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"Agree or disagree? " Superficial in what way? | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging" That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers." ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers." Where does it say that's what 'fab' means on here? | |||
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"Agree or disagree? " Agree wholeheartedly - exactly how I like it. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? " Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. | |||
"Agree or disagree? Superficial in what way?" Based totally on looks, which it is. At least to start with, anyone who says different is talking shite. | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. " See I see it slightly differently I think yes that was the definition way back in the day but as time has moved on so has peoples views on sex and monogamy and no strings I’m in a couple , threesomes are my top thing but I’m told I’m not a ‘real swinger’ because I don’t like random group play cos I’m fussy By definition swinging of throwing keys into a bowl would horrify me but that’s exactly how it was seen Times change and I like to embrace it | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. See I see it slightly differently I think yes that was the definition way back in the day but as time has moved on so has peoples views on sex and monogamy and no strings I’m in a couple , threesomes are my top thing but I’m told I’m not a ‘real swinger’ because I don’t like random group play cos I’m fussy By definition swinging of throwing keys into a bowl would horrify me but that’s exactly how it was seen Times change and I like to embrace it " Agreed, I don't think any one person can truly define swinging. | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. " What do you think swinging should be? | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? " It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question" So why is it OK for you to look for singles and call it swinging but if singles do it, then it's not swinging? Not trying to cause an issue, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. | |||
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"Agree or disagree? Superficial in what way? Based totally on looks, which it is. At least to start with, anyone who says different is talking shite. " Based on looks? 90% of the site members have no face just members | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question So why is it OK for you to look for singles and call it swinging but if singles do it, then it's not swinging? Not trying to cause an issue, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. " Open can of worms there | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question" Swinging for us had never really being about partner swapping it’s about doing naughty things with other people in variety of MFMF, FFM, MMF combinations, just swapping partners is boring.... | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question So why is it OK for you to look for singles and call it swinging but if singles do it, then it's not swinging? Not trying to cause an issue, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. " Well because when a couple is seeking a single it's to form a trio, which fulfills that multiplicity element. Because (at least to me) swinging is a distinct category from two singles having sex which has its own category, it's a hook up. And there's nothing wrong with that, I love a hook up. I just don't consider it swinging. I guess it's also worth saying that probably the simplest way of saying it is that for me swinging cannot only include 2 people. No matter who they are. Or you're into saying that technically everyone who is sexually active is a swinger... | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. Where does it say that's what 'fab' means on here?" It doesn't. | |||
"100% agree . Swinging for us always was and always will be a very superficial hobby . Once it becomes more than this the problems start ." This is the one I'm going with. | |||
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"of course its superficial. The entire internet is superficial. Problems arise when people forget that" Also true. | |||
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"Definitely agree! x" And that's how it should be. | |||
"Agree or disagree? Superficial in what way? Based totally on looks, which it is. At least to start with, anyone who says different is talking shite. " Ah yes then. | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question So why is it OK for you to look for singles and call it swinging but if singles do it, then it's not swinging? Not trying to cause an issue, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. Well because when a couple is seeking a single it's to form a trio, which fulfills that multiplicity element. Because (at least to me) swinging is a distinct category from two singles having sex which has its own category, it's a hook up. And there's nothing wrong with that, I love a hook up. I just don't consider it swinging. I guess it's also worth saying that probably the simplest way of saying it is that for me swinging cannot only include 2 people. No matter who they are. Or you're into saying that technically everyone who is sexually active is a swinger... " Ah but you've got singles that enjoy orgies with other singles, I do agree that alot of single men in particular are just after an easy shag. However, I know plenty of singles who only want to play with singles that I do believe are swingers as they enjoy group sex, swingers clubs, swingers holidays etc. I don't think you can categorise someone as a swinger based on their relationship status. | |||
