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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice.

I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to.

Let me explain with an example...

2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi.

The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc.

So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off?

Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Choice, I imagine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Choice, I imagine. "
Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom. "
I think anyone (non-monogamous) who refuses to wear a condom is a total fucking idiot, regardless of their sexual preference.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

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What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its just a choice..

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By *anDare70Man  over a year ago

kirkby

On the other hand useful

Because it means bi guys know they won’t get to play with the fella.

That might be good to know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's an individuals prerogative.... some don't want to meet bi guys, some do. Some may feel threatened by us, others not.... It's the wonderful diverse world we live in

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Also saying ‘no bi guys’ makes it easier for both them and me.

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By *callycatMan  over a year ago

Mid Wales

There are plenty of couples who are specifically looking for bi guys so it's not really an issue.

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By *essica jamiesonWoman  over a year ago

edinburgh

Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females?

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By *pl4realfunmeetsCouple  over a year ago

Somewhere in South Ayrshire

as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. "
outrageous

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? "
I'm a guy, I know how men think.

(#yesallmen)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not homophobia then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont meet bi guys.. my choice

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? "

Trust me there aren't any!

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. "

Probably around 80% of men that message me on here have their profiles set to straight and they pretty much always say that it's because women and couples won't meet them if their profile says bi. So all these people against bi people have probably played with one without even knowing, were not disease riddled gremlins.

However as one of the posts says above they won't meet bi men because they have a higher chance of HIV and men they meet refuse to wear condoms, then it's your fault for not making them, I wouldn't bareback with anyone, man or woman so my chances of being squeeky clean are much higher than you who are meeting 'straight' men bareback

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ive seen lots of veris on here from so called straight guys who I know are bi

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

So I asked people to explain their choices, and an amount of people have just said "it's a choice" without actually explaining what influences that choice.

Others have dismissed bi men as too much of a disease risk -- thus making a prejudiced assumption that none of them practice safe sex, or that they always do anal.

So, to me this seems seems like a case of "I'm not homophobic but...." without wanting to admit that they're just homophobic.

Some very prehistoric attitudes on here.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Not homophobia then?"
nah, bi phobia maybe?

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By *winger212Woman  over a year ago

Live in spain

Haha mine says bi guys only

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Of course, there are also the straight guys who will cross the tracks for the benefit of the female etc.

Same applies to females too - I've met plenty of straight women who will cross the tracks for the sake of an adventure.

sexuality can't easily be defined by clear labelling

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bookmarked for interesting reading.

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By *xtwinklesxxWoman  over a year ago

nottinghamshire

I prefer to meet bi men and all the ones I have met were totally fine wearing a condom, I have had more straight men wanting to go bareback, but they got always got and always will get told no condom no entry. And also I find bi men more sensual and much much better at anal. Maybe a little off topic but just how I have found things xx

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some people don't like the thought of a man fucking another man's butt or kissing and sucking another man.

Some are trying to reduce their risk of catching a serious STI.

Some don't want a bi man to try it on with the male of the couple.

All these reasons I understand and respect.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I asked people to explain their choices, and an amount of people have just said "it's a choice" without actually explaining what influences that choice.

Others have dismissed bi men as too much of a disease risk -- thus making a prejudiced assumption that none of them practice safe sex, or that they always do anal.

So, to me this seems seems like a case of "I'm not homophobic but...." without wanting to admit that they're just homophobic.

Some very prehistoric attitudes on here. "

That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

The best way is to use everything you know and take the risks you want.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? "
Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded."

its not prejudiced.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

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I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"its not prejudiced. "
Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded."

plus not everyone claims to to be open minded

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"its not prejudiced. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice."

maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"plus not everyone claims to to be open minded"
Well yeah, bad choice of words on my part, but I would have imagined more sexual open mindedness on a swingers website.

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By *estbedCouple  over a year ago

essex

I'm a regular blood donor & it is a donation screener... Used to have to wait 12 months after sexual contact with Bi male, now reduced to 3 months I think.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded."

No we’re not, nor will we ever be as these are unfortunately traits of human nature, so arseholes with them will always exist

Don’t go to war with them, leave them to hang them selves

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. "
A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons.

Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"its not prejudiced. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice."

So what it it’s just a personal choice they make as part of their precautions to reduce the risk STI and as nothing to do with bias against no men and they’ll openly socialise with bi men, are they still prejudice?

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By *uriousCouple999Couple  over a year ago

edinburgh


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. "

This is our experience to, most of our messages are from straight guys saying they are bi but won't put it on their profile incase they don't get meets and also a few of them are well verified, so for people who say they won't meet bi guys, how do you really know! Mrs x

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

For someone championing open mindedness OP, you’re being pretty closed minded to the fact you see it as nothing more the prejudice

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons.

Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post."

We explained our reasoning. So have many others. Maybe you don't agree, but you have your answers.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

We wouldn't want a bi guy because my man's straight.. seen this so many times. Stop over thinking it and pick a profile that is looking for bi men

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling."

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons.

Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post."

The reason I said it’s their choice is because that’s what it is. The reason lies with those who make the decision. I don’t care if they are prejudiced- it’s their decision no matter what the reason is behind it. If they don’t want you, find someone who does.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons.

Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post.

The reason I said it’s their choice is because that’s what it is. The reason lies with those who make the decision. I don’t care if they are prejudiced- it’s their decision no matter what the reason is behind it. If they don’t want you, find someone who does. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex."

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. "

As a bi MF couple only looking for bi people, we can say 99.9% of our messages are from ‘straight’ guys who tell us they won’t put bi on their profiles as it puts some others off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females?

Trust me there aren't any!"

Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. "

this. And make sure you avoid swingers too as they are the same risk.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. "

Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with?

You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure?

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It’s safest to just have a wank in bed.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females?

Trust me there aren't any!

Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. "

lucky u lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females?

Trust me there aren't any!

Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. lucky u lol"

My other half is a straight female. Bi females who won’t take no for an answer are not what we seek.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females?

Trust me there aren't any!

Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. lucky u lol

My other half is a straight female. Bi females who won’t take no for an answer are not what we seek. "

send them our way haha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op Swinging is a bloodsport , there is no need for someone to explain why they don’t like something sexually...

But I always wanted , someone to explain to me... Why no one liked black licorice candy as a children?

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Op Swinging is a bloodsport , there is no need for someone to explain why they don’t like something sexually...

But I always wanted , someone to explain to me... Why no one liked black licorice candy as a children? "

or y u never see white dog shit nowadays

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

this. And make sure you avoid swingers too as they are the same risk. "

Not if they don't do anal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"its not prejudiced. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice."

Many often assume prejudice with whatever is said with many 'hot' topics because

(1) they have focused too much on the negative dialogue

(2) they assume too much into what the other has said and sometimes it's more that the reply may have been unclear.

(3) they don't have the same experience or knowledge that the other has had.

(4) they may hold a preducice themselves a bot the topic or person who responded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with?

You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure?

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It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men.

People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

OP, as someone who is openly and fully bisexual, I totally accept that there are some people that don't meet me because of it, it's their preference, their choice and ultimately their prerogative - the reasons for it don't really matter to me unless they display some level of bigoted homophobia towards me, or openly here on the forums. Other than that the reasons are wide and varied - from the male half of the couple feeling uncomfortable being naked around another guy (even if it is abundantly clear that the bi guy will not overstep boundaries) to the fact that blood donations are not accepted if you've had sex with a bisexual or gay man in the past 3 months, and many other reasons in between.

Do people expressing those opinions bother me or spoil my enjoyment of the site? Not one tiny bit - for every lady or couple that won't meet bi guys there are just as many that actively seek us (which is why I don't understand the Fab straight phenomenon as those that identify as straight "to get meets", but are really bi are actually closing as many doors as they open), so I prefer to focus my attentions on those that will meet me rather than worry about those that won't

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with?

You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure?

It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men.

People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others.

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HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with?

You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure?

It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men.

People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others.

HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best."

They were stating that's the highest risk activity... You've probably just added more to their comment which they may wanted to add but chose not too in case they come across as predudiced to some on here. That's how I read it it anyway.0

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them.

Probably around 80% of men that message me on here have their profiles set to straight and they pretty much always say that it's because women and couples won't meet them if their profile says bi. So all these people against bi people have probably played with one without even knowing, were not disease riddled gremlins.

However as one of the posts says above they won't meet bi men because they have a higher chance of HIV and men they meet refuse to wear condoms, then it's your fault for not making them, I wouldn't bareback with anyone, man or woman so my chances of being squeeky clean are much higher than you who are meeting 'straight' men bareback"

Very well put x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As a straight guy I’m completely honest in stating I’ve had fantasies about sex in a group which included activities with other men. Does that make me bi-Curious, well fine. Right???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women."

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women."

Not for all of us

My other half is bi bloody love it

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it "

I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?"

I do

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?"

63% is a majority I think.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think."

hahaha where u getting them stats from

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think."

Plucking numbers out of mid air is not an accepted statistical measurement - at least it wasn't the last time I checked

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think.hahaha where u getting them stats from "

Sydney University of course

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think.hahaha where u getting them stats from

Sydney University of course "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think.hahaha where u getting them stats from

Sydney University of course "

74% of all stats are made up on the spot.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Well in the interests of using this thread as an indication - of the women and couples that have openly declared they will or won't meet bi men the count is currently at 6-3 in favour of those that will meet us - so around 66% which I would declare a majority

And yes before anyone says it, I really am that sad!!

