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There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?. |
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I think that in order to find middle ground human beings need to go to extremes first. So the current extreme reaction to sexual harassment where people see the slightest certain innocent social interactions as sinister and others become afraid to say or do anything that could be remotely misconstrued is the reaction to the culture where women (mostly but men get it too) were routinely harrassed and it was seen as "normal".
Consensual sexual activities aren't connected with sexual harassment in any way. |
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By *isty286Couple
over a year ago
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Think it's right that there is change happening in society, it's overdue, but it's going to make some flirting pretty risky when it is just harmless fun, where do we draw the line, luckily on Fab we can all just say "great tits, do you want to see my cock" and get a no thanks without the law suit to follow.  |
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That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects... |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?. "
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it"
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"That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects..."
I think most women are aware that a friendly approach from a man isn't sinister in anyway. The acid test for anybody I think is to stop and think "would I be happy for my sister/mother/daughter to be treated this way" if the answer is no, leave it. |
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"That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects..."
How about when you see a woman in the supermarket that tickles your fancy, don't approach her sexually? Lol it's not hard.
Plenty of men in the planet manage to approach women without being accused of sexual harassment |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it"
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women."
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?. "
Depends on what your idea of flirting is if you think in any way it could be seen as sexual harrasment, the fact that you're asking is a bit worrying imo |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?. "
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't."
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?. "
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't."
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance... |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance... "
Would you say that to a male colleague? |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance... "
But that's a compliment, Not flirting??? |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead."
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Would you say that to a male colleague?"
I would if he looked good in a new suite...and I'm sure he would take that as a compliment the same as the vast majority or women would |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
But that's a compliment, Not flirting???"
But it could be seen as flirting or harassment. Can you see the dilemma?. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
But that's a compliment, Not flirting???
But it could be seen as flirting or harassment. Can you see the dilemma?. "
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Would you say that to a male colleague?
I would if he looked good in a new suite...and I'm sure he would take that as a compliment the same as the vast majority or women would"
Then there's no problem.
Your seem to be implying that some women are going to accuse you of sexual harassment. Maybe play safe and stop whatever it is that you're doing that you're worried could be 'misinterpreted' |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Would you say that to a male colleague?
I would if he looked good in a new suite...and I'm sure he would take that as a compliment the same as the vast majority or women would
Then there's no problem.
Your seem to be implying that some women are going to accuse you of sexual harassment. Maybe play safe and stop whatever it is that you're doing that you're worried could be 'misinterpreted'"
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women "
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Would you say that to a male colleague?
I would if he looked good in a new suite...and I'm sure he would take that as a compliment the same as the vast majority or women would
Then there's no problem.
Your seem to be implying that some women are going to accuse you of sexual harassment. Maybe play safe and stop whatever it is that you're doing that you're worried could be 'misinterpreted'"
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
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At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?. "
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women."
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
I didn't quote you and say that's what you were implying?"
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance... "
I had male colleagues who would occasionally comment on my clothes, our relationship was such that I was able to smile and thank them because I knew there was no sexual intent. It isn't one comment that's the harrassment, its the context and previous behaviour of the person making the comment. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
I didn't quote you and say that's what you were implying?
That's fine, sorry if I misinterpreted you... Do you see how simple it is to get confused "
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
I had male colleagues who would occasionally comment on my clothes, our relationship was such that I was able to smile and thank them because I knew there was no sexual intent. It isn't one comment that's the harrassment, its the context and previous behaviour of the person making the comment."
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
Then those men with their 'innocent actions' can stop doing them if they don't want to be 'misinterpreted'"
Either I'm not making myself clear or you're misinterpreting my words.
I don't mean that the arse slapping is the innocent action.
Some women will either deliberately or mistakenly misinterpret a man's innocent action. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
Then those men with their 'innocent actions' can stop doing them if they don't want to be 'misinterpreted'
Either I'm not making myself clear or you're misinterpreting my words.
I don't mean that the arse slapping is the innocent action.
Some women will either deliberately or mistakenly misinterpret a man's innocent action."
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
A minority of people will misinterpret flirting as harassment. However the vast majority know the difference.
I think it's confusing times for some because previous behaviours are being challenged, rightly so, but they're left not knowing what's acceptable.
As I said above if you'd be happy for a loved one to be treated the way you're treating someone...go ahead.
