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The Moralistic High ground

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

no i think its just because alot are in loving couples that do this to add to their sex life, and when they are like this obviousily they dont like the idea of people who do it to get their leg over behind their unknowning partners back.

not that much of a moral high ground really. i guess people like that the last thing they want is to be part of that deception.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

dont think anyone on here is guilty of taking a moral highground, imo, its just about having different standards.

some are lower, and others wish to try to make people regain ome self respect by pointing it out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future. "

Now thats deep but very true.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"dont think anyone on here is guilty of taking a moral highground, imo, its just about having different standards.

some are lower, and others wish to try to make people regain ome self respect by pointing it out."

I tend to watch rather than get involved but isn't having different standards another way of taking the moral hi ground. After all if you think you have higher standards than others aren't you in some respect saying others have standards far lower than yourself?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

There is no need to capitalise but no you shouldn't feel you have to justify your choice. However if you pontificate and judge others then you have to accept people will question why and what grounds you feel you have the right to judge on.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"dont think anyone on here is guilty of taking a moral highground, imo, its just about having different standards.

some are lower, and others wish to try to make people regain ome self respect by pointing it out.

i offer no reference to the distance between my standards and other, for they may have higher in other areas than myself.

guessing you are coming straight from the other thread still in an argumentative mood, lol.

ok, morals as far as a relationship are concerned, and being in the position of the OP's OH, then i would say OP is wrong for what he is doing.

nothing about having a moral highground and everything to do with almost being destroyed as a person by being maried to a woman that couldnt keep cock out of her cunt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"dont think anyone on here is guilty of taking a moral highground, imo, its just about having different standards.

some are lower, and others wish to try to make people regain ome self respect by pointing it out.

YES!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"dont think anyone on here is guilty of taking a moral highground, imo, its just about having different standards.

some are lower, and others wish to try to make people regain ome self respect by pointing it out.

YES!!"

Lol well honesty is always refreshing. In reality we are all different and have different standards but it doesn't make one better than another.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you."

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

who*

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

Not at all i was asking a question if you care to read the tread from my first post then you will see I was asking if people relish in judging others. You obviously do as you made the judgement it was hellbent on having a little squabble which is far from the truth.

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

And you ask if i can read??

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights."

Cool, I see it rather than a genuine question, it being a pop at the posters from the other thread.

again, that is my opinion and may differ from yours.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cool, I see it rather than a genuine question, it being a pop at the posters from the other thread.

again, that is my opinion and may differ from yours.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights.

Cool, I see it rather than a genuine question, it being a pop at the posters from the other thread.

again, that is my opinion and may differ from yours.

Smoke mirrors and manipulation do i see?

Actually it has nothing to do with other threads it was a general question as swingers in general are maligned and judged in a negative way by society in general to the point 90% plus of swingers including you and I do not show our faces on this site to all. The reason we do this is we do not want to be recognised by the general public and ultimately be judged by them for being on a swingers site.

I find it strange then that swingers will then at times take a moral high ground with other groups or individuals and judge them on things they do. I was looking for some insite into why people feel the need to do so, if they took some please from judging and ultimately do they think they should be judged by other groups.

I avoided capitalising any part of it as capitalization is widely regarded as shouting and something you avoid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am often accused of taking the moralistic high ground as I do not agree with married or attached people playing away without their partners knowledge and approval.

I make it clear on my profile I only meet single men but married or attached men choose to ignore this and contact me so I tell them why I will not meet them.

I dont beleive this is me taking a moralist high ground just me living by my morals

What others perceive is their business and if they choose to contact me then they should welcome my _iews (again as stated in my profile)

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights.

Cool, I see it rather than a genuine question, it being a pop at the posters from the other thread.

again, that is my opinion and may differ from yours.

Smoke mirrors and manipulation do i see?

I avoided capitalising any part of it as capitalization is widely regarded as shouting and something you avoid."

cool.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I am often accused of taking the moralistic high ground as I do not agree with married or attached people playing away without their partners knowledge and approval.

I make it clear on my profile I only meet single men but married or attached men choose to ignore this and contact me so I tell them why I will not meet them.

I dont beleive this is me taking a moralist high ground just me living by my morals

What others perceive is their business and if they choose to contact me then they should welcome my _iews (again as stated in my profile)

Don’t get me wrong I have no problem with anyone choosing who they should or should not meet based on marital status, age, creed or sexuality we all have a choice and long may it continue. This thread was not about that it was about how often you see people say openly judge people for indulging in things like bare back sex, being bisexual and not saying so, being married and a number of other flashpoints.

Maybe I should have said to receive acceptance you have to give it. For non swingers to accept swingers (I am not saying play with them) then maybe swingers should accept other groups too.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

personally i dont give a monkies what other people think of me, i will always have my opinions and morals and being a swinger makes not the slightest difference to that.

I could judge you for being petty towards other people on this thread but i cant be bothered

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe I should have said to receive acceptance you have to give it. For non swingers to accept swingers (I am not saying play with them) then maybe swingers should accept other groups too.

I take it you havent read many of my posts then?

Cause if you had you would see i accept all and actively try and promote swinging in real life as well

I also strongly defend swinging (Its my way of life ive been in it nearly 30 years)

This post was clearly aimed at my comments on the other thread and i will defend my stance on it which i clearly stated on the other thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am often accused of taking the moralistic high ground as I do not agree with married or attached people playing away without their partners knowledge and approval.

I make it clear on my profile I only meet single men but married or attached men choose to ignore this and contact me so I tell them why I will not meet them.

I dont beleive this is me taking a moralist high ground just me living by my morals

What others perceive is their business and if they choose to contact me then they should welcome my _iews (again as stated in my profile)

Maybe I should have said to receive acceptance you have to give it. For non swingers to accept swingers (I am not saying play with them) then maybe swingers should accept other groups too.

Just because your a swinger doesn't mean to say you have to agree with other lifestyles and a freedom has the ability for people to air their _iews. It only gets childish when people dont agree with that and start arguments. I havent read the other thread but it seems from this one it is you that is being argumentative and not embracing peoples rights to have their own _iews.

But this is a fun site for me so i shall step away from this thread

Ya all have a good day

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

forum not freedom doh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"personally i dont give a monkies what other people think of me, i will always have my opinions and morals and being a swinger makes not the slightest difference to that.

I could judge you for being petty towards other people on this thread but i cant be bothered"

you could... but would anyone give a shit about your opinion?? lol!

(her)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Maybe I should have said to receive acceptance you have to give it. For non swingers to accept swingers (I am not saying play with them) then maybe swingers should accept other groups too.

I take it you havent read many of my posts then?

Cause if you had you would see i accept all and actively try and promote swinging in real life as well

I also strongly defend swinging (Its my way of life ive been in it nearly 30 years)

This post was clearly aimed at my comments on the other thread and i will defend my stance on it which i clearly stated on the other thread"

Sorry to disappoint you but all threads do not revolve around you and if you actually read you will realise this.