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think."

60% of the time it works. Every time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think.

Plucking numbers out of mid air is not an accepted statistical measurement - at least it wasn't the last time I checked "

They've done studies and shit.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

Mathematical bullshit hahaha love it

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By *eral SexMan  over a year ago

Port Talbot

I think it's plain that those who dislike the idea of sex with bi men have no rational reason for their dislike; their arguments crumble at the first analysis, but they don't have to do it, and they're entitled to feel their dislike.

The notion that a guy who shares DP with another guy and a lady is somehow 'straight' is hilarious though. I wonder how many of the women here who consider their husbands to be totally straight would be shocked at what's really going through their minds during a meet.

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"I think it's plain that those who dislike the idea of sex with bi men have no rational reason for their dislike; their arguments crumble at the first analysis, but they don't have to do it, and they're entitled to feel their dislike.

The notion that a guy who shares DP with another guy and a lady is somehow 'straight' is hilarious though. I wonder how many of the women here who consider their husbands to be totally straight would be shocked at what's really going through their minds during a meet. "

dp as in same entry?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons "
I'm not bisexual and I started the thread.

As a dirty liberal lefty who believes in equality, I just find the prejudice distasteful.

Enough to say that I typically wouldn't want to meet a woman who excludes bi men, not because I'm bi, but because I dislike that kind of prejudice.

That's just my personal choice though

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

So u have no preference in colour height weight etc..... give over

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons "

Maybe because straight guys have nothing to say on the subject as they have no interest in it?

As for having a lot to say about it - as my post further upthread clearly showed it doesn't bother me in the slightest that people have a preference that exclude me because of my sexuality - there are just as many people who don't and I prefer to focus my attention on them

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"So u have no preference in colour height weight etc..... give over"
I have tastes and desires when it concerns what happens between me and whoever -- but what they do with other people when I'm not around, well that's none of my business as it doesn't affect me.

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By *appy squirrelWoman  over a year ago

Norwich

call me naive but do a lot of profile say no bi man? female profiles?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons I'm not bisexual and I started the thread.

As a dirty liberal lefty who believes in equality, I just find the prejudice distasteful.

Enough to say that I typically wouldn't want to meet a woman who excludes bi men, not because I'm bi, but because I dislike that kind of prejudice.

That's just my personal choice though "

It's not prejudice its preference. How can you not see that?!

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons

Maybe because straight guys have nothing to say on the subject as they have no interest in it?

As for having a lot to say about it - as my post further upthread clearly showed it doesn't bother me in the slightest that people have a preference that exclude me because of my sexuality - there are just as many people who don't and I prefer to focus my attention on them "

I know u do. I see so many bi men on threads like this getting their knickers in a twist...x

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"So u have no preference in colour height weight etc..... give overI have tastes and desires when it concerns what happens between me and whoever -- but what they do with other people when I'm not around, well that's none of my business as it doesn't affect me.

"

well just pretend u r straight like a lot of bi men do... now... tea anyone x

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons I'm not bisexual and I started the thread.

As a dirty liberal lefty who believes in equality, I just find the prejudice distasteful.

Enough to say that I typically wouldn't want to meet a woman who excludes bi men, not because I'm bi, but because I dislike that kind of prejudice.

That's just my personal choice though "

It's not prejudice at all - it's personal choice plain and simple. As a Bi guy on here I don't feel people are prejudiced against me because they won't meet me owing to my sexuality - any more than I'd think they were prejudiced against me if they choose not to meet me for any number of other reasons such as my age, the colour of my hair or not liking the look of me from my pictures.

There's no need for a crusade for equality over people's preferences - if you want a crusade around bi males then start one over why bi male play is frowned on in most clubs outside of bi nights and yet bi female play is almost expected on any given night - that is something worth striving for, criticising people's preferences in who they choose to play with is not

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's not prejudice its preference. How can you not see that?!"
Because someone's behaviour outside of that connection makes no logical difference to what they get up to in a few of hours of whatever.

Unless of course you make generalisations, and then it's a prejudice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm wondering if I should say on my profile that my insignificant other is bi.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are a few subjects that always wind up people on the forums....

Bi men

No black or Asian in profiles

Are single people really swingers

Should black men be offended by the term BBC

And my personal favorite is bareback sex....

The answer is always the same for each

Personal preference

But people will argue over this until the end of time

Carry on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Fred's straight and we have had meets with bi men and it's been fine, no awkwardness no boundaries crossed.

