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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

Supply and demand. The ratio is biased towards women. Thus creates a distortion and can feed egos. Nothing new really.

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By *r.BlondeMan  over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Supply and demand. The ratio is biased towards women. Thus creates a distortion and can feed egos. Nothing new really. "
This exactly.

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By *nvercoupleCouple  over a year ago

Inverness

It's 2019. Women are the superior sex now. Thought everyone knew that?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A case of sour grapes OP...?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I used to think they were, then I realised they weren't really. It was me.. the way I felt.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"A case of sour grapes OP...?"

Definitely not, just asking the question.Looking at soo many profiles it kind of begs the question.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A case of sour grapes OP...?

Definitely not, just asking the question.Looking at soo many profiles it kind of begs the question. "

So what is it about these profiles that makes the woman look superior?

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

With everything being typed behind a pc with minimal chance of blowback, a lotta bullshit is gonna get slung especially if a bunk up is the motivation. Some of it will wash if the recipient chooses to believe it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho "
you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

That's what I am trying to get across, some ladies have over inflated egos and think they are superior. We are all here for almost the same thing..

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

It could just be that whilst most men would meet up quite rapidly with a woman but most women take time and have to find a fella really attractive in both looks and Sexually and personality then we need to feel a connection of sorts, then we like to be 100 % sure we are doing the right thing then we generally have a rethink then another and another and then go off the boil

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By *m389Man  over a year ago

Magherafelt

Some who have posted are definitely worth worshipping

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

It could just be that whilst most men would meet up quite rapidly with a woman but most women take time and have to find a fella really attractive in both looks and Sexually and personality then we need to feel a connection of sorts, then we like to be 100 % sure we are doing the right thing then we generally have a rethink then another and another and then go off the boil "

Completely understand, but do some really think they are really better then the rest of us..

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

It could just be that whilst most men would meet up quite rapidly with a woman but most women take time and have to find a fella really attractive in both looks and Sexually and personality then we need to feel a connection of sorts, then we like to be 100 % sure we are doing the right thing then we generally have a rethink then another and another and then go off the boil "

that's where you're all going wrong. Thinking ain't your strong point ladies. Teehee

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some who have posted are definitely worth worshipping "

And that's the problem right there...

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

It could just be that whilst most men would meet up quite rapidly with a woman but most women take time and have to find a fella really attractive in both looks and Sexually and personality then we need to feel a connection of sorts, then we like to be 100 % sure we are doing the right thing then we generally have a rethink then another and another and then go off the boil

Completely understand, but do some really think they are really better then the rest of us.. "

they have an inbox with 100s of messages. Its gonna be hard for em not to think of us as summat scraped off the bottom of their shoe! We know our place. Suggest you fall into line lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling "

Now careful not to feed my ego too much....

What am I saying??? As Billy idol says.... In the midnight hour she cries more, more, more

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling

Now careful not to feed my ego too much....

What am I saying??? As Billy idol says.... In the midnight hour she cries more, more, more "

phase one completed successfully. Now for phase two...treat em mean, keep em keen...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling

Now careful not to feed my ego too much....

What am I saying??? As Billy idol says.... In the midnight hour she cries more, more, more phase one completed successfully. Now for phase two...treat em mean, keep em keen... "

Doubt that will work... Ut good luck.

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

You're absolutely wrong in thinking that everyone is here for the same thing. The majority of single men here think it's just a site to find a quick shag. Women and couples tend to be more selective and enjoy the social scene as much as the sexual part.

Obviously there are exceptions but that's the general impression I've had of the site over the years I've used it.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling

Now careful not to feed my ego too much....

What am I saying??? As Billy idol says.... In the midnight hour she cries more, more, more phase one completed successfully. Now for phase two...treat em mean, keep em keen...

Doubt that will work... Ut good luck. "

ah bollocks. I've been implementing phase 2 for the best part of 20 years. I can't give up now. I've gone all in.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling

Now careful not to feed my ego too much....

What am I saying??? As Billy idol says.... In the midnight hour she cries more, more, more phase one completed successfully. Now for phase two...treat em mean, keep em keen...

Doubt that will work... Ut good luck. ah bollocks. I've been implementing phase 2 for the best part of 20 years. I can't give up now. I've gone all in. "

Hood for you, hope it's working...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's what I am trying to get across, some ladies have over inflated egos and think they are superior. We are all here for almost the same thing.. "

We’re soooo not here for the same thing.

Is it really superiority OP or maybe just women knowing their own sense of worth and not settling for any ole Tom, Dick or Harry who messages?

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho you are the most gorgeous woman on fab darling

Now careful not to feed my ego too much....

