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Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet... |
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Well I guess it depends who the verifications are from .
Some people have great sex but aren’t good with words , so the veris wouldn’t be great .
Some give great veris but the sex wasn’t all that .
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over a year ago
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"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet..."
But not all of us want to be verified after every meet, so it doesn't look like we have had half of fab  |
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By *werty38Man
over a year ago
Staffordshire |
"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet...
But not all of us want to be verified after every meet, so it doesn't look like we have had half of fab "
Totally agree. I have 20 odd verifications but what does that tell you ? I’ve been going to clubs for 20 odd years and have lots of friends as a result.
Just wondering if the boot was on the other foot and a male posted the OP about a ladys profile what the reaction would be ?? |
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"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet...
But not all of us want to be verified after every meet, so it doesn't look like we have had half of fab
Totally agree. I have 20 odd verifications but what does that tell you ? I’ve been going to clubs for 20 odd years and have lots of friends as a result.
Just wondering if the boot was on the other foot and a male posted the OP about a ladys profile what the reaction would be ?? "
We don't meet single women so i have no direct experience of how reliable they are. I can tell you that there's a big problem with single guys who actually turn up, washed. |
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So OP, are you asking for a points based verification system?
Veris are all different depending on who wrote them and also who is reading them. One person's 'massive cock' is another person's 'do big it hurts cock'
Also, a prolific guy who has no standards at all could easily rack up a fair few meets, but the more selective, caring guys lose out.
And finally. What about social veris? I attend clubs so some veris are social only, other play meets don't even have veris.
Basically, for something so personal as sex, it wouldn't work. |
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By *affa88Man
over a year ago
Salford |
"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet...
But not all of us want to be verified after every meet, so it doesn't look like we have had half of fab
Totally agree. I have 20 odd verifications but what does that tell you ? I’ve been going to clubs for 20 odd years and have lots of friends as a result.
Just wondering if the boot was on the other foot and a male posted the OP about a ladys profile what the reaction would be ??
We don't meet single women so i have no direct experience of how reliable they are. I can tell you that there's a big problem with single guys who actually turn up, washed. "
Does this happen? Single guys not turning up? I can't fathom that one out, its hard enough to get a bloody meet so why bail out on one I don't get it.
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"So OP, are you asking for a points based verification system?
Veris are all different depending on who wrote them and also who is reading them. One person's 'massive cock' is another person's 'do big it hurts cock'
Also, a prolific guy who has no standards at all could easily rack up a fair few meets, but the more selective, caring guys lose out.
And finally. What about social veris? I attend clubs so some veris are social only, other play meets don't even have veris.
Basically, for something so personal as sex, it wouldn't work."
Yes and social verifications would get minimal weighting |
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"So OP, are you asking for a points based verification system?
Veris are all different depending on who wrote them and also who is reading them. One person's 'massive cock' is another person's 'do big it hurts cock'
Also, a prolific guy who has no standards at all could easily rack up a fair few meets, but the more selective, caring guys lose out.
And finally. What about social veris? I attend clubs so some veris are social only, other play meets don't even have veris.
Basically, for something so personal as sex, it wouldn't work.
Yes and social verifications would get minimal weighting"
Ok, so, not to sound arsey (although I know this will sound bad)
Because I choose who to play with and value quality over quantity then in your list of guys someone like me would never score high? Although attending clubs, understanding and participating in most kinks, fantastic sexual stamina and variety, always being where I say I will be, no pressure....
On your list, all these virtues will be lost, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but is that not what you ladies are actually looking for??? |
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over a year ago
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"Has anyone ever seen a bad verification 
Nah but when you see the ones that say "pleasant" "turned up on time" etc you can read between the lines a bit. "
Had lovely shoes! |
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over a year ago
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This would just make veris even more fabricated than they are now! I never read a veri as every sexual experience is different plus who is going to show a bad veri?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet..."
In a nutshell, no, it's not a good idea at all as it wouldn't work. |
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"So OP, are you asking for a points based verification system?
Veris are all different depending on who wrote them and also who is reading them. One person's 'massive cock' is another person's 'do big it hurts cock'
Also, a prolific guy who has no standards at all could easily rack up a fair few meets, but the more selective, caring guys lose out.
And finally. What about social veris? I attend clubs so some veris are social only, other play meets don't even have veris.
Basically, for something so personal as sex, it wouldn't work.
Yes and social verifications would get minimal weighting
Ok, so, not to sound arsey (although I know this will sound bad)
Because I choose who to play with and value quality over quantity then in your list of guys someone like me would never score high? Although attending clubs, understanding and participating in most kinks, fantastic sexual stamina and variety, always being where I say I will be, no pressure....
