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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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Lol.
I've pretty much only met guys for NSA who are over 6ft 2, good looking, well hung, decent bodies and under 40 yrs of age. Over 200 guys in my area like that. I also only date guys 5ft 11 and above.
I don't even put those requirements on my profiles ever and just dismiss anyone not meeting up to those standards.
I actually push the height thing up as i go too, only met guys 6ft 4 and above and then went up to 6ft 6, for the 'challenge' of finding those guys coz all others seem to have a surplus.
And i've never had to complain about anyone not turning up to meet either, not exactly stunning here either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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I love it when guys completely kill their chances of a meet with a forum post!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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supply and demand have you not come across this concept |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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you've probably just crossed a load of women off your list here to, that'll keep your messages down |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nicely written, but part of the problem is that this website is overloaded with people, and in particular, men.
Everyone has specifics, naturally, so I think your post poses both questions and it's own answers.
A lot of people on here have zero interest in the social aspect, and therefore are unwilling to engage in conversation to find out anything about people - from experience as part of a couple in the past, I can assure you that the majority of couples do not want to know anything about you/people/men since their only interest in you is sex.
Everyone is coming into this with a different angle & dynamic so there's never going to be any one definitive answer to the question of attraction. It isn't as simple as meeting a real human on a one to one basis in public. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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Same reason people make it 'difficult' for themselves by saying they are only available at certain times.
Life's just a bummer when you cant get layed, aint it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nicely written, but part of the problem is that this website is overloaded with people, and in particular, men.
Everyone has specifics, naturally, so I think your post poses both questions and it's own answers.
A lot of people on here have zero interest in the social aspect, and therefore are unwilling to engage in conversation to find out anything about people - from experience as part of a couple in the past, I can assure you that the majority of couples do not want to know anything about you/people/men since their only interest in you is sex.
Everyone is coming into this with a different angle & dynamic so there's never going to be any one definitive answer to the question of attraction. It isn't as simple as meeting a real human on a one to one basis in public."
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A lot of guys feel entitled to a woman. Of course they do not understand that we may feel a need to be visually turned on or have fantasies of our own we wish to fulfil and may enjoy seeking out to fulfil them and push those boundaries because men are too easy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok so;
1. I’m here for me, not to provide a service.
2. As a female I get so many offers I can pick who really excites me; I’m not desperate and see reason one.
3. I’m not going to have sex with anyone I don’t really fancy. See reason two.
I’m sure lots of guys and couples are in this position....
there are an awful lot of guys who aren’t so lucky and so feel the need to whinge about it in hope someone will believe him rather than the overwhelming body of evidence.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's also worth noting that the people on here that talk a lot and have plenty to say about themselves (I include myself as one of them) are often overlooked because people like the simplicity of physical attraction over everything else.
I'm often told my profile is too wordy, so the physical side goes out the window because people just want sex.
It's a balancing act. I've had many many messages deleted and then been told it was because the message was too long.
Short attention spans. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?"
No, because this is quite specific to men. We all understand the notion of men on here being a bit dim when it comes to attraction/the way the site works. The OP seems quite bright though in my view - he's just trying to debate is all. |
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?"
Nope.
But saying that women have been sexually objectified for so long that it's not possible for any woman to be unattractive for sexual purposes anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?"
No and I suspect the op is the one who has been rejected numerous times by these so called ugly women because he's not 6ft + with a good bod and under 40 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?"
There was one the other day but it’s very rare. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Everyone has the right to set themselves what ever preferences or standards they may have. If your ego says you are ‘better’ than anyone who happens to have a preference for something you can’t provide, then you really need to have a long hard look at yourself and your self entitlement.
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Ok so;
1. I’m here for me, not to provide a service.
2. As a female I get so many offers I can pick who really excites me; I’m not desperate and see reason one.
3. I’m not going to have sex with anyone I don’t really fancy. See reason two.
I’m sure lots of guys and couples are in this position....
there are an awful lot of guys who aren’t so lucky and so feel the need to whinge about it in hope someone will believe him rather than the overwhelming body of evidence. "
Very well put. X |
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?