No the minority of men would interpret harassment as flirting lol
This is what I meant when I said earlier about women just keeping quiet about things because they usually get blamed.
As the person above as said, if you don't know the difference between flirting and harassment, just stay away from women
I haven't or at least it wasn't my intention to imply that blaming women for the harassment that occurs is ok.
What I'm saying (as a woman who has experienced her fair share of harrassment) is that we should be wary of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some and I stress that this is a tiny minority will interpret innocent actions as harrassment. Some will still fail to see that slapping a female colleagues arse isn't office banter.
Then those men with their 'innocent actions' can stop doing them if they don't want to be 'misinterpreted'
Either I'm not making myself clear or you're misinterpreting my words.
I don't mean that the arse slapping is the innocent action.
Some women will either deliberately or mistakenly misinterpret a man's innocent action.
I believe that if a man's actions can be interpreted as harassment, then they are. Regardless of how innocent he and his female enablers say he is."
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When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life. |
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At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance... "
Then you know not to make any more remarks to her. |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life."
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life."
It's not double standards it's sexual harassment, it's just as bad when a woman does it to a man as the other way around |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life."
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Then you know not to make any more remarks to her."
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life."
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Then you know not to make any more remarks to her.
But it would be a little late after she had gone to the boss to report you for harassment "
This is why so many women keep quiet. Men unable to act appropriately and women being condemned when they speak up. |
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"I believe that if a man's actions can be interpreted as harassment, then they are. Regardless of how innocent he and his female enablers say he is."
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Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Would you say that to a male colleague?
I can't imagine any of my male colleagues looking really nice in any dress!
I did have one say I smelled really good the other morning.....followed it up with 'you stink like shit usually'. |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life."
I would have called the police mate. That’s not on, if you don’t report it nothing will be done about it. I had something similar happen to me in a bar in central London. I reported it and the police got the incident on CCTV. Can anyone guess what the outcome was? |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life.
I would have called the police mate. That’s not on, if you don’t report it nothing will be done about it. I had something similar happen to me in a bar in central London. I reported it and the police got the incident on CCTV. Can anyone guess what the outcome was? "
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It's actually very simple. You shouldn't say anything to people you don't know that could be interpreted sexually. Once you get to know someone, you will get an idea as to whether they will enjoy "risqué banter" or not. If the latter, don't do it.
I really don't get this idea that men are somehow all confused about behaviour at work. I have worked for thirty years, mainly in female dominated environments and have found it quite easy not to be accused of sexual harassment. |
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I think it trivialises the real serious issues when things like a touch on the back/shoulder is lumped together with horrendous things like r ape and all just labelled sexual harassment, although overall it’s great that women feel they can come forward now and hopefully that forces people in general to be more respectful towards each other |
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"It's actually very simple. You shouldn't say anything to people you don't know that could be interpreted sexually. Once you get to know someone, you will get an idea as to whether they will enjoy "risqué banter" or not. If the latter, don't do it.
I really don't get this idea that men are somehow all confused about behaviour at work. I have worked for thirty years, mainly in female dominated environments and have found it quite easy not to be accused of sexual harassment. "
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"I think it trivialises the real serious issues when things like a touch on the back/shoulder is lumped together with horrendous things like r ape and all just labelled sexual harassment, although overall it’s great that women feel they can come forward now and hopefully that forces people in general to be more respectful towards each other "
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Context, setting. Simple.
It's perfectly possible to flirt and chat people up in real life without being a creep. If you're finding you aren't able to, you need to look at yourself + the context and setting you are in, and stop blaming wider society. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?. "
I think your post misses an important element - power, and the abuse of it.
The problem isn't so much sexual harassment, per se - it's the combination of harassment with power that is what's causing consternation generally at the moment.
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"I think youre gorgeous" - flirting.
"Id shag the arse off you" - sexual harassment.
You see its easy really. One way you act like a gentleman, the other way you act like a total knob. |
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""I think youre gorgeous" - flirting.
"Id shag the arse off you" - sexual harassment.
You see its easy really. One way you act like a gentleman, the other way you act like a total knob."
Both are harassment if done at inappropriate times with inappropriate people. Both are fine if done at appropriate times with appropriate people. It really isn't a difficult thing to comprehend, I thought  |
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""I think youre gorgeous" - flirting.
