean but I suppose I could class my self as a professional as I can fit you a kitchen to a top standard as opposed to Dave from the pub "
It’s still not classed as a professional. Skilled worker yes. |
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"For us professional is used to present an image, which may or may not be true. We imagine they are :
In a profession which requires a high level of education
Are respectful and well mannered
Look after themselves with diet and exercise
Dress well but classy/understated on meets
Drink and eat in moderation
Don’t smoke
Are well travelled with interesting conversation
They also want to meet similar people and that’s why they use the term.
A bit like saying ‘gym fit’ which generally means they’re also looking for other people who are not obese.
In our experience we’d class George Clooney as looking and acting like a professional and Gazza as perhaps someone who’s not a professional, though he was a professional footballer. There’s a spectrum in between
Are you just describing working class, middle class?
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"For us professional is used to present an image, which may or may not be true. We imagine they are :
In a profession which requires a high level of education
Are respectful and well mannered
Look after themselves with diet and exercise
Dress well but classy/understated on meets
Drink and eat in moderation
Don’t smoke
Are well travelled with interesting conversation
They also want to meet similar people and that’s why they use the term.
A bit like saying ‘gym fit’ which generally means they’re also looking for other people who are not obese.
In our experience we’d class George Clooney as looking and acting like a professional and Gazza as perhaps someone who’s not a professional, though he was a professional footballer. There’s a spectrum in between
Are you just describing working class, middle class?
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You can still exhibit all those attributes even if you are from a working class background but you’re probably right in that professional is a metaphor for middle class. Is there anything wrong with that though? |
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"The word ‘professional’, is used in many profiles.
It had me thinking....professional at what?
Swinging? Shagging? Sucking?
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I thought on here it just meant I’ve got a job and I don’t claim benefits? |
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"Professional what though? And why would it matter if you’re not professional?
I’m a carer and hubby is an hgv driver ...we are both professional at our jobs...but wouldn’t class ourselves as “professionals”
We’ll leave that to bodie and Doyle
If you were going into hospital for an operation you'd pray to god your surgeon had professional qualifications, or if you were getting divorced your lawyer was professionally qualified. "
If you were entrusting 44 t of expensive cargo or hazardous chemicals to be driven from one end of the country to the other, would you not want someone with “professional” qualifications ..in fact, without those qualifications, it would be illegal..... |
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"Professional what though? And why would it matter if you’re not professional?
I’m a carer and hubby is an hgv driver ...we are both professional at our jobs...but wouldn’t class ourselves as “professionals”
We’ll leave that to bodie and Doyle Nope, you are Blue Collar, no your place"
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"For us professional is used to present an image, which may or may not be true. We imagine they are :
In a profession which requires a high level of education
Are respectful and well mannered
Look after themselves with diet and exercise
Dress well but classy/understated on meets
Drink and eat in moderation
Don’t smoke
Are well travelled with interesting conversation
They also want to meet similar people and that’s why they use the term.
A bit like saying ‘gym fit’ which generally means they’re also looking for other people who are not obese.
In our experience we’d class George Clooney as looking and acting like a professional and Gazza as perhaps someone who’s not a professional, though he was a professional footballer. There’s a spectrum in between
Are you just describing working class, middle class?
You can still exhibit all those attributes even if you are from a working class background but you’re probably right in that professional is a metaphor for middle class. Is there anything wrong with that though? "
See this is where I find it hard (Molly) Mike went to private school and had a very middle class upbringing, I came from a working class back ground. If people are saying that professional/middle class say that as they feel that they have more in common and to talk about with other middle-class people, then how are Mike and I are still together after nearly 22 years ? Yes there is jealousy out there but I still think people are people and if you want to talk to different people and get along you will, regardless of where you come from or what job you do or the clothes you wear.
Molly
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"For us professional is used to present an image, which may or may not be true. We imagine they are :
In a profession which requires a high level of education
Are respectful and well mannered
Look after themselves with diet and exercise
Dress well but classy/understated on meets
Drink and eat in moderation
Don’t smoke
Are well travelled with interesting conversation
They also want to meet similar people and that’s why they use the term.
A bit like saying ‘gym fit’ which generally means they’re also looking for other people who are not obese.
In our experience we’d class George Clooney as looking and acting like a professional and Gazza as perhaps someone who’s not a professional, though he was a professional footballer. There’s a spectrum in between
Are you just describing working class, middle class?
You can still exhibit all those attributes even if you are from a working class background but you’re probably right in that professional is a metaphor for middle class. Is there anything wrong with that though?
See this is where I find it hard (Molly) Mike went to private school and had a very middle class upbringing, I came from a working class back ground. If people are saying that professional/middle class say that as they feel that they have more in common and to talk about with other middle-class people, then how are Mike and I are still together after nearly 22 years ? Yes there is jealousy out there but I still think people are people and if you want to talk to different people and get along you will, regardless of where you come from or what job you do or the clothes you wear.