No, because this is quite specific to men. We all understand the notion of men on here being a bit dim when it comes to attraction/the way the site works. The OP seems quite bright though in my view - he's just trying to debate is all."
I think he's just trying to debase but my post is hoping to further that. He's said that the women he describes will limit their already scarce opportunities. My observation is that this isn't so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?
No, because this is quite specific to men. We all understand the notion of men on here being a bit dim when it comes to attraction/the way the site works. The OP seems quite bright though in my view - he's just trying to debate is all.
I think he's just trying to debase but my post is hoping to further that. He's said that the women he describes will limit their already scarce opportunities. My observation is that this isn't so."
Agreed - the scarcity he mentions is a construct of his own opinion and not based in fact. We all know that men are the bottom-feeders of the recreational sex world. None of this is news. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Even us ugly fuckers have a queue.
Rachel, anyone who defines thee as an ugly fucker is in desperate need of a trip to Specsavers!"
People don’t see what I see when I look in the mirror, thankfully. It’s not called a dismorphia without reason. |
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1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety. "
Totally agree with this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Most people are here looking for NSA. It's just something fun to pass time, so why not aim high?
You wouldn't go eat at a restaurant if the food wasn't any better than you could make yourself at home. |
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"Has anyone ever seen a thread from a woman such as those described in the op complaining that they can't get meets?
No, because this is quite specific to men. We all understand the notion of men on here being a bit dim when it comes to attraction/the way the site works. The OP seems quite bright though in my view - he's just trying to debate is all.
I think he's just trying to debase but my post is hoping to further that. He's said that the women he describes will limit their already scarce opportunities. My observation is that this isn't so."
Like seriously, when I joined I had 20 messages before I'd written a bio. Over a thousand in three days. Thousands before I was photo verified, possibly even ten thousand before I put up a public photo.
Scarce like rain is scarce in Manchester. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety. "
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety.
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
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Emotional intelligence is a rarity in these parts |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can’t work out if the OP is whining about his own experiences or simply being provocative for the sake of it. Either way I think he’s missing the point that people can and will create their own preferences here and that really doesn’t need anyone else’s opinion or validation. Also be nice  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety.
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
Emotional intelligence is a rarity in these parts "
Absolutely, and that is not even a gender specific issue I can assure you! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety.
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
Emotional intelligence is a rarity in these parts
Absolutely, and that is not even a gender specific issue I can assure you!"
That’s why I wasn’t specific. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety.
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
Emotional intelligence is a rarity in these parts
Absolutely, and that is not even a gender specific issue I can assure you!
That’s why I wasn’t specific. "
I know, darling, I thought I'd mention it for the benefit of the group x |
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety.
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
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Bingo.
I'm actually pretty open minded. My main concerns are people who give a vague rat's arse about me, aren't desperate for any wet hole with a pulse (overlap with the first), are interesting, and put some thought into being appealing to me.
Unfortunately that's almost as rare as rocking horse shit around here, to which my battery operated boyfriend will attest. But still better than the alternative! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety.
The opposite is also true for a lot of guys. Men on here are often lazy in their efforts to even appear attractive, let alone BE attractive as a proposition.
We all think we're good looking, smart, funny etc, the trick is understanding other people, having self awareness and being entirely aware of the thoughts & desires of other human beings.
Bingo.
I'm actually pretty open minded. My main concerns are people who give a vague rat's arse about me, aren't desperate for any wet hole with a pulse (overlap with the first), are interesting, and put some thought into being appealing to me.
Unfortunately that's almost as rare as rocking horse shit around here, to which my battery operated boyfriend will attest. But still better than the alternative! "
This is fast becoming a thread where the converted are preaching to each other! Let's just hope those in question have enough blood left in their brains to read it and commit it to memory.
I have my doubts |
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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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All but one of the replies on this debate so far has gone vaguely close to the crux of the issue.