What am I saying??? As Billy idol says.... In the midnight hour she cries more, more, more phase one completed successfully. Now for phase two...treat em mean, keep em keen...

Doubt that will work... Ut good luck. ah bollocks. I've been implementing phase 2 for the best part of 20 years. I can't give up now. I've gone all in.

Hood for you, hope it's working... "

thanks mate. My hard work should bear fruit soon. Any day now...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

It could just be that whilst most men would meet up quite rapidly with a woman but most women take time and have to find a fella really attractive in both looks and Sexually and personality then we need to feel a connection of sorts, then we like to be 100 % sure we are doing the right thing then we generally have a rethink then another and another and then go off the boil "

Yes! Why is that so hard to figure out?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"That's what I am trying to get across, some ladies have over inflated egos and think they are superior. We are all here for almost the same thing..

We’re soooo not here for the same thing.

Is it really superiority OP or maybe just women knowing their own sense of worth and not settling for any ole Tom, Dick or Harry who messages?"

Not every Tom Dick or Harry, but we are all here for sex....

I get the sense of worth but there are ways and means to get that across...

I am a gent and when I message and get a reply and then reply to said reply then get ignored.... For reyi g..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

It could just be that whilst most men would meet up quite rapidly with a woman but most women take time and have to find a fella really attractive in both looks and Sexually and personality then we need to feel a connection of sorts, then we like to be 100 % sure we are doing the right thing then we generally have a rethink then another and another and then go off the boil

Yes! Why is that so hard to figure out?"

But as you say in your profile... Manners cost nothing, so if a polite reply is sent and nothing is returned, where are the manners...?

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

Internet dynamics... Its a war of attrition. Keep the faith.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Internet dynamics... Its a war of attrition. Keep the faith. "

Be strong man and keep fighting the good cause.. ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Supply and demand. The ratio is biased towards women. Thus creates a distortion and can feed egos. Nothing new really. This exactly. "

I am a woman’s woman and don’t generally knock my fellow sisters. Although....

I have played off and on for years and even I as a card carrying feminist have experienced this. You see it in clubs and it is much more than self respect or ‘empowerment’ even I sometimes wanna just say ‘get over yourself love’’ Its not attractive and rarther boring.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Supply and demand. The ratio is biased towards women. Thus creates a distortion and can feed egos. Nothing new really. This exactly.

I am a woman’s woman and don’t generally knock my fellow sisters. Although....

I have played off and on for years and even I as a card carrying feminist have experienced this. You see it in clubs and it is much more than self respect or ‘empowerment’ even I sometimes wanna just say ‘get over yourself love’’ Its not attractive and rarther boring. "

That's the reply I was after..

Your profile is honest and genuine and that's what I like. You are open to all but selective as well..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Supply and demand. The ratio is biased towards women. Thus creates a distortion and can feed egos. Nothing new really. This exactly.

I am a woman’s woman and don’t generally knock my fellow sisters. Although....

I have played off and on for years and even I as a card carrying feminist have experienced this. You see it in clubs and it is much more than self respect or ‘empowerment’ even I sometimes wanna just say ‘get over yourself love’’ Its not attractive and rarther boring.

That's the reply I was after..

Your profile is honest and genuine and that's what I like. You are open to all but selective as well.. "

Dam!! I have only gone and empowered the patriarchy Thanks for the compliments.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Supply and demand. The ratio is biased towards women. Thus creates a distortion and can feed egos. Nothing new really. This exactly.

I am a woman’s woman and don’t generally knock my fellow sisters. Although....

I have played off and on for years and even I as a card carrying feminist have experienced this. You see it in clubs and it is much more than self respect or ‘empowerment’ even I sometimes wanna just say ‘get over yourself love’’ Its not attractive and rarther boring.

That's the reply I was after..

Your profile is honest and genuine and that's what I like. You are open to all but selective as well..

Dam!! I have only gone and empowered the patriarchy Thanks for the compliments. "

It's a pleasure.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea

Want my advice ?

Don’t feel irritated angry or upset or frustrated I don’t know if you feel those feelings but if you are please don’t

The chances of meeting people of here for a man are incredibly low, it’s not that woman have big egos or are superior, no one here is more superior to another they just are in demand and unfortunately you will not be, I know that feels unfair but it’s not really it’s just the way it is. keep trying if you so wish but don’t feel anything in fact In your shoes I wouldn’t bother tbh it could be a complete waste of your precious time but you might get lucky one day who knows? Just take it like a pinch of salt either enjoy the site for the pics and stories but be prepared it’s likely to be a huge disappointment in finding women

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "
Does the same go for the superior men as well

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. Does the same go for the superior men as well "

Sure does, but I feel there are more women.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" Want my advice ?

