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"Denial, any holes a goal or playing both ends against the middle As a portion of women wont meet bi guys they figure having straight on their profile will help " Really? I have no objections when it comes to meeting bi guys. | |||
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"Surely if a 'straight' guy is meeting/wanting to meet tv/ts this doesn't make him straight...denial? " Yeah it doesn't but Fab doesn't like applying common sense  | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. " No, this is wishful thinking sorry. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. No, this is wishful thinking sorry." Wishful thinking? | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. No, this is wishful thinking sorry. Wishful thinking? " Pleasing to imagine but lacking in evidence, rationality, or reality. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. No, this is wishful thinking sorry. Wishful thinking? Pleasing to imagine but lacking in evidence, rationality, or reality. " Well that makes no sense as this is my reality and experiences. I've lived and breathed this. And i think i explained it in quite a bit of detail to help people see another side from another persons perspective. | |||
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"Denial, any holes a goal or playing both ends against the middle As a portion of women wont meet bi guys they figure having straight on their profile will help Really? I have no objections when it comes to meeting bi guys." No one should object to meeting you x | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. No, this is wishful thinking sorry." It sounded like one of those self-justification messages that got well into "doth protest too much" territory. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. No, this is wishful thinking sorry. Wishful thinking? Pleasing to imagine but lacking in evidence, rationality, or reality. Well that makes no sense as this is my reality and experiences. I've lived and breathed this. And i think i explained it in quite a bit of detail to help people see another side from another persons perspective. " We can agree to disagree. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol" So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? | |||
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"Someone's clearly confused " If anything i have explained in great detail and shown that i am far from confused and know exactly what i like and don't like. And now you have just gone down the road of saying i'm confused instead of answering. lol Guess we will have to agree to disagree. I was just trying to highlight that not everything is clear black and white and give a different perspective. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? " Only men have penises though. | |||
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"Someone's clearly confused If anything i have explained in great detail and shown that i am far from confused and know exactly what i like and don't like. And now you have just gone down the road of saying i'm confused instead of answering. lol Guess we will have to agree to disagree. I was just trying to highlight that not everything is clear black and white and give a different perspective. " I guess we will. I obviously don't understand the whole gay/straight/bi thing. Each to their own. I was just curious about it all. | |||
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"Only men have penises though. "  | |||
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"I've absolutely nothing against it just don't understand why people try and hide it." Not everything is clear black and white. Million and one reasons why some may hide it. Me personally i don't care and am very open about what i like and don't. Not everyone is the same. I can see why some would hide it as they may feel ashamed, embarrassed, scared, maybe they don't see things the same way you do and see themselves a different way. Example. I had my first male/male experience with my best friend growing up. He would get super horny but then the second he finished cumming he felt ashamed and disgusted with himself. Yet he would want to do it again on another day and repeat the whole process. He would never admit to liking it as is now married with 3 kids. He also told me never to tell anyone. Where as here i am admitting exactly what i'm into and every knows and i don't give 2 shiny shits who knows. Everyone's different. Each to his own and all that. | |||
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"I've absolutely nothing against it just don't understand why people try and hide it." I think ahubnwife summed it up perfectly for you, spot on explanation | |||
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"Sexuality is a spectrum rather than a neat little box that people slot into (pardon the pun), different people draw different lines on this spectrum and therefore identify themselves as one particular thing. Labels are so unnecessary in this instance. I've take the live and let live view, if they want to, have at it, they don't have to attach a label to it. " It matters if it is changing the definition of things. A label is a classifying phrase which is accurate. | |||
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" Only men have penises though. " But don't they say that TV and TS people are born in the wrong body and are really female. The genes mixed up a bit and gave them a winky. Like how men are born with nipples and all men have that line between their balls and bum hole which was actually the start of a vagina when forming in the womb. The gooch! lol And a bumhole is a bumhole isn't it? | |||
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"Sexuality is a spectrum rather than a neat little box that people slot into (pardon the pun), different people draw different lines on this spectrum and therefore identify themselves as one particular thing. Labels are so unnecessary in this instance. I've take the live and let live view, if they want to, have at it, they don't have to attach a label to it. " Same. I don't understand or really agree with labeling people. | |||
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" Only men have penises though. But don't they say that TV and TS people are born in the wrong body and are really female. The genes mixed up a bit and gave them a winky. Like how men are born with nipples and all men have that line between their balls and bum hole which was actually the start of a vagina when forming in the womb. The gooch! lol And a bumhole is a bumhole isn't it? " Very few people are actually born intersex. They're XX chromosome. Ironically the only XY they have is in their sperm. | |||