I read the defences and the carefully deliberated responses that pour out the 'choices are mine/ours' and the "Oh the OP must be regularly rejected and that's why he says these things"....
This query that I have laid before you, as with many in the forums, has a far more simplistic 'answer' than you clearly all realise.
I look forward to the incoming onslaught and chatter |
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"All but one of the replies on this debate so far has gone vaguely close to the crux of the issue.
I read the defences and the carefully deliberated responses that pour out the 'choices are mine/ours' and the "Oh the OP must be regularly rejected and that's why he says these things"....
This query that I have laid before you, as with many in the forums, has a far more simplistic 'answer' than you clearly all realise.
I look forward to the incoming onslaught and chatter "
Lol have fun with that. It's just the way it is. Attraction is subjective. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Maybe they only want to appeal to a very small % of suitors. IE the ones *they find attractive, not the men who think they will be suitable for them, based on their apparent unattractiveness and presumably gratitude
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"Maybe they only want to appeal to a very small % of suitors. IE the ones *they find attractive, not the men who think they will be suitable for them, based on their apparent unattractiveness and presumably gratitude
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I agree |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Soooooo
Basically your suggesting that us people at the lower end of the chain ( as you put it) should gratefully and gleefully fuck anything that asks!
We should be gratefull that anyone with a pulse can look beyond our troll like appearance and imperfect figures.
Wow
I think I just had an epiphany
Oh no, hang on, my mistake, it's wind created by your BS
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"Soooooo
Basically your suggesting that us people at the lower end of the chain ( as you put it) should gratefully and gleefully fuck anything that asks!
We should be gratefull that anyone with a pulse can look beyond our troll like appearance and imperfect figures.
Wow
I think I just had an epiphany
Oh no, hang on, my mistake, it's wind created by your BS
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What the op is saying is bs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills. "
Communication skills are severely lacking on here, and moreover, in a social sense in the flesh as well. I blame the Internet.
And the parents. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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i meet if i fancy them |
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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills. "
The communication has clearly not lacked....look at the response??
We are now getting to the usual point of when some find it hard to converse eloquently or adequately they resort to accusations, insults and swearing.
Maybe a nerve has been touched..
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The simple balance is
How much do you want sex
verses
How much do you want your partner to look a specific way.
If sex wins then you are less picky, if looks win you are alot more picky
For some people setting up the fantasy is way more important than the sex itself, or the quantity of it.
Yes I have made this gender neutral |
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills.
The communication has clearly not lacked....look at the response??
We are now getting to the usual point of when some find it hard to converse eloquently or adequately they resort to accusations, insults and swearing.
Maybe a nerve has been touched..
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Oh, tu quoque? Huh. Yawn.
Try again. If you want to express an idea and everyone misses your point (you seem to think our responses are inadequate somehow), there's a chance that you've not communicated clearly enough. |
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When I see good looking women like you describing themselves as ugly I think maybe I'm on the wrong planet or maybe they changed the rules of beauty while I was asleep, I strive to look as good as I can but if your classed as ugly I'm never going to make it am I. |
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"Soooooo
Basically your suggesting that us people at the lower end of the chain ( as you put it) should gratefully and gleefully fuck anything that asks!
We should be gratefull that anyone with a pulse can look beyond our troll like appearance and imperfect figures.
Wow"
If we did this there would then be all these gorgeous people posting these kind of threads instead.
Imagine;
Come on piglet people. Stop fucking each other and give us models a chance. |
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"The simple balance is
How much do you want sex
verses
How much do you want your partner to look a specific way.
If sex wins then you are less picky, if looks win you are alot more picky
For some people setting up the fantasy is way more important than the sex itself, or the quantity of it.