However, when we've been messaging with bi men either single or couples we've had the likes of, "what would Fred do if I grabbed his cock" "would he react badly if I sucked his cock" "I know he is straight but I'd love to suck him off" So I can see why some people are put off, with the latter example I gave, if we were meeting with a straight female I wouldn't dream of making reference to what I'd like to do to her as it would undoubtedly make her feel uncomfortable, and spoil the atmosphere.

Ginger

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By *ilthyStrumpetCouple  over a year ago

Trowbridge

The majority of the time it's because many people assume that if a guy's bi, it means he'll want to fuck every guy he comes into contact with...

Often when my OH and I have discussed meets with straight men/ male half of couples, they've felt the need to you know, just remind us that they're straight.

Yeah dude, we know...no one's expecting or wanting to force you to have bum sex ffs.

Total double standard cos no one gives a fuck if you're a bit woman!

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple  over a year ago

Leeds


"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

"

Do you really have the right to question someone's choice?

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester


"The majority of the time it's because many people assume that if a guy's bi, it means he'll want to fuck every guy he comes into contact with...

Often when my OH and I have discussed meets with straight men/ male half of couples, they've felt the need to you know, just remind us that they're straight.

Yeah dude, we know...no one's expecting or wanting to force you to have bum sex ffs.

Total double standard cos no one gives a fuck if you're a bit woman! "

what % is the majority

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice.

I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to.

Let me explain with an example...

2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi.

The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc.

So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off?

Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not "

Prejudice? A word bandied about all to easily these days!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"call me naive but do a lot of profile say no bi man? female profiles?"

sorry, but i cant concentrate with that peach looking at me in the face!!

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By *ilthyStrumpetCouple  over a year ago

Trowbridge


"The majority of the time it's because many people assume that if a guy's bi, it means he'll want to fuck every guy he comes into contact with...

Often when my OH and I have discussed meets with straight men/ male half of couples, they've felt the need to you know, just remind us that they're straight.

Yeah dude, we know...no one's expecting or wanting to force you to have bum sex ffs.

Total double standard cos no one gives a fuck if you're a bit woman! what % is the majority "

I'm my personal experience...I'd say at least 80% of the people who don't want to meet bi guys.

Most people in general don't seem to have an issue as far as my personal experience goes. If whoever we're meeting is straight, bi play just isn't ever considered at all.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan  over a year ago

North Wessex Downs


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with?

You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure?

It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men.

People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others.

HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best."

Fyi - transmission risk of HIV via oral sex is cafegorised as negligible - although amongt msm there is real risk of gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis. The major heterosexual risk for oral sex is herpes.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan  over a year ago

North Wessex Downs

Hilarious thread. One just as well ask why people have ethnic or age preferences - or prefer slim or curvy girls. Sex is odd - it doesn't conform to logic - it's purely taste. Sure there are prevalence rates for STDs that differ by sexuality - and also by race. But individuals vary - some people are careful even if many are not in terms of prophylaxis. Ultimately though it all comes down to taste. And you can't legislate for that any more than someone who rejects partners that vote Conservative but not Labour. Interesting thread though that shows that more needs to be doneto inform people aboht STD risk!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well the biggest thing I've learnt from this thread, is that there are very few people on this website that I want to be associated with.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan  over a year ago

North Wessex Downs


"Well the biggest thing I've learnt from this thread, is that there are very few people on this website that I want to be associated with."

Toys properly thrown out - Extraordinary!

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By *abulously curiousCouple  over a year ago

manchester

The secret bi man has gone lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Could someone help me fill in the blanks? OP Said

The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc.

Find that to be a conflict sentence

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By *ickyRoosterMan  over a year ago

Uppendown


"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling."

Fair play

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By *irthandgirthMan  over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? "

Because no man will turn down a bi female.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The secret bi man has gone lol"

Don't worry he will be back with a squeeky new profile very soon

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females?

Because no man will turn down a bi female. "

Indeed! or 2 at the same time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Haha mine says bi guys only "
most interesting profile I’ve seen for a while !!!

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By *reokinkMan  over a year ago

London


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. "

So often the case and exactly why the health and safely reason for not meeting bi guys would be comical if it wasn't so serious. Trust should always be established, not assumed, regardless of what someones profile says.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women."

The ones I meet really like it. I don’t care about those who don’t want to meet me. I’m doing fine on here being bisexual.

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By *reokinkMan  over a year ago

London


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them.

Probably around 80% of men that message me on here have their profiles set to straight and they pretty much always say that it's because women and couples won't meet them if their profile says bi. So all these people against bi people have probably played with one without even knowing, were not disease riddled gremlins.

However as one of the posts says above they won't meet bi men because they have a higher chance of HIV and men they meet refuse to wear condoms, then it's your fault for not making them, I wouldn't bareback with anyone, man or woman so my chances of being squeeky clean are much higher than you who are meeting 'straight' men bareback"

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hilarious thread. One just as well ask why people have ethnic or age preferences - or prefer slim or curvy girls. Sex is odd - it doesn't conform to logic - it's purely taste. Sure there are prevalence rates for STDs that differ by sexuality - and also by race. But individuals vary - some people are careful even if many are not in terms of prophylaxis. Ultimately though it all comes down to taste. And you can't legislate for that any more than someone who rejects partners that vote Conservative but not Labour. Interesting thread though that shows that more needs to be doneto inform people aboht STD risk!"

I had this same issue when I posted a thread asking why no blacks or Asian when people posted on their profile. I was actually curious to know REASONS behind the decision. Most came back with it’s just preference but I was genuinely curious as to the why’s. Some got it and put there reasons. Although the op has gone I understand what he means because if he is bi if the couple didn’t know he was would it make a difference to them meeting? That’s the only prognosis I can think of. He was trying to suggest that some were homophobic but for me if you met a couple and played ( from a guys point of view) and the other guy played straight and it never came up about him being bi, would you play again if you found out he was

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice.

I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to.

Let me explain with an example...

2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi.

The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc.

So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off?

Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not "

Fussy cunts, also OP didn't last long before UNLOS did he?

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By *reokinkMan  over a year ago

London


"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling."

Some good points. If someone wouldn't want to meet me purely as a result of thinly veiled illogical prejudices I wouldn't want to meet them and that is one of the reasons why I am open about my bi side on here.

However if the reasons were because they didn't want to feel like I was settling and holding back I would totally respect and understand their decision. Even though in my case it would be an incorrect assumption as I love meeting couples be they straight of bi.

With single guys its different though. As a result we now never knowingly meet straight guys for MMF fun.

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By *asques and boxersCouple  over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

Taste is individual and this hobby is about sharing some pretty personal parts of your self / selves. A massive part of which is the sexual tension and mental expectation. Neither of us actual find it sexually appealing having seen two males getting their thing off. But in the right circumstances two women are exciting to us both.

Why is that something OP finds so difficult to understand or appears to require others to justifie. Simply move on surely the goal is to maximise ones pleasures to the best of your abilities within your acceptabilites.

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By *reokinkMan  over a year ago

London


"Fred's straight and we have had meets with bi men and it's been fine, no awkwardness no boundaries crossed.

However, when we've been messaging with bi men either single or couples we've had the likes of, "what would Fred do if I grabbed his cock" "would he react badly if I sucked his cock" "I know he is straight but I'd love to suck him off" So I can see why some people are put off, with the latter example I gave, if we were meeting with a straight female I wouldn't dream of making reference to what I'd like to do to her as it would undoubtedly make her feel uncomfortable, and spoil the atmosphere.

Ginger "

Can be annoying when people try to alter ones preferences, regardless of what they might be, I think its very disrespectful.

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By *acavityMan  over a year ago

Redditch

Homophobia is a man's fear that another man will treat him, like he treats women.

So it's either that the couple / lady don't understand boundaries or that they have had a bad experience.

But the risk assessment argument amuses me, when I see "no bi, bareback only" on profiles. Especially when they have veris from men who have tried to meet up with me.

I'm bi, but won't crawl over a lady to get to a gent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's human nature to think that we are right and justified in everything we do as individuals.

Questioning other people's preferences and behaviour is natural.

But on a site like this it's almost impossible to know if anyone is being honest about their sexuality.

Do you do a sexual history check on everyone you meet?

How do you know that the "single straight man" you met last night didn't take part in a bi creampie gangbang the night before and then went home to his unsuspecting wife?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This old chestnut again?

I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually.

Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me.

So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point.

No homophobia just basic common sense.

Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's human nature to think that we are right and justified in everything we do as individuals.

Questioning other people's preferences and behaviour is natural.

But on a site like this it's almost impossible to know if anyone is being honest about their sexuality.

Do you do a sexual history check on everyone you meet?

How do you know that the "single straight man" you met last night didn't take part in a bi creampie gangbang the night before and then went home to his unsuspecting wife?

"

Exactly this! Find it very odd that a man who simply identifies as bisexual (who may have never actually had any sexual contact with another man!!) is assumed to be a less safe option simply due to statistics...

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By *ablo minibar123Woman  over a year ago

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"There are plenty of couples who are specifically looking for bi guys so it's not really an issue.

"

that is very true, plenty of couples who seek bi guys out. It's all sex swings and roundabouts.

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By *ilthyStrumpetCouple  over a year ago

Trowbridge


"This old chestnut again?

I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually.

Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me.

So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point.

No homophobia just basic common sense.

Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?"

Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

its choice not prejudice - i dont get turned on by the thought of a bi guy at all and past conversations we have had with couples, where the fella is bi has made it one of the things to avoid -

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's human nature to think that we are right and justified in everything we do as individuals.

Questioning other people's preferences and behaviour is natural.

But on a site like this it's almost impossible to know if anyone is being honest about their sexuality.

Do you do a sexual history check on everyone you meet?

How do you know that the "single straight man" you met last night didn't take part in a bi creampie gangbang the night before and then went home to his unsuspecting wife?

"

you don't

The same as when you meet a 'single" guy and then he also goes back to his unsuspecting wife.

It's all about being truthful to yourself.if your bi be proud to be and don't bother with who when or why.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well in the interests of using this thread as an indication - of the women and couples that have openly declared they will or won't meet bi men the count is currently at 6-3 in favour of those that will meet us - so around 66% which I would declare a majority

And yes before anyone says it, I really am that sad!! "

Only about 5 -7% of fabbers use the forums apparently ..according to fab stats. Which means nothing on the forum can be taken as any form of concensus unless one is only talking about forum users of course as you stated. This can change day to day though and depending on the interest in defending a particular topic to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This old chestnut again?

I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually.

Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me.

So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point.

No homophobia just basic common sense.

Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?

Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally."

I look at their veris and see before I meet them so if say a bit yes but not while playing but that's why ibdint meet bi guys because I know I would in that situation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This old chestnut again?

I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually.

Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me.

So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point.

No homophobia just basic common sense.

Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?

Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally."

Yes I do, but before I decide whether I'll start chatting to them or if I'm interested but their veris are hidden I'll slip it in the conversation if I may read their veris. Usually their response dictates if the conversation goes any futher.

It's very important to me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This old chestnut again?

I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually.

Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me.

So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point.

No homophobia just basic common sense.

Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?

Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally.I look at their veris and see before I meet them so if say a bit yes but not while playing but that's why ibdint meet bi guys because I know I would in that situation "

The point is, in ‘real life’ you don’t have verifications to look back on, if you met someone in a bar or on a dating website, would you ask them to disclose every single person they’ve ever slept with?

That ‘straight’ man could have experimented with multiple men sexually before deciding that they identify as straight, while that ‘bisexual’ man may have never been with another man. How someone chooses to identify isn’t always based exclusively on their sexual history...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On fab

You will never be 100% in knowing the person your meetings sexual history..never

All I can say is I won't meet any guy that is actively looking to meet other men..

I can't get the thumb screws out everytime I meet someone so safe sex is a must and those guys that are honest about their sexuality will understand everyone has preferences.

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By *azmar62Couple  over a year ago

Hinckley

You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's the misconception that womens sexuality is a spectrum and that men are either gay or straight, there's no grey area.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Funny thing is people who put “no bi guys” will likely attract bi guys still, but the ones who don’t openly tell people (and are therefore more likely to engage in risky behaviour). So it makes no difference - in fact it probably puts you more at risk.

Instead you should just ask someone if they’re bi as you’re in conversation. Then turn them down. If that’s what you want to do.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point.

No homophobia just basic common sense.

Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?"

I literally never think of who else a partner might have had sex with when I'm having sex with them. It's nearly always irrelevant.

That's what the above is difficult to understand for me.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Well in the interests of using this thread as an indication - of the women and couples that have openly declared they will or won't meet bi men the count is currently at 6-3 in favour of those that will meet us - so around 66% which I would declare a majority

And yes before anyone says it, I really am that sad!!

Only about 5 -7% of fabbers use the forums apparently ..according to fab stats. Which means nothing on the forum can be taken as any form of concensus unless one is only talking about forum users of course as you stated. This can change day to day though and depending on the interest in defending a particular topic to. "

Oh I know it was a ridiculous stat that didn't actually mean a great deal, hence the liberal use of the emoji - just a straw poll based on this thread as it stood at the time to prove a point

As far as I'm concerned and based on experience of being on the site for two years, there are just as many people who actively seek bi men as there are that won't meet us and I for one am perfectly happy with that balance

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We’re all nuts? Is that because not everybody holds the same opinion as you?

“Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do” – Why is that? Why is it that Bi couples feel the need to be tested regularly? Think about what you have just said, and maybe the penny will drop, with regards to why some people do not want to meet bi-men.

And as for your remark about cheaters creeping home to their pointless, sexless marriages – not all sexless marriages are pointless. You don’t know the circumstances of why a man (or woman) cheats. It’s not nice, but it happens. You seem to be judging straight couples, in the way that you think (incorrectly) straight couples are judging bi couples.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I hope the op got the answer he Was looking for.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys. "

So much conjecture in this it's laughable.

You can only speak for yourself and anyone you trust and know particularly well.

I'm single and I get tested every 3 months and I get a txt message stating if I'm clear or hAve to come in again. I keep these messages in the same string so anyone can see if they request. I'd say there are a lot of single men who value their health as I do .

We're not all cheats either as you're suggesting.

Please explain what makes a bi couple more aware of Stds than othere on here as that does confuse me and I'm sure I'm not the only one?

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By *ames GentlyMan  over a year ago

cannock

If people are not wearing condoms then your meeting the wrong guys

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By *ames GentlyMan  over a year ago

cannock

Brighton Steve it’s not outrageous at all.

If you write that your bi curious, then you are black balled by people.

So what is bi curious?

For me it’s, if your in a mixed group men and woman then some oral play is fun, sharing a cock with a woman for example.

Do people not meet woman because in group play they give oral to more than one man?

The word Bi is used as a label By some to block you, when in fact I’ve seen these people in a club on the round table having a good time. I didn’t see them checking passports then to see if your bi curious

In short Fab is a wonderful vehicle to find people who are like minded. It can also be its own worst enemy, as we apply labels to things.

But life is not all black and white or red and blue the lines blur and having a sexually category on your profile is not always helpful.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys.

So much conjecture in this it's laughable.

You can only speak for yourself and anyone you trust and know particularly well.

I'm single and I get tested every 3 months and I get a txt message stating if I'm clear or hAve to come in again. I keep these messages in the same string so anyone can see if they request. I'd say there are a lot of single men who value their health as I do .

We're not all cheats either as you're suggesting.

Please explain what makes a bi couple more aware of Stds than othere on here as that does confuse me and I'm sure I'm not the only one? "

That’s all good and well ( and good for you for taking your sexual health seriously) but the first person your slept with after that test essentially voids it

Condoms or no conds youre only as clean as the last person played with, condoms only merely reduce the risk they aren’t full proof

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By *ames GentlyMan  over a year ago

cannock

The forum goes on to mention pointless marriages.

How dare someone judge why you do things.

Since 1996 I have not been able to have sexual relations with my partner because of illness. It doesn’t mean I have pointless marriage. In fact I would say that being there for them is of a far greater value than leaving, even if you are finding the release of sexual tension in other forms.

People do this for lots of reasons and how is it for any of us to judge them or us?

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"The forum goes on to mention pointless marriages.

How dare someone judge why you do things.

Since 1996 I have not been able to have sexual relations with my partner because of illness. It doesn’t mean I have pointless marriage. In fact I would say that being there for them is of a far greater value than leaving, even if you are finding the release of sexual tension in other forms.

People do this for lots of reasons and how is it for any of us to judge them or us?"

And the obvious reply to that one from people that abhor cheating is have a wank, you can’t please everyone so don’t bother trying

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom.

It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex.

How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all.

Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with?

You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure?

It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men.

People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others.

HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best.

"

Oral sex is a much less risk.

It's what people are told, so they use that information to make a decision. I don't berate anyone for being cautious. Some people won't meet women who have regular, protected gang bangs; because the exposure to STIs will be higher. And that's their decision. I don't tell anyone how to decide which risks to take.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If people are not wearing condoms then your meeting the wrong guys "

You won't know if they do or don't. That's the big issue. Who should you trust to always use protection and get regular testing?

Some people don't trust any bi men.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom. "

Only time I've not worn a condom for sex is when in a relationship

My health is important too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just a turn off for the majority of women.

No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?

63% is a majority I think.

Plucking numbers out of mid air is not an accepted statistical measurement - at least it wasn't the last time I checked "

Tell Donald Trump that

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By *azmar62Couple  over a year ago

Hinckley

Girls and boys? I’m sorry if what I said offended anyone, it was purely a view? Finger sometimes types before brain is fully engaged? Particularly the guy who can’t have relations, please accept my sincere apologies.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys.

So much conjecture in this it's laughable.

You can only speak for yourself and anyone you trust and know particularly well.

I'm single and I get tested every 3 months and I get a txt message stating if I'm clear or hAve to come in again. I keep these messages in the same string so anyone can see if they request. I'd say there are a lot of single men who value their health as I do .

We're not all cheats either as you're suggesting.

Please explain what makes a bi couple more aware of Stds than othere on here as that does confuse me and I'm sure I'm not the only one?

That’s all good and well ( and good for you for taking your sexual health seriously) but the first person your slept with after that test essentially voids it

Condoms or no conds youre only as clean as the last person played with, condoms only merely reduce the risk they aren’t full proof "

Your original comments were null and void.... our conjecture based upon opinion rather than evidence. I was pointing that out and not by conjecture or random thoughts but by evidence as I tried to display.

You seemed misinformed again. You're not only as clean as the last person you played. It takes a while for some STDs to become infectious in a new body and up to 3 months for some to show on tests. So you're really only as clean as the people you've played with in the past 3 months. You could also be cleaner than any of them if you don't catch what some may have too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Seems the OP may have had enough.

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By *ickyRoosterMan  over a year ago

Uppendown

Being bisexual is the least of my worries. I dream of getting through to the 'are you bi?' round of the sift. Once I get stretched out to 6 foot (or buy some Cuban heels - which is more likely), lose three stone (Okay - 4 stone!!), develop some abs, add 3 inches to my endowment so I can take a pic of it next to at least a can of Lynx (Sky remote size wouldn't be in keeping with my frame), get a hair transplant and knock 10 yrs off my age (ALRIGHT.....15yrs. God you are soooo picky) and pack up smoking it would be an absolute delight to know that I'd only been knocked back because I was bi

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple  over a year ago

Leeds

So, for clarification, is personal choice now a prejudice?

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice.

I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to.

Let me explain with an example...

2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi.

The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc.

So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off?

Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not "

It's just a preference not prejudice

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom. I think anyone (non-monogamous) who refuses to wear a condom is a total fucking idiot, regardless of their sexual preference."

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By *ilthyStrumpetCouple  over a year ago

Trowbridge


"So, for clarification, is personal choice now a prejudice?"

No. But the reason behind it may be.

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By *idsBiGuyMan  over a year ago

Tamworth

To suggest that there is no prejudice against bi guys is demonstrably false. We get flak from both straight folk and the gay community usually in the form of “it’s a phase”, “pick a side”, “you can’t be trusted”, “you’ll change your mind” or “you’re on your way to coming out as gay”.

Is that annoying? Yes. Is that silly and ignorant? Yes. Is that intolerant? To a degree.

It is also true that according to the statistics the MSM group is of a higher risk than the average person of contracting STDs. That said, simply knowing that as one of said group and doing something about it inherently reduces that risk.

We are all swingers so that in itself can put us at higher risk also, which is why basic things like condoms, lube and regular testing are absolutely VITAL.

Other prophylactic methods such as vaccination against Hep A and B and certain strains of HPV as well as PEP (in the case of condom breakage) and PrEP are available. PEP being available at every A&E department in the country.

Now all that having been said, if someone doesn’t want to meet bi folk of any gender then that’s their choice. If you’re bi and butthurt about that (if you’ll pardon the horrendous turn of phrase), it’s simple enough to think “well their loss, time to move on” and do just that. There are plenty of folk that are either into it or simply don’t care either way.

No one likes a whingy wanker!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

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By *idsBiGuyMan  over a year ago

Tamworth


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. "

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake"

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk.

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By *idsBiGuyMan  over a year ago

Tamworth


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. "

Oh of course. That’s fair though.

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By *essica jamiesonWoman  over a year ago

edinburgh


"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? I'm a guy, I know how men think.

(#yesallmen)

"

lol lol " shakes head" u have that power to know what every man thinks! Lol i really am lol...

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. "

To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book.

Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be.

I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk.

To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book.

Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be.

I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made."

I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why is it prejudice it's choice surely what if there coloured am I racist as well each to there own

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. outrageous "
that's why I try to fully check who I'm meeting and who they have met so many lie on here

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk.

To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book.

Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be.

I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made.

I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries. "

No, you said "Some bi guys are respectful" which by inference limits the number and suggests you think only some are, but the majority aren't...

....had you of said "some bi guys are disrespectful" THEN we'd be in agreement!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk.

To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book.

Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be.

I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made.

I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries.

No, you said "Some bi guys are respectful" which by inference limits the number and suggests you think only some are, but the majority aren't...

....had you of said "some bi guys are disrespectful" THEN we'd be in agreement!! "

Yeah they're all dodgy as fuck and just want cock and will lie to get a nosh. Very few don't lie.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene.

What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling."

Agree with this just as we don’t seek out straight single females or straight girls in couples, as that’s not dynamic we are looking for xx

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'.

That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake

Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk.

To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book.

Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be.

I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made.

I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries.

No, you said "Some bi guys are respectful" which by inference limits the number and suggests you think only some are, but the majority aren't...

....had you of said "some bi guys are disrespectful" THEN we'd be in agreement!!

Yeah they're all dodgy as fuck and just want cock and will lie to get a nosh. Very few don't lie. "

Based on nothing more than some ridiculous and ill conceived perception rather than facts you can back it up with, and is just typical of the attitude of a minority on here towards bisexual men that sadly perpetuates the myth.

In my experience of bisexual guys, which I am willing to venture is probably wider than your own, most wouldn't dream of overstepping boundaries and are actually very careful to make it clear they wouldn't precisely because of the misconceptions of others.

As mentioned previously there are some of ALL genders and sexualities who lie and overstep boundaries in one way or another, so quite why there's a need to single out and tar an unfair proportion of bisexual men in the way you have done (without any evidence to back up your assertions) is beyond me

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