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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

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By *09309309Woman  over a year ago

Dublin

Down with that sort of thing.

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By *andm_69Couple  over a year ago

Stevenage

Cool story bro

Who blew out this time

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Not for me. Is this your experience of swinging?

I have to say that some couples behave less than respectfully towards men but if men avoided these people and didn't jump through their hoops they'd change their attitude. People only treat you how you allow yourself to be treated.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't see the connection

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple  over a year ago

Leeds

There are a number of "single males" on here who treat people far worse than dirt. For example the foul, abusive insults they send if a female/couple don't want to meet them.

Sadly, the behaviour of the few reflects on the many. But we've never treated anyone on here like dirt that's for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it?

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

Nah - a wank is sex with someone I love.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it? "

It was part of a wide point I made on another thread about the emotional pitfalls of swinging as a single.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On today's episode of "it's not fair"...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On today's episode of "it's not fair"..."

I’ll get my violin out....although I can’t play. I apologise

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple  over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Not sure you represent all single men on Fab. Some are very happy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

Crazytown can do that to a man.

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By *ANDA2Couple  over a year ago

Henley Arden

Life’s not fair.

Build a bridge and get over it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it?

It was part of a wide point I made on another thread about the emotional pitfalls of swinging as a single. "

But this isn’t your thread. The OP has made no attempt to explain why swinging is a glorified wank and how his two points are connected. It makes no sense.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"On today's episode of "it's not fair"...

I’ll get my violin out....although I can’t play. I apologise "

Sadly, reactions like this mean that the OP has a point.

Watch a single female post a "woe is me" thread and see how different the reactions are both from males, and females.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it?

It was part of a wide point I made on another thread about the emotional pitfalls of swinging as a single.

But this isn’t your thread. The OP has made no attempt to explain why swinging is a glorified wank and how his two points are connected. It makes no sense. "

I know, I was attempting to give some context to his remarks.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple  over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Looking at your status OP it seems someone has upset you. Why not take it up with them? Not fair to tar groups of people being the same.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On today's episode of "it's not fair"...

I’ll get my violin out....although I can’t play. I apologise

Sadly, reactions like this mean that the OP has a point.

Watch a single female post a "woe is me" thread and see how different the reactions are both from males, and females. "

Nope

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By *olarfoxMan  over a year ago

North Cambs


"Not sure you represent all single men on Fab. Some are very happy "

^^Here, here!! . I like to think I am in this bracket! I have only had one or two encounters with couples which have left me feeling remotely uncomfortable about how they treated or regarded me, whereas I have had a great number with couples where the whole rapport was one of respect, appreciation and mutual enjoyment!!

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By *ilver_StarMan  over a year ago

Warwickshire

Enjoying solo chatting, camming and meeting with others is all valid - a time and place for everything!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op ,when you grow a vagina and some boobs then you can be in charge ,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP, having a quick look at your previous posts suggests you are a very negative person, most of your threads are complaints in one way or another. Don’t dwell on those that arn’t interested in you and concentrate on those that are. You’ll be far happier for it. We can’t all be everybody’s cup of tea can we and you are one single guy amongst a sea of many so they can afford to be choosy. Don’t take it so personally.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"There are a number of "single males" on here who treat people far worse than dirt. For example the foul, abusive insults they send if a female/couple don't want to meet them.

Sadly, the behaviour of the few reflects on the many. But we've never treated anyone on here like dirt that's for sure."

I second that.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Not sure you represent all single men on Fab. Some are very happy

^^Here, here!! . I like to think I am in this bracket! I have only had one or two encounters with couples which have left me feeling remotely uncomfortable about how they treated or regarded me, whereas I have had a great number with couples where the whole rapport was one of respect, appreciation and mutual enjoyment!! "

Sometimes the odd one or two not so good encounters are a good learning curve. So not necessarily a totally bad experience.

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By *09309309Woman  over a year ago

Dublin


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it? "

I dunno.

But I think it involves glitter.

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By *09309309Woman  over a year ago

Dublin


"Op ,when you grow a vagina and some boobs then you can be in charge ,"

This guy gets it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "
glorified cheating

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

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By *is vixen at playCouple  over a year ago

Dundee


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

Cant say i found that when i was on as a single guy, yea could be frustrating at times but never got treated like dirt. It is what you make of it. Some do spoil it unfortunately but thats just the way it goes. Its not a site where cus you've joined your entitled to sex, its about much more than that. G

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By *arkside2698Man  over a year ago

luton

Well if any couples want to use me and then drop me, I'm more than happy to be their spare cock!

