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Should single pregnant women sleep with men from fab

By *rs99 OP Man over a year ago

Scarborough

I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter

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By *ilth500Man over a year ago

Merseyside

if they want too

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By *orticiaWoman over a year ago

Wirral

I don’t think it’s controversial at all.

It’s no one’s business but their own

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes. Why not.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I think that should be for them to decide themselves. As long as they practice safe sex to protect themselves and the baby I personally don't see a problem with it.

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By *rs99 OP Man over a year ago

Scarborough

"I don’t think it’s controversial at all.

It’s no one’s business but their own "
so was that a yes or no or a sit on the fence comment

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its down to the people involved

Id quite happily play with a pregnant woman

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Entirely up to them.

Why do you ask the question OP?

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By *rs99 OP Man over a year ago

Scarborough

"Yes. Why not. "
say if your ex was sleeping wit a pregnant woman you found out he'd met on fab wud u be happy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sure why not.

I wouldn't personally keet knowing that they are.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Yes. Why not. say if your ex was sleeping wit a pregnant woman you found out he'd met on fab wud u be happy "

If it's my ex, why would I care?

It's up to the people in question.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If they want to, yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can’t see any reason why a woman can’t enjoy herself just because she’s pregnant.

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By *exyajmalMan over a year ago

oxford

I think if they are fine with what they are doing

Then perfectly fine

There is no controversy here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Single pregnant women should do whatever the fuck they like

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

"Yes. Why not. say if your ex was sleeping wit a pregnant woman you found out he'd met on fab wud u be happy "

He's an ex, they're both grown ups, entirely up to them.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

It's up to women what they want,but I personally can't get my head around women that do. I would have thought it was a very intimate time between a man and a woman and their precious cargo.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s no ones business but their own

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter"

Why is this bothering you OP?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's up to women what they want,but I personally can't get my head around women that do. I would have thought it was a very intimate time between a man and a woman and their precious cargo. "

She doesn't have a man.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"It's up to women what they want,but I personally can't get my head around women that do. I would have thought it was a very intimate time between a man and a woman and their precious cargo.

She doesn't have a man."

Yeah sorry just re-read it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Any woman having sex with strangers while they are pregnant are within their rights.

My opinion is they have a duty of care towards the child they are carrying and should have the safest sex they can.

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By *heblackmacMan over a year ago

Ladywell, Lewisham.

Done it 3 weeks ago.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Ok reviewed answer. If she's having random sex with lots of different people then no,if it's one regular man then that's ok. That may not make sense to myself also,but there you go.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Op, how would you know if you were having sex with a woman who was say, eight weeks pregnant? Is there a difference if the pregnancy is actually showing, do you feel there should be a cut off before which it's acceptable and after which it isn't? What's the difference between having sex with a woman before the baby is born and after?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Op, how would you know if you were having sex with a woman who was say, eight weeks pregnant? Is there a difference if the pregnancy is actually showing, do you feel there should be a cut off before which it's acceptable and after which it isn't? What's the difference between having sex with a woman before the baby is born and after?"

Flatter belly?

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

No they shouldn’t.

They should sleep only with me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter"

Yes they should, me specifically.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If she wants to.

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By *tirluvMan over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Only if they are expecting triplets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes. Why not. "
love your eyes

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Any woman having sex with strangers while they are pregnant are within their rights.

My opinion is they have a duty of care towards the child they are carrying and should have the safest sex they can.

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By *mp411Man over a year ago

chester

Personally I don’t find “showing” pregnant women attractive so I wouldn’t but each to their own

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By *est Wales WifeCouple over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

Didn't we have a mysteriously deleted thread on this earlier?

Pregnancy is not an illnesss - thus surely it is for individuals to do as they wish?

From the NHS website

"It's perfectly safe to have sex during pregnancy unless your doctor or midwife has told you not to.

Having sex will not hurt your baby. Your partner's penis can't penetrate beyond your vagina, and the baby cannot tell what's going on.

Some couples find having sex very enjoyable during pregnancy, while others simply feel they don't want to. You can find other ways of being loving or making love. The most important thing is to talk about your feelings with each other.

If your pregnancy is normal and you have no complications, having sex and orgasms won't increase your risk of going into labour early or cause a miscarriage.