Yes I have made this gender neutral "
Or sub for looks intelligence, respect, or anything else. |
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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Am I the only one that finds the idea of a food chain of attractiveness pretty repulsive?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I get messages where people wax lyrically about my beauty (barf) and messages telling me that I'd never get laid in real life because (insert insults here). And everything in between. There's no one hierarchy of this sort of thing, we're all individuals, and that's great. Except that it gives the OP the sads. |
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"Am I the only one that finds the idea of a food chain of attractiveness pretty repulsive?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I get messages where people wax lyrically about my beauty (barf) and messages telling me that I'd never get laid in real life because (insert insults here). And everything in between. There's no one hierarchy of this sort of thing, we're all individuals, and that's great. Except that it gives the OP the sads. "
I agree it is repulsive and it’s a shame many people see it that way and use it as ammunition for their rants. Also with you unfortunately there are people on here like that they get off on bringing people down. |
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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills.
The communication has clearly not lacked....look at the response??
We are now getting to the usual point of when some find it hard to converse eloquently or adequately they resort to accusations, insults and swearing.
Maybe a nerve has been touched..
Oh, tu quoque? Huh. Yawn.
Try again. If you want to express an idea and everyone misses your point (you seem to think our responses are inadequate somehow), there's a chance that you've not communicated clearly enough. "
Over thinking and obsessive analysing can often drive one past the real reason and continue a folly search in the mists of places where the answer is not.
There is an assumption that I have tried to express an idea that has been 'missed'... there is not!
The idea is apparent judging by the responses....
Grasshopper you must think around a subject and not just in it....there may lay the quest that is sought. |
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills.
The communication has clearly not lacked....look at the response??
We are now getting to the usual point of when some find it hard to converse eloquently or adequately they resort to accusations, insults and swearing.
Maybe a nerve has been touched..
Oh, tu quoque? Huh. Yawn.
Try again. If you want to express an idea and everyone misses your point (you seem to think our responses are inadequate somehow), there's a chance that you've not communicated clearly enough.
Over thinking and obsessive analysing can often drive one past the real reason and continue a folly search in the mists of places where the answer is not.
There is an assumption that I have tried to express an idea that has been 'missed'... there is not!
The idea is apparent judging by the responses....
Grasshopper you must think around a subject and not just in it....there may lay the quest that is sought. "
Quit with the riddles and give us a straight answer you are only ruining your own chances of getting a meet |
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"Even us ugly fuckers have a queue.
And us old, fat and ugly ones.
Maybe we should form our own exclusive club ? "
as an old fat woman....can I join please x |
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills.
The communication has clearly not lacked....look at the response??
We are now getting to the usual point of when some find it hard to converse eloquently or adequately they resort to accusations, insults and swearing.
Maybe a nerve has been touched..
Oh, tu quoque? Huh. Yawn.
Try again. If you want to express an idea and everyone misses your point (you seem to think our responses are inadequate somehow), there's a chance that you've not communicated clearly enough.
Over thinking and obsessive analysing can often drive one past the real reason and continue a folly search in the mists of places where the answer is not.
There is an assumption that I have tried to express an idea that has been 'missed'... there is not!
The idea is apparent judging by the responses....
Grasshopper you must think around a subject and not just in it....there may lay the quest that is sought. "
I'm quite happy with myself, but thanks for the unsolicited advice. |
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"When I see good looking women like you describing themselves as ugly I think maybe I'm on the wrong planet or maybe they changed the rules of beauty while I was asleep, I strive to look as good as I can but if your classed as ugly I'm never going to make it am I. "
I think people on the Forum just like to use their sense of humour and excite debate - don't believe everything you read here |
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"Even us ugly fuckers have a queue.
And us old, fat and ugly ones.
Maybe we should form our own exclusive club ? as an old fat woman....can I join please x"
Yes but it will be an exclusive club because we will be in high demand |
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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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"There's also the fact that if we're all woefully missing the point, maybe it's an issue with your communication skills.
The communication has clearly not lacked....look at the response??
We are now getting to the usual point of when some find it hard to converse eloquently or adequately they resort to accusations, insults and swearing.
Maybe a nerve has been touched..
Oh, tu quoque? Huh. Yawn.