On the thread you are talking about I was questing the use of a word that was all. I didn't see you as specifically judging, you even stated you had been on the other side.

If you care to read this thread fully before jumping in with both feet you will realise it is about judging and being judged and why people do not like to be judged themselves yet will judge others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And you are doing what exactly??

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

"personally i dont give a monkies what other people think of me, i will always have my opinions and morals and being a swinger makes not the slightest difference to that.

I could judge you for being petty towards other people on this thread but i cant be bothered

you could... but would anyone give a shit about your opinion?? lol!

(her)"

I doubt they would give a shit thats why i couldnt be botherd to type it

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I am often accused of taking the moralistic high ground as I do not agree with married or attached people playing away without their partners knowledge and approval.

I make it clear on my profile I only meet single men but married or attached men choose to ignore this and contact me so I tell them why I will not meet them.

I dont beleive this is me taking a moralist high ground just me living by my morals

What others perceive is their business and if they choose to contact me then they should welcome my _iews (again as stated in my profile)

Maybe I should have said to receive acceptance you have to give it. For non swingers to accept swingers (I am not saying play with them) then maybe swingers should accept other groups too.

But this is a fun site for me so i shall step away from this thread

Ya all have a good day"

Opinions are fine if put across in a constructive way. However we are all adults and know you can be very negative about someone eases life stile and choices.

I am a big believer in ever one having the right of choice. However i feel uncomfortable in reading at times people harshly condoning others choices that differs to their own.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And you are doing what exactly??"

Well it does actually say what i am asking in the thread title but for you i will repeat in a different manner so you dont think its all about you.

I am asking why people harshly judge others, do they get pleasure form doing so? Do they conversely feel aggrieved when others judge them and how do they justify things. And possibly would it be not better to accept others choices even if they are not yours and ultimately have others accept your life choices.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The world is full of people telling others how to run their lives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"personally i dont give a monkies what other people think of me, i will always have my opinions and morals and being a swinger makes not the slightest difference to that.

I could judge you for being petty towards other people on this thread but i cant be bothered"

You could have that opinion yes and you could be negative and condescending too. Would that be right though? Have people judged you in a negative way in the past and have you felt put upon? If so why do it to others is the essence of this thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People will always judge and be judged ....... it is how they deal with it that makes all the difference.

Some people can be diplomatic about their own personal _iews, others take a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

The term moral high ground is a very interesting one, it is nearly always used by people who find they are being criticized for their life choices. They fail to see that morality is personal and based on our beliefs and value systems, which grow from our experiences.

For me i am not a better person because of my moral choices, i am simply being true to myself, which is necessary if we are to be sane healthy creatures.

Guessing what has prompted this thread(i have spent the afternoon being used and abused by Sir,a choice of mine that many may disagree with) i believe one of the reasons people here come down so heavily on cheats is because they use words like honest and genuine, they are not being true to themselves,and people sense the cognitive dissonance.

As far as turning a blind eye to something you believe to be harmful and damaging,why do you believe people should? Surely as human beings concern for others is one of our better features, not one that we should try to erradicate.

i remember a very interesting thread on bdsm here with iconic, because of past experiences she believed bdsm was harmful, and shared her _iew, not from a judgmental attitude but from one of concern for women she had seen harmed.

It seems that only person trying to insinuate they are superior here is the OP who confuses openminded with valueless.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The term moral high ground is a very interesting one, it is nearly always used by people who find they are being criticized for their life choices. They fail to see that morality is personal and based on our beliefs and value systems, which grow from our experiences.

For me i am not a better person because of my moral choices, i am simply being true to myself, which is necessary if we are to be sane healthy creatures.

It seems that only person trying to insinuate they are superior here is the OP who confuses openminded with valueless. "

The term is a generally accepted one for people who think their point of _iew is superior to others and will go to lengths to pus that point of _iew on others often without provocation and to satisfy their own personal desire to belittle others.

Should people turn a blind eye to things? Well if it has nothing to do with you, if its someone else’s life choice then its difficult to see what moral right anyone has to ram their _iews on others.

For me no I wouldn’t say I was better or worse than others more equal. I have no confusion at all over open-mindedness as that is what I was trying to portray. Neither have I with values as I was giving the example of the general public having values different to swingers.

Maybe you are the sort who likes to judge others but would hate for people in the general public to look at your life style and belittle, degrade and ridicule it. I know I wouldn’t so I would show some respect to other people’s position rather than try to put them down. Why not try it sometime it is refreshing and you feel better from it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The world is full of people telling others how to run their lives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

..... and then again, those on the high ground, moral or otherwise are more easily seen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

see (as if to agree at the same time as disagreeing) you are right that everyones opinion is different and its likely we will never all agree, but i feel your finall statement is completely wrong. how can one test ones opinion if ones reasoning is not tested?

I thoroughly enjoy debate and the statement of fact is only the opening to debate. without an explanation of the rationale for our _iews all we are doing is playing the same game we did in school (your wrong , no your wrong , no your wrong)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The world is full of people telling others how to run their lives.

The world is also full of people who need to be told how to run their lives and that is why we have governments, laws, rules and regulations.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

I appreciate your _iew.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

im usually the one people look down their nose at and judge

im not better than anyone else but then i dont feel anyones any better than me, we are all equal and im not here to judge or be jusged

I always feel that those who make a habbit or judging people and acting like they are bettere are the ones who have the most to hide

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

For me i am not a better person because of my moral choices, i am simply being true to myself, which is necessary if we are to be sane healthy creatures.

It seems that only person trying to insinuate they are superior here is the OP who confuses openminded with valueless.

And how is the patronising high ground?

If someone comes onto here looking for meets and they are cheating on their partner then it does affect me, they contact me wanting to meet, assuming because i play alone i play behind kevs back, the clog up the forum and they give an impression of valueless sex to newbies who join.

Why do you think that so many men start i have been a week and not got a shag threads?

Because they assume that every woman on a swinging site is looking for any available cock with no reference to her own personal values.

It also affects me in chat, where along with many other women we get harrassed by men who want to know why we will not meet them right now, this sense of entitlement is partially fromthe same roots. By being here cheaters add to this idea. When we used to use the old contact mags and loot the single men in the scene were never like this, because they understood a woman who chooses to swing is not looking for no questions asked sex.

As for belittling anyone,i would like to see where i ever had,my advice is always the same, leave the site and sort out your marriage,if that fails get a divorce. It may not be sugarcoated, but it is honest, and based on compassion.

An emotion you might like to try sometime, its more attractive than arrogance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

im usually the one people look down their nose at and judge

im not better than anyone else but then i dont feel anyones any better than me, we are all equal and im not here to judge or be jusged

I always feel that those who make a habbit or judging people and acting like they are bettere are the ones who have the most to hide"

you could look down your nose at me any time....well at the top of my head anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"dont think anyone on here is guilty of taking a moral highground, imo, its just about having different standards.

some are lower, and others wish to try to make people regain ome self respect by pointing it out.