"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question So why is it OK for you to look for singles and call it swinging but if singles do it, then it's not swinging? Not trying to cause an issue, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. Well because when a couple is seeking a single it's to form a trio, which fulfills that multiplicity element. Because (at least to me) swinging is a distinct category from two singles having sex which has its own category, it's a hook up. And there's nothing wrong with that, I love a hook up. I just don't consider it swinging. I guess it's also worth saying that probably the simplest way of saying it is that for me swinging cannot only include 2 people. No matter who they are. Or you're into saying that technically everyone who is sexually active is a swinger... Ah but you've got singles that enjoy orgies with other singles, I do agree that alot of single men in particular are just after an easy shag. However, I know plenty of singles who only want to play with singles that I do believe are swingers as they enjoy group sex, swingers clubs, swingers holidays etc. I don't think you can categorise someone as a swinger based on their relationship status." Then I suppose we're talking around each others points rather than against them, I wouldn't be including singles who enjoy group sex or orgies etc. Only those who *exclusively* play with single people, one at a time. If you're participating in group sex of any sort, whether that group is 3 or 333, it's something I'd consider swinging. But 2 isn't a group, it's a pair. Apologies if that wasn't clear, but I did use the word exclusively in my original post | |||
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"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend " They might be a god or goddess to someone else though. | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend " I know I'm not much to look at. Hasn't stopped me having sex with some hot men though | |||
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"Hate to say it, but hugely agree. Not entirely sure that the majority of users are actually swingers either to be frank. They do things tangentially related to swinging, in line with some elements, but for a large number of profiles what they actually do bears no real resemblance to swinging That's because alot of people forget fab is called FAB for a reason...Friend And Benefits. Once folk realise that, they'll realise that no one is wasting anyone's time by using this site differently to actual swingers. ?? I’ve always wondered what ‘real swingers’ are ? I mean surely swinging is about fun and no one should feel pressured that the way they want to enjoy nsa fun is not deemed to be the right way ? Well I agree that noone should be pressured about the sex they have. Swinging however does have some fairly roughly defined definitions that a large number of profiles on here don't actually meet. That's not to say they should be stopped but nor should they pass off what they do as swinging. The majority of these are definitely the female profiles, though men probably do it as well. Most are single profiles (of either gender) exclusively seeking other singles. This isn't swinging, it's just Tinder with a less modern interface. As always, the maxim "you do you" applies here, not going to suggest we get our pitchforks out. But I stand by my statement, that's not swinging. What do you think swinging should be? It may just be my own personal beliefs on the matter and the previous poster made some good points. For me swinging is about multiplicity and this actually ties in with a discussion myself and L had recently where I said I was somewhat disenchanted with couples meets. This isn't to say that we have had bad meets, far from it the people we have met have been awesome, but all couples meets for us have been effectively wife swaps. Which is fine but it doesn't turn me on as much as it does for other people apparently. For me swinging is about that enjoyment of multiple people at the same time. Or sharing in your partner doing the same. Me simply sleeping with someone else's wife doesn't fulfill that, great sex though it can often be. Of course I'm not suggesting that MFMF meets aren't swinging, they absolutely are the classic and original definition. But when they are effectively just a wife swap they don't do as much for me as an FFM or even an MMF would. I don't know, you two have really got me thinking wider on this now. I definitely still don't feel that two people fucking can ever be swinging, nor does it need to be. But you are right, it's a very individual question So why is it OK for you to look for singles and call it swinging but if singles do it, then it's not swinging? Not trying to cause an issue, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. Well because when a couple is seeking a single it's to form a trio, which fulfills that multiplicity element. Because (at least to me) swinging is a distinct category from two singles having sex which has its own category, it's a hook up. And there's nothing wrong with that, I love a hook up. I just don't consider it swinging. I guess it's also worth saying that probably the simplest way of saying it is that for me swinging cannot only include 2 people. No matter who they are. Or you're into saying that technically everyone who is sexually active is a swinger... Ah but you've got singles that enjoy orgies with other singles, I do agree that alot of single men in particular are just after an easy shag. However, I know plenty of singles who only want to play with singles that I do believe are swingers as they enjoy group sex, swingers clubs, swingers holidays etc. I don't think you can categorise someone as a swinger based on their relationship status. Then I suppose we're talking around each others points rather than against them, I wouldn't be including singles who enjoy group sex or orgies etc. Only those who *exclusively* play with single people, one at a time. If you're participating in group sex of any sort, whether that group is 3 or 333, it's something I'd consider swinging. But 2 isn't a group, it's a pair. Apologies if that wasn't clear, but I did use the word exclusively in my original post" Ah apologies, I wasn't against anything you've said as such, more trying to find out your reasoning behind your views. Someone can exclusively seek singles but still engage in group sex with those singles. | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend They might be a god or goddess to someone else though." That does not give then a right to have ego or attitude though | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend I know I'm not much to look at. Hasn't stopped me having sex with some hot men though " Well if you do not have ego or attitude, all the power to you, may your hot shags long continue haha | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend They might be a god or goddess to someone else though. That does not give then a right to have ego or attitude though " Do you not think by saying you don't care who you offend that you might have the type of attitude you're annoyed by? | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend They might be a god or goddess to someone else though. That does not give then a right to have ego or attitude though Do you not think by saying you don't care who you offend that you might have the type of attitude you're annoyed by? " Not at all, just going by what I have witnessed multiple times on these forums. Basically witch hunts if people stick their necks out. I think people are scared to speak their opinions on here in the main. But I say it how it is sorry | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend They might be a god or goddess to someone else though. That does not give then a right to have ego or attitude though Do you not think by saying you don't care who you offend that you might have the type of attitude you're annoyed by? Not at all, just going by what I have witnessed multiple times on these forums. Basically witch hunts if people stick their necks out. I think people are scared to speak their opinions on here in the main. But I say it how it is sorry " No need to apologise. You need to take most of fab with a pinch of salt, don't take it too seriously and you'll find it much easier. | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend They might be a god or goddess to someone else though. That does not give then a right to have ego or attitude though Do you not think by saying you don't care who you offend that you might have the type of attitude you're annoyed by? Not at all, just going by what I have witnessed multiple times on these forums. Basically witch hunts if people stick their necks out. I think people are scared to speak their opinions on here in the main. But I say it how it is sorry No need to apologise. You need to take most of fab with a pinch of salt, don't take it too seriously and you'll find it much easier." Thanks I am not struggling though and I am already an old hand at taking things with a pinch of salt | |||
"I think there is massive amount of ego on this website, especially from people who are not exactly gods/ goddesses. Had to be said and not bothered who I offend They might be a god or goddess to someone else though. That does not give then a right to have ego or attitude though Do you not think by saying you don't care who you offend that you might have the type of attitude you're annoyed by? Not at all, just going by what I have witnessed multiple times on these forums. Basically witch hunts if people stick their necks out. I think people are scared to speak their opinions on here in the main. But I say it how it is sorry No need to apologise. You need to take most of fab with a pinch of salt, don't take it too seriously and you'll find it much easier. Thanks I am not struggling though and I am already an old hand at taking things with a pinch of salt " | |||
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"It depends on what you mean by superficial. Not the definition but the reason you are saying it. For example do you mean that it seems too good to be true but upon inspection a lot of it is fake? Or do you mean the people on here are only skin deep. Regardless of what swingers may think. If you are meeting a person based entirely on looks (which not everyone does) then you aren't going to find anything positive from this site. Other than a quick fuck. Which may work for some. I personally don't think that having any kind of sexual friendship can be based on superficial terms. There has to be something there. This however doesn't mean you want to marry someone or steal someone's partner it just means you're looking for something more.. I think maybe people have a warped view of swinging. And a lot of people I have met.. Mainly couples are probably the worst for the time wasting aspect. Don't really care if people agree or not that's been my experience. You go to a club and only the single people want to play. So maybe couples should consider what it is they really want and stop blaming the singles for all their problems " We’ve never blamed singles for anything , primarily because we never had any problems . You say people will never find anything positive from meeting people based on looks other than a quick fuck . And that certainly worked for us . We had a huge variation of what worked visually from petit to very large , and every ethnicity . But it was always about the look of someone . The warped view of swinging comes from people believing it has to be this , that of the other . It is what it is and it’s the superficiality that makes it such fun . No need for all the baggage that goes with more than that . But of course , that’s the view of a couple who have each other for the depth and meaningful side of sex and relationships . And , may I add , a couple who never wasted anyone’s time in the swinging scene . We played every time we went out , to a club or wherever we went when swinging . | |||
"Dunno. I just make it work for me. " Yeah this Everyone uses the site for what they need. Makes sense x | |||
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"Dunno. I just make it work for me. Yeah this Everyone uses the site for what they need. Makes sense x" Not much makes sense on here, but this does. | |||
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"Superficial? Probably. I just think you have to make the most of it, involve yourself in the parts you enjoy but ignore the rest. It works " | |||
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"Dunno. I just make it work for me. Yeah this Everyone uses the site for what they need. Makes sense x Not much makes sense on here, but this does." | |||
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