Try again. If you want to express an idea and everyone misses your point (you seem to think our responses are inadequate somehow), there's a chance that you've not communicated clearly enough.
Over thinking and obsessive analysing can often drive one past the real reason and continue a folly search in the mists of places where the answer is not.
There is an assumption that I have tried to express an idea that has been 'missed'... there is not!
The idea is apparent judging by the responses....
Grasshopper you must think around a subject and not just in it....there may lay the quest that is sought.
Quit with the riddles and give us a straight answer you are only ruining your own chances of getting a meet"
Why are you so hung up on whether or not I get a meet?
Why do you think that I believe in my own 'intelligence' of which You, not I, have referred to?
You seem to be more consumed by my life on here than I am.
I do not give a rats arse whether I meet anyone here or not.
The riddle,as you put it, is perfectly simple but to reveal now would be comparable to opening a Christmas present on Christmas eve.
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"When I see good looking women like you describing themselves as ugly I think maybe I'm on the wrong planet or maybe they changed the rules of beauty while I was asleep, I strive to look as good as I can but if your classed as ugly I'm never going to make it am I.
I think people on the Forum just like to use their sense of humour and excite debate - don't believe everything you read here "
Yes but I was being serious, we're from Venus, men are from Mars which is a dry, dusty inhospitable place so what can we expect. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and most men can't see past skin level(surface). |
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It always amuses me when the guys who aren't getting any post a "holier than thou "rant against the women who are getting loads.
It must irk to see women who aren't supermodels having the temerity to get laid and to be choosy about who they pick...
I always think when I see yet another one of these bitter and twisted posts..if offends your sensibilities so much and you do so well elsewhere then ...go elsewhere.
You won't be missed.
I'll stay here and fill my boots.
Happy fabbing |
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"When I see good looking women like you describing themselves as ugly I think maybe I'm on the wrong planet or maybe they changed the rules of beauty while I was asleep, I strive to look as good as I can but if your classed as ugly I'm never going to make it am I.
I think people on the Forum just like to use their sense of humour and excite debate - don't believe everything you read here
Yes but I was being serious, we're from Venus, men are from Mars which is a dry, dusty inhospitable place so what can we expect. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and most men can't see past skin level(surface)."
That's why I love blindfolds so only touch informs your brain. |
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"Oh lord, the only thing I hate more than an ignoramus is a smug pseudo intellectual. Good grief.
I think smug is a little uncalled for. Pseudo I can live with... mmm Phil Collins....
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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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"It always amuses me when the guys who aren't getting any post a "holier than thou "rant against the women who are getting loads.
It must irk to see women who aren't supermodels having the temerity to get laid and to be choosy about who they pick...
I always think when I see yet another one of these bitter and twisted posts..if offends your sensibilities so much and you do so well elsewhere then ...go elsewhere.
You won't be missed.
I'll stay here and fill my boots.
Happy fabbing "
Why do you assume that because a viable question is raised that the person who has instigated the subject actually has anything to do with the topic?
Why do you go on to presume that the individual enquiring 'isn't getting any?'
Being assumptive and jumping to conclusions is a fairly narrow minded way to live .... I think.
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"Oh lord, the only thing I hate more than an ignoramus is a smug pseudo intellectual. Good grief.
I think smug is a little uncalled for. Pseudo I can live with... mmm Phil Collins....
You do know that Pseudo is a different way of putting something and not a type of music don't you, just checking cos you are just a bloke."
Thanks for that, all advice is genuinely appreciated especially when it is delicately coated with irony.
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"Surly this site is all about fun sex and ticking off a few fantasies let people set whatever they want as a preference....."
Oh it’s so much more for me but yes, preferences are up to the person and nothing wrong with that. |
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"I always wonder why people say “it’s only sex” as if it negates attraction and quality.
I will never have sex with someone I’m not attracted to physically and mentally. "
Yep. Surely the whole point of sex is to confirm that you find someone alluring and attractive enough to want to get naked with. |
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By *picknspan OP Man
over a year ago
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Well, it has been really interesting to read all of your comments about this totally superfluous subject.