Don’t feel irritated angry or upset or frustrated I don’t know if you feel those feelings but if you are please don’t

The chances of meeting people of here for a man are incredibly low, it’s not that woman have big egos or are superior, no one here is more superior to another they just are in demand and unfortunately you will not be, I know that feels unfair but it’s not really it’s just the way it is. keep trying if you so wish but don’t feel anything in fact In your shoes I wouldn’t bother tbh it could be a complete waste of your precious time but you might get lucky one day who knows? Just take it like a pinch of salt either enjoy the site for the pics and stories but be prepared it’s likely to be a huge disappointment in finding women "

You are right, been here for a few months, tried various polite different things... And nothing

I have 2 days left of my paid sevice.. Then I am gone. There is more to life than trying soo hard to get noticed...

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea


" Want my advice ?

Don’t feel irritated angry or upset or frustrated I don’t know if you feel those feelings but if you are please don’t

The chances of meeting people of here for a man are incredibly low, it’s not that woman have big egos or are superior, no one here is more superior to another they just are in demand and unfortunately you will not be, I know that feels unfair but it’s not really it’s just the way it is. keep trying if you so wish but don’t feel anything in fact In your shoes I wouldn’t bother tbh it could be a complete waste of your precious time but you might get lucky one day who knows? Just take it like a pinch of salt either enjoy the site for the pics and stories but be prepared it’s likely to be a huge disappointment in finding women

You are right, been here for a few months, tried various polite different things... And nothing

I have 2 days left of my paid sevice.. Then I am gone. There is more to life than trying soo hard to get noticed... "

Very sensible, enjoy your new spare time

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


" Want my advice ?

Don’t feel irritated angry or upset or frustrated I don’t know if you feel those feelings but if you are please don’t

The chances of meeting people of here for a man are incredibly low, it’s not that woman have big egos or are superior, no one here is more superior to another they just are in demand and unfortunately you will not be, I know that feels unfair but it’s not really it’s just the way it is. keep trying if you so wish but don’t feel anything in fact In your shoes I wouldn’t bother tbh it could be a complete waste of your precious time but you might get lucky one day who knows? Just take it like a pinch of salt either enjoy the site for the pics and stories but be prepared it’s likely to be a huge disappointment in finding women

You are right, been here for a few months, tried various polite different things... And nothing

I have 2 days left of my paid sevice.. Then I am gone. There is more to life than trying soo hard to get noticed...

Very sensible, enjoy your new spare time "

I sure am..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But, what if they are superior and you can't see it?

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. Does the same go for the superior men as well

Sure does, but I feel there are more women. "

True but some of the superior men with inflated egos think every woman should just drop their draws

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Going to be much easier paying for it...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to be much easier paying for it... "

But they won't be as enthusiastic and they will clock watch.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me.

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Going to be much easier paying for it...

But they won't be as enthusiastic and they will clock watch.

"

lol x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Going to be much easier paying for it...

But they won't be as enthusiastic and they will clock watch.

"

I'll never know....

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me. "

You have only been here for four months , give it chance

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea


"Going to be much easier paying for it... "

Much easier but costly

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me. You have only been here for four months , give it chance"

But with no veris and no interest, why pursue..

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

In time you will see that the sex is pretty much a bonus for most of us. Chat and banter is the main thing occupying us.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Going to be much easier paying for it...

Much easier but costly "

Sure is..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In time you will see that the sex is pretty much a bonus for most of us. Chat and banter is the main thing occupying us. "

That's good, but I would like to at least have some sex....

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me. You have only been here for four months , give it chance

But with no veris and no interest, why pursue..

"

Go to a club or a social and get verified

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea


"In time you will see that the sex is pretty much a bonus for most of us. Chat and banter is the main thing occupying us. "

the way to go loads have met on the forums and chat rooms, personality’s always show on fab

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me. You have only been here for four months , give it chance

But with no veris and no interest, why pursue..

Go to a club or a social and get verified "

I'm a bit shy and nervous to go to a club by myself, will be keen to go with a couple to see how it works.

I've tried a social, but none are keen.

Thanks for having an I tetest..

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"In time you will see that the sex is pretty much a bonus for most of us. Chat and banter is the main thing occupying us.

the way to go loads have met on the forums and chat rooms, personality’s always show on fab"

that's what im afraid of. I think i make a tit of myself at times. But its fun so i ain't gonna stop! Bahaha

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea


"In time you will see that the sex is pretty much a bonus for most of us. Chat and banter is the main thing occupying us.

the way to go loads have met on the forums and chat rooms, personality’s always show on fabthat's what im afraid of. I think i make a tit of myself at times. But its fun so i ain't gonna stop! Bahaha"

Lol quite right

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

There are a minority of women on here ( and in life in general ) who think they are God's gift, and maybe even think are superior beings to most men ( and most women )..and that's their right. Just as it's their right ( and your right and the right of every person ) to sleep with whoever they want, as long as there's MUTUAL attraction and consent. The majority of women on here probably do get an ego boost by having their pics admired / complimented, and is there really anything wrong in that ? You can look (at all) but you can't ( and never will ) touch ( 99.99 %)..that's life in this lifestyle as much as it is outside of it, and that's what seperates us from a dozen dogs in a park nuzzling one bitch.