"Id shag the arse off you" - sexual harassment.
You see its easy really. One way you act like a gentleman, the other way you act like a total knob."
"I think you're gorgeous" said to a young woman by creepy man in position of power several times a day for weeks on end despite her being obviously embarrassed - sexual harrassment.
"I think you're gorgeous" said by man on first date, once and with a genuine smile - not harrassment.
This is the difference that some men and women either don't understand or refuse to understand.
It's about context. |
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"Chatting people up in real life is now not allowed. Office romances and now pretty much done. The only way to find a prospective partner these days is a swipey app. Welcome to 2018. "
You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately. |
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""I think youre gorgeous" - flirting.
"Id shag the arse off you" - sexual harassment.
You see its easy really. One way you act like a gentleman, the other way you act like a total knob.
"I think you're gorgeous" said to a young woman by creepy man in position of power several times a day for weeks on end despite her being obviously embarrassed - sexual harrassment.
"I think you're gorgeous" said by man on first date, once and with a genuine smile - not harrassment.
This is the difference that some men and women either don't understand or refuse to understand.
It's about context."
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life.
I would have called the police mate. That’s not on, if you don’t report it nothing will be done about it. I had something similar happen to me in a bar in central London. I reported it and the police got the incident on CCTV. Can anyone guess what the outcome was?
Tell us. "
Slap on the wrist. Don’t do it again, the paperwork was clearly not worth doing ?? |
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"That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects..."
Whilst some people on here are looking to be approached sexually, alot arent. The 'nice tits love' apporach doesnt work for me. I'd think you were a prick who had no social skills. Would you approach a lady like that in everyday life?
As for harrassment off here. Everybody deserves to be able to go about their business without being turned into a sex object. |
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You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately."
I fully agree with what you say... Have you ever had a male colleague say or do something that someone else would see as inappropriate?. |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it"
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""I think youre gorgeous" - flirting.
"Id shag the arse off you" - sexual harassment.
You see its easy really. One way you act like a gentleman, the other way you act like a total knob.
"I think you're gorgeous" said to a young woman by creepy man in position of power several times a day for weeks on end despite her being obviously embarrassed - sexual harrassment.
"I think you're gorgeous" said by man on first date, once and with a genuine smile - not harrassment.
This is the difference that some men and women either don't understand or refuse to understand.
It's about context.
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Its difficult to get across what you mean just by typing a post but that's exactly what I was trying to say. Just act like a gentleman, its easy |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?. "
Sexual harassment and consensual domination are not in the same boat.
A lot of women have had some form of sexual harassment and not all the time has it been reported.
Sometimes it can be an inappropriate remark to r@pe.
Having being sexually assaulted, in my own home by a person on this site, at the time I wasn't even sure what to do. I was scared, confused, angry, shocked and annoyed. I think at that moment in time you aren't sure how to respond.
Just because it's being brought to light now doesn't mean it wasn't happening before. A lot of the Harvey W. Sexual harassment cases are from years back and only now have those women been able to be brave enough to speak up together.
Sexual harassment from either side isn't right, no one should be made to feel like and object and condemned if they report harassment.
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"Chatting people up in real life is now not allowed. Office romances and now pretty much done. The only way to find a prospective partner these days is a swipey app. Welcome to 2018.
You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately."
I've worked in offices for over 40 years and I've experienced innappropriate behaviour from male colleagues. In the wider world including swinging I've experienced inappropriate behaviour from men and women. I am able to distinguish between harrassment and friendliness.
The problem I have is that a tiny minority of women aren't and they often have loud voices. This in my opinion means we run the risk of all of us being labelled as seeing harrassment where there is none which many people would be only too glad to do. |
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"Chatting people up in real life is now not allowed. Office romances and now pretty much done. The only way to find a prospective partner these days is a swipey app. Welcome to 2018.
You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately.
I've worked in offices for over 40 years and I've experienced innappropriate behaviour from male colleagues. In the wider world including swinging I've experienced inappropriate behaviour from men and women. I am able to distinguish between harrassment and friendliness.
The problem I have is that a tiny minority of women aren't and they often have loud voices. This in my opinion means we run the risk of all of us being labelled as seeing harrassment where there is none which many people would be only too glad to do."
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"Chatting people up in real life is now not allowed. Office romances and now pretty much done. The only way to find a prospective partner these days is a swipey app. Welcome to 2018.