YES!!

Lol well honesty is always refreshing. In reality we are all different and have different standards but it doesn't make one better than another."

tis the best policy....shame a lot dont adopt but yes again I agree.......does that make me a 'yes' kinda gal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

in terms of the op, i prefer my morality to come from an external locus rather than an internal one (ie my moral code is absolute and every one who lives to it believes in the same code, rather than relative where every one adjusts their morality to suit themselves)

im an absolutist because i feel that i live my life to my moral code. i feel that a relative moralist adjusts their moral code to justify how they live their life. some times i dont live up to my morals, but being an absolutist, this alows me to be humble and accept the failings of others.....

Im not a particularly good christian but that's the code i choose to try to live my life by....

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

But isn't that a bit like saying to people to leave their morals at the solely because they are on a swinging site...

People's ethics and people's morals are what make everyone different in how they are applied and how people react...

I think it is kind of a big cop out when the best defense of something that is wrong is to attack other people's morals...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Assuming this thread stems from the question of people who 'play away', there's no escaping the fact that if you're playing without your partner's consent then you are cheating on your partner, and people who don't cheat have every right to have a strong opinion on the subject.

Implying that all swingers are, by definition, morally bankrupt is a tactic used by cheaters to make themselves feel better about what they're doing ('you're being bad, I'm being bad, therefore we're equal').

It's great when people are liberal minded, but it's also great when they speak out on subjects they feel strongly about. You really don't need a verification from the Pope before expressing an opinion on what's right and what's wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having no morals means I (Mrs) can't judge others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

im not better than anyone else but then i dont feel anyones any better than me, we are all equal and im not here to judge or be jusged

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights."

Why do you think it is?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have no worries in saying.... even though I am a swinger, I am judgemental.

I don't want to be involved in deceit or deceitful people.

I would hate to play part in a situation that could lead to an 'unknowing partner' finding out the one they love and trust has be banging me or my husband has been banging her.

People that put their desires before their emotions towards their supposedly life partner will be judged .....judged like some of us have been for taking the 'moralistic high ground'.

I don't mind being judged for having morals

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think its human nature to be judgmentle, no matter what anyone says everyone is. Swingers arent like they were in the seventies, its more about looks and status now. My hubby is one of the least judgmentle people i know, he doesnt seem to give a toss what anyone gets up to.

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Oh and i dont know about you lot, but i know im better than some people

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"in terms of the op, i prefer my morality to come from an external locus rather than an internal one (ie my moral code is absolute and every one who lives to it believes in the same code, rather than relative where every one adjusts their morality to suit themselves)

Im not a particularly good christian but that's the code i choose to try to live my life by....

Shall we be bad Chritians in the corner together Brother georgy

(btw i did nearly mention hate the sin love the sinner, but dint fancy being patronized again )

bbtw... Platonist here, and therefore absolutist. Anything else doesn't work ...or leads to extreme goodwinning. The trick is to understand that your ideals(in the Platonic sense)are first principles. Therefore must be solid and able to be applied to any situation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Couldn't agree more!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction. "

I understand that a partner left at home not knowing what their beloved other half is up to is wrong.

I understand why some people don't understand what I have just said... I'll carry on jerking me knee to that fact (no pleasure is felt btw.... wrong erogenous zone!!!!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction.

I understand that a partner left at home not knowing what their beloved other half is up to is wrong.

I understand why some people don't understand what I have just said... I'll carry on jerking me knee to that fact (no pleasure is felt btw.... wrong erogenous zone!!!!)

An interesting way of living your life. So you would have no problem in a devout religious neighbour finding out you and your partner swing and taking it upon them self to contact the local press with the headline reading something like local driving instructor in depraved sex orgies. And some outlandish which hunt within saying something like would you want this man teaching your teenage daughter?

Personally I think it would be unacceptable but if we follow your _iew point then its acceptable for someone to openly comment on your life style justifying it by saying a parent should know if someone if someone teaching their teenager is involved in non authodox sexual practices. Or would you prefer to judge others based on your moral _iewpoint but not have others judge you based upon theirs?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I do think this question was brought up from another thread, but I also think it is a valid question.

I think everyone judges, even if you think you don't. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, we all have our own values and morals.

We have our own _iews and reasons why we don't play with marrieds, but we wouldn't tell people who are married how to live their life or lecture them on what they should be doing especially if they havn't asked for advice on that subject ....as far as I am concerned it hasn't anything to do with us unless it involves us and it never will.

I think in certain cases it can come across as telling people how to live their lives, and if it was me being told how to live my life I would be telling them where to get off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction.

I understand that a partner left at home not knowing what their beloved other half is up to is wrong.

I understand why some people don't understand what I have just said... I'll carry on jerking me knee to that fact (no pleasure is felt btw.... wrong erogenous zone!!!!)

There are usualy posts by people comenting on these threads 'honest cheats' by people who seem to have been cheated on themselves (and I by no means comment on the previous personaly, i dont know you or your history) but, i think personal experience can be a terrible basis for an opinion.

ive two examples of this, one directly related and one not.....

first, I could be called an enablr, i have met a cheat on a (semi) regular basis. This was a bad thing to do, I was also very clear with her that I didn't realy aprove but realistically not shagging her was not going to stop her from cheating.... as it happened I put a stop to things, shortly before she broke up wit her hby who had also been playing away (perhaps you peopl with extra curiculars will take note....)

And on 2nd thoughts I wont share the second as it is far too personal, not to mention contentious

.....

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I do think this question was brought up from another thread, but I also think it is a valid question.

I think everyone judges, even if you think you don't. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, we all have our own values and morals.

I think in certain cases it can come across as telling people how to live their lives, and if it was me being told how to live my life I would be telling them where to get off.

Fair comment, but if someone starts a thread on "Why arent i getting meets" or "how do i get my wife into swinging" then the fact they are cheating is relevent to any replies.

i would answer the second very differently from someone who posted they had never met, but joined because they hoped their wife and them would swing together in the future. In fact i have answered several such threads without reference to the fact they are married.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction.

I understand that a partner left at home not knowing what their beloved other half is up to is wrong.

I understand why some people don't understand what I have just said... I'll carry on jerking me knee to that fact (no pleasure is felt btw.... wrong erogenous zone!!!!)

since when has cheating on your spouse been a lifestyle choice?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

I also think answering relevant questions is totally different to sounding like a marriage guidance / lecturing thread. I am sure if they need marriage guidence they will find it from the relevant people.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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And on 2nd thoughts I wont share the second as it is far too personal, not to mention contentious

.....

Damn, now we will be wondering

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction.

I understand that a partner left at home not knowing what their beloved other half is up to is wrong.

I understand why some people don't understand what I have just said... I'll carry on jerking me knee to that fact (no pleasure is felt btw.... wrong erogenous zone!!!!)

since when has cheating on your spouse been a lifestyle choice?"