Molly
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It’s not about working or middle class and whether they can meet each other. We’re both from working class backgrounds but we’d be labelled as middle class now.
For us it’s about having something in common with the people we’re meeting. We like intelligent conversation with well mannered people who look after themselves physically. If someone labels themselves professional we think we’re more likely get that .
We got two message on our profile today from single guys. One was a nice respectful message from a slim guy in a suit who took the time to read our profile and who could spell. The other had the title ‘Gobble’ and said ‘Mrs has great tits. Bet she’s a deviant ‘. To us the first guy was probably professional and the second not so much. |
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"For us professional is used to present an image, which may or may not be true. We imagine they are :
In a profession which requires a high level of education
Are respectful and well mannered
Look after themselves with diet and exercise
Dress well but classy/understated on meets
Drink and eat in moderation
Don’t smoke
Are well travelled with interesting conversation
They also want to meet similar people and that’s why they use the term.
A bit like saying ‘gym fit’ which generally means they’re also looking for other people who are not obese.
In our experience we’d class George Clooney as looking and acting like a professional and Gazza as perhaps someone who’s not a professional, though he was a professional footballer. There’s a spectrum in between
Are you just describing working class, middle class?
You can still exhibit all those attributes even if you are from a working class background but you’re probably right in that professional is a metaphor for middle class. Is there anything wrong with that though?
See this is where I find it hard (Molly) Mike went to private school and had a very middle class upbringing, I came from a working class back ground. If people are saying that professional/middle class say that as they feel that they have more in common and to talk about with other middle-class people, then how are Mike and I are still together after nearly 22 years ? Yes there is jealousy out there but I still think people are people and if you want to talk to different people and get along you will, regardless of where you come from or what job you do or the clothes you wear.
Molly
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It’s not about working or middle class and whether they can meet each other. We’re both from working class backgrounds but we’d be labelled as middle class now.
For us it’s about having something in common with the people we’re meeting. We like intelligent conversation with well mannered people who look after themselves physically. If someone labels themselves professional we think we’re more likely get that .
We got two message on our profile today from single guys. One was a nice respectful message from a slim guy in a suit who took the time to read our profile and who could spell. The other had the title ‘Gobble’ and said ‘Mrs has great tits. Bet she’s a deviant ‘. To us the first guy was probably professional and the second not so much. "
The second not so much... |
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"The use of the word 'intelligent' makes me cringe.
Why?"
Because intelligent people shouldn't have to shout it out to the world, that, in my opinion, shows the opposite of intelligence. |
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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago
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Every profile on Fab is an advertisement for what's on offer, and like every advertisement it is designed to appeal to certain type of "customer". Consequently it contains the words and photographs to attract those customers. If one of the words is "professional" and it upsets you so much then you probably aren't what the profile owner is looking for, so move on to another profile, there are plenty of others to look at. Why is there any need for all the vitriol, sarcasm and inverted snobbery? We see plenty of profiles that we don't like, and some that disgust us, but it simply means that they aren't for us, and probably we aren't for them. Why get shitty about it? |
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"Every profile on Fab is an advertisement for what's on offer, and like every advertisement it is designed to appeal to certain type of "customer". Consequently it contains the words and photographs to attract those customers. If one of the words is "professional" and it upsets you so much then you probably aren't what the profile owner is looking for, so move on to another profile, there are plenty of others to look at. Why is there any need for all the vitriol, sarcasm and inverted snobbery? We see plenty of profiles that we don't like, and some that disgust us, but it simply means that they aren't for us, and probably we aren't for them. Why get shitty about it?"
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"This comes up every couple of days in the forums. Usually there are arguments about it. To sum up the arguments it goes as follows
Argument 1: The Professional: we’re a nice middle class couple/single with a good lifestyle. We’d rather like to meet someone similar who we have something in common with before we have sex with them.
Argument 2 : The Non-Professional: I don’t care what you do or what you’re like. It’s only fucking and anyone who thinks otherwise is a snobby cunt.
We might have missed some subtlety in our description .
Precise "
Very . Almost professional in the description |
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"Every profile on Fab is an advertisement for what's on offer, and like every advertisement it is designed to appeal to certain type of "customer". Consequently it contains the words and photographs to attract those customers. If one of the words is "professional" and it upsets you so much then you probably aren't what the profile owner is looking for, so move on to another profile, there are plenty of others to look at. Why is there any need for all the vitriol, sarcasm and inverted snobbery? We see plenty of profiles that we don't like, and some that disgust us, but it simply means that they aren't for us, and probably we aren't for them. Why get shitty about it?"
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