Would you honestly want to sleep with one of the tiny minority who thinks you're below them ??? I know it ould be a major turn off for me.

I seriously wouldn't take this place too seriously, and I certainly wouldn't make the mistake that most ( if any ) women on here think's or should think that 'Any Pole is a Goal'.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

There are a minority of women on here ( and in life in general ) who think they are God's gift, and maybe even think are superior beings to most men ( and most women )..and that's their right. Just as it's their right ( and your right and the right of every person ) to sleep with whoever they want, as long as there's MUTUAL attraction and consent. The majority of women on here probably do get an ego boost by having their pics admired / complimented, and is there really anything wrong in that ? You can look (at all) but you can't ( and never will ) touch ( 99.99 %)..that's life in this lifestyle as much as it is outside of it, and that's what seperates us from a dozen dogs in a park nuzzling one bitch.

Would you honestly want to sleep with one of the tiny minority who thinks you're below them ??? I know it ould be a major turn off for me.

I seriously wouldn't take this place too seriously, and I certainly wouldn't make the mistake that most ( if any ) women on here think's or should think that 'Any Pole is a Goal'."

thanks for this.

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york

Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the night

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By *m389Man  over a year ago

Magherafelt

The forum here is very unique. Nowhere else can you find unfiltered entertaining nonsense except maybe on 4chan but you don’t want to go near that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the night"

I get it, but not sure I could go as Billy with no mates....

I am keen to visit with no expectations just to see what it's all about..

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the night"
all good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude. "

I get that, but I am happy to go and just watch and take it all in.. Just to see. But feel embarrassed to go on my own and just watch...

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude. "
I must be lucky i have never met anybody with any expectation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In time you will see that the sex is pretty much a bonus for most of us. Chat and banter is the main thing occupying us. "

That can be said for women too.

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude.

I get that, but I am happy to go and just watch and take it all in.. Just to see. But feel embarrassed to go on my own and just watch... "

just give it a try you have nothing to loose

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude.

I get that, but I am happy to go and just watch and take it all in.. Just to see. But feel embarrassed to go on my own and just watch... just give it a try you have nothing to loose"

Havig never been before.. Is it not awkward for a single chap to just hang around and watch??

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude. I must be lucky i have never met anybody with any expectation "
you haven't been and seen rows of single men trailing women and couples like a row of lemmings?? Its a thin line between hope and expectation.

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude.

I get that, but I am happy to go and just watch and take it all in.. Just to see. But feel embarrassed to go on my own and just watch... just give it a try you have nothing to loose

Havig never been before.. Is it not awkward for a single chap to just hang around and watch?? "

Read up on club rules a lot of clubs have veiwing rooms for people who like to be watched

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan  over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude.

I get that, but I am happy to go and just watch and take it all in.. Just to see. But feel embarrassed to go on my own and just watch... just give it a try you have nothing to loose

Havig never been before.. Is it not awkward for a single chap to just hang around and watch?? "

probably depends on your personality. I'd find it awkward as hell personally but I'm not the most comfortable around these types of unfamiliar situations by myself.

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By *tarbeckCouple  over a year ago

york


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the nightall good in theory. I think many guys would go in with some form of expectation naturally which is hard to suppress. If a person witnesses other people having fun and we are not that would probably compound matters. In an ideal world we would all be able to go with a chilled out attitude. I must be lucky i have never met anybody with any expectation you haven't been and seen rows of single men trailing women and couples like a row of lemmings?? Its a thin line between hope and expectation. "
Must be the bad vibe i give of then

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By *amsay BoltonMan  over a year ago

Motherwell

Coz they can dude. Simple.

We aw know the women on here run the show and sum act up to it. Why moan abt the 1s that do an no just focus on the ones that don’t.

To many folk take their online lives way too serious. A knock back fae a stranger I’ll never meet is like water aff a ducks arse tae me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

Because they're not here to provide a service to anyone who asks?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me. "

If you read the site FAQ’s it mentions that No Reply = a No Thank You, so it’s not being rude in the sense of this site.

Blocking means they’re not interested, also saves you messaging them again by mistake wasting your time.