You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately."
As a young office junior I got harrassed. I took it further (even then I had the balls to take it on). He got sacked. Now I would not hesitate to deal with harrassment of my staff, male or female. They come to work to work not be hit on. |
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""I think youre gorgeous" - flirting.
"Id shag the arse off you" - sexual harassment.
You see its easy really. One way you act like a gentleman, the other way you act like a total knob.
"I think you're gorgeous" said to a young woman by creepy man in position of power several times a day for weeks on end despite her being obviously embarrassed - sexual harrassment.
"I think you're gorgeous" said by man on first date, once and with a genuine smile - not harrassment.
This is the difference that some men and women either don't understand or refuse to understand.
It's about context."
Although I do see what I think the OP is saying. A woman might take a man smiling and talking to her as just nice.
If that woman had 100 men in one day doing the same thing it can feel odd. So the 101st man might get an irate reaction from her but he'll wonder what on earth he did. |
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"That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects..."
How can it be difficult to know what to do ?
If you are in Tesco don't put your cock in the woman's ear ole....
If you are in the office don't juggle her tits to see if she gets the job.
If you are on here read profiles.
In short think of the context.
Don't make sexual advances to young mums pushing a buggy and walking with a toddler and carrying six carrier bags....... prob safe to say she's NOT looking for sex. |
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"Chatting people up in real life is now not allowed. Office romances and now pretty much done. The only way to find a prospective partner these days is a swipey app. Welcome to 2018.
You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately.
I've worked in offices for over 40 years and I've experienced innappropriate behaviour from male colleagues. In the wider world including swinging I've experienced inappropriate behaviour from men and women. I am able to distinguish between harrassment and friendliness.
The problem I have is that a tiny minority of women aren't and they often have loud voices. This in my opinion means we run the risk of all of us being labelled as seeing harrassment where there is none which many people would be only too glad to do.
Well said, I totally agree"
Don't misunderstand my comments as condoning any wrong behaviour. I am of the opinion that many men *still* can't see the difference either but the change isn't going to happen over night or by damning every man.
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
You've contradicted yourself. If you think you can't flirt without sexually harassing a woman, don't.
Ok, so perhaps you've been working with a female colleague for a while now. She comes into work in a really nice dress, and you say " you look really nice in that dress". You mean it as a compliment but she she's it as a unwanted advance...
Would you say that to a male colleague?
I would if he looked good in a new suite...and I'm sure he would take that as a compliment the same as the vast majority or women would"
Did you notice the difference in your own language ?
You told 'her' that she looks really nice in that dress.
You told him he looked good.
I often say to colleagues that I like their blouse or dress. I NEVER tell them they 'look really nice in that dress' ........
The tone of voice and facial gesticulations would matter too.
It is possible to tell a friend that you like their new shirt / jumper etc but MEN do seem to think that women welcome their opinions on how they look ....... believe you me when i'm getting ready for work the last person on my mind is some bloke in the midst of some kind of crisis never mind what he thinks of my clothes.
Maybe when men speak to women as adult people we won't have to listen to the 'sweetheart' pretty frock dross like he's my daddy giving the okay for how i dress and behave. |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life.
It's not double standards it's sexual harassment, it's just as bad when a woman does it to a man as the other way around "
I don't see that as sexual harassment. I see that more as inappropriate behaviour which most us deal with with a quick fuckin' gerrof or moving out of the way. Male or Female. |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life.
It's not double standards it's sexual harassment, it's just as bad when a woman does it to a man as the other way around
I don't see that as sexual harassment. I see that more as inappropriate behaviour which most us deal with with a quick fuckin' gerrof or moving out of the way. Male or Female. "
Also the idea that "women are just as bad as guys" is frankly laughable. Yes, some men are sexually harassed but the vast majority of sexual harassment victims are women. |
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You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately.
I fully agree with what you say... Have you ever had a male colleague say or do something that someone else would see as inappropriate?. "
No. But apparently I'm just lucky. |
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"When I’m out at a weekend I’ll get women whistling at me or grabbing my ass or even grabbing my crotch sometimes. Even as recently as Wednesday night - I was out with mates and a random woman in her 40’s grabbed me and tried to kiss me. She didn’t even say hello she just sat next to me and went for it. Her friend laughed and tried to do the same to my mate I was with. Both of them made a comment about needing to kiss a black guy.
It’s double standards. Women are as bad as guys. I agree it’s annoying as fuck. But I don’t think it’s something worth making huge public statements and allegations that could damage a persons whole life.
It's not double standards it's sexual harassment, it's just as bad when a woman does it to a man as the other way around
I don't see that as sexual harassment. I see that more as inappropriate behaviour which most us deal with with a quick fuckin' gerrof or moving out of the way. Male or Female. "
I do think we need to make it clear to our kids from a young age that telling someone roundly to "fuck off" is ok in certain circumstances. |
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"Chatting people up in real life is now not allowed. Office romances and now pretty much done. The only way to find a prospective partner these days is a swipey app. Welcome to 2018.
You can chat people up and have office romances. Just be aware of the situation and cues from the other person. If they are not interested, don't pursue anything! I'm really not sure what the confusion is or why it's hard...
I've worked in offices for about 18 years and I've never had a male colleague speak to me inappropriately.
I fully agree with what you say... Have you ever had a male colleague say or do something that someone else would see as inappropriate?. "
However, I would like to point out that before I worked in an office, I worked as a waitress/barmaid for a number of years. There I did get sexual harassment. A lot! |
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"There is a massive increase in sexual harassment accusations in society at the moment... I think it's wrongly be harassed, but are we being hyper sensitive to it?.
At the same time there seems to be an ever increasing amount of ladies on here looking for masters, domination and liking to treated rough during sexual encounters..
Is society perhaps trying to go against nature?. I'm just intrigued what people think?.
I'm going to assume that you've never been sexually harassed if you think there's any form of 'hypersensitivity' to it. To be honest the 2 words shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
It seems to be common now only because people are getting brave and admitting what has happened and what they have been through, it's very publicly documented how many women get told that they could have avoided being sexually assaulted/harrased had they been dressed differently etc so majority of women keep things to themselves.
As someone who regularly gets their ads grabbed/slapped when im minding my own business if I kick up a fuss about it I don't want to be told that I'm being hypersensitive about it
Really well said.
I think that if a guy doesn't know the difference between sexual harassment and flirting, he needs to stay the hell away from women.
I think the vast amount of men do know the difference, including myself hopefully. But at the moment even a flirt could be seen as harassment perhaps?.
Depends on what your idea of flirting is if you think in any way it could be seen as sexual harrasment, the fact that you're asking is a bit worrying imo"
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"I think it trivialises the real serious issues when things like a touch on the back/shoulder is lumped together with horrendous things like r ape and all just labelled sexual harassment, although overall it’s great that women feel they can come forward now and hopefully that forces people in general to be more respectful towards each other "
back leads to shoulder, shoulder leads to waist, waist leads to thigh.....there lies the path to the dark side of the force. Sorry I just couldn't resist.....but on a more serious note us guys have to bear in mind the fact that more often than not there is an imbalance of power.
However mild and insignificant it may seem to us as males. When you touch a woman shoulder at work she may feel too intimidated to make it an issue and try to brush it off. Unfortunately a lot of guys see the lack of a reaction as a green light to take things further. |
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"I think it trivialises the real serious issues when things like a touch on the back/shoulder is lumped together with horrendous things like r ape and all just labelled sexual harassment, although overall it’s great that women feel they can come forward now and hopefully that forces people in general to be more respectful towards each other
back leads to shoulder, shoulder leads to waist, waist leads to thigh.....there lies the path to the dark side of the force. Sorry I just couldn't resist.....but on a more serious note us guys have to bear in mind the fact that more often than not there is an imbalance of power.
However mild and insignificant it may seem to us as males. When you touch a woman shoulder at work she may feel too intimidated to make it an issue and try to brush it off. Unfortunately a lot of guys see the lack of a reaction as a green light to take things further."
I'd ignore a hand on my shoulder as I know that sometimes rejection can lead to issues. He might not have realised it was a problem- I've had a boss put his hand on my shoulder because that's the kind of guy he is, he certainly wasn't being sexual. |
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"I think it’s always been there but now people are more vocal about it.. thanks to Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Wienstein. Making sexual harassment impossible for the ordinary guy. What a bastard. !"