Later in pregnancy, an orgasm or even sex itself can set off mild contractions. If this happens, you'll feel the muscles of your womb go hard. These are known as Braxton Hicks contractions and can be uncomfortable, but they're perfectly normal and there's no need for alarm. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the more pertinent question is do women sleep with men on fab

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Up the bum, no harm done

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think its for us to pontificate on what other peoples life choices are in this case its pretty sad some people think we should.

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By *ilth500Man over a year ago

Merseyside

"I don't think its for us to pontificate on what other peoples life choices are in this case its pretty sad some people think we should. "

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By *orticiaWoman over a year ago

Wirral

"I don’t think it’s controversial at all.

It’s no one’s business but their own so was that a yes or no or a sit on the fence comment"

Yes if they want to, no if they don’t want to.

It’s their business. Being pregnant doesn’t take away a woman’s right to make a decision about her own body.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

If they want to

Personally I never could took a break in all my pregnancies

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple over a year ago

Halifax

Up to the lady ,personally I wouldn't

Miss

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter"

That is up to the woman to decide. It's not up to anyone else to decide. If a guy or couple do not want to meet a pregnant woman that is their choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Any woman having sex with strangers while they are pregnant are within their rights.

My opinion is they have a duty of care towards the child they are carrying and should have the safest sex they can.

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone should be able to sleep with anyone if they want to and it’s safe to do so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The question says more about the OP than it does about pregnant women. Not doing yourself any favours there mate!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I don't think its for us to pontificate on what other peoples life choices are in this case its pretty sad some people think we should. "

What a ridiculous point of view. As if the only morals we need to worry about are our own.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think its for us to pontificate on what other peoples life choices are in this case its pretty sad some people think we should. "
pontificate love that word but in regard to subject the potentially pregnant woman has to think about two people now she has a moral obligation to her unborn child to do everything in her power to make her body the healthiest she can in order to nurture the growth of her child or children, their is always a risk be it a small one that you could affect the pregnancy, it's a small part of your life and hopefully a happy point in your life, do your best for you pregnancy but having said that some people like to risk things and as long as they are happy with the outcome then as an adult that's the choice they make.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Op, didn't you find your answer on the other thread earlier today?

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By *parkleandfluffCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

Sounds like this is a personal situation? Are you the ex sleeping with a pregnant woman OP?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t understand all of the ‘it’s none of our business’ replies?

We have been asked our opinions and I’m happy to give mine. I’m not directly interfering in a persons life!

My opinion is that it’s wrong because in MY world, children should be raised in a stable relationship and not use somebody as a sperm donor. This is a simplistic opinion however.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes. Why not. say if your ex was sleeping wit a pregnant woman you found out he'd met on fab wud u be happy

If it's my ex, why would I care?

It's up to the people in question. "

Maybe it’s the op baby

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I wouldn’t but that’s my personal preference.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter"

What’s it got to do with you or anybody else for that matter. Worry about your own life and let others worry about theirs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t understand all of the ‘it’s none of our business’ replies?

We have been asked our opinions and I’m happy to give mine. I’m not directly interfering in a persons life!

My opinion is that it’s wrong because in MY world, children should be raised in a stable relationship and not use somebody as a sperm donor. This is a simplistic opinion however."
yes and stay together as a family unit and weather the storms of life

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By *wingin CatMan over a year ago

London

"I don't think its for us to pontificate on what other peoples life choices are in this case its pretty sad some people think we should. "

Totally agree - why is it such a big deal?

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By *wingin CatMan over a year ago

London

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter

What’s it got to do with you or anybody else for that matter. Worry about your own life and let others worry about theirs. "

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

They can do what they want. Pregnant women have needs and aren't just ovens for baking babies.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter"

I was pregnant and I'm single. No way would I of met for sex with anyone from here. I offered socials only to help those without an in person verification.

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By *ommyxyzMan over a year ago

Harlow

I think I’ve read in the latest giudence from the association of midwives that they positively recommend it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think I’ve read in the latest giudence from the association of midwives that they positively recommend it."

Not with random strangers! They base that statement as if mum is still in a relationship with babys dad.

During pregnancy the mother has lots of blood and urine tests. To ensure her health and that of the baby. If all clear then obviously mum and dad are healthy. So no reason for baby's parents to stop having sex.

Randoms from a sex site are unpredictable. You don't know what anyone has. Even a simple cold sore can pose serious health risks to an unborn child and a new born. In fact a new born died from being kissed by a relative with a cold sore! True story!