As others have said it takes time & effort, join in the Forums / Chat Rooms they’re good ways of getting noticed and engaging with people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's what I am trying to get across, some ladies have over inflated egos and think they are superior. We are all here for almost the same thing.. "

Some do, most don't Not wanting to meet or fuck someone does not indicate over inflated egos or a sense of superiority...it just means they don't want to fuck someone

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Kneel before me you unworthy men!

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By *heHookyMonsterMan  over a year ago

Coventry

This is a really interesting one and confusing to some of us men. I've always been for equality in everything and often struggled to understand as to why women are often paid less for doing the same job for instance - and in effect its sometimes the reverse that happens on here, with the supply and demand balance creating a kind of reverse sexism, which most of us blokes aren't used to coming up against. Have to admit it can be frustrating and upsetting on occasion, but as someone has already said it only exists if you allow it to in your own head. I'm just an ordinary fella so it does occasionally creep in, but for the most part I try to keep it in perspective. If a woman does display an arrogance in her 'demands' and it irritates then it's probably a pass and move on, in exactly the same way as a woman would with an arrogant male. Don't over think it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Kneel before me you unworthy men! "

Yes your highness

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By *ibblingnewtWoman  over a year ago

by the sea


"This is a really interesting one and confusing to some of us men. I've always been for equality in everything and often struggled to understand as to why women are often paid less for doing the same job for instance - and in effect its sometimes the reverse that happens on here, with the supply and demand balance creating a kind of reverse sexism, which most of us blokes aren't used to coming up against. Have to admit it can be frustrating and upsetting on occasion, but as someone has already said it only exists if you allow it to in your own head. I'm just an ordinary fella so it does occasionally creep in, but for the most part I try to keep it in perspective. If a woman does display an arrogance in her 'demands' and it irritates then it's probably a pass and move on, in exactly the same way as a woman would with an arrogant male. Don't over think it. "
spot on and men can always use the block button too

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By *eah BabyCouple  over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

You probably find some women think they are superior as you guys make them feel that way, you can tell by some of the posts on here, treat them as an equal and if they don’t treat you the same move on

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By *.H.SMan  over a year ago

London

Ignorance is rife concerning some ladies. Tbh leave it alone shallow petty ways is there most of there ways and remain that way like Calvin Klein for eternity lol

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By *heHookyMonsterMan  over a year ago

Coventry


"You probably find some women think they are superior as you guys make them feel that way, you can tell by some of the posts on here, treat them as an equal and if they don’t treat you the same move on "

Couldn't have put it better myself!

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By *heHookyMonsterMan  over a year ago

Coventry

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By *heHookyMonsterMan  over a year ago

Coventry


"This is a really interesting one and confusing to some of us men. I've always been for equality in everything and often struggled to understand as to why women are often paid less for doing the same job for instance - and in effect its sometimes the reverse that happens on here, with the supply and demand balance creating a kind of reverse sexism, which most of us blokes aren't used to coming up against. Have to admit it can be frustrating and upsetting on occasion, but as someone has already said it only exists if you allow it to in your own head. I'm just an ordinary fella so it does occasionally creep in, but for the most part I try to keep it in perspective. If a woman does display an arrogance in her 'demands' and it irritates then it's probably a pass and move on, in exactly the same way as a woman would with an arrogant male. Don't over think it. spot on and men can always use the block button too "

Thank you! x

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By *.H.SMan  over a year ago

London

Adults suppose to convey mature and intelligence when needed. Please take out the air pump attached to your craniums.....or else would fit through the door on the way out lol not all some women

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By *andare63Man  over a year ago

oldham


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho "

Absolutely,,, and can I add how stunning you look

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By *.H.SMan  over a year ago

London

Looool thanks for the compliment my dear gentleman

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hey OP a bit late I know but I have been on fab for a long time I've had no meet and very rarely get a reply. But when I do its fun to chat And taking part in the forums is always good fun. Like some one said before check out the pictures and just keep trying. Good luck and chin up.

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By *aughty_nymphWoman  over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

There are a minority of women on here ( and in life in general ) who think they are God's gift, and maybe even think are superior beings to most men ( and most women )..and that's their right. Just as it's their right ( and your right and the right of every person ) to sleep with whoever they want, as long as there's MUTUAL attraction and consent. The majority of women on here probably do get an ego boost by having their pics admired / complimented, and is there really anything wrong in that ? You can look (at all) but you can't ( and never will ) touch ( 99.99 %)..that's life in this lifestyle as much as it is outside of it, and that's what seperates us from a dozen dogs in a park nuzzling one bitch.

Would you honestly want to sleep with one of the tiny minority who thinks you're below them ??? I know it ould be a major turn off for me.