The bearing of which will have precisely zero influence on my life and I would humbly suggest yours too.
It is always a particular joy of mine to see how folk will react and hence why the subject is always set to that design alone.
I am always interested to see how furtive the human psyche will become when a small 'grenade' is rolled into a 'room' like the forum. It embattles individuals to reveal their inner self and sound out their defences and ideologies.
The 'riddle' was nothing more than a playful attempt to wreak chaos and demonstration against a topic that holds no interest to me whatsoever. Truly I couldn't give a toss about the implied concern or question raised at the outset.
It has been nothing more than a pointless exercise, on my part, to both while away some free time and see how it transpired.
Thanks for your input and for now, I have much more important things to tend to.
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"Well, it has been really interesting to read all of your comments about this totally superfluous subject.
The bearing of which will have precisely zero influence on my life and I would humbly suggest yours too.
It is always a particular joy of mine to see how folk will react and hence why the subject is always set to that design alone.
I am always interested to see how furtive the human psyche will become when a small 'grenade' is rolled into a 'room' like the forum. It embattles individuals to reveal their inner self and sound out their defences and ideologies.
The 'riddle' was nothing more than a playful attempt to wreak chaos and demonstration against a topic that holds no interest to me whatsoever. Truly I couldn't give a toss about the implied concern or question raised at the outset.
It has been nothing more than a pointless exercise, on my part, to both while away some free time and see how it transpired.
Thanks for your input and for now, I have much more important things to tend to.
????
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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago
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"It always amuses me when the guys who aren't getting any post a "holier than thou "rant against the women who are getting loads.
It must irk to see women who aren't supermodels having the temerity to get laid and to be choosy about who they pick...
I always think when I see yet another one of these bitter and twisted posts..if offends your sensibilities so much and you do so well elsewhere then ...go elsewhere.
You won't be missed.
I'll stay here and fill my boots.
Happy fabbing
Why do you assume that because a viable question is raised that the person who has instigated the subject actually has anything to do with the topic?
Why do you go on to presume that the individual enquiring 'isn't getting any?'
Being assumptive and jumping to conclusions is a fairly narrow minded way to live .... I think.
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Because I’ve yet they see a post by a man saying
“ women please stop contacting me as I can’t keep up with all these offers of sex. I’m now booked up 7 days a week for the next 6 months”
Or
“God I hate this site. I’m getting too much sex”
What you do see ate posts like these. Which are basically men finding reasons to blame others for their lack of meetings. |
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"It always amuses me when the guys who aren't getting any post a "holier than thou "rant against the women who are getting loads.
It must irk to see women who aren't supermodels having the temerity to get laid and to be choosy about who they pick...
I always think when I see yet another one of these bitter and twisted posts..if offends your sensibilities so much and you do so well elsewhere then ...go elsewhere.
You won't be missed.
I'll stay here and fill my boots.
Happy fabbing
Why do you assume that because a viable question is raised that the person who has instigated the subject actually has anything to do with the topic?
Why do you go on to presume that the individual enquiring 'isn't getting any?'
Being assumptive and jumping to conclusions is a fairly narrow minded way to live .... I think.
Because I’ve yet they see a post by a man saying
“ women please stop contacting me as I can’t keep up with all these offers of sex. I’m now booked up 7 days a week for the next 6 months”
Or
“God I hate this site. I’m getting too much sex”
What you do see ate posts like these. Which are basically men finding reasons to blame others for their lack of meetings. "
Nah. He's just an intellectual god trying to prove a point that only he understands (but not because of his poor communication skills!) to the plebs around here. He has no emotional investment in this. Nuh uh. And so's your mum. |
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Wow sounds like your very bitter....
So let me get this straight just because you consider someone unattractive they should not have a choice who they want to be with they should take anything and be happy with it.
Unfortunately for you they do have a choice and should not just lay on there back to keep people like you happy.