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank."

Precisely why I won't meet them for 1-1 sex.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank."

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective. "

Hardy an assertion of sexual prowess telling me they get off on me getting off. Some men actually do.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Op ,when you grow a vagina and some boobs then you can be in charge ,

This guy gets it "

He could also get a partner

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By *verysmileMan  over a year ago

Canterbury

As Woody Allen once said "masturbation is simply making love to you best friend".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I quite like the sound of a glorified wank. Wonder where I might get one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are men, women and couples who treat others like dirt. Not just one group. They’re the minority though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think there is an element of single men here who think that if a woman is here she's a bit of a slag and her fulfilment doesn't really matter. Ergo an encounter becomes a glorified wank for them. I miss 3sumqueen, she articulated this so much better than I can

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

Don't let them treat you that way. Some people are nice and some treat others like meat.

Chin up.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"I think there is an element of single men here who think that if a woman is here she's a bit of a slag and her fulfilment doesn't really matter. Ergo an encounter becomes a glorified wank for them. I miss 3sumqueen, she articulated this so much better than I can "

I think you're doing very well xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think there is an element of single men here who think that if a woman is here she's a bit of a slag and her fulfilment doesn't really matter. Ergo an encounter becomes a glorified wank for them. I miss 3sumqueen, she articulated this so much better than I can "

You make the point well.

I miss her too.

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By *09309309Woman  over a year ago

Dublin


"I think there is an element of single men here who think that if a woman is here she's a bit of a slag and her fulfilment doesn't really matter. Ergo an encounter becomes a glorified wank for them. I miss 3sumqueen, she articulated this so much better than I can

I think you're doing very well xx"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well if any couples want to use me and then drop me, I'm more than happy to be their spare cock! "

Which is exactly why men are often seen this way!!! Someone to be used!

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective.

Hardy an assertion of sexual prowess telling me they get off on me getting off. Some men actually do."

I don't get off on it, but I consider it a part of being a good lover. Maybe attitudes have changed, but during my formative sexual years, I was more worried about not pleasing my partner than anything else.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Well if any couples want to use me and then drop me, I'm more than happy to be their spare cock!

Which is exactly why men are often seen this way!!! Someone to be used! "

not only men.

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By *rallvalCouple  over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

Diddums.

If you think you have it tough ask a single woman the dogs abuse some get for turning down a guy.

I filter out the nut jobs before my missus sees them but we still get demanding and explicit messages despite it saying in the profile that we don't want single guys messaging. We would block all single guys but that would mean blocking a few single bloke friends.

Every single bit of abuse we received is from a single guy throwing the toys out because we didn't fall over ourselves to take up his offer to 'shag your bitch and make her cum like she's never fun before' that was a memorable message.

Or 'I want to fuck your wife on Friday night but I'm straight so you can't watch or take part'.

The bad apples spoil it for all the single guys.

If we want a single guy then we see nice respectful guys in the forums or guys with good feedback that we can ask if he would like to join us.

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By *litterbabeWoman  over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way the uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it?

I dunno.

But I think it involves glitter."

I've got nothing to do with any of this.

Innocent, I say innocent.

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By *litterbabeWoman  over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way the uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it?

I dunno.

But I think it involves glitter."

I've got nothing to do with any of this.

Innocent, I say innocent.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar.

Diddums.

If you think you have it tough ask a single woman the dogs abuse some get for turning down a guy.

I filter out the nut jobs before my missus sees them but we still get demanding and explicit messages despite it saying in the profile that we don't want single guys messaging. We would block all single guys but that would mean blocking a few single bloke friends.

Every single bit of abuse we received is from a single guy throwing the toys out because we didn't fall over ourselves to take up his offer to 'shag your bitch and make her cum like she's never fun before' that was a memorable message.

Or 'I want to fuck your wife on Friday night but I'm straight so you can't watch or take part'.

The bad apples spoil it for all the single guys.

If we want a single guy then we see nice respectful guys in the forums or guys with good feedback that we can ask if he would like to join us.