Can't stick my hand up women's skirts anymore without them bitchin' wtf?! |
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"I think it’s always been there but now people are more vocal about it.. thanks to Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Wienstein. Making sexual harassment impossible for the ordinary guy. What a bastard. !
Can't stick my hand up women's skirts anymore without them bitchin' wtf?!"
Lol that’s not what I meant.. because of him now we have more awareness and victims can raise their voices against it.. it wasn’t like that before
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There is a man at work that will often make comments about how I nice I look, or nice dress or shoes etc, and yes it does make feel uncomfortable; when I'm getting dressed I wonder if it's too much, should I make less of an effort to try and discourage him from any more remarks, I shouldn't be made to feel like that going to or being at work.
What makes it harder is that his wife is a friend and he's clinically depressed as well as having lots of other issues, so if I say anything it's going to cause a shit storm that I really don't want, he had been making other comments which were worse and I told him to back off as it was wholly inappropriate, so he's toned it down to what could be construed as innocent comments but I feel have more sexual undertones than outwardly visible, it's all about how it's recieved than what's said which is incidentally our policy at work too.
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"That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects...
I think most women are aware that a friendly approach from a man isn't sinister in anyway. The acid test for anybody I think is to stop and think "would I be happy for my sister/mother/daughter to be treated this way" if the answer is no, leave it."
This is the best answer. |
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"That's a very good reply, thanks. As a male at the moment, it's getting hard to know what to do.. You are almost afraid that any advance could be seen as harassment.
That's partly why I'm on here. I know that on here people are looking to be approached sexually.
But when I am being a dom I have to know what the woman expects..."
Everyone should respect each other and in an ideal world they do. Yes, people have become over sensitive but it also seems that people abuse their positions of power. Teachers, coaches, film producers, etc taking advantage of those they are meant to be protecting.
Dom/sub is about communication and trust and much more respectful about boundaries. |
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"I think it’s always been there but now people are more vocal about it.. thanks to Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Wienstein. Making sexual harassment impossible for the ordinary guy. What a bastard. !
Can't stick my hand up women's skirts anymore without them bitchin' wtf?!
Lol that’s not what I meant.. because of him now we have more awareness and victims can raise their voices against it.. it wasn’t like that before
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Sorry I was just messing, I didn't mean to infer that you're an arse.
I agree that his case has given a lot of women the confidence to say something as there's more chance of them being believed now.
Also possibly more chance of some women making shit up to get attention/ causes issues for men they don't like etc though.  |
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"I think it’s always been there but now people are more vocal about it.. thanks to Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Wienstein. Making sexual harassment impossible for the ordinary guy. What a bastard. !
Can't stick my hand up women's skirts anymore without them bitchin' wtf?!
Lol that’s not what I meant.. because of him now we have more awareness and victims can raise their voices against it.. it wasn’t like that before
Sorry I was just messing, I didn't mean to infer that you're an arse.
I agree that his case has given a lot of women the confidence to say something as there's more chance of them being believed now.
Also possibly more chance of some women making shit up to get attention/ causes issues for men they don't like etc though. "
I think society needs guidelines in term of sex and harassment |
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I do not give out random compliments anymore. They can be seen as harrassment. Being a gentleman also has its problems nowadays. Just the other day i kept open a heavy and broken automatic door for a woman going into a local business. "I can open a door myself" she scowled. And stood there until i let go of it. 30 seconds later she came through the doorway...after another man opened it for her. |
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"I do not give out random compliments anymore. They can be seen as harrassment. Being a gentleman also has its problems nowadays. Just the other day i kept open a heavy and broken automatic door for a woman going into a local business. "I can open a door myself" she scowled. And stood there until i let go of it. 30 seconds later she came through the doorway...after another man opened it for her."
I always appreciate a door held for me from a woman or man, as I do the same. It's just manners |
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"I think it’s always been there but now people are more vocal about it.. thanks to Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Wienstein. Making sexual harassment impossible for the ordinary guy. What a bastard. !"
You know that's not what he meant |
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"I do not give out random compliments anymore. They can be seen as harrassment. Being a gentleman also has its problems nowadays. Just the other day i kept open a heavy and broken automatic door for a woman going into a local business. "I can open a door myself" she scowled. And stood there until i let go of it. 30 seconds later she came through the doorway...after another man opened it for her."
That's not sexual harassment though, on the face of it it's rudeness on her behalf |
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