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"If any straight guys want their cock sucking, I'll oblige "Wish I could jump at the chance. | |||
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"I've absolutely nothing against it just don't understand why people try and hide it. Not everything is clear black and white. Million and one reasons why some may hide it. Me personally i don't care and am very open about what i like and don't. Not everyone is the same. I can see why some would hide it as they may feel ashamed, embarrassed, scared, maybe they don't see things the same way you do and see themselves a different way. Example. I had my first male/male experience with my best friend growing up. He would get super horny but then the second he finished cumming he felt ashamed and disgusted with himself. Yet he would want to do it again on another day and repeat the whole process. He would never admit to liking it as is now married with 3 kids. He also told me never to tell anyone. Where as here i am admitting exactly what i'm into and every knows and i don't give 2 shiny shits who knows. Everyone's different. Each to his own and all that. " Did your friend dress? | |||
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"You are one of the enlightened then There is still something of the taboo about men being bi whereas bi women not so much of a problem I’m still on your naughty list for being a smoker though "Smoking is a filthy, unhealthy habit. | |||
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"Many of us girls love bisexual men (in pairs!) x" Or threesome?? | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Only men have penises though. " Hetero-romantic Bisexual | |||
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"Denial, any holes a goal or playing both ends against the middle As a portion of women wont meet bi guys they figure having straight on their profile will help Really? I have no objections when it comes to meeting bi guys." I get it all the time it’s like they want to be bi, but don’t want others to know | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Only men have penises though. " Ummmm, ok this type of post rears its head regularly. OP I agree with you. If a man wants to meet a CD or TV then they aren't straight but this is where I bring up (again) the point that meeting a trans woman (pre-op, post-op or no plans to have-op) is the same category as meeting a woman even if it may be a different experience. Fab could adjust categories so trans aren't piled in with CD and TV folk. Also if you pick men on your profile and are male then the straight option disappears from your orientation choice. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Only men have penises though. Ummmm, ok this type of post rears its head regularly. OP I agree with you. If a man wants to meet a CD or TV then they aren't straight but this is where I bring up (again) the point that meeting a trans woman (pre-op, post-op or no plans to have-op) is the same category as meeting a woman even if it may be a different experience. Fab could adjust categories so trans aren't piled in with CD and TV folk. Also if you pick men on your profile and are male then the straight option disappears from your orientation choice. " So is having sex with a Ftm trans man, straight or gay/bi sex? | |||
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"So if I smoke cigarettes only when I’m drinking . Am I a smoker? If I eat meat only during the holiday meals... Am I a vegetarian? " No, you'd be labelled Smoke curious and Carnivore curious on here. | |||
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"So if I smoke cigarettes only when I’m drinking . Am I a smoker? If I eat meat only during the holiday meals... Am I a vegetarian? No, you'd be labelled Smoke curious and Carnivore curious on here. "Yes , this fab world is a odd place | |||
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"So if I smoke cigarettes only when I’m drinking . Am I a smoker? If I eat meat only during the holiday meals... Am I a vegetarian? No, you'd be labelled Smoke curious and Carnivore curious on here. "As long as nobody saw him eat it... he's a vegetarian on here | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Only men have penises though. Ummmm, ok this type of post rears its head regularly. OP I agree with you. If a man wants to meet a CD or TV then they aren't straight but this is where I bring up (again) the point that meeting a trans woman (pre-op, post-op or no plans to have-op) is the same category as meeting a woman even if it may be a different experience. Fab could adjust categories so trans aren't piled in with CD and TV folk. Also if you pick men on your profile and are male then the straight option disappears from your orientation choice. So is having sex with a Ftm trans man, straight or gay/bi sex?" No Straight guy is gonna fuck a woman who looks like a man though. It is a redundant question. | |||
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"the point that meeting a trans woman (pre-op, post-op or no plans to have-op) is the same category as meeting a woman even if it may be a different experience. Fab could adjust categories so trans aren't piled in with CD and TV folk. Also if you pick men on your profile and are male then the straight option disappears from your orientation choice. So is having sex with a Ftm trans man, straight or gay/bi sex? No Straight guy is gonna fuck a woman who looks like a man though. It is a redundant question. "Read the post I was replying to again..... If a man meets a trans woman mtf it’s still meeting a woman, So in the same regards if a man is meeting a trans man FTM, he is still meeting a man for gay sex regardless if this man has a vagina... | |||
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"the point that meeting a trans woman (pre-op, post-op or no plans to have-op) is the same category as meeting a woman even if it may be a different experience. Fab could adjust categories so trans aren't piled in with CD and TV folk. Also if you pick men on your profile and are male then the straight option disappears from your orientation choice. So is having sex with a Ftm trans man, straight or gay/bi sex? No Straight guy is gonna fuck a woman who looks like a man though. It is a redundant question.