Sadly it's guy's like you why I'm glad women do have a choice on here. You seem to have missed a point here we all have a choice on who and when there's also the fact that men outnumber women on here.
Just maybe there just that not into you. There are other places and sites you could try instead. |
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"Well, it has been really interesting to read all of your comments about this totally superfluous subject.
The bearing of which will have precisely zero influence on my life and I would humbly suggest yours too.
It is always a particular joy of mine to see how folk will react and hence why the subject is always set to that design alone.
I am always interested to see how furtive the human psyche will become when a small 'grenade' is rolled into a 'room' like the forum. It embattles individuals to reveal their inner self and sound out their defences and ideologies.
The 'riddle' was nothing more than a playful attempt to wreak chaos and demonstration against a topic that holds no interest to me whatsoever. Truly I couldn't give a toss about the implied concern or question raised at the outset.
It has been nothing more than a pointless exercise, on my part, to both while away some free time and see how it transpired.
Thanks for your input and for now, I have much more important things to tend to.
????
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Off to set up his train set in the loft. |
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I am afraid the OP appears to enjoy using long words in order to appear as if he has an informed opinion but is actually just a wind up merchant looking for attention and then, realising he can’t follow through he feigns boredom and disinterest....disingenuous at least and a bit of a bore really |
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It’s a hard lesson for guys to learn on here. Lots of men, few women. Women of all shapes, sizes and appearance have lots of interest. Guys just don’t, period.
Put it this way, if you were a fat, old guy with a tiny dick and still had 200 messages a day it would afford you some filters to make it easier to choose. It’s pretty straight forward. |
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"1. We can.
2. Narrowing things down still leaves more men than I can probably fuck in one lifetime
3. Sometimes no sex or the battery operated boyfriend is better than lowering your standards
4. Some of the creatures on Fab make you realise that high standards are an excellent thing, for your sanity, self-respect, and safety. "
their you have it guys this is the answer in black and white as to why if you're struggling you're struggling |
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By *irginieWoman
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"I am afraid the OP appears to enjoy using long words in order to appear as if he has an informed opinion but is actually just a wind up merchant looking for attention and then, realising he can’t follow through he feigns boredom and disinterest....disingenuous at least and a bit of a bore really"
Not even really very long words just a load of fucking nonsense.
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"I am afraid the OP appears to enjoy using long words in order to appear as if he has an informed opinion but is actually just a wind up merchant looking for attention and then, realising he can’t follow through he feigns boredom and disinterest....disingenuous at least and a bit of a bore really
Not even really very long words just a load of fucking nonsense.
V x "
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"Okay, this is a long introduction and ultimately a question, that you may wish to give your opinion of.
Sit back for a moment, put up your feet and reach for the popcorn...
Firstly, to try and cover off some caveats that may well stream into the potential forth coming debate;
1)It may apply to men too
2)They are only laying down parameters
3)It is their option to do this
4)Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
5)It's only sex at the end of the day
Now that maybe some of the more likely immediate defences have been laid open and therefore really do not need to be reapplied, here is my point/question;-
Why is it that some women (1) on here lay down rules (2) to obliterate the option of contact with most of the potential men even when they are clearly very unattractive(4)?
Do they not realise that being as they are they will already only appeal to a very small percentage of suitors? By applying such rules as '6ft tall' 'hung' 'no dick pics' 'fit only' 'No married' And so on..... the few who might have been interested in a nsa (5) meet are now probably excluded (3).
It is understandable that the women who are attractive with beautiful figures can do this as they will have the absolute pick of the crop anyway, so they may as well remove the dross.
Let's be clear, we all know if we are ugly, plain, ordinary, average, fairly decent or good looking.... life in general tells us this.
So why do those in the lower end of the 'attraction food chain' insist on making it even more difficult for themselves?
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how is what they are doing affecting you in any way? If you find them unattractive and at the lower and of the food chain surely you'll be leaving them alone and finding people you deem worthy of your attention... |
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