I seriously wouldn't take this place too seriously, and I certainly wouldn't make the mistake that most ( if any ) women on here think's or should think that 'Any Pole is a Goal'."

I’ve been told many times my profile is blunt and I’m up myself, but if you read my veris im really not!

I know my worth BUT I’m not arrogant. For me to meet someone, I have to be attracted to them physically and mentally. Not too much to ask yes I have a very specific type and in the past when I’ve made compromises, the sex (the reason we are all here!) has been not very good.

So I’d rather stick to my “high standards”, be fussy and have good sex

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

There are a minority of women on here ( and in life in general ) who think they are God's gift, and maybe even think are superior beings to most men ( and most women )..and that's their right. Just as it's their right ( and your right and the right of every person ) to sleep with whoever they want, as long as there's MUTUAL attraction and consent. The majority of women on here probably do get an ego boost by having their pics admired / complimented, and is there really anything wrong in that ? You can look (at all) but you can't ( and never will ) touch ( 99.99 %)..that's life in this lifestyle as much as it is outside of it, and that's what seperates us from a dozen dogs in a park nuzzling one bitch.

Would you honestly want to sleep with one of the tiny minority who thinks you're below them ??? I know it ould be a major turn off for me.

I seriously wouldn't take this place too seriously, and I certainly wouldn't make the mistake that most ( if any ) women on here think's or should think that 'Any Pole is a Goal'.

I’ve been told many times my profile is blunt and I’m up myself, but if you read my veris im really not!

I know my worth BUT I’m not arrogant. For me to meet someone, I have to be attracted to them physically and mentally. Not too much to ask yes I have a very specific type and in the past when I’ve made compromises, the sex (the reason we are all here!) has been not very good.

So I’d rather stick to my “high standards”, be fussy and have good sex "

Nothing wrong at all with knowing what you want

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By *aughty_nymphWoman  over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

There are a minority of women on here ( and in life in general ) who think they are God's gift, and maybe even think are superior beings to most men ( and most women )..and that's their right. Just as it's their right ( and your right and the right of every person ) to sleep with whoever they want, as long as there's MUTUAL attraction and consent. The majority of women on here probably do get an ego boost by having their pics admired / complimented, and is there really anything wrong in that ? You can look (at all) but you can't ( and never will ) touch ( 99.99 %)..that's life in this lifestyle as much as it is outside of it, and that's what seperates us from a dozen dogs in a park nuzzling one bitch.

Would you honestly want to sleep with one of the tiny minority who thinks you're below them ??? I know it ould be a major turn off for me.

I seriously wouldn't take this place too seriously, and I certainly wouldn't make the mistake that most ( if any ) women on here think's or should think that 'Any Pole is a Goal'.

I’ve been told many times my profile is blunt and I’m up myself, but if you read my veris im really not!

I know my worth BUT I’m not arrogant. For me to meet someone, I have to be attracted to them physically and mentally. Not too much to ask yes I have a very specific type and in the past when I’ve made compromises, the sex (the reason we are all here!) has been not very good.

So I’d rather stick to my “high standards”, be fussy and have good sex

Nothing wrong at all with knowing what you want "

It’s usually the people who message that know they’re not my type but try anyway that throw the strop when I say they’re not my type lol

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By *.H.SMan  over a year ago

London

try to fail don’t fail to try lol

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I have no inflated ego I just know I'm superior!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

We all have our own tastes and fab isn’t necessarily about meeting your everyday man it’s about fulfilling fantasies and pushing boundaries and if I want to play out of my league then I will if it gives me an ego boost and makes me feel good about myself I will, if it gives me a false sense of self then that’s my problem, I’m pretty sure there are lots of women’s profiles you scroll past and thing no chance ! It’s about time more women felt better about themselves it’s long overdue

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Many ladies on here with delusions of grandeur definitely. Many ladies on here who probably couldn't pull in the real world on here also who get smothered with attention by many guys, partly due to sheer ratio. Does it affect their behaviour? Sometimes yes. It can make us ladies a tad fussy and perhaps this same fussiness can come over as arrogance.

It's a woman's world on here... Just saying

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By *.H.SMan  over a year ago

London

Very good point indeed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Many ladies on here with delusions of grandeur definitely. Many ladies on here who probably couldn't pull in the real world on here also who get smothered with attention by many guys, partly due to sheer ratio. Does it affect their behaviour? Sometimes yes. It can make us ladies a tad fussy and perhaps this same fussiness can come over as arrogance.

It's a woman's world on here... Just saying"

Just for the record I have no delusions of grandeur, can easily pull in the real world, even in my 50s! And I don't consider myself superior in any way

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By *.H.SMan  over a year ago

London

That’s confidence not arrogance

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman  over a year ago

Victoria, London

I've been swinging for over 10 years, and these days much, much more picky as to who i'll play with. Not being superior, but feed up of idiots, guys lying that they are single and I don't like doing the dirty on a fellow woman. yes here for sex, but need mental stimulation, it's been over a year since my last meet because I can't find anyone who can connect with me. not being superior, just not putting up with superficial crap anymore.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I think part of the problem is that people lose a sense of reality and have false perceptions and incorrectly set expectations of the site as a result.

It's true that there are *some* people (of both genders) who have an air of superiority about them, but as someone else said they're in a minority, and that's no different from life outside of Fab - you get the whole range of character types here, just as you do in life, but people lose sight of that and think because it's a "sex site" we're all here for the same thing and leave our inhibitions and sensibilities at the door, which couldn't be further from the truth.

That leads to an element of using various reasons, including the superiority thing, as something to blame when the site doesn't meet expectations, rather than looking closer to home for the actual reasons and adjusting expectations accordingly.

Quite often on threads like this the imbalance between men and women on the site is rolled out as a reason for "lack of success", "women's egos getting over inflated" etc - and yes it's true that there is a huge imbalance between men and women when you look at actual physical numbers - however if you take out all the men with incorrectly set expectations, attitude and approach to the site, who don't "get" how it works and think they merely have to join to get a meet, then the imbalance isn't quite so great.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's what I am trying to get across, some ladies have over inflated egos and think they are superior. We are all here for almost the same thing..

We’re soooo not here for the same thing.

Is it really superiority OP or maybe just women knowing their own sense of worth and not settling for any ole Tom, Dick or Harry who messages?"

Absolutely this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also, when faced with a massive selection of chocolate bars in the shop, you would automatically take your time knowing that you could have any of them and so only choose the best one.

The chocolate bars however, all have to fight like mad to entice the few people looking at them and so adopt a more ‘willing’ attitude to go with any person in front of them.

If that makes sense then I’m amazed....when I first started typing I knew where I was going with it, but by the end I was just glad to get it finished

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By *heHookyMonsterMan  over a year ago

Coventry


"Also, when faced with a massive selection of chocolate bars in the shop, you would automatically take your time knowing that you could have any of them and so only choose the best one.

The chocolate bars however, all have to fight like mad to entice the few people looking at them and so adopt a more ‘willing’ attitude to go with any person in front of them.

If that makes sense then I’m amazed....when I first started typing I knew where I was going with it, but by the end I was just glad to get it finished "

LOL! Love it! It's correct though and a great analogy!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Superior women are my THANG!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho "

This is so true lol x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "
choice ......they don't like your tone you're out ,they don't like your pics you're out ,they don't like your messages you're out ,they don't like your username you're out ,they don't like your profile write up you're out ,get everything right and you're in

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yeh, Yeh Yeh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

Tbh there are a lot of guys on here with super inflated egos who throw the worst chat at you and expect you to fall to your knees straight away. Is it not down to a good connection, chat, attraction and similar interests that will go a long way on here. Big egos get you nowhere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

Tbh there are a lot of guys on here with super inflated egos who throw the worst chat at you and expect you to fall to your knees straight away. Is it not down to a good connection, chat, attraction and similar interests that will go a long way on here. Big egos get you nowhere. "

exactly this ,personality gets you everywhere

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason.

Tbh there are a lot of guys on here with super inflated egos who throw the worst chat at you and expect you to fall to your knees straight away. Is it not down to a good connection, chat, attraction and similar interests that will go a long way on here. Big egos get you nowhere. "

but women with big egos here and men with big egos slightly different as in women can afford to be egotistical because they have choice

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By *electableDalliancesCouple  over a year ago

leeds

Everyone at a dealership is looking for a car, some are happy with a fiat panda with furry seat covers, some are after a luxurious Lexus with smooth leather and heated seats.

It’s just about finding the person that wants what your offering regardless of numbers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everyone at a dealership is looking for a car, some are happy with a fiat panda with furry seat covers, some are after a luxurious Lexus with smooth leather and heated seats.

It’s just about finding the person that wants what your offering regardless of numbers. "

Can I have some ample sized fun bags .. oops I mean air bags

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By *electableDalliancesCouple  over a year ago

leeds


"Everyone at a dealership is looking for a car, some are happy with a fiat panda with furry seat covers, some are after a luxurious Lexus with smooth leather and heated seats.

It’s just about finding the person that wants what your offering regardless of numbers.

Can I have some ample sized fun bags .. oops I mean air bags

"

The beauty of FAB is that’s its all here , whatever floats your boat

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By *omesticated_VixenWoman  over a year ago

sw London


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the night

I get it, but not sure I could go as Billy with no mates....

I am keen to visit with no expectations just to see what it's all about.. "

I find meeting new people at clubs is a great way, not everyone can get their personality across well in text, I've met and had fun with a few people who's profile I may not have given a second look on here.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan  over a year ago

Coventry


"Think of going to a club as going for a night out , mix in the social area with no pressure to do anything apart from to enjoy the night

I get it, but not sure I could go as Billy with no mates....

I am keen to visit with no expectations just to see what it's all about..

I find meeting new people at clubs is a great way, not everyone can get their personality across well in text, I've met and had fun with a few people who's profile I may not have given a second look on here. "

So true - almost everyone I've connected with has been via organised socials and club meets.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope I'm not superior because there are loads of men here. The world is 50/50 but men still lord it over women so your logic goes out of the window.

I know my worth and it doesn't change based on anyone elses ability to see it.

I also am not obliged to recognise anyone elses worth. I treat everyone with basic respect. That does not mean I have to respond to anyone's messages or have sex with them.

Once you get your head around this you won't feel so incompetent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Also, when faced with a massive selection of chocolate bars in the shop, you would automatically take your time knowing that you could have any of them and so only choose the best one.

The chocolate bars however, all have to fight like mad to entice the few people looking at them and so adopt a more ‘willing’ attitude to go with any person in front of them.

If that makes sense then I’m amazed....when I first started typing I knew where I was going with it, but by the end I was just glad to get it finished "

I like the chocolate I like. If I was faced with varying chocolates of which I liked none, I wouldn't have chocolate. I wouldn't go for the least hated one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope im no better than others

I treat people equally if your a cock your one no matter female or male, black , white or pink and blue spots

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By *isstinseltoesWoman  over a year ago

Calderdale innit


"I do believe that some woman have over inflated egos. However it's the men on here that feed that ego so hey ho "

This

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Try living on a tiny island !!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just trying to understand something. I get there are more males than females on here,but do some women think they are untouchable to the common man and why? What makes the different than anyone else, as we are all here for the same reason. "

People are not all here for the same reason some are here to cheat some here to form relationships.

I don't think they think they are untouchable most have a good sound vision of reality and the reality here is they can pick and choose and if that dosn't suit you then there is little you can do about it.

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By *arry WindsorMan  over a year ago

Heaton Park Manchester


"I find the swing g scene very intriguing.... But it's not goi g to happen for me..

There are some very sexy ladies on here, but even saying hello with a face picture you get blocked ignored...

Not for me. You have only been here for four months , give it chance

But with no veris and no interest, why pursue..

Go to a club or a social and get verified "

then come back on here and still get ignored .... it makes no difference at all if you have veris or not.

I do much better in the real world than on here. I'm only on here because I hate facebook!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Fab world is so removed from real life, get used to

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I like to be treated like a person and not just a convenient hole for cock and/or abuse. Apparently I have ideas above my station and should get over myself

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By *he Cheeky GirlsCouple (FF)  over a year ago

Dover and Benidorm


"Fab world is so removed from real life, get used to "

Totally agree, some on here think their the cat's whiskers, but in the real world wouldn't get a second glance.

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By *ampshirehotwifeWoman  over a year ago

Hampshire


"Fab world is so removed from real life, get used to

Totally agree, some on here think their the cat's whiskers, but in the real world wouldn't get a second glance. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I used to think they were, then I realised they weren't really. It was me.. the way I felt."

they really are not,lol its funny they think they are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ho please you better bow down on both knees...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm not here for the same reason therefore I am superior. Hope this helps op?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ho please you better bow down on both knees..."

no,,, you don't have a cock so im not getting down on my knees

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think a lot of men here don't appreciate the difference between "I don't want to meet you" and "I think I'm better than you". You might be the best person in the world! ... but not suitable for me.

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By *ucky88oMan  over a year ago

london

All hail the superior sex...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All hail the superior sex..."

This guy gets it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP, I have to be honest, I didn't read the whole thread. But from your responses that I did read, you come across as if you thought this site would be easy pickings, as everyone is here for sex. That is very far from the truth. People are on here for a variety of reasons, and just because you don't get replies to your messages it doesn't mean the women are superior. It only means you did not manage to catch their attention through your profile/pictures/message. If you check FAQ section, it states clearly that no reply means 'no, thank you'.

Also, just the fact that you are the site supporter doesn't mean anyone owes you anything. So either man up, look at your profile and how you word your messages, try and make yourself stand out from thousands of other men, or just leave, try your luck elsewhere. But I guess you're come across 'superior' women anywhere. Good luck

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By *ucky88oMan  over a year ago

london


"All hail the superior sex...

This guy gets it"

Thank You. I am aware of my inferoity

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