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If a man meets a trans woman mtf it’s still meeting a woman,
So in the same regards if a man is meeting a trans man FTM, he is still meeting a man for gay sex regardless if this man has a vagina..."Touché. With the Fab magic logic they should be the same yeah. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol" Think that's sums it up ,if your bi be honest and put it on your profile nothing to be ashamed of | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. " | |||
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"I have no issues with Bi guys, I do find it a tad upsetting that in this day and age it is deemed more socially acceptable for me to be bi because I'm female, and less acceptable for a man to be bi. We should all just own who we are and what we are into. " | |||
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"are some women jealous of the way some tvs put on make up better? dont beat me up ffs just a question "I'm jealous of some tvs. | |||
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"are some women jealous of the way some tvs put on make up better? dont beat me up ffs just a question "Dam you is for it | |||
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"are some women jealous of the way some tvs put on make up better? dont beat me up ffs just a question
Dam you is for it "oh bloody hell the abuse box is overflowing | |||
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"I have no issues with Bi guys, I do find it a tad upsetting that in this day and age it is deemed more socially acceptable for me to be bi because I'm female, and less acceptable for a man to be bi. We should all just own who we are and what we are into. "
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"Many of us girls love bisexual men (in pairs!) x" Well you know that me and another bi guy, (you know who) are ready to meet up whenever you want  | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol" I agree. | |||
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"I have no issues with Bi guys, I do find it a tad upsetting that in this day and age it is deemed more socially acceptable for me to be bi because I'm female, and less acceptable for a man to be bi. We should all just own who we are and what we are into.
Well said xx "Exactly, it's 2018. I ave had the please of taking a T-Girl on their first night out in public. She was nervous but within a minute of hitting Canal Street in the Manchester Village she was totally relaxed. We were holding hands and kissing as we walked together. We did that and lot more on further visits, it was a wondurful time, I would happily do the same again with a new T-Girl. | |||
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"I’m bi, up until 5yrs ago I had mostly just played with men, probably only 10% of any fun I’d ever had was with other ladies meaning 90% was with men. BACK THEN I STILL SEE MYSELF AS BI I LICKED VAG .......... it’s men bullsh!tting just to fit into what they think women want, some women wont meet bi men so the men lie it’s that simple I have nothing against bi or gay men but I do have a problem with liars "This | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? " Words have definitions it's how we are able to communicate and make sense of each other.....then people come along trying to redifine the words to suit themselves.....so now people are not having the same conversation. If you have sex with someone who is the same sex as yourself you are not heterosexual. If it was a one off experience and you disliked it and have vowed never to repeat it then you can put it down to experimenting but not if you enjoy it and keep doing it. It does not matter if you love them or not, find them attractive or not, whoever said love, attraction and romance had to come into it. Its sex! You can call yourself whatever you want but I don't think everyone else has to indulge you.....language has no meaning anymore. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Words have definitions it's how we are able to communicate and make sense of each other.....then people come along trying to redifine the words to suit themselves.....so now people are not having the same conversation. If you have sex with someone who is the same sex as yourself you are not heterosexual. If it was a one off experience and you disliked it and have vowed never to repeat it then you can put it down to experimenting but not if you enjoy it and keep doing it. It does not matter if you love them or not, find them attractive or not, whoever said love, attraction and romance had to come into it. Its sex! You can call yourself whatever you want but I don't think everyone else has to indulge you.....language has no meaning anymore." It must be a cold day in hell..... you and I agree on a subject... | |||
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"Surely if a 'straight' guy is meeting/wanting to meet tv/ts this doesn't make him straight...denial? " i won’t meet bi guys, nothing wrong with them I just can’t physically watch 2 guys kiss or suck each other’s dick, there’s ladies that like it. I’m not that lady | |||
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"are some women jealous of the way some tvs put on make up better? dont beat me up ffs just a question "No....but I am often jealous of what fantastic legs they have. | |||
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"People/guys want to hide it as they get judge by people like you.... who cares what goes on behind closed doors as look as it safe and you both agree... Trust me when I say you would be absolutely amazed how and what many straight guys asked and get up too... why are you even putting labels on stuff, Get over it " That's rather harsh towards the OP. If it does not matter why does fab have a sexuality box. A person is entitled to choose whether they have sex with someone based on sexuality just as they do martial status or ethnicity.... Its a little thing called sexual preference. If people are going to come up with their own definition then it makes a mockery of having such a thing as a sexuality. First you would have to assertain what the person in question considered "straight" and "bisexual" to mean. We can't communicate if we are not going to use the same language.....and for language to work the words have to have a definition. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Words have definitions it's how we are able to communicate and make sense of each other.....then people come along trying to redifine the words to suit themselves.....so now people are not having the same conversation. If you have sex with someone who is the same sex as yourself you are not heterosexual. If it was a one off experience and you disliked it and have vowed never to repeat it then you can put it down to experimenting but not if you enjoy it and keep doing it. It does not matter if you love them or not, find them attractive or not, whoever said love, attraction and romance had to come into it. Its sex! You can call yourself whatever you want but I don't think everyone else has to indulge you.....language has no meaning anymore." | |||