"

Disagree. I like the bad apples because they make me look good.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way the uproar.

So where does the glorified wank bit come in to it?

I dunno.

But I think it involves glitter.

I've got nothing to do with any of this.

Innocent, I say innocent. "

Until proven guilty...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For some people, fucking someone from here is a slight improvement to wanking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective.

Hardy an assertion of sexual prowess telling me they get off on me getting off. Some men actually do.

I don't get off on it, but I consider it a part of being a good lover. Maybe attitudes have changed, but during my formative sexual years, I was more worried about not pleasing my partner than anything else. "

I'm not talking about you though.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective.

Hardy an assertion of sexual prowess telling me they get off on me getting off. Some men actually do.

I don't get off on it, but I consider it a part of being a good lover. Maybe attitudes have changed, but during my formative sexual years, I was more worried about not pleasing my partner than anything else.

I'm not talking about you though. "

I know - that's why I postulated that maybe attitudes had changed....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective.

Hardy an assertion of sexual prowess telling me they get off on me getting off. Some men actually do.

I don't get off on it, but I consider it a part of being a good lover. Maybe attitudes have changed, but during my formative sexual years, I was more worried about not pleasing my partner than anything else.

I'm not talking about you though.

I know - that's why I postulated that maybe attitudes had changed...."

Thanks for making me feel 180.

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By *amesB66Man  over a year ago

St Peter Port

It would be wonderful if I had a 100% reply rate to my infrequent messages...better still if they were all positive!

This, however, is the real world and if I don't get a reply, or receive a non complimentary one, it's no reflection on who I am, so I just move on and forget about it ( whilst quietly shedding an inner tear )

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Assertions of sexual prowess are a warning light for me. Sex is subjective.

Hardy an assertion of sexual prowess telling me they get off on me getting off. Some men actually do.

I don't get off on it, but I consider it a part of being a good lover. Maybe attitudes have changed, but during my formative sexual years, I was more worried about not pleasing my partner than anything else.

I'm not talking about you though.

I know - that's why I postulated that maybe attitudes had changed....

Thanks for making me feel 180. "

I was talking about in recent years, as opposed to the 90s when I had my formative experiences.

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By *hamboy69Man  over a year ago

huddersfield

Let’s face it I’m sure members all groups on here are guilty of a poor attitude towards the opposite sex.Surely the way forward is to concentrate all your energy on people with a positive and similar mindset to yourself that way you’ll have lots of fun

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let’s face it I’m sure members all groups on here are guilty of a poor attitude towards the opposite sex.Surely the way forward is to concentrate all your energy on people with a positive and similar mindset to yourself that way you’ll have lots of fun"

I'm not being funny. But do you honestly think people go out to find people who aren't like that? I haven't ever had sex with a man that I thought for one second was going to be shit. It just turned out that way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP what is it that you feel happens to only single men that you regard as such bad treatment?

Mrs

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By *olarfoxMan  over a year ago

North Cambs


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Precisely why I won't meet them for 1-1 sex. "

I really think that is a prime example of tarring all single men with the same brush - I have had lots of 1-1s and for me it is of the utmost importance that we each enjoy the encounter as much as the other!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OP what is it that you feel happens to only single men that you regard as such bad treatment?

Mrs"

Suspect the OP has vented his frustration and not inclined to continue the conversation.

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

If you saw the messages that I receive off of men, you'd be glad you're a single male!

I get talked to as if I was a sex worker!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My own experience is that none of the single men I've met, except one, have kept their assertion of making sure I was satisfied. And I'm not particularly difficult. So yeah, in my experience, I was a glorified wank.

Precisely why I won't meet them for 1-1 sex.

I really think that is a prime example of tarring all single men with the same brush - I have had lots of 1-1s and for me it is of the utmost importance that we each enjoy the encounter as much as the other!"

How many negative experiences do you have to have before stopping doing what's hurting you?

Maybe for some people it's harder to find compatibility? You may be an amazing fuck for ten women but not so great for the eleventh.

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By *layfullsamMan  over a year ago

Solihull


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

Man up princess, it is what it is

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple  over a year ago

Leeds


"OP what is it that you feel happens to only single men that you regard as such bad treatment?