Well pardon me but this thread is about people preaching morals and not about cheating. Peoples morals vary and you may well be shocked but people have other ones to you. If you hadn’t notices there are many thousands of people who do not see swinging as morally acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm almost a little scared to post on this thread, but I'm gonna...

It makes me laugh when someone accuses you of taking the moral high ground for having an opinion on a certain subject.

Opinions differ. yet those who state their opinion are often accused as taking the moral high ground.

I think that says something more of the person that is doing the accusing. they must know whatever subject they are backing is essentially morally wrong, or why feel the need to accuse someone of taking the moral high ground? Does that not just mean that in your eyes you are taking the moral low ground? I know which ground i'd rather be on.

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

If you join a 'Real Ale' appreciation website and start posting in the forum about the joy of drinking cans of cheap lager......... what the fuck do you expect to happen!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"I'm almost a little scared to post on this thread, but I'm gonna...

It makes me laugh when someone accuses you of taking the moral high ground for having an opinion on a certain subject.

Opinions differ. yet those who state their opinion are often accused as taking the moral high ground.

clever and sexy

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"If you join a 'Real Ale' appreciation website and start posting in the forum about the joy of drinking cans of cheap lager......... what the fuck do you expect to happen!"

*bows in awe*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And on 2nd thoughts I wont share the second as it is far too personal, not to mention contentious

.....

feed me a bottle of red and ask me again one day.....

Damn, now we will be wondering

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm almost a little scared to post on this thread, but I'm gonna...

It makes me laugh when someone accuses you of taking the moral high ground for having an opinion on a certain subject.

Opinions differ. yet those who state their opinion are often accused as taking the moral high ground.

clever and sexy

why thank you gorgeous, right back atcha xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you join a 'Real Ale' appreciation website and start posting in the forum about the joy of drinking cans of cheap lager......... what the fuck do you expect to happen!"

It would be interesting to see the reply, but i would guess they would smile and take little notice as they would be wasting good beer drinking time and they have more of a laid back attitude.

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"If you join a 'Real Ale' appreciation website and start posting in the forum about the joy of drinking cans of cheap lager......... what the fuck do you expect to happen!

It would be interesting to see the reply, but i would guess they would smile and take little notice as they would be wasting good beer drinking time and they have more of a laid back attitude.

And the pig on runway 4 has been cleared for take off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

truth to tell I quite like it up here on the moral high ground, the _iew is lovely....

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term."

so go on about being dom.........

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"If you join a 'Real Ale' appreciation website and start posting in the forum about the joy of drinking cans of cheap lager......... what the fuck do you expect to happen!

It would be interesting to see the reply, but i would guess they would smile and take little notice as they would be wasting good beer drinking time and they have more of a laid back attitude.

And the pig on runway 4 has been cleared for take off."

You have been on real ale sites too then,they van get nastier than mumsnet...which is the 4chan of the modern world

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term.

so go on about being dom.........

only if u get on your knees bitchboi

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you join a 'Real Ale' appreciation website and start posting in the forum about the joy of drinking cans of cheap lager......... what the fuck do you expect to happen!

It would be interesting to see the reply, but i would guess they would smile and take little notice as they would be wasting good beer drinking time and they have more of a laid back attitude.

And the pig on runway 4 has been cleared for take off."

The flightpath is clear you are free to taxi.

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By *uitar_antiheroMan over a year ago

Glasgow

I know I'm wading in a little late, but I thought I'd drop in my thoughts.

Being judgmental is completely natural. We all have our _iews on what is right and wrong. We will all disagree with what some people do or say when It does not dovetail nicely with our belief system. This in my _iew is judging. I would call it acceptable. IF it is a case of disagreeing with a course of action or opinion without trying to impose your belief system on someone else to make you feel good about yourself.

For example, I personally am very much against smoking and drug taking. But should you choose to smoke or take drugs, I can not and should not tell you not to. The same rule applies to swinging, cheating or whatever. Feel free to disagree with any action or lifestyle on a personal level, share your opinion if you want. But be aware it is only an opinion and nothing more than that and should only be portrayed as such.

Those who do try to impose their opinion on others or bellitle the beliefs of others only show themselves to be arrogant, possibly self obsessed and weak if they can only feel strong by trying to make others feel inferior. It's bullying for grown ups. Not big, not clever.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"I know I'm wading in a little late, but I thought I'd drop in my thoughts.

Good points...however i will restate what i have said before,posting your _iews on an internet forum is not trying to impose them,and anyone who takes advice from strangers of the interweb is breaking the first rule...which is never take advice of strangers on the interweb

Forums are for self expression, nothing more.There can be bullying, i have been on the receiving end of it, and stalking, but that is about a sustained attack over a period of time.Simply expressing your opinion is what forums were invented for.

i often think threads like this could be avoided if ppl were a little bit more familiar with how posting worked. Nowhere has an only post if u agree rule.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term."

To be honest, I doubt if any person playing away will think a lecture or marraige guidance "advice" when not asked for was helpful at all and I am never surprised when they go pear shaped on threads.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

Everyone has their own moral code and opinion, and whether consciously or not I do believe we all judge at some point...whether rightly or wrongly. It doesn't necessarily make us better or worse than each other, just different.

We can judge on something like musical taste without too much criticism as people accept the differences in tastes and opinions people have, but when it comes to things that are more controversial emotions do come more into play and often make people fight their cause harder.

Sex and sexuality are so open to interpretation by the individual that it's easy judge without intending to cause upset, but still managing it as other people's tolerances and personal morals can be so very different. For example a flippant comment that you hadn't put much thought into can cause all out war...and even if you want to rethink/reword it later the damage has often already been done and put people on the defensive.

No one is devoid of sin, it's just that different people _iew different sins in completely different ways. And most people wouldn't 'relish' judging others, it's just a part of human nature that can sometimes be ugly, like many others! x

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term.

To be honest, I doubt if any person playing away will think a lecture or marraige guidance "advice" when not asked for was helpful at all and I am never surprised when they go pear shaped on threads."

but once they post they no longer own the thread,,,tbh the op on another thread has accepted what ppl are saying...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know I'm wading in a little late, but I thought I'd drop in my thoughts.

Good point of _iew can't fault it.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

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By *uitar_antiheroMan over a year ago

Glasgow

What clumsy bird just said. I agree. And jemima, I agree that anyone taking on a strangers opinion as better than their own on a forum is being daft. However, what I was getting at and I suspect the op meant was that sometimes an opinion is stated in such a way as to sound accusatory. We're considering the intention or motive of such a person, not simply the words which can be interpreted in about 17.6 million ways. I hope that makes sense? In a non confrontational way.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term.

To be honest, I doubt if any person playing away will think a lecture or marraige guidance "advice" when not asked for was helpful at all and I am never surprised when they go pear shaped on threads.

but once they post they no longer own the thread,,,tbh the op on another thread has accepted what ppl are saying..."

I am not talking about one thread alone...I am talking about posts that are lectures and telling people what they should be doing with their lives.

If I told you to go away and only play in the missionary position as it is the only one I think you should play in...would you think thats ok for me to do? Would you tell me to take a hike and mind my own business?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term.

To be honest, I doubt if any person playing away will think a lecture or marraige guidance "advice" when not asked for was helpful at all and I am never surprised when they go pear shaped on threads.

but once they post they no longer own the thread,,,tbh the op on another thread has accepted what ppl are saying...

I am not talking about one thread alone...I am talking about posts that are lectures and telling people what they should be doing with their lives.

And you are not allowed to go bareback or have a cig afterwards.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

"I have no worries in saying.... even though I am a swinger, I am judgemental.

I don't want to be involved in deceit or deceitful people.

I would hate to play part in a situation that could lead to an 'unknowing partner' finding out the one they love and trust has be banging me or my husband has been banging her.

People that put their desires before their emotions towards their supposedly life partner will be judged .....judged like some of us have been for taking the 'moralistic high ground'.

I don't mind being judged for having morals

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"What clumsy bird just said. I agree. And jemima, I agree that anyone taking on a strangers opinion as better than their own on a forum is being daft. However, what I was getting at and I suspect the op meant was that sometimes an opinion is stated in such a way as to sound accusatory. We're considering the intention or motive of such a person, not simply the words which can be interpreted in about 17.6 million ways. I hope that makes sense? In a non confrontational way. "

oh it makes perfect sense, but frankly i cant mind read and forums would be deathly dull if no one posted strong _iews. Its why threads like this are redundant unless the op really wants a moral debate,,,

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"I agree " why am I not getting any meets" then being married could be relevant, but not asking how to get their wife into the scene or introducing themselves to the site.

But what one person thinks is relevant will differ to what another thinks...

take a subject close to my heart...bdsm if someone posts on here asking how to be a Dom i will talk about the mindset,the attitude, the need to understand both their own needs and the subs.

Another poster might put up specific ideas for role play...we both think we are being relevant,only the op knows which helps them long term.

To be honest, I doubt if any person playing away will think a lecture or marraige guidance "advice" when not asked for was helpful at all and I am never surprised when they go pear shaped on threads.

but once they post they no longer own the thread,,,tbh the op on another thread has accepted what ppl are saying...

I am not talking about one thread alone...I am talking about posts that are lectures and telling people what they should be doing with their lives.

no i;d ignore you...the idea that you could tell me how to have sex is quite frankly laughable...i dont mean that rudely, but why on earth should it offend me....

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By *uitar_antiheroMan over a year ago

Glasgow

Well it seems he's away to bed. He'll have to trawl through this all in the morning.

If anything at least its got us voicing opinions.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"Well it seems he's away to bed. He'll have to trawl through this all in the morning.

If anything at least its got us voicing opinions."

not really,this thread turns up every week. The interesting thing would be to do a thread about morals without being a patronising twunt, i have started a few, my dead indian one went down well

feel free to start a debate on morals that doesnt start from the point of believing u are superior and then you will find ppl are more than willing to engage and debate.

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By *uitar_antiheroMan over a year ago

Glasgow

Twunt...I'm gonna use that.

To be honest, I'm more likely to start a thread about what was your favourite tv program as a kid.

In fact I might just commander this one for that purpose.

Mine was Knightmare. Watched on youtube recently. Good times.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some very good posts.

My _iew is that almost all of us try to live our lives by some kind of 'moral' code or some form of rule system whether that be internal or external.

Judging is a natural reaction everybody has to their environment. It is almost instinctive, even members of the animal kingdom have to judge their environment for danger.

Person A will judge themself against their own moral code, person A will judge person B against firstly person A's moral code and then maybe even person B's own moral code. However you look at it there's a whole lot of judging going on! That won't change.

The variables for me are firstly what makes up your individual moral code, and more importantly how you choose to act once you have made the inevitable judgement.

I believe that one of the key differences between intelligence and wisdom is how you choose to act when a judgement is made. Insecurity can also play a part in how a person chooses to act.

Some feel the need to become moral police on the behalf of society, and try to impose their morals.

Some choose to 'preach' their judgement, this often leads to the idea of a moral high ground and potentially a fight to occupy it.

Some choose to analyse whether the judgement they've arrived at means that someone elses actions will actually impact their life in a detrimental way, ie pose a danger. If not they 'live and let live'.

I am not going to say which of these options are right or wrong because that in itself would be attempting to impose my judgement, but I will say that a forum creates a 'false' environment different from day to day life where people are encouraged through debate to share their _iews opinions and talk about their judgements. That sets a dynamic where moral based conflicts are probably inevitable. It's probably unrealistic to have a vibrant forum without moral conflicts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I use altruistic methods, to often get what I want to my way...its selfish sometimes but I suppose I'm always right.We should agree that when we are all discussing morals, that there is one who can lead others into their own beliefs.All of the above comments o course have their merits, when set against this backdrop.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There is something I can't bear about this thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There is something I can't bear about this thread."

ok ok ok, I havent asked to shag u yet, so am asking now...fancy it??? x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

im usually the one people look down their nose at and judge

im not better than anyone else but then i dont feel anyones any better than me, we are all equal and im not here to judge or be jusged

I always feel that those who make a habbit or judging people and acting like they are bettere are the ones who have the most to hide"

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"Twunt...I'm gonna use that.

To be honest, I'm more likely to start a thread about what was your favourite tv program as a kid.

In fact I might just commander this one for that purpose.

Mine was Knightmare. Watched on youtube recently. Good times."

ohhh knightmare was fab...i bet the special effects look really lame now though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

im usually the one people look down their nose at and judge

im not better than anyone else but then i dont feel anyones any better than me, we are all equal and im not here to judge or be jusged

I always feel that those who make a habbit or judging people and acting like they are bettere are the ones who have the most to hide"

That is how i often feel when reading things. So much venom is spat out at times by some and you tend to think there is something behind this. There is a huge difference between having an opinion and being hateful.

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By *john121Man over a year ago

staffs

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights.

Cool, I see it rather than a genuine question, it being a pop at the posters from the other thread.

again, that is my opinion and may differ from yours.

Smoke mirrors and manipulation do i see?

I avoided capitalising any part of it as capitalization is widely regarded as shouting and something you avoid."

in a previous thread it was shown and proven by moderators that the only way to _iew your pics here was to be a member and therefore the general public cannot _iew...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We all have choices and the one thing that is guaranteed, we will never all agree.

All you can do is make your own & not make them for others.

Doesn't mean we have to agree with the choices others make, just accept them as THEIR choice, not yours.

BUT NEVER JUSTIFY YOUR CHOICE TO ANYONE.

exactly, continue your pontification and enjoy

I just adore sarcasm as do you I see its far better not in capitals though, thank you.

I chose to ignore your comment re capitals as it was my choice to use them and I would never justify myself.

Now you seem hellbent on having a little squabble with anyone you gives a nano second of attention. I just answered your OP. I am bored already.

enjoy the rest of your afternoon. ( and not a hint of sarcasm ) just genuine politeness.

I was asking a question as to why swingers judge others when they are unhappy in the main that society judges swingers and usually not in the best of lights.

Cool, I see it rather than a genuine question, it being a pop at the posters from the other thread.

again, that is my opinion and may differ from yours.

Smoke mirrors and manipulation do i see?

I avoided capitalising any part of it as capitalization is widely regarded as shouting and something you avoid.

in a previous thread it was shown and proven by moderators that the only way to _iew your pics here was to be a member and therefore the general public cannot _iew...

That really doesn't make a lot of sense as its a free site. You discover it and you can be signed up with no real intent to use it and be _iewing pictures of local people with in a few minutes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

people arnt taking the moral high ground, they just feel sorry for that guys wife and possibly family they have together.

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Moral Code….. the code by which individuals identify right from wrong. It defines what each individual will believe to be acceptable and unacceptable social behaviour.

Judgement….. the act of applying a moral code to a situation.

Moral High Ground…. a term used to undermine those who have applied their moral code to make a judgement, which the term user feels is unfair.

Amorality…... disregard/indifference and even absense of moral beliefs. A charateristic often associated with phsycopaths.

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By *ensual temptressWoman over a year ago

Southampton

yes people will have different _iew points/morals ,and yes some people will voice their opinion not in the most constructive way . some may _iew it as moral high ground and judging ,others as just having a strong _iew . bottom line if people see anything abusive ,personal attacks ect on posts then just report them to admin ! they will remove anything inapropriate from threads or is that them taking the moral high ground ? lol!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oscar Wilde put it best: "Morality, like art, means drawing a line someplace."

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"Oscar Wilde put it best: "Morality, like art, means drawing a line someplace.""

I like that quote.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

no i;d ignore you...the idea that you could tell me how to have sex is quite frankly laughable......"

I think I have my answer, Thankyou.

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"people arnt taking the moral high ground, they just feel sorry for that guys wife and possibly family they have together.

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Dont you think thats a tad patronising?

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

Opinions are like arseholes.... everybodies' got one.

Broadly speaking, I try to live life in a "Christian" manner, even though I am an aetheist. I am guessing that goes for most on here, but I dare say there are some ne'er-do-wells on here too.

If you distilled the "morals" of a representative average 1000 people on here, you would end up with a fairly broad, but nevertheless well defined, moral "highway", along which "we" (society) expect most to travel.

Some will deviate slightly off this path, and be castigated for it, some may even take a right turn and head in a different direction altogether, and we have all seen the comments on some of the threads when this happens.

Those that do head off on a major tangent often know, even before they put finger to keyboard, what the majority verdict will be, but they do it anyway, perhaps this is part of the make-up of who they are that they not only want to do (or have done) these unmentionable things, but also want to inform others (perhaps for the shock value?).

As for those that wander off course a little, well, we have all been there, pushed the boundaries, asked a question without thinking etc. This so-called "grey area" I can live with.... the rest, well, if you (those that plumb the depths of the murky waters way off the highway) feel you have the right to do what you do, and then tell all and sundry about it, then I reserve the right to jump in and give my opinion, wanted or not.

Bottom line, you know its wrong, so stop telling everyone about it and then coming over all "oh poor me" when the shit hits the fan!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Twunt...I'm gonna use that.

To be honest, I'm more likely to start a thread about what was your favourite tv program as a kid.

In fact I might just commander this one for that purpose.

Mine was Knightmare. Watched on youtube recently. Good times."

"Simon, sidestep to your left.."

Used to love that programme

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Opinions are like arseholes.... everybodies' got one.

Broadly speaking, I try to live life in a "Christian" manner, even though I am an aetheist. I am guessing that goes for most on here, but I dare say there are some ne'er-do-wells on here too.

Bottom line, you know its wrong, so stop telling everyone about it and then coming over all "oh poor me" when the shit hits the fan!

it 100%

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it a position you like to be in? If so why? Are people on the high ground devoid of sin or do they just feel better than the rest and relish in judging others?

Discuss.

I'm dissappointed by the number of people who criticise honesty, but accept dishonesty without question.

Moralists are like that but often they lack the ability to absorb and understand before committing a knee jerk reaction.

I understand that a partner left at home not knowing what their beloved other half is up to is wrong.

I understand why some people don't understand what I have just said... I'll carry on jerking me knee to that fact (no pleasure is felt btw.... wrong erogenous zone!!!!)

Oh my

Someone knows more about my life than I do

Distorting things to "dress it up" is very 'tabloid' don't ya think? (got a new job for a new Sunday 'red top by any chance?).

For starters, we don't attend orgies.

Secondly, neither of us are driving instructors.

Thirdly, our neighbour has absolutely no interest in religion.

Next point, you are a swinger (that makes us level).

Final point ....me and my OH are truely honest with each other, meaning ZERO deceit .....can you say that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Some interesting responses however some concern me. This thread wasn’t about married people playing away and its disturbing to see how some have used single cheating men who are an obvious target to justify their reasons to judge others. Its a shame people feel the need to defend their actions and do so rather than avoid doing it in the future.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Opinions are like arseholes.... everybodies' got one."
That's true but why ram it down someone's throat? Have an opinion but don't push it on others in an aggressive manner.

This thread isn't about people going poor me its about people trying to force their moral values on others. I really though swingers could appreciate that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all "

Thats not what I was trying to point out at all. I just find it very hypocritical that swingers get annoyed that the general public judge them but feel perfectly free to be highly critical of other groups.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

More importantly why cant u see that just because some people condemn you, your right to have morals isnt taken away.In the 70;s pedophile groups in the states argued they should not be illegal because homosexuality had been legalized, they used the same arguements you do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect? "

I would expect people to treat others as they expect to be treat themselves is that too high an expectation to have of other swingers? There is more homophobic, bareback, over weight, cheating negativity among swingers than i would have expected.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

Wow i can't believe you said that!

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

I ram nothing down anyone's throat and dont intend to, I/we have our own morals, we know that not everyone has the same morals as us, I will voice my opinion that is what the forums are for. And it is my opinion and nothing else.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

Wow i can't believe you said that!"

Why not, you believe morality is about circumstance...i believe it is absolute...my morality is based on the belief do no harm.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

Wow i can't believe you said that!

Why not, you believe morality is about circumstance...i believe it is absolute...my morality is based on the belief do no harm. "

Please do not interact with me your last comments were abhorrent and i refuse to discuss matters with someone who will use such examples just to point score.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I ram nothing down anyone's throat and dont intend to, I/we have our own morals, we know that not everyone has the same morals as us, I will voice my opinion that is what the forums are for. And it is my opinion and nothing else."

I'm not saying everyone does but some people go way too far and attempt to belittle, browbeat and grind people down at times. Yet they still want acceptance from the general public.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

hm, not sure cheating on your partner puts you in a group but isnt this the argument of Im judging you and deciding that you are unworthy of judging me... therefore you are being just as judgemental?

I have no morals because I swing?

Not really a valid argument in my opinion.

However, I do hold with the old saying along the line of not judging a man/woman until you have walked in their shoes but thats a personal thing. People are on here for all sorts of reasons, many of which are not published and nor should they be. I dont really worry about being judged as I have a very good internal compass that gives me hell if it thinks I have gone off track, as do many people I imagine.

To thyne ownself be true.

As for wanting to be accepted as a swinger by the general public... pish! Its not something I have any wish for.... its a naughty secret we share as a couple and I like it that way. I understand and accept that some would find what we do offensive and would not inflict knowledge of our sexual practices on them out of respect for them and us. Maybe there is a lesson there?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

Wow i can't believe you said that!

Why not, you believe morality is about circumstance...i believe it is absolute...my morality is based on the belief do no harm.

Please do not interact with me your last comments were abhorrent and i refuse to discuss matters with someone who will use such examples just to point score."

What did i say that was abhorrent,it is historical fact, and you cannot stop me posting,in fact asking me to simply encorages me.

You belive we can not judge things because others might judge us, i simply pointed out the danger of relativistic morality,something you have clealy never thought of and are unwilling to engage with.

You want another example...death penalty supporters who oppose abortion

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

I'm not saying everyone does but some people go way too far and attempt to belittle, browbeat and grind people down at times. Yet they still want acceptance from the general public. "

Who wants this acceptance...most ppl here want to keep their sex life private,cos thats what sex lives should be.

As for browbeating and belittling,you still have to come up with one concrete example

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

I'm not saying everyone does but some people go way too far and attempt to belittle, browbeat and grind people down at times. Yet they still want acceptance from the general public. "

I honestly believe that some people have very strong beliefs that they arnt trying to belittle, browbeat and grind people down. On the other hand there is some people that will try and get a reation, these you people you click onto very quickly. You also have people that ae not very good in protraying what they want to say in wriiten form.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

P.S. forgot to add, just because we as a married couple swing we still have morals!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

hm, not sure cheating on your partner puts you in a group but isnt this the argument of Im judging you and deciding that you are unworthy of judging me... therefore you are being just as judgemental?

I have no morals because I swing?

Not really a valid argument in my opinion.

To thyne ownself be true.

I can understand some of what you say but the not wanting the general public to accept swinging I find hard to believe. People want acceptance for all they do in life from others.

I am not saying people shouldn't have an opinion, I am not saying people should like all others do but I think its isn't acceptable for people to be so aggressive with someone because they don't like how they live their life. When people take a moralistic stance and tell others that they are living their life wrongly and that should do it another way just isn't right. This happens on a number of topics and i think sometimes people do it for shear pleasure in making others uncomfortable.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

Wow i can't believe you said that!

Why not, you believe morality is about circumstance...i believe it is absolute...my morality is based on the belief do no harm.

Please do not interact with me your last comments were abhorrent and i refuse to discuss matters with someone who will use such examples just to point score.

What did i say that was abhorrent,it is historical fact, and you cannot stop me posting,in fact asking me to simply encorages me.

You belive we can not judge things because others might judge us, i simply pointed out the danger of relativistic morality,something you have clealy never thought of and are unwilling to engage with.

You want another example...death penalty supporters who oppose abortion

Blimey... theres a scary fundraiser

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

There are comments made on certain threads that are belittling... They may not have been posted with the intent but they come across that way.

I include some of my own when I read back at times

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm not saying everyone does but some people go way too far and attempt to belittle, browbeat and grind people down at times. Yet they still want acceptance from the general public.

Im sorry but people really do like to browbeat others. Look at the number of threads that get closed. Its not as bad as the Spanish Inquisition where religion was forced on people but at times people do ran their _iews on others with glee.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

I'm not saying everyone does but some people go way too far and attempt to belittle, browbeat and grind people down at times. Yet they still want acceptance from the general public.

reaction*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

And I don't intentionally judge either

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

Who says swingers all get annoyed, who says the general public asa mass judge swingers...

Wow i can't believe you said that!

Why not, you believe morality is about circumstance...i believe it is absolute...my morality is based on the belief do no harm.

Please do not interact with me your last comments were abhorrent and i refuse to discuss matters with someone who will use such examples just to point score.

What did i say that was abhorrent,it is historical fact, and you cannot stop me posting,in fact asking me to simply encorages me.

You belive we can not judge things because others might judge us, i simply pointed out the danger of relativistic morality,something you have clealy never thought of and are unwilling to engage with.

You want another example...death penalty supporters who oppose abortion

Blimey... theres a scary fundraiser

Bring your own gun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Please do not interact with me your last comments were abhorrent and i refuse to discuss matters with someone who will use such examples just to point score."

See this is the problem here and how it all started

You post on a public forum you can't pick and chose your answer

If someone choses to post controversial threads they should be willing to accept controversial answers if not then don't post

As in your case you cannot state in a public forum please don't interact with me

All you can do is refuse to answer that person

It all down to individual choice always

And there is always a minimum if two choices in every situation

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

And I don't intentionally judge either"

I was just thinking the same. In other words.... how can we judge unless we know exactly what the circumstances are and how you feel etc etc etc... its really not our job to have to judge. However, if posts are made they will invariably be commented on. Like all subjects, everyone has a different opinion and will say so. If someone finds this traumatic they should step away from the computer and maybe think carefully before they post.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

hm, not sure cheating on your partner puts you in a group but isnt this the argument of Im judging you and deciding that you are unworthy of judging me... therefore you are being just as judgemental?

I have no morals because I swing?

Not really a valid argument in my opinion.

To thyne ownself be true.

I can understand some of what you say but the not wanting the general public to accept swinging I find hard to believe. People want acceptance for all they do in life from others.

No way are the majority of people ever going to accept what i do with Sir, i just want to not be arressted for it.

i think you my be conflicted if the acceptance of others matters that much to you...i think u will find most ppl on here dont give a flying fuck

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

Please do not interact with me your last comments were abhorrent and i refuse to discuss matters with someone who will use such examples just to point score.

See this is the problem here and how it all started

You post on a public forum you can't pick and chose your answer

If someone choses to post controversial threads they should be willing to accept controversial answers if not then don't post

As in your case you cannot state in a public forum please don't interact with me

All you can do is refuse to answer that person

It all down to individual choice always

And there is always a minimum if two choices in every situation"

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

hm, not sure cheating on your partner puts you in a group but isnt this the argument of Im judging you and deciding that you are unworthy of judging me... therefore you are being just as judgemental?

I have no morals because I swing?

Not really a valid argument in my opinion.

To thyne ownself be true.

I can understand some of what you say but the not wanting the general public to accept swinging I find hard to believe. People want acceptance for all they do in life from others.

You cant believe that doing something that is taboo, secret and naughty feels better than being socially acceptable???

Cripes, you need to loosen that tie boy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

And I don't intentionally judge either"
This is not a thread about any individual for a start and I haven’t said anyone can’t have morals at any point. I do have an issue with people pushing their moral _iews on others in frankly at times can only be described as an aggressive manner. I am at a loss if people see a thread they don’t like why they just don’t leave it as there are at least another 30 on a page. Fine if people want to politely add comments but at times there is a witch hunt against people and its been going on as long as i have been on here. Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

And I don't intentionally judge eitherThis is not a thread about any individual for a start and I haven’t said anyone can’t have morals at any point. I do have an issue with people pushing their moral _iews on others in frankly at times can only be described as an aggressive manner. I am at a loss if people see a thread they don’t like why they just don’t leave it as there are at least another 30 on a page. Fine if people want to politely add comments but at times there is a witch hunt against people and its been going on as long as i have been on here. Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see. "

What you see as pushing others see as how forums work...you start a thread and ppl comment,anyone is free to say what they want.

As i have said before,if u dont want to hear dont start the thread, and never take advice of strangers on the internet.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

I have taught my children that they should always go with their gut instinct and be true to themselves. Also, cant please all of the people all of the time so dont try. The one they struggle with the most is that I explain that they wont always please me either.... I may not always be able to approve of everything they do but if they decide its right for them then they need to have the strength of their convinctions. All valid lessons in my opinion.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

but is this not an open forums where people wether right or wrong, have different point of _iews can give thier opinion, as i stated before, some people have a hard time expressing an opinion without coming across the wrong way. I have never and will never intentionally set out to upset or annoy anyone but in forums its an open discusion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

like why they just don’t leave it as there are at least another 30 on a page. Fine if people want to politely add comments but at times there is a witch hunt against people and its been going on as long as i have been on here. Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see. "

Welcome to real life

The swinging world strangely is full of the same people who frequent real life

No real difference there

Some are tolerant some are not

That's because all are human

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

Welcome to real life

The swinging world strangely is full of the same people who frequent real life

No real difference there

Some are tolerant some are not

That's because all are human"

Nooo dont u know soapy we are a secret society totally separate from the real world...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see. "

Likewise, it is unpleasant to see some people intentionally or unintentionally belittling others on the ground of intelligence.

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

What you see as pushing others see as how forums work...you start a thread and ppl comment,anyone is free to say what they want.

As i have said before,if u dont want to hear dont start the thread, and never take advice of strangers on the internet."

Now confused about whether to take that advice

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I have taught my children that they should always go with their gut instinct and be true to themselves. Also, cant please all of the people all of the time so dont try. The one they struggle with the most is that I explain that they wont always please me either.... I may not always be able to approve of everything they do but if they decide its right for them then they need to have the strength of their convinctions. All valid lessons in my opinion. "

But you will have told them its not acceptable to be nasty to groups they don't like. I am sure you have told them its not acceptable to stone or egg houses of people they don't like.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see.

Likewise, it is unpleasant to see some people intentionally or unintentionally belittling others on the ground of intelligence.

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

to be honest mine are both stainless steel

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see.

Likewise, it is unpleasant to see some people intentionally or unintentionally belittling others on the ground of intelligence.

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

I would agree but do not see the relevence of the pot kettle or black.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

If you dish it out be prepared to take it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

to be honest mine are both stainless steel

My stainless steel ones for camping are covered in black soot!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

BIg Issue anyone?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

What you see as pushing others see as how forums work...you start a thread and ppl comment,anyone is free to say what they want.

As i have said before,if u dont want to hear dont start the thread, and never take advice of strangers on the internet.

Now confused about whether to take that advice

i know, but then its me so u know to ignore 99% of what i say...fancy a fuck

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

But you will have told them its not acceptable to be nasty to groups they don't like. I am sure you have told them its not acceptable to stone or egg houses of people they don't like. "

Actually I never found that those lessons were needed. They both champion underdogs at the first chance they get. Even to the detriment of themselves at times.

I havent read other threads that maybe you are referring to you but can only say if you feel that cut up about comments posted I really think it unwise to continue stewing over it. Really, this is just the internet. I think maybe the question you should ask yourself is why do I care so much what others think and, if I do, is it wise to participate.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see.

Likewise, it is unpleasant to see some people intentionally or unintentionally belittling others on the ground of intelligence.

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

I would agree but do not see the relevence of the pot kettle or black."

You wouldnt

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

But you will have told them its not acceptable to be nasty to groups they don't like. I am sure you have told them its not acceptable to stone or egg houses of people they don't like.

Actually I never found that those lessons were needed. They both champion underdogs at the first chance they get. Even to the detriment of themselves at times.

Or as i said...

btw the fancy a fuck belonged to the 1%

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

"When you enter an eviromental of couples that base their lives on trusting eachother what kind of reaction would you expect?

So swingers can't have morals then?

Are you not doing what you are accusing the general public of doing?

And before you say anything please be aware I'm bisexual,when I used to play I barebacked and had it on my profile in capitals and as I've said I've cheated

Have I had any problems getting on I'm the swinging world or on this site?

Why?

Cause I don't start threads bragging or promoting any of those things

I just simply get on with it

That way I don't open myself up to being judged

What you see as pushing others see as how forums work...you start a thread and ppl comment,anyone is free to say what they want.

As i have said before,if u dont want to hear dont start the thread, and never take advice of strangers on the internet.

Now confused about whether to take that advice

i know, but then its me so u know to ignore 99% of what i say...fancy a fuck

Now stop reading all those messages in my inbox!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see.

Likewise, it is unpleasant to see some people intentionally or unintentionally belittling others on the ground of intelligence.

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

I would agree but do not see the relevence of the pot kettle or black.

You wouldnt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

btw the fancy a fuck belonged to the 1%

Ive never had one of those

Soapy toddles off ta lounge ta put a complaint thread up xx

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Some people relish and take delight in pushing their morals on others and its unpleasant to see.

Likewise, it is unpleasant to see some people intentionally or unintentionally belittling others on the ground of intelligence.

Pot, kettle, both black, IMHO!

I would agree but do not see the relevence of the pot kettle or black."
I dont see the relevance of it either to be honest, can i ask the OP what do you think that Married people who are single should do? Be honest and risk abuse or remain sneaky?

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"show me someone who has never judged another and I will show you someone who has no morals at all

I don't get annoyed at the general public judging me. I can accept that many have different values to mine regarding sex.

What is a tad annoying is someone trying to tell me I (and others) should not judge people whilst he has done nothing but wave his own big fat judging stick at anyone whose opinion he doesn't like.

If you really want to know what hypocritical looks like, take some advice from Michael Jackson and start by looking at the man in the mirror.

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

BINGO!

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