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"We receive many messages from couples who want to meet where it states the male half is straight. All their veri’s are from other couples where the male is straight. I reply and ask them if they’ve actually read our profile. My partner Abby is clearly a TV. The usual comeback is that the male half loves TV’s. He’s really bi sexual but can’t put that on their profile. They also won’t display veri’s from TV’s as it puts people off. Makes my blood boil.Do they really think Abby is going to be their dirty little secret? Hell can freeze over first. If people can’t be open and honest on Fab then they shouldn’t be on here. It’s the last place I expected to find ignorance and prejudice but it’s rampant especially where trans people are concerned. "I’d proudly display a veri from Abby. | |||
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"Surely if a 'straight' guy is meeting/wanting to meet tv/ts this doesn't make him straight...denial? " I'd say that the majority of guys I've met from here have listed themselves as straight. I've chatted about that with a lot of them and the two main reasons quoted have been 1 - not attracted to guys and 2 - don't want to put bi because it puts women off. Also quite a lot of the meets do not want any contact or play with my cock, some even specifically ask for me to keep it as hidden as possible as all they want is to be given a bj and to fuck. I can understand where they are coming from with the first reason as hopefully most of us CD's try to look as feminine as possible (including good make up and legs) even if some of our masculine features are still partly evident. This bi scene with CD/TV/Trans is so complicated that having multiple labels just isn't going to help. Straight guys who meet us are not necessarily in denial, they are just using the fab definition of straight rather than the old fashioned dictionary definition. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. " Big D is the same, he likes sausage but doesn't get turned on by fellas, he does love the ladies though and loves to see me enjoy myself with guys, why pigeon hole anyone, if it feels good and nobody is getting hurt then we're all just humans enjoying sex! | |||
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" I'd say that the majority of guys I've met from here have listed themselves as straight. I've chatted about that with a lot of them and the two main reasons quoted have been 1 - not attracted to guys and 2 - don't want to put bi because it puts women off. Also quite a lot of the meets do not want any contact or play with my cock, some even specifically ask for me to keep it as hidden as possible as all they want is to be given a bj and to fuck. I can understand where they are coming from with the first reason as hopefully most of us CD's try to look as feminine as possible (including good make up and legs) even if some of our masculine features are still partly evident. This bi scene with CD/TV/Trans is so complicated that having multiple labels just isn't going to help. Straight guys who meet us are not necessarily in denial, they are just using the fab definition of straight rather than the old fashioned dictionary definition." I disagree. Other than a transitioning person, if a man wants to play with another man albeit dressed as a woman. Then he is by any definition bi. Words are always evolving, but at present the commonly held definition of bisexual is a person who has sexual experiences with both sexes. If the guys you meet only want to have sex with a woman then they should only meet women. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. " Your bi then xx  xx | |||
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"We receive many messages from couples who want to meet where it states the male half is straight. All their veri’s are from other couples where the male is straight. I reply and ask them if they’ve actually read our profile. My partner Abby is clearly a TV. The usual comeback is that the male half loves TV’s. He’s really bi sexual but can’t put that on their profile. They also won’t display veri’s from TV’s as it puts people off. Makes my blood boil.Do they really think Abby is going to be their dirty little secret? Hell can freeze over first. If people can’t be open and honest on Fab then they shouldn’t be on here. It’s the last place I expected to find ignorance and prejudice but it’s rampant especially where trans people are concerned. " | |||
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"Surely if a 'straight' guy is meeting/wanting to meet tv/ts this doesn't make him straight...denial? I'd say that the majority of guys I've met from here have listed themselves as straight. I've chatted about that with a lot of them and the two main reasons quoted have been 1 - not attracted to guys and 2 - don't want to put bi because it puts women off. Also quite a lot of the meets do not want any contact or play with my cock, some even specifically ask for me to keep it as hidden as possible as all they want is to be given a bj and to fuck. I can understand where they are coming from with the first reason as hopefully most of us CD's try to look as feminine as possible (including good make up and legs) even if some of our masculine features are still partly evident. This bi scene with CD/TV/Trans is so complicated that having multiple labels just isn't going to help. Straight guys who meet us are not necessarily in denial, they are just using the fab definition of straight rather than the old fashioned dictionary definition." | |||
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"Only men have penises though.
You are aware that it’s possible to be genetically more female than male and still have a penis?"Do tell? | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol So riddle me this. If a man (me) doesn't find other men attractive. Doesn't look at men in a loving way and there is zero appeal in having a romantic relationship with another man. He just likes penises. Yet he loves everything about women and loves being in romantic relationships with women. What do you class that guy as? Because i class myself as 99% straight. And that is my prerogative. It isn't up for other people to tell me i'm wrong and then put me into a pigeon hole that they think i belong in. Its up to the individual. Like with TV and TS people. It's up to them if they see themselves as male or female or whatever else they chose. If a man sticks his cock up a womans balloon knot would that make him gay or bi? Why does it make him gay if he puts it up a mans TV or TS's? Words have definitions it's how we are able to communicate and make sense of each other.....then people come along trying to redifine the words to suit themselves.....so now people are not having the same conversation. If you have sex with someone who is the same sex as yourself you are not heterosexual. If it was a one off experience and you disliked it and have vowed never to repeat it then you can put it down to experimenting but not if you enjoy it and keep doing it. It does not matter if you love them or not, find them attractive or not, whoever said love, attraction and romance had to come into it. Its sex! You can call yourself whatever you want but I don't think everyone else has to indulge you.....language has no meaning anymore." | |||
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"We receive many messages from couples who want to meet where it states the male half is straight. All their veri’s are from other couples where the male is straight. I reply and ask them if they’ve actually read our profile. My partner Abby is clearly a TV. The usual comeback is that the male half loves TV’s. He’s really bi sexual but can’t put that on their profile. They also won’t display veri’s from TV’s as it puts people off. Makes my blood boil.Do they really think Abby is going to be their dirty little secret? Hell can freeze over first. If people can’t be open and honest on Fab then they shouldn’t be on here. It’s the last place I expected to find ignorance and prejudice but it’s rampant especially where trans people are concerned.
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"Only men have penises though.
You are aware that it’s possible to be genetically more female than male and still have a penis?
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"Only men have penises though.
You are aware that it’s possible to be genetically more female than male and still have a penis?"No but they must be born intersex if that is the case. Which is extremely rare and not the case here. I doubt there is even 1 on this site. The rest are XX chromosome. | |||
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"Only men have penises though.
You are aware that it’s possible to be genetically more female than male and still have a penis?
Do tell?"It’s possible to have more than two sex defining chromosomes. So instead of being xx = woman and xy = man. You could be xxy or xyy In the first instance you would be genetically more female as you have more female chromosomes than male ones. You’d still develop a penis though as the Y chromosome is a stronger one. | |||
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"Only men have penises though.
You are aware that it’s possible to be genetically more female than male and still have a penis?
No but they must be born intersex if that is the case.
Which is extremely rare and not the case here. I doubt there is even 1 on this site.
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"Only men have penises though.
You are aware that it’s possible to be genetically more female than male and still have a penis?
No but they must be born intersex if that is the case.
Which is extremely rare and not the case here. I doubt there is even 1 on this site.
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"No but they must be born intersex if that is the case. Which is extremely rare and not the case here. I doubt there is even 1 on this site. The rest are XX chromosome." Across the spectrum of intersex 1.7% or 1 in 60 are born intersex to some degree. So it is more common that you think. | |||
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"No but they must be born intersex if that is the case. Which is extremely rare and not the case here. I doubt there is even 1 on this site. The rest are XX chromosome. Across the spectrum of intersex 1.7% or 1 in 60 are born intersex to some degree. So it is more common that you think. " No, that's fake news. | |||
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"No but they must be born intersex if that is the case. Which is extremely rare and not the case here. I doubt there is even 1 on this site. The rest are XX chromosome. Across the spectrum of intersex 1.7% or 1 in 60 are born intersex to some degree. So it is more common that you think. No, that's fake news." It's 1 in 1500 or 2000. | |||
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 shes doing genetics at the mo and can explain it brilliantly ... XXYX XYXX etc but I made those up btw!!
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"No, that's fake news." Not according to studies conducted by Briwns university and the American journal of human biology - but I’ll take your word for it. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol" Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it | |||
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"No, that's fake news. Not according to studies conducted by Briwns university and the American journal of human biology - but I’ll take your word for it. " Don't take my word for it take actual scientists word. You're referencing biased studies which are not accurate at all. Just look on Wikipedia even. | |||
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"I'll get my daughter on this for you shes doing genetics at the mo and can explain it brilliantly ... XXYX XYXX etc but I made those up btw!!
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it" Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party | |||
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"No, that's fake news. Not according to studies conducted by Briwns university and the American journal of human biology - but I’ll take your word for it. " So there would be 1 million intersex people in Britain alone? That shit doesn't add up. | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party" Your welcome
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My opinion remains a monster, if a block likes dick, sucks dick, fucks dick or does anything sexual with another mans dick he’s Gay call me a bigot a monster a cave man or what ever you like my opinion is my opinion. Just cause you’ve justified it with Bi sexual or cause you don’t want a relationship with a man it’s still a gay.
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"As the great philosopher Paul McCartney once said live and let live. No one forces anyone to do anything on here. Don’t like an opinion, block. " Live and let live but if you don’t agree it’s not the end of thre world don’t need to block or call names or is that how it works when you don’t agree with someone on fab? 
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party Your welcome
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My opinion remains a monster, if a block likes dick, sucks dick, fucks dick or does anything sexual with another mans dick he’s Gay call me a bigot a monster a cave man or what ever you like my opinion is my opinion. Just cause you’ve justified it with Bi sexual or cause you don’t want a relationship with a man it’s still a gay.
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party Your welcome
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My opinion remains a monster, if a block likes dick, sucks dick, fucks dick or does anything sexual with another mans dick he’s Gay call me a bigot a monster a cave man or what ever you like my opinion is my opinion. Just cause you’ve justified it with Bi sexual or cause you don’t want a relationship with a man it’s still a gay.
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"There's a lot of trans profiles on this site that are hotter in a feminine way than a lot of actual women's profiles. I wouldn't call it bi or gay to be attracted to feminine beauty? Also a trans woman sees herself as a woman and would like to be treated like a woman you'd be kinda going against their wishes to be thinking of then as men? Food for thought "well if people can't see me as a female .maybe they should go to specsavers | |||
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"I've absolutely nothing against it just don't understand why people try and hide it. Not everything is clear black and white. Million and one reasons why some may hide it. Me personally i don't care and am very open about what i like and don't. Not everyone is the same. I can see why some would hide it as they may feel ashamed, embarrassed, scared, maybe they don't see things the same way you do and see themselves a different way. Example. I had my first male/male experience with my best friend growing up. He would get super horny but then the second he finished cumming he felt ashamed and disgusted with himself. Yet he would want to do it again on another day and repeat the whole process. He would never admit to liking it as is now married with 3 kids. He also told me never to tell anyone. Where as here i am admitting exactly what i'm into and every knows and i don't give 2 shiny shits who knows. Everyone's different. Each to his own and all that. Did your friend dress? " Dress up as woman you mean? Nope he never dressed up. It was all a case of 2 young lads comparing sizes while looking at straight nudie magazines finding a page with a girl we liked on it then experimenting from there. You know, this wanking feels good doing it ourselves, but i wonder how it feels to have a girl do it? No girls around so we did it to each other. Then moved onto blowjobs etc etc. I can only speak for myself here. But when he gave me blowjobs and handjobs etc i'd be looking at my favourite girl in the nudie magazine and imagine it was her doing it. No idea what he was imagining. At first i never enjoyed giving him handjobs or oral. I just did it so i would receive my blowjob. But then after a while the more i did it the more i started to enjoy it. And that's where my love of cock comes from. But like say, i don't find men attractive, just like penises. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me. Also take into account there are men out there who are straight but are just so horny they are willing to let anyone play with their winky. I know men who think getting sex from women is too much of a chore because they have meet them and get to know them and go on dates etc before they can get the sex they are seeking. Or they may go through all that and never get any at all. So they see it as too much time and effort so will happily let another man suck them off as getting sex with another man is super easy. They just close their eyes and imagine a woman is sucking them off. With a TV/TS they get feminine side of it. Your bi then xx xx "Yeah i'm happy if people see me that way. Not fussed either way really. I'm a human that enjoys sex. xx | |||
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"are some women jealous of the way some tvs put on make up better? dont beat me up ffs just a question
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"I never understood that whole phenomenon of a bi or gay guy is less manly than a "real man". I've sucked a cock and would happily play with a convincing TV. And yet i'm a Royal Marine who has survived 4 tours of Afghanistan. " | |||
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"Surely if a 'straight' guy is meeting/wanting to meet tv/ts this doesn't make him straight...denial? " No just because they cannot get pussy and are greedy and scared to admit they are gay or bi or like sausage! Some couples have told me they have both played with single fab straight guys who weren’t very straight!  | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party Your welcome
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My opinion remains a monster, if a block likes dick, sucks dick, fucks dick or does anything sexual with another mans dick he’s Gay call me a bigot a monster a cave man or what ever you like my opinion is my opinion. Just cause you’ve justified it with Bi sexual or cause you don’t want a relationship with a man it’s still a gay.