Condoms break. Condoms slip off. Some guys take them off when the woman is unaware. You just don't know where that person has been before sleeping with a pregnant woman. You don't know where his sexual ex partner had been before sleeping with him. So bad health can and does pass along like a chain effect.

The risk May be small but it's still a risk. So no it's not just down to pregnant woman to take extra care in her condition, it's up to you men too.

I'm amazed some find sustaining from sex with randoms for 9 months, so difficult!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think I’ve read in the latest giudence from the association of midwives that they positively recommend it.

Not with random strangers! They base that statement as if mum is still in a relationship with babys dad.

The risk May be small but it's still a risk. So no it's not just down to pregnant woman to take extra care in her condition, it's up to you men too.

I'm amazed some find sustaining from sex with randoms for 9 months, so difficult!

But risk is there regardless.

The unborn child’s father could easily be a member of Fab and be sleeping with every Sue, Susie & Susan so he could be passing on god knows what to the pregnant woman also.

Strangers are a risk yes, but the child’s father could also be a risk if he is sleeping around behind the mothers back.

Nothing comes without risks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think I’ve read in the latest giudence from the association of midwives that they positively recommend it.

Not with random strangers! They base that statement as if mum is still in a relationship with babys dad.

The risk May be small but it's still a risk. So no it's not just down to pregnant woman to take extra care in her condition, it's up to you men too.

I'm amazed some find sustaining from sex with randoms for 9 months, so difficult!

But risk is there regardless.

The unborn child’s father could easily be a member of Fab and be sleeping with every Sue, Susie & Susan so he could be passing on god knows what to the pregnant woman also.

Strangers are a risk yes, but the child’s father could also be a risk if he is sleeping around behind the mothers back.

Nothing comes without risks. "

Also the child that died after being kissed by a relative with a cold sore... that was a family member not some random stanger.

That alone shows risks aren’t just with random unknowns on a swingers site.

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

woman can do what she likes with her body.me personaly i wouldnt have any problem meeting with a pregnant woman

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"woman can do what she likes with her body.me personaly i wouldnt have any problem meeting with a pregnant woman"

"Her body"

Yeah because she chooses to kick herself hundreds of times a day

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"woman can do what she likes with her body.me personaly i wouldnt have any problem meeting with a pregnant woman"
dicks thinking again though, squeeze it

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By *rs99 OP Man over a year ago

Scarborough

"Op, didn't you find your answer on the other thread earlier today?"
no I was about to post a comment and got told by fab that I wasn't invited bk on to the thread it wasn't a bad comment I was just expressing my personal opinion

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women. "
don't you think some people need help

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women. "

It is. The risk of having protected sex is very small and that's not the decision I inherently have a problem with. But earlier this year there was a pregnant woman on fab racking up triple digit verifications, all bareback. Anyone who doesn't understand why that's immoral is simply lacking a moral compass all together.

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By *orticiaWoman over a year ago

Wirral

"I don’t understand all of the ‘it’s none of our business’ replies?

We have been asked our opinions and I’m happy to give mine. I’m not directly interfering in a persons life!

My opinion is that it’s wrong because in MY world, children should be raised in a stable relationship and not use somebody as a sperm donor. This is a simplistic opinion however.yes and stay together as a family unit and weather the storms of life "

Apparently I’ve stepped through a time portal to the mid-60’s

What if a happily married expecting couple are Swingers & choose to continue meeting during the pregnancy?

No one is saying that this pregnant woman has walked out on the father to pursue a life of hedonism

Swinging & being a loving family unit are not mutually exclusive.

A woman - any woman - has the right to decide what she should or shouldn’t do with her body, regardless of pregnancy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t understand all of the ‘it’s none of our business’ replies?

We have been asked our opinions and I’m happy to give mine. I’m not directly interfering in a persons life!

Apparently I’ve stepped through a time portal to the mid-60’s

What if a happily married expecting couple are Swingers & choose to continue meeting during the pregnancy?

No one is saying that this pregnant woman has walked out on the father to pursue a life of hedonism

Swinging & being a loving family unit are not mutually exclusive.