On your list, all these virtues will be lost, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but is that not what you ladies are actually looking for???"
It's a good point, think of it like top 10 lists for films which are sub divided by genre. Yes sometimes ladies want that and sometimes they want a rock solid cock with a sick pack attached to it. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"I see guys with amazing veris but not my type at all
I would prefer more filters for searching myself rather than what others go on
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Exactly! What some find really attractive are not attractive to me in the slightest, so why do people go off other peoples views?  |
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"I see guys with amazing veris but not my type at all
I would prefer more filters for searching myself rather than what others go on
Exactly! What some find really attractive are not attractive to me in the slightest, so why do people go off other peoples views? "
I am never interested in what the veris say more in who’s given them really
You can tell a lot by the people they meet  |
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"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet...
But not all of us want to be verified after every meet, so it doesn't look like we have had half of fab
Totally agree. I have 20 odd verifications but what does that tell you ? I’ve been going to clubs for 20 odd years and have lots of friends as a result.
Just wondering if the boot was on the other foot and a male posted the OP about a ladys profile what the reaction would be ??
We don't meet single women so i have no direct experience of how reliable they are. I can tell you that there's a big problem with single guys who actually turn up, washed.
Does this happen? Single guys not turning up? I can't fathom that one out, its hard enough to get a bloody meet so why bail out on one I don't get it.
J x"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro |
"In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost "
or they just leave taking the verification with them.... |
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"In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost "
Well for a swinger that's not really a recommendation at all! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Will Radio 1 be doing a weekly rundown of the top 10...
"New at #1, up two places after a successful gangbang it's...""
Have the charts theme tune in my head now... ear wormed! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost
Well for a swinger that's not really a recommendation at all!"
I think you'd be surprised by the amount of swingers who would quite happily quit Fab, even if only for a while, if they managed to find one or two singles or couples who were really their cup of tea |
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"In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost
Well for a swinger that's not really a recommendation at all!
I think you'd be surprised by the amount of swingers who would quite happily quit Fab, even if only for a while, if they managed to find one or two singles or couples who were really their cup of tea "
Sure, but that's a different matter. We'd quit to be part of a special circle of swingers who agreed not to play outside the group. But there are a lot of people who would quit fab and be monogamous and they simply aren't swingers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Absolutely would be worthless to be honest, be just another popularity contest rather than truly subjective. Recently read a women's profile and verifications, all three veris were just from her partner!  |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro |
"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag..."
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left  not that I had many anyhow. |
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"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow."
Ah, didn't realise that's what it is! |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro |
"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow.
Ah, didn't realise that's what it is!"
Yes you could be right but Im just pointing out another reason. Verifications mean little anyhow most are hidden or never written cant always believe what you see. |
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"In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost
Well for a swinger that's not really a recommendation at all!
I think you'd be surprised by the amount of swingers who would quite happily quit Fab, even if only for a while, if they managed to find one or two singles or couples who were really their cup of tea
Sure, but that's a different matter. We'd quit to be part of a special circle of swingers who agreed not to play outside the group. But there are a lot of people who would quit fab and be monogamous and they simply aren't swingers."
I'm still here... yet you say because she quit (because I was so blindingly sexy )... then that's not a good recommendation for me as a swinger? I'm still here.
Verifications are full of bs. According to every one of them they're "the best bj in the world" or "treat her with respect" blah blah blah. It's all just hype where people use meeting one person as a springboard to try and meet someone else. I think the hidden truth is that most of the best people on here either don't want to do that, are quite happy staying with who they've met because who they've met is so awesome, or may even log off for a while so they can have a much needed break from the madness of Fab and just enjoy meeting their new super sexy friends for a while. That, to me, is the best recommendation possible.
Yet, just as with me, you're all none the wiser and only have my word to take for it. If it's happened to me (and I'm not all that amazing even though I try haha ) then I'm pretty sure it must be happening to most of the good guys |
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over a year ago
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"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow."
I can see I'm going to have to come down to Plymouth and rectify that |
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I think you’d be bettter off checking the verifications people have left rather than those they’ve received. They tend to say more about the personality of the person..
A discrepancy between displayed number and total number can be because people have left or even blocked you. Also check whether the profile at that time has changed. For example, I’m verified by a guy, but one I’ve never met!! Nothing really fishy there the profile was originally a couple, and I only met the girl. Later they changed back to single profiles. So, despite being totally straight I have a glowing verification from a guy!! (At the time he was watching his girlfriend on cam) |
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro |
"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow.
I can see I'm going to have to come down to Plymouth and rectify that "
You wont be here long after that hah |
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over a year ago
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"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow.
I can see I'm going to have to come down to Plymouth and rectify that
You wont be here long after that hah "
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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago
Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro |
"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow.
I can see I'm going to have to come down to Plymouth and rectify that
You wont be here long after that hah
Ah ha the curse of the spider woman Now there's a title for a wee novella "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow.
I can see I'm going to have to come down to Plymouth and rectify that
You wont be here long after that hah
Ah ha the curse of the spider woman Now there's a title for a wee novella
Chapter One: Catch me if you can "
Chapter Two: The spider eats her mate
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not to mention the process of determining what a good verification is . No one seems to agree on that do they ?
No but Amazon manages so I'm sure we could come up with something. "
Bloody brilliant idea |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I see guys with amazing veris but not my type at all
I would prefer more filters for searching myself rather than what others go on
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More filters also a good idea |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Has anyone ever seen a bad verification
Nah but when you see the ones that say "pleasant" "turned up on time" etc you can read between the lines a bit. "
and then the counter arguement to this is that all a verification needs to be is that they are who they say they are, and they showed up.... that is factual
everything else is subjective....
you and the people you meet may not be compatible for a million reason it doesn't mean they were bad
i hate really detailed veri's because i don't need to know the ins and outs, don;t care if someone sucks like a dyson! don't care if someone gushes for england! if i need a running commentary i'd hire john motson!
too much detail is bad for some, too little detail for is bad for others...
who decideds whats good... whats bad... whats inbetween...
subjective subjective subjective........ |
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A lot of people on fab forums have a problem separating something that is perfect and something that is useful. The law of averages is pretty useful and whilst there are many reasons you might not click with a given individual, when you fail to click with 9/10 people you meet then it's probably an issue with your personality! Probably. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"A lot of people on fab forums have a problem separating something that is perfect and something that is useful. The law of averages is pretty useful and whilst there are many reasons you might not click with a given individual, when you fail to click with 9/10 people you meet then it's probably an issue with your personality! Probably. "
something that is useful... you mean like common sense, which a lot of people here seem to disregard and want the site to do their job for them....
it swings both ways........
say if you have a not fabulous meet with one of your "top 15".... are people going to blame the site again...
whats the top 15 based on.... personality, just sex, sucking like a dyson? |
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"A lot of people on fab forums have a problem separating something that is perfect and something that is useful. The law of averages is pretty useful and whilst there are many reasons you might not click with a given individual, when you fail to click with 9/10 people you meet then it's probably an issue with your personality! Probably.
something that is useful... you mean like common sense, which a lot of people here seem to disregard and want the site to do their job for them....
it swings both ways........
say if you have a not fabulous meet with one of your "top 15".... are people going to blame the site again...
whats the top 15 based on.... personality, just sex, sucking like a dyson? "
As i say, there's no inherent limit to the number of top 10 lists you can have. There can be a top 10 'sucks like a dyson' members list and a top 10 charmers list. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet..."
That’s a good idea... I better start getting my verifications again since returning! |
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"A lot of people on fab forums have a problem separating something that is perfect and something that is useful. The law of averages is pretty useful and whilst there are many reasons you might not click with a given individual, when you fail to click with 9/10 people you meet then it's probably an issue with your personality! Probably.
something that is useful... you mean like common sense, which a lot of people here seem to disregard and want the site to do their job for them....
it swings both ways........
say if you have a not fabulous meet with one of your "top 15".... are people going to blame the site again...
whats the top 15 based on.... personality, just sex, sucking like a dyson?
As i say, there's no inherent limit to the number of top 10 lists you can have. There can be a top 10 'sucks like a dyson' members list and a top 10 charmers list."
I’m definitely on the top ten ‘Can chat shit for hours!’ List! Can we have one of those? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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any all verifications ive read are exactly the same pretty much
sucks like a porn star
treat them with the respect they deserve (loool)
fun in and out the bedroom
what we got up to stays between us
pussy tasted sweet
they are all pretty much the same |
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"A lot of people on fab forums have a problem separating something that is perfect and something that is useful. The law of averages is pretty useful and whilst there are many reasons you might not click with a given individual, when you fail to click with 9/10 people you meet then it's probably an issue with your personality! Probably.
something that is useful... you mean like common sense, which a lot of people here seem to disregard and want the site to do their job for them....
it swings both ways........
say if you have a not fabulous meet with one of your "top 15".... are people going to blame the site again...
whats the top 15 based on.... personality, just sex, sucking like a dyson?
As i say, there's no inherent limit to the number of top 10 lists you can have. There can be a top 10 'sucks like a dyson' members list and a top 10 charmers list.
I’m definitely on the top ten ‘Can chat shit for hours!’ List! Can we have one of those? "
Sure, fill yer boots |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
"A lot of people on fab forums have a problem separating something that is perfect and something that is useful. The law of averages is pretty useful and whilst there are many reasons you might not click with a given individual, when you fail to click with 9/10 people you meet then it's probably an issue with your personality! Probably.
something that is useful... you mean like common sense, which a lot of people here seem to disregard and want the site to do their job for them....
it swings both ways........
say if you have a not fabulous meet with one of your "top 15".... are people going to blame the site again...
whats the top 15 based on.... personality, just sex, sucking like a dyson?
As i say, there's no inherent limit to the number of top 10 lists you can have. There can be a top 10 'sucks like a dyson' members list and a top 10 charmers list.
I’m definitely on the top ten ‘Can chat shit for hours!’ List! Can we have one of those? "
I'd probably join you on that list |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My top 15 men will be different to many other's top 15.
Time after time I've seen people write they do quality over quantity and are picky/choosy, yet, when I look at who they have met I think, nope, not in my book you don't. |
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"Or you can have ‘too many’ veris like me and get disregarded. Although 90% of them are social veris. "
Yep; I've had the "sorry, you're too active for me" replies too.
Geography is my biggest enemy though, and I'm willing to bet none of the Top 10 live outside a major city |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
Maybe there should be a fab voting system to find out lol then join a very big queue to meet, although I don't have a type I'm sure I would vote differently than a lot of others |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wouldn't this be a great site feature? To be able to search for guys with the best verifications...
We have a hotlist full of them to perv at, but always wonder if there are others with 15+ high quality verifications we haven't discovered yet..."
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over a year ago
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This whole aspect of Fab is such a fudge. What good is the recommendation of someone who, themselves, may be awful or a fantasist? All that's needed is a 5 star rating system to say they were ok. Yet you know even that's pointless as everyone would be giving each other 5 stars. The whole thing is just a show to try and sell themselves as wonderful by painting every meet they've ever had as absolutely amazing.
Word of mouth is better but there's seldom any fabric to the swinging "community". Few who are comfortable making friends. In the end absolutely nothing can replace just meeting people *and giving them half a chance*. I can't emphasise that enough. People on here are too quick to move on to the next profile and the whole thing becomes a blur.
The whole thing would probably work better if Fab randomly hooked you up with one compatible local profile a week, hid everyone else from you, and you just had to make the best of that. Maybe then people would connect more and give each other the opportunity to get in each other's minds. |
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"Never seen a bad veri, and why would you choose to display it anyway?
True but the numbers show up (total verifications vrs shown) and that's a red flag...
Not always as sometimes they leave the site. I only have two left not that I had many anyhow.
Ah, didn't realise that's what it is!"
Quite true. It's amazing how many leave the site in a couple of years really.
For example I have 22 veris on my profile, but if all site leavers were included I'd have 51? Though 1 of them just by cam admittedly.
Quite a few of them were bloody lovely too, more's the pity! |
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"In the last couple of months of being on here I had such a successful social with a lovely woman that it ended with her staring passionately at me and saying "I think I've just found my reason to quit Fab". I don't know about you but I couldn't imagine a better recommendation than that. Unfortunately she did exactly that and, even though we've since met to have a wonderfully debauched evening together, Fab is none the wiser. I wonder how many of the good guys could say the same
Veris are overrated. Once you've got one or two the rest are just notches on the bedpost
Well for a swinger that's not really a recommendation at all!
I think you'd be surprised by the amount of swingers who would quite happily quit Fab, even if only for a while, if they managed to find one or two singles or couples who were really their cup of tea
Sure, but that's a different matter. We'd quit to be part of a special circle of swingers who agreed not to play outside the group. But there are a lot of people who would quit fab and be monogamous and they simply aren't swingers.
I'm still here... yet you say because she quit (because I was so blindingly sexy )... then that's not a good recommendation for me as a swinger? I'm still here.
Verifications are full of bs. According to every one of them they're "the best bj in the world" or "treat her with respect" blah blah blah. It's all just hype where people use meeting one person as a springboard to try and meet someone else. I think the hidden truth is that most of the best people on here either don't want to do that, are quite happy staying with who they've met because who they've met is so awesome, or may even log off for a while so they can have a much needed break from the madness of Fab and just enjoy meeting their new super sexy friends for a while. That, to me, is the best recommendation possible.
Yet, just as with me, you're all none the wiser and only have my word to take for it. If it's happened to me (and I'm not all that amazing even though I try haha ) then I'm pretty sure it must be happening to most of the good guys "
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I’ve also read a few of my own OTT veris and thought ‘fuck - that sounds amazing! Wish I’d been there!’ 