Mrs

Suspect the OP has vented his frustration and not inclined to continue the conversation."

It's one of those rant and rum posts lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OP what is it that you feel happens to only single men that you regard as such bad treatment?

Mrs

Suspect the OP has vented his frustration and not inclined to continue the conversation.

It's one of those rant and rum posts lol."

Or rum, rant and run!

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By *hoot45Man  over a year ago

Ramsgate

Well if you are so inclined then meet another man. My experiences with bi and bicurious men have been spasmodic but great fun and respectful.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches"

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned.

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By *ANDA2Couple  over a year ago

Henley Arden


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned. "

Which is why I believe making a charge for joining would improve Fab.

I do know and understand the reasons why and how Fab started.

But now the free factor is becoming its own worst enemy. I’m not talking excessive charge. Just say for example everyone had to be a ‘silver site ‘ supporter. It wouldn’t stop all dick heads but it would certainly reduce them.

But that’s a new can o worms.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned.

Which is why I believe making a charge for joining would improve Fab.

I do know and understand the reasons why and how Fab started.

But now the free factor is becoming its own worst enemy. I’m not talking excessive charge. Just say for example everyone had to be a ‘silver site ‘ supporter. It wouldn’t stop all dick heads but it would certainly reduce them.

But that’s a new can o worms. "

Yeah I've thought about that, with fab you get a lot of functionality without paying. Other sites are barely usable without paying. Fab is the only one with a vibrant forum. I'm not sure if that's related to it being free or not.

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By *rallvalCouple  over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned. "

Sadly the same can be said for the dunes and kiosks in Gran Canaria except there guys have spent hundreds to be 'knee deep in pussy' and don't like it when they are rejected.

At least on Fab you can block the idiots, it is a bit difficult when the guy is physically standing over you with his dick out and you are just trying to get some sun.

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By *ANDA2Couple  over a year ago

Henley Arden


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned.

Which is why I believe making a charge for joining would improve Fab.

I do know and understand the reasons why and how Fab started.

But now the free factor is becoming its own worst enemy. I’m not talking excessive charge. Just say for example everyone had to be a ‘silver site ‘ supporter. It wouldn’t stop all dick heads but it would certainly reduce them.

But that’s a new can o worms.

Yeah I've thought about that, with fab you get a lot of functionality without paying. Other sites are barely usable without paying. Fab is the only one with a vibrant forum. I'm not sure if that's related to it being free or not. "

I think it depends if you want a vibrant forum or better swinging experience.

The vibrant forum is nice but far too many moaning single males who don’t understand swinging and joined because they thought they would get a quick and easy shag.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think single guys take it as an insult if somebody doesn't read or reply to their message.

Just because a couple or a female are online doesn't mean they are looking to meet right at the moment, we can be at work or wherever and just nip online looking at pics, or on the forum etc and not even look at messages till a later time.

We know there are lots of good guys on here, lots that are fit and good for fun, but we only look for one when the mood takes us, that doesn't mean we treat single guys badly.

Stop taking it so seriously and taking it personally if somebody doesn't want to fuck you just because you are online and horny

Rant over

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By *hoot45Man  over a year ago

Ramsgate


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

Don’t run after buses or people - another one will be along in a minute

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned.

Which is why I believe making a charge for joining would improve Fab.

I do know and understand the reasons why and how Fab started.

But now the free factor is becoming its own worst enemy. I’m not talking excessive charge. Just say for example everyone had to be a ‘silver site ‘ supporter. It wouldn’t stop all dick heads but it would certainly reduce them.

But that’s a new can o worms.

Yeah I've thought about that, with fab you get a lot of functionality without paying. Other sites are barely usable without paying. Fab is the only one with a vibrant forum. I'm not sure if that's related to it being free or not.

I think it depends if you want a vibrant forum or better swinging experience.

The vibrant forum is nice but far too many moaning single males who don’t understand swinging and joined because they thought they would get a quick and easy shag. "

And the fact that so few use the forum search so the same topics come up again and again... and again

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned. "

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By *ex mad ladMan  over a year ago

Sussex


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

How dare you a wanks much better then this site full of honkers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned. "

That's about the size of it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op, if the site isn't working for you, change your approach or leave. Moaning about it and blaming others will achieve precisely nothing.

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By *agermeisterMan  over a year ago

Leeds

Another "Poor me" post.

Yes it is difficult for a single guy. Nobody ever said life was fair.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned.

That's about the size of it"

It was Jay, and he said they'd be knee deep in clunge. He'd banged three chicks a day for the last week.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

Because their mate at the pub, bullshit ben, told them that if they created a crap profile on a free website then they'd be knee deep in pussy by the end of the day, and they believed it. Now they are disillusioned.

That's about the size of it

It was Jay, and he said they'd be knee deep in clunge. He'd banged three chicks a day for the last week."

Exactly, just like caravan club

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches"

It's not just men - there have been a myriad of "woe is me" threads from women, it's just that the reaction is different on those threads. It's usually full of men "White Knighting" and other women being generally supportive.

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By *iversong321Woman  over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Did you stamp your feet as you typed that OP?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've always been treated fine tbf

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

It's not just men - there have been a myriad of "woe is me" threads from women, it's just that the reaction is different on those threads. It's usually full of men "White Knighting" and other women being generally supportive. "

It's so tempting to ask those women what the common denominator is in their "all men are shit" posts

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

It's not just men - there have been a myriad of "woe is me" threads from women, it's just that the reaction is different on those threads. It's usually full of men "White Knighting" and other women being generally supportive.

It's so tempting to ask those women what the common denominator is in their "all men are shit" posts"

Yes it would be fun, although the answer is often staringly obvious.

The potential for NSA pulls in people with no social skills of all genders who can't get laid elsewhere.

In fact, that is usually part of my advice to men who seem like they genuinely want advice as opposed to a reason to moan - if you couldn't pull in a "normal" situation, then you probably can't here. It doesn't work with women though for obvious reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

It's not just men - there have been a myriad of "woe is me" threads from women, it's just that the reaction is different on those threads. It's usually full of men "White Knighting" and other women being generally supportive.

It's so tempting to ask those women what the common denominator is in their "all men are shit" posts"

I guess I'm lucky that I had one lovely experience. But maybe if I hadn't had it I wouldn't have kept trying for so long to find it again.

I feel it's down to different needs and different expectations. If they match it's wonderful, but maybe, for some men and some women, that's rare. It doesn't always make them wrong for being disappointed. And when they see how many people do have good times, it could highlight their own bad experiences even more.

Callous dismissal of people's experiences is exactly like the attitude the majority of men have acted towards me. It's all about them and God forbid anyone else needs anything different.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Down with that sort of thing. "

Easy now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why are so many men on this site such whingey, cry baby bitches

It's not just men - there have been a myriad of "woe is me" threads from women, it's just that the reaction is different on those threads. It's usually full of men "White Knighting" and other women being generally supportive.

It's so tempting to ask those women what the common denominator is in their "all men are shit" posts

Yes it would be fun, although the answer is often staringly obvious.

The potential for NSA pulls in people with no social skills of all genders who can't get laid elsewhere.

In fact, that is usually part of my advice to men who seem like they genuinely want advice as opposed to a reason to moan - if you couldn't pull in a "normal" situation, then you probably can't here. It doesn't work with women though for obvious reasons. "

I think it depends on what they expect from sex with a relative stranger. I expect sex. I know it could end up not being the best sex I've ever had, but I try my best to make it good sex.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"I think there is an element of single men here who think that if a woman is here she's a bit of a slag and her fulfilment doesn't really matter. Ergo an encounter becomes a glorified wank for them. I miss 3sumqueen, she articulated this so much better than I can

You make the point well.

I miss her too. "

Me too!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

its very amusing this tit for tat ladies

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Isnt swinging just a glorified wank? As us men get treated like dirt by majority of couples on here. Its unfair that we get treated like this. If single women got treated this way there would be uproar. "

A lot of them say they do. I've never felt that, but maybe I picked lucky.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"its very amusing this tit for tat ladies "

A bit tedious and repetitive I think though?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I think there are some bloody great guys here in Fab. I must know because I’m sleeping with them!

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By *thwiltsmMan  over a year ago

salisbury

Is a glorified wank that bad anyway?

I’m not sure what OP expects from a swingers site, if he is looking for a relationship try dating apps.

I think most couples just want to have a little fun with a guy and that’s it not a lasting friendship so I guess that makