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"Choice, I imagine. " Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. | |||
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"Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom. " I think anyone (non-monogamous) who refuses to wear a condom is a total fucking idiot, regardless of their sexual preference. | |||
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"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. " What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling. | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. " outrageous | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? " I'm a guy, I know how men think. (#yesallmen) | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? " Trust me there aren't any! | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. " Probably around 80% of men that message me on here have their profiles set to straight and they pretty much always say that it's because women and couples won't meet them if their profile says bi. So all these people against bi people have probably played with one without even knowing, were not disease riddled gremlins. However as one of the posts says above they won't meet bi men because they have a higher chance of HIV and men they meet refuse to wear condoms, then it's your fault for not making them, I wouldn't bareback with anyone, man or woman so my chances of being squeeky clean are much higher than you who are meeting 'straight' men bareback | |||
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"Not homophobia then?" nah, bi phobia maybe? | |||
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"So I asked people to explain their choices, and an amount of people have just said "it's a choice" without actually explaining what influences that choice. Others have dismissed bi men as too much of a disease risk -- thus making a prejudiced assumption that none of them practice safe sex, or that they always do anal. So, to me this seems seems like a case of "I'm not homophobic but...." without wanting to admit that they're just homophobic. Some very prehistoric attitudes on here. " That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? The best way is to use everything you know and take the risks you want. | |||
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"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? " Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded. | |||
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"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded." its not prejudiced. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? " I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. | |||
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"its not prejudiced. " Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice. | |||
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"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded." plus not everyone claims to to be open minded | |||
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"its not prejudiced. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice." maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. | |||
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"plus not everyone claims to to be open minded" Well yeah, bad choice of words on my part, but I would have imagined more sexual open mindedness on a swingers website. | |||
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"If you’re not bi, it’s not anything that effects you, so why make a sodding issue out of it? Because we're supposed to be living in enlightened times -- it's an eye opener to encounter so much prejudice from people who claim to be open minded." No we’re not, nor will we ever be as these are unfortunately traits of human nature, so arseholes with them will always exist Don’t go to war with them, leave them to hang them selves | |||
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"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. " A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons. Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post. | |||
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"its not prejudiced. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice." So what it it’s just a personal choice they make as part of their precautions to reduce the risk STI and as nothing to do with bias against no men and they’ll openly socialise with bi men, are they still prejudice? | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. " This is our experience to, most of our messages are from straight guys saying they are bi but won't put it on their profile incase they don't get meets and also a few of them are well verified, so for people who say they won't meet bi guys, how do you really know! Mrs x | |||
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"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons. Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post." We explained our reasoning. So have many others. Maybe you don't agree, but you have your answers. | |||
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"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling." | |||
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"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons. Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post." The reason I said it’s their choice is because that’s what it is. The reason lies with those who make the decision. I don’t care if they are prejudiced- it’s their decision no matter what the reason is behind it. If they don’t want you, find someone who does. | |||
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"maybe you need to exept peoples choices without judging there reasons. A large people on this thread have said "it's a choice" without explaining their reasons. Nobody has referred to the example I offered in the opening post. The reason I said it’s their choice is because that’s what it is. The reason lies with those who make the decision. I don’t care if they are prejudiced- it’s their decision no matter what the reason is behind it. If they don’t want you, find someone who does. " | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex." How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. " As a bi MF couple only looking for bi people, we can say 99.9% of our messages are from ‘straight’ guys who tell us they won’t put bi on their profiles as it puts some others off | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? Trust me there aren't any!" Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. " this. And make sure you avoid swingers too as they are the same risk. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. " Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with? You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure? | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? Trust me there aren't any! Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. " lucky u lol | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? Trust me there aren't any! Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. lucky u lol" My other half is a straight female. Bi females who won’t take no for an answer are not what we seek. | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? Trust me there aren't any! Our couples profile said no bi females. Too many won’t take no for an answer. lucky u lol My other half is a straight female. Bi females who won’t take no for an answer are not what we seek. " send them our way haha | |||
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"Op Swinging is a bloodsport , there is no need for someone to explain why they don’t like something sexually... But I always wanted , someone to explain to me... Why no one liked black licorice candy as a children? " or y u never see white dog shit nowadays | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. this. And make sure you avoid swingers too as they are the same risk. " Not if they don't do anal | |||
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"its not prejudiced. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of prejudice." Many often assume prejudice with whatever is said with many 'hot' topics because (1) they have focused too much on the negative dialogue (2) they assume too much into what the other has said and sometimes it's more that the reply may have been unclear. (3) they don't have the same experience or knowledge that the other has had. (4) they may hold a preducice themselves a bot the topic or person who responded. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with? You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure? " It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men. People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with? You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure? It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men. People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others. " HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with? You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure? It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men. People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others. HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best." They were stating that's the highest risk activity... You've probably just added more to their comment which they may wanted to add but chose not too in case they come across as predudiced to some on here. That's how I read it it anyway.0 | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. Probably around 80% of men that message me on here have their profiles set to straight and they pretty much always say that it's because women and couples won't meet them if their profile says bi. So all these people against bi people have probably played with one without even knowing, were not disease riddled gremlins. However as one of the posts says above they won't meet bi men because they have a higher chance of HIV and men they meet refuse to wear condoms, then it's your fault for not making them, I wouldn't bareback with anyone, man or woman so my chances of being squeeky clean are much higher than you who are meeting 'straight' men bareback" Very well put x | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women." No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women." Not for all of us My other half is bi bloody love it | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it " I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?" I do | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males?" 63% is a majority I think. | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think." hahaha where u getting them stats from | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think." Plucking numbers out of mid air is not an accepted statistical measurement - at least it wasn't the last time I checked | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think.hahaha where u getting them stats from " Sydney University of course | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think.hahaha where u getting them stats from Sydney University of course " | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think.hahaha where u getting them stats from Sydney University of course " 74% of all stats are made up on the spot. | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think." 60% of the time it works. Every time | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think. Plucking numbers out of mid air is not an accepted statistical measurement - at least it wasn't the last time I checked " They've done studies and shit. | |||
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"I think it's plain that those who dislike the idea of sex with bi men have no rational reason for their dislike; their arguments crumble at the first analysis, but they don't have to do it, and they're entitled to feel their dislike. The notion that a guy who shares DP with another guy and a lady is somehow 'straight' is hilarious though. I wonder how many of the women here who consider their husbands to be totally straight would be shocked at what's really going through their minds during a meet. " dp as in same entry? | |||
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"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons " I'm not bisexual and I started the thread. As a dirty liberal lefty who believes in equality, I just find the prejudice distasteful. Enough to say that I typically wouldn't want to meet a woman who excludes bi men, not because I'm bi, but because I dislike that kind of prejudice. That's just my personal choice though | |||
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"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons " Maybe because straight guys have nothing to say on the subject as they have no interest in it? As for having a lot to say about it - as my post further upthread clearly showed it doesn't bother me in the slightest that people have a preference that exclude me because of my sexuality - there are just as many people who don't and I prefer to focus my attention on them | |||
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"So u have no preference in colour height weight etc..... give over" I have tastes and desires when it concerns what happens between me and whoever -- but what they do with other people when I'm not around, well that's none of my business as it doesn't affect me. | |||
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"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons I'm not bisexual and I started the thread. As a dirty liberal lefty who believes in equality, I just find the prejudice distasteful. Enough to say that I typically wouldn't want to meet a woman who excludes bi men, not because I'm bi, but because I dislike that kind of prejudice. That's just my personal choice though " It's not prejudice its preference. How can you not see that?! | |||
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"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons Maybe because straight guys have nothing to say on the subject as they have no interest in it? As for having a lot to say about it - as my post further upthread clearly showed it doesn't bother me in the slightest that people have a preference that exclude me because of my sexuality - there are just as many people who don't and I prefer to focus my attention on them " I know u do. I see so many bi men on threads like this getting their knickers in a twist...x | |||
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"So u have no preference in colour height weight etc..... give overI have tastes and desires when it concerns what happens between me and whoever -- but what they do with other people when I'm not around, well that's none of my business as it doesn't affect me. " well just pretend u r straight like a lot of bi men do... now... tea anyone x | |||
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"I love how it's only bi men who have a lot to say about people not wanting bi males.. get over it.. or do u believe ur that special ppl who display choice are wrong because they don't need to give u specific reasons I'm not bisexual and I started the thread. As a dirty liberal lefty who believes in equality, I just find the prejudice distasteful. Enough to say that I typically wouldn't want to meet a woman who excludes bi men, not because I'm bi, but because I dislike that kind of prejudice. That's just my personal choice though " It's not prejudice at all - it's personal choice plain and simple. As a Bi guy on here I don't feel people are prejudiced against me because they won't meet me owing to my sexuality - any more than I'd think they were prejudiced against me if they choose not to meet me for any number of other reasons such as my age, the colour of my hair or not liking the look of me from my pictures. There's no need for a crusade for equality over people's preferences - if you want a crusade around bi males then start one over why bi male play is frowned on in most clubs outside of bi nights and yet bi female play is almost expected on any given night - that is something worth striving for, criticising people's preferences in who they choose to play with is not | |||
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"It's not prejudice its preference. How can you not see that?!" Because someone's behaviour outside of that connection makes no logical difference to what they get up to in a few of hours of whatever. Unless of course you make generalisations, and then it's a prejudice. | |||
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"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. " Do you really have the right to question someone's choice? | |||
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"The majority of the time it's because many people assume that if a guy's bi, it means he'll want to fuck every guy he comes into contact with... Often when my OH and I have discussed meets with straight men/ male half of couples, they've felt the need to you know, just remind us that they're straight. Yeah dude, we know...no one's expecting or wanting to force you to have bum sex ffs. Total double standard cos no one gives a fuck if you're a bit woman! " what % is the majority | |||
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"For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice. I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to. Let me explain with an example... 2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi. The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc. So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off? Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not " Prejudice? A word bandied about all to easily these days! | |||
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"call me naive but do a lot of profile say no bi man? female profiles?" sorry, but i cant concentrate with that peach looking at me in the face!! | |||
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"The majority of the time it's because many people assume that if a guy's bi, it means he'll want to fuck every guy he comes into contact with... Often when my OH and I have discussed meets with straight men/ male half of couples, they've felt the need to you know, just remind us that they're straight. Yeah dude, we know...no one's expecting or wanting to force you to have bum sex ffs. Total double standard cos no one gives a fuck if you're a bit woman! what % is the majority " I'm my personal experience...I'd say at least 80% of the people who don't want to meet bi guys. Most people in general don't seem to have an issue as far as my personal experience goes. If whoever we're meeting is straight, bi play just isn't ever considered at all. | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with? You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure? It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men. People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others. HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best." Fyi - transmission risk of HIV via oral sex is cafegorised as negligible - although amongt msm there is real risk of gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis. The major heterosexual risk for oral sex is herpes. | |||
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"Well the biggest thing I've learnt from this thread, is that there are very few people on this website that I want to be associated with." Toys properly thrown out - Extraordinary! | |||
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"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling." Fair play | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? " Because no man will turn down a bi female. | |||
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"The secret bi man has gone lol" Don't worry he will be back with a squeeky new profile very soon | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? Because no man will turn down a bi female. " Indeed! or 2 at the same time | |||
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"Haha mine says bi guys only " most interesting profile I’ve seen for a while !!! | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. " So often the case and exactly why the health and safely reason for not meeting bi guys would be comical if it wasn't so serious. Trust should always be established, not assumed, regardless of what someones profile says. | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women." The ones I meet really like it. I don’t care about those who don’t want to meet me. I’m doing fine on here being bisexual. | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. Probably around 80% of men that message me on here have their profiles set to straight and they pretty much always say that it's because women and couples won't meet them if their profile says bi. So all these people against bi people have probably played with one without even knowing, were not disease riddled gremlins. However as one of the posts says above they won't meet bi men because they have a higher chance of HIV and men they meet refuse to wear condoms, then it's your fault for not making them, I wouldn't bareback with anyone, man or woman so my chances of being squeeky clean are much higher than you who are meeting 'straight' men bareback" Exactly | |||
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"Hilarious thread. One just as well ask why people have ethnic or age preferences - or prefer slim or curvy girls. Sex is odd - it doesn't conform to logic - it's purely taste. Sure there are prevalence rates for STDs that differ by sexuality - and also by race. But individuals vary - some people are careful even if many are not in terms of prophylaxis. Ultimately though it all comes down to taste. And you can't legislate for that any more than someone who rejects partners that vote Conservative but not Labour. Interesting thread though that shows that more needs to be doneto inform people aboht STD risk!" I had this same issue when I posted a thread asking why no blacks or Asian when people posted on their profile. I was actually curious to know REASONS behind the decision. Most came back with it’s just preference but I was genuinely curious as to the why’s. Some got it and put there reasons. Although the op has gone I understand what he means because if he is bi if the couple didn’t know he was would it make a difference to them meeting? That’s the only prognosis I can think of. He was trying to suggest that some were homophobic but for me if you met a couple and played ( from a guys point of view) and the other guy played straight and it never came up about him being bi, would you play again if you found out he was | |||
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"For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice. I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to. Let me explain with an example... 2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi. The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc. So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off? Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not " Fussy cunts, also OP didn't last long before UNLOS did he? | |||
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"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling." Some good points. If someone wouldn't want to meet me purely as a result of thinly veiled illogical prejudices I wouldn't want to meet them and that is one of the reasons why I am open about my bi side on here. However if the reasons were because they didn't want to feel like I was settling and holding back I would totally respect and understand their decision. Even though in my case it would be an incorrect assumption as I love meeting couples be they straight of bi. With single guys its different though. As a result we now never knowingly meet straight guys for MMF fun. | |||
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"Fred's straight and we have had meets with bi men and it's been fine, no awkwardness no boundaries crossed. However, when we've been messaging with bi men either single or couples we've had the likes of, "what would Fred do if I grabbed his cock" "would he react badly if I sucked his cock" "I know he is straight but I'd love to suck him off" So I can see why some people are put off, with the latter example I gave, if we were meeting with a straight female I wouldn't dream of making reference to what I'd like to do to her as it would undoubtedly make her feel uncomfortable, and spoil the atmosphere. Ginger " Can be annoying when people try to alter ones preferences, regardless of what they might be, I think its very disrespectful. | |||
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"It's human nature to think that we are right and justified in everything we do as individuals. Questioning other people's preferences and behaviour is natural. But on a site like this it's almost impossible to know if anyone is being honest about their sexuality. Do you do a sexual history check on everyone you meet? How do you know that the "single straight man" you met last night didn't take part in a bi creampie gangbang the night before and then went home to his unsuspecting wife? " Exactly this! Find it very odd that a man who simply identifies as bisexual (who may have never actually had any sexual contact with another man!!) is assumed to be a less safe option simply due to statistics... | |||
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"There are plenty of couples who are specifically looking for bi guys so it's not really an issue. " that is very true, plenty of couples who seek bi guys out. It's all sex swings and roundabouts. | |||
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"This old chestnut again? I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually. Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me. So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point. No homophobia just basic common sense. Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?" Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally. | |||