A woman - any woman - has the right to decide what she should or shouldn’t do with her body, regardless of pregnancy."
true but it is a little irresponsible

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By *rs99 OP Man over a year ago

Scarborough

This is my personnel view me personally I think its quite freaky that a man wud knowingly sleep with a a woman bearing the unborn child of another man and and here's a thought and its only a thought how do you think the farther of that child would feel if he found out that his ex the mother of his unborn child was sleeping with a man shed met on fab mmm now theyres food is it a case of a lack of empathy for the farther look I'm not having a go at anybody I'm just asking for peoples opinions on the subject and this is my final comment on the subject to the men out they're who wud sleep wit a woman who was pregnant how wud u feel if it was your pregnant ex just place yourself in to that situation cause as the farther of a beautiful eighteen yr old girl I'd be far from happy and so they're you have it

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help"

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is my personnel view me personally I think its quite freaky that a man wud knowingly sleep with a a woman bearing the unborn child of another man and and here's a thought and its only a thought how do you think the farther of that child would feel if he found out that his ex the mother of his unborn child was sleeping with a man shed met on fab mmm now theyres food is it a case of a lack of empathy for the farther look I'm not having a go at anybody I'm just asking for peoples opinions on the subject and this is my final comment on the subject to the men out they're who wud sleep wit a woman who was pregnant how wud u feel if it was your pregnant ex just place yourself in to that situation cause as the farther of a beautiful eighteen yr old girl I'd be far from happy and so they're you have it "
the farther the better

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make."

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem. "

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this could be a controversial subject but I'm just interested in what peoples points of view please keep comments to the subject matter"

No controversy whatsoever. They’re having a baby, not taking a vow of celibacy. Good on anyone who still feels horny enough to do it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t understand all of the ‘it’s none of our business’ replies?

We have been asked our opinions and I’m happy to give mine. I’m not directly interfering in a persons life!

My opinion is that it’s wrong because in MY world, children should be raised in a stable relationship and not use somebody as a sperm donor. This is a simplistic opinion however."

What are you talking about? She's already pregnant; should she still meet men from here while she is pregnant?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous."
What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Says a man...

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails "

Laws tend to support the morals of the majority of a society.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I personally never ever would because of the risk to the baby from stds

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

Really?! Jesus that isn't good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails

Laws tend to support the morals of the majority of a society."
I'm sorry in this instance if you regard that baby or babies with any sense of priority and as a father I would then sense has to be paramount

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails

Laws tend to support the morals of the majority of a society."

Absolute nonsense. There is no moral code that would prioritise unprotect casual sex over the health risks to the baby, it's simply people acting immorally. Law and moral are different, that's kind of like what most people learn as teenagers.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

Really?! Jesus that isn't good."

Yes, I stuck them on our hotlist just to make sure we blocked all their verifications. To be honest, it was all the usual suspects and mostly people we had already blocked for similar behaviour with other infected people. I tell myself that they were probably HIV positive before they got pregnant and that helps me feel a bit less upset about it all.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails

Laws tend to support the morals of the majority of a society.

There's no law saying it's illegal. If it was of such moral outrage there would be one by now, but there isn't.

Btw in case you didn't realise i support autonomy and the non-pushing of ideals onto others so you're arguing with a brick wall basically.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails

Laws tend to support the morals of the majority of a society.

There's no law saying it's illegal. If it was of such moral outrage there would be one by now, but there isn't.

Btw in case you didn't realise i support autonomy and the non-pushing of ideals onto others so you're arguing with a brick wall basically."

Sorry but your logic is embarassing. The truly hideous face of radical feminism.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"People still think in this day and age it's ok to remove autonomy from pregnant women.

don't you think some people need help

Maybe some do if they want to change, but otherwise women are allowed autonomy, pregnant or not.

It's her body, her pregnancy, and she has to deal with the consequences of anything that arises due to her choices, but they're her choices to make.

No, the baby deals with the consequences. That's the moral problem.

There is no moral problem. right now the law supports her pregnant body being autonomous.What's the law got to do with it common sense prevails

Laws tend to support the morals of the majority of a society.

There's no law saying it's illegal. If it was of such moral outrage there would be one by now, but there isn't.

Btw in case you didn't realise i support autonomy and the non-pushing of ideals onto others so you're arguing with a brick wall basically.

Sorry but your logic is embarassing. The truly hideous face of radical feminism. "

You being pushy is hideous. The logic is that women have the right to do whatever they want with their own bodies.

Her body is still hers even when she is pregnant. She has no obligation to the foetus growing inside whatsoever,and that's the law. Once a baby is born then others can intervene because it isn't dependent on her but until then no you can't in any way, shape or form because she (pregnant woman) has autonomy.