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So by your reckoning you have no interest in bi women, because they are really gay and justifying it with the label bisexual and therefore would have no interest in you or your cock because gay is gay right?
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party Your welcome
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My opinion remains a monster, if a block likes dick, sucks dick, fucks dick or does anything sexual with another mans dick he’s Gay call me a bigot a monster a cave man or what ever you like my opinion is my opinion. Just cause you’ve justified it with Bi sexual or cause you don’t want a relationship with a man it’s still a gay.
Or bi. Some do like both sexes
Ok so two bi guys meet up what kind of sex of they have? "That's semantics. You are clearly saying that a man who indulges with another man is clearly gay. Gay would meant that they were only attracted to someone of the same sex. It's called a gay act, but it's the act that's labelled as Gay, not the person. Surely you are not that ignorant? | |||
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"Guy sucks/fucks a guy = not straight lol Has the world gone mad! I’m lost, if a guy engages sexually with another man regardless if the said man is dressed in women cloths or has a pair of female breasts this makes the man Gay Regardless if he wants to be on a gay relationship or fantasies about it Thank you for that broadcast from the monster raving bigot party Your welcome
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My opinion remains a monster, if a block likes dick, sucks dick, fucks dick or does anything sexual with another mans dick he’s Gay call me a bigot a monster a cave man or what ever you like my opinion is my opinion. Just cause you’ve justified it with Bi sexual or cause you don’t want a relationship with a man it’s still a gay.
Or bi. Some do like both sexes
Ok so two bi guys meet up what kind of sex of they have?
That's semantics. You are clearly saying that a man who indulges with another man is clearly gay. Gay would meant that they were only attracted to someone of the same sex. It's called a gay act, but it's the act that's labelled as Gay, not the person. Surely you are not that ignorant? "Guess I am but surly you can answer my question with a simple yes or no? | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual " So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong?" No because I used the word only , you might have missed it | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it " I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? " If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that " Is just what... just gay sex | |||
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"Denial, any holes a goal or playing both ends against the middle As a portion of women wont meet bi guys they figure having straight on their profile will help Really? I have no objections when it comes to meeting bi guys." this is common amongst men not honest enough to say the bi sexual , had one guy say to me he puts straight As he has family members on here ? So it’s ok that they know he is on a sex swingers site , but heaven help they find he is bi sexual or gay it’s almost laughable if it wasn’t so sad | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex " Just two bisexual men having sex | |||
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"I delete a lot of messages from straight men, because they dont say they are bi By the very fact that want my cock they are bi Then they get upset when I dont respond " People are very strange  | |||
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"I delete a lot of messages from straight men, because they dont say they are bi By the very fact that want my cock they are bi Then they get upset when I dont respond People are very strange "If you can lie so blatantly to yourself.... | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex " If that’s what they call it then fair play to them in my eyes it’s still gay sex. Any way enough with the gay/bi sex talk for one day thanks Have a fab day all especially the guy who called me a monster | |||
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"My honest opinion is that it is down to desperation. Fab is a great place for discretion around a mutual interest, it can be hard to get a response from a woman you wouldn't look twice at on the street. If you then come across something that is more attractive aesthetically as a whole, in place of that thing that you initially desired (even if it's the second best version) then it becomes more appealing. Over time, this appeal grows and accessibility makes it the priority. " I can’t support you with this one.... I’m in America and let’s just say there is more men than women..... I’ve never been that desperate to play with cock | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex " Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... | |||
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"If a " straight " man wants to suck my cock then he MUST be bi sexual Or am I missing something ?" If a Straight man wants to meet you full stop he is Bi. | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex...." Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? " | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? "But don’t forget those two bi men are not having gay sex! See I learnt something today | |||
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"So much bullsh!t on this thread, men that suck dick or and like sucking dick are bi or gay! Why is it such a big deal, no need to become a liar just because you’re trying to fit into what you think women want. Not all of us women are anti-bi/gay guy.......... be true to yourself! "The end. | |||
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"I've always seen myself as 99% straight. Reason being I don't find other men attractive at all like i do women. I've never in my 38yrs looked at a man and gone "phwoarrr" and never fantasized about being in a romantic relationship with a man. But i do with women. However, i do love cock. So that's why i've always classed myself as 99% straight. So TV's/TS are perfect for me." I would actually say this is pretty common (on fab anyway). There are lots of guys out there who enjoy playing with cock but don't want to play with one when it's attached to a big hairy guy, however they do when it's attached to a smooth shaven body in lingerie etc | |||
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"So much bullsh!t on this thread, men that suck dick or and like sucking dick are bi or gay! Why is it such a big deal, no need to become a liar just because you’re trying to fit into what you think women want. Not all of us women are anti-bi/gay guy.......... be true to yourself! " | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? " Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker?" I think you're confused my American friend. I think they know the act is gay just the guys doing it are Bi. | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker?" Really? When things are a simple yes or no ie you smoke or you don't then I think even you can work it out. It amazes me that people deem themselves intelligent then think trying to be be a devil's advocate is equated too intelligence ... it would be much easier if you thought before you typed! | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? Really? When things are a simple yes or no ie you smoke or you don't then I think even you can work it out. It amazes me that people deem themselves intelligent then think trying to be be a devil's advocate is equated too intelligence ... it would be much easier if you thought before you typed! " Once you even fantasise about a man you're no longer Straight in my book. | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? Really? When things are a simple yes or no ie you smoke or you don't then I think even you can work it out. It amazes me that people deem themselves intelligent then think trying to be be a devil's advocate is equated too intelligence ... it would be much easier if you thought before you typed! Once you even fantasise about a man you're no longer Straight in my book." Omg I'm not straight!!! | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? Really? When things are a simple yes or no ie you smoke or you don't then I think even you can work it out. It amazes me that people deem themselves intelligent then think trying to be be a devil's advocate is equated too intelligence ... it would be much easier if you thought before you typed! Once you even fantasise about a man you're no longer Straight in my book. Omg I'm not straight!!! "Yeah, you're bi curious | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? Really? When things are a simple yes or no ie you smoke or you don't then I think even you can work it out. It amazes me that people deem themselves intelligent then think trying to be be a devil's advocate is equated too intelligence ... it would be much easier if you thought before you typed! " Honestly why the angst..... I asked a question... If you can’t answer it , please don’t be rude... I’m not someone who has a creative mind... If I put bread in a toaster, I expect toast to come out... If two men are having sex , they’re having gay sex regardless if they are bi... there for making them gay... If I drink alcohol, I’m a drinker If I smoke , I’m a smoker Most gay men deem themselves bi before having enough courage to come out of the closet... | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? Really? When things are a simple yes or no ie you smoke or you don't then I think even you can work it out. It amazes me that people deem themselves intelligent then think trying to be be a devil's advocate is equated too intelligence ... it would be much easier if you thought before you typed! Once you even fantasise about a man you're no longer Straight in my book. Omg I'm not straight!!! Yeah, you're bi curious "Why would fantasizing about men make me bi curious? Huh? | |||
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"Surely if a 'straight' guy is meeting/wanting to meet tv/ts this doesn't make him straight...denial? " I thought denial is where the Egyptian swimming team train Sorry I'll get my coat | |||
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"How I see it only opposite gender sex then heterosexual... only same gender sex then gay ... Anything inbetween is bisexual So two bi men having sex is gay? Or am I wrong? No because I used the word only , you might have missed it I don’t get that. What’s the difference between two gay men having sex and two bi men having sex with each other? If a man only has sex with ladies he is heterosexual, if a man only has sex with men he is gay ... if he has sex with either men or women then he is bisexual. Two bisexual men having sex with each other are just that Is just what... just gay sex Just two bisexual men having sex Omg omg ...... you win the internet..... Please explain how two bi men having sex without a woman is not gay sex.... Seriously? It explains it quite well gay men ONLY have sex with men whereas bisexual men have sex with either men or women!! What is there to understand? Does this apply in any other phases of life? Like if I smoke cigarettes only on the weekends , when I’m drinking , and I never buy a pack... Can I honestly call myself a non smoker? I think you're confused my American friend. I think they know the act is gay just the guys doing it are Bi. " So if I rob someone’s home instead of robbing a bank.. I’m a burglar , not a thief ...... I get it now.... Forgive me | |||
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