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"It's human nature to think that we are right and justified in everything we do as individuals. Questioning other people's preferences and behaviour is natural. But on a site like this it's almost impossible to know if anyone is being honest about their sexuality. Do you do a sexual history check on everyone you meet? How do you know that the "single straight man" you met last night didn't take part in a bi creampie gangbang the night before and then went home to his unsuspecting wife? " you don't The same as when you meet a 'single" guy and then he also goes back to his unsuspecting wife. It's all about being truthful to yourself.if your bi be proud to be and don't bother with who when or why. | |||
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"Well in the interests of using this thread as an indication - of the women and couples that have openly declared they will or won't meet bi men the count is currently at 6-3 in favour of those that will meet us - so around 66% which I would declare a majority And yes before anyone says it, I really am that sad!! " Only about 5 -7% of fabbers use the forums apparently ..according to fab stats. Which means nothing on the forum can be taken as any form of concensus unless one is only talking about forum users of course as you stated. This can change day to day though and depending on the interest in defending a particular topic to. | |||
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"This old chestnut again? I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually. Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me. So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point. No homophobia just basic common sense. Why is it so difficult for folk to understand? Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally." I look at their veris and see before I meet them so if say a bit yes but not while playing but that's why ibdint meet bi guys because I know I would in that situation | |||
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"This old chestnut again? I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually. Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me. So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point. No homophobia just basic common sense. Why is it so difficult for folk to understand? Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally." Yes I do, but before I decide whether I'll start chatting to them or if I'm interested but their veris are hidden I'll slip it in the conversation if I may read their veris. Usually their response dictates if the conversation goes any futher. It's very important to me. | |||
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"This old chestnut again? I state no bi guys because the thought of 2 guys going at it does nothing for me sexually. Do I mind it hell no. but sexually I'd does nothing for me. So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point. No homophobia just basic common sense. Why is it so difficult for folk to understand? Do you always think of a person's past sexual partners whilst playing? My mind couldn't be further from thoughts of other people personally.I look at their veris and see before I meet them so if say a bit yes but not while playing but that's why ibdint meet bi guys because I know I would in that situation " The point is, in ‘real life’ you don’t have verifications to look back on, if you met someone in a bar or on a dating website, would you ask them to disclose every single person they’ve ever slept with? That ‘straight’ man could have experimented with multiple men sexually before deciding that they identify as straight, while that ‘bisexual’ man may have never been with another man. How someone chooses to identify isn’t always based exclusively on their sexual history... | |||
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" So for me to play with a bi guy id be thinking of him with another guy so no point. No homophobia just basic common sense. Why is it so difficult for folk to understand?" I literally never think of who else a partner might have had sex with when I'm having sex with them. It's nearly always irrelevant. That's what the above is difficult to understand for me. | |||
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"Well in the interests of using this thread as an indication - of the women and couples that have openly declared they will or won't meet bi men the count is currently at 6-3 in favour of those that will meet us - so around 66% which I would declare a majority And yes before anyone says it, I really am that sad!! Only about 5 -7% of fabbers use the forums apparently ..according to fab stats. Which means nothing on the forum can be taken as any form of concensus unless one is only talking about forum users of course as you stated. This can change day to day though and depending on the interest in defending a particular topic to. " Oh I know it was a ridiculous stat that didn't actually mean a great deal, hence the liberal use of the emoji - just a straw poll based on this thread as it stood at the time to prove a point As far as I'm concerned and based on experience of being on the site for two years, there are just as many people who actively seek bi men as there are that won't meet us and I for one am perfectly happy with that balance | |||
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"You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys. " So much conjecture in this it's laughable. You can only speak for yourself and anyone you trust and know particularly well. I'm single and I get tested every 3 months and I get a txt message stating if I'm clear or hAve to come in again. I keep these messages in the same string so anyone can see if they request. I'd say there are a lot of single men who value their health as I do . We're not all cheats either as you're suggesting. Please explain what makes a bi couple more aware of Stds than othere on here as that does confuse me and I'm sure I'm not the only one? | |||
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"You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys. So much conjecture in this it's laughable. You can only speak for yourself and anyone you trust and know particularly well. I'm single and I get tested every 3 months and I get a txt message stating if I'm clear or hAve to come in again. I keep these messages in the same string so anyone can see if they request. I'd say there are a lot of single men who value their health as I do . We're not all cheats either as you're suggesting. Please explain what makes a bi couple more aware of Stds than othere on here as that does confuse me and I'm sure I'm not the only one? " That’s all good and well ( and good for you for taking your sexual health seriously) but the first person your slept with after that test essentially voids it Condoms or no conds youre only as clean as the last person played with, condoms only merely reduce the risk they aren’t full proof | |||
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"The forum goes on to mention pointless marriages. How dare someone judge why you do things. Since 1996 I have not been able to have sexual relations with my partner because of illness. It doesn’t mean I have pointless marriage. In fact I would say that being there for them is of a far greater value than leaving, even if you are finding the release of sexual tension in other forms. People do this for lots of reasons and how is it for any of us to judge them or us?" And the obvious reply to that one from people that abhor cheating is have a wank, you can’t please everyone so don’t bother trying | |||
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"That's not a prejudiced assumption. It's using statistics as a risk reducer. Would you fuck every one you met in the arse without a condom? No? That would mean you're making a prejudiced assumption then, wouldn't it? I wouldn't fuck anyone without a condom. It's prejudice to assume all bisexual men practice unsafe sex. How do they know which ones do and which don't? If they want to avoid any group who have a higher risk of HIV or Hepatitis they will have to avoid them all. Or why not just judge them as an individual as you would any other person you sleep with? You have no way of knowing whether a straight guy has just had unprotected sex with 100 random girls? You only have their word either way...why not just avoid all of them too just to make sure? It's the bi part that is the risk, because they are more likely to be having anal sex with other men. People choose which risks to take. Some take more than others. HIV is not only passed on by anal you know!! The risks are lower with oral but it's still a risk and having vaginal sex with an infected woman is another method of catching it too - so basing your risk assessment around anal sex alone is I'll conceived at best. " Oral sex is a much less risk. It's what people are told, so they use that information to make a decision. I don't berate anyone for being cautious. Some people won't meet women who have regular, protected gang bangs; because the exposure to STIs will be higher. And that's their decision. I don't tell anyone how to decide which risks to take. | |||
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"Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom. " Only time I've not worn a condom for sex is when in a relationship My health is important too. | |||
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"Its just a turn off for the majority of women. No, it's a turn off for "some" women just as it's a turn on for "some" women - the rest, the majority of which you speak, are neither here nor there about it I don't know many women who are turned on by bi males? 63% is a majority I think. Plucking numbers out of mid air is not an accepted statistical measurement - at least it wasn't the last time I checked " Tell Donald Trump that | |||
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"You people are all nuts? Bi couples are far more aware of std’s, and are tested regular if they are sensible about what they do? How many straights can say the same? I bet most of the single straight guys have never been tested? Makes you think about what there dicks we’re in yesterday, last week, last month? Before the cheaters creep home to there sexless pointless marriages with the notches on there marital bed stead? We have amazing fun with great people who we know are safe, he who cast the first stone, should take a clear hard look in the mirror before getting on there high horses? Bisexuality isn’t just about sex, it’s being able to sit down and have a conversation about a million things, if cocks and pussies come into the conversation atleast we won’t back away, we’ll intelligently approach things openly, without the eww factor? We couldn’t care a jot who a person is or what they’re into, this is a swing site not a court of law or even a playground? Sex is emotional and should be respected no matter the Circumstance, how many out there when preparing for a meet, are secretly crapping thereselves, it happens to us all. We respect the views of all involved, I hope you read and understand ours? We’re fun, happy and most of the time horny. Respect guys. So much conjecture in this it's laughable. You can only speak for yourself and anyone you trust and know particularly well. I'm single and I get tested every 3 months and I get a txt message stating if I'm clear or hAve to come in again. I keep these messages in the same string so anyone can see if they request. I'd say there are a lot of single men who value their health as I do . We're not all cheats either as you're suggesting. Please explain what makes a bi couple more aware of Stds than othere on here as that does confuse me and I'm sure I'm not the only one? That’s all good and well ( and good for you for taking your sexual health seriously) but the first person your slept with after that test essentially voids it Condoms or no conds youre only as clean as the last person played with, condoms only merely reduce the risk they aren’t full proof " Your original comments were null and void.... our conjecture based upon opinion rather than evidence. I was pointing that out and not by conjecture or random thoughts but by evidence as I tried to display. You seemed misinformed again. You're not only as clean as the last person you played. It takes a while for some STDs to become infectious in a new body and up to 3 months for some to show on tests. So you're really only as clean as the people you've played with in the past 3 months. You could also be cleaner than any of them if you don't catch what some may have too. | |||
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"For the record I'm not bi, but I often read this on profiles and honestly don't get the prejudice. I'm not sure how the behaviour of someone elsewhere, with other people, can have a direct effect on what anyone else gets up to. Let me explain with an example... 2 men, equally good looking, equally respectful, equally masculine and equally compatible -- except one of them is bi. The bi guy won't overstep boundaries, won't touch your husband's dick etc. So, how does this actually affect the attraction and what is it that puts you off? Do men ever put "no bi girls" on their status? Nope thought not " It's just a preference not prejudice | |||
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"Bi sexual men are in a higher risk group of HIV aids, this is my reason based on the fact I find meets hardly ever are willing to wear a condom. I think anyone (non-monogamous) who refuses to wear a condom is a total fucking idiot, regardless of their sexual preference." | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. " That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake" Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. " Oh of course. That’s fair though. | |||
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"Have u read every single mans profile? How do u know theres not profiles with " no bi females? I'm a guy, I know how men think. (#yesallmen) " lol lol " shakes head" u have that power to know what every man thinks! Lol i really am lol... | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. " To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book. Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be. I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made. | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book. Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be. I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made." I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries. | |||
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"as a couple who only meet bi guys you would then be shocked how many get in touch with us and say they are actually bi. they won`t put it on there profile as they know certain couples won`t meet them. outrageous " that's why I try to fully check who I'm meeting and who they have met so many lie on here | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book. Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be. I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made. I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries. " No, you said "Some bi guys are respectful" which by inference limits the number and suggests you think only some are, but the majority aren't... ....had you of said "some bi guys are disrespectful" THEN we'd be in agreement!! | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book. Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be. I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made. I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries. No, you said "Some bi guys are respectful" which by inference limits the number and suggests you think only some are, but the majority aren't... ....had you of said "some bi guys are disrespectful" THEN we'd be in agreement!! " Yeah they're all dodgy as fuck and just want cock and will lie to get a nosh. Very few don't lie. | |||
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"Choice, I imagine. Well yes, I'm just curious what influences that choice when, what they do with other people, shouldn't make any difference to the scene. What they do with other people does make a difference. If a guy had hundreds of verifications, and his profile stated he preferred bareback, then we would probably steer clear. It's his choice and his preference, but it would influence our decision not to meet him. We state in our profile that we are not interested in bi guys. The reasons are not as obvious as you think. We are pretty sure a guy could stay within the boundaries, but it's not just about the physical, it's the psychological aspect - Does he think he would be having a better time, if he could play with both? If a guy is coming round, then we need to feel that he is 100% into Donna, and not just settling." Agree with this just as we don’t seek out straight single females or straight girls in couples, as that’s not dynamic we are looking for xx | |||
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"Bi guys always say they won't touch the husband's dick. In the heat of the moment some 'forget'. That’s a bit disrespectful and reminds me of the “whoops, wrong hole! Honest mistake!” scenario which, let’s face it, is probably rarely an honest mistake Some bi guys are respectful, I don't mean all aren't. But I can't blame people for not wanting to take the risk. To be honest even retracting the original statement to say that "some bi guys are respectful" is helping propagate the myth that the majority of bi men are all predatory and ready to pounce on any cock within reach, and therefore still disrespectful and distasteful in my book. Whilst I don't deny there probably are "some" bisexual men who overstep boundaries, I am sure it is a minority and no different from anyone else, male or female, who pushes boundaries regardless of what those boundaries may be. I totally understand and accept without question that people are entitled to prefer not to meet bi guys - just wish some of the ridiculous and untrue statements suggesting the majority of us aren't able to respect boundaries weren't made. I said some. So did you. So we agree that some bi guys don't respect boundaries. No, you said "Some bi guys are respectful" which by inference limits the number and suggests you think only some are, but the majority aren't... ....had you of said "some bi guys are disrespectful" THEN we'd be in agreement!! Yeah they're all dodgy as fuck and just want cock and will lie to get a nosh. Very few don't lie. " Based on nothing more than some ridiculous and ill conceived perception rather than facts you can back it up with, and is just typical of the attitude of a minority on here towards bisexual men that sadly perpetuates the myth. In my experience of bisexual guys, which I am willing to venture is probably wider than your own, most wouldn't dream of overstepping boundaries and are actually very careful to make it clear they wouldn't precisely because of the misconceptions of others. As mentioned previously there are some of ALL genders and sexualities who lie and overstep boundaries in one way or another, so quite why there's a need to single out and tar an unfair proportion of bisexual men in the way you have done (without any evidence to back up your assertions) is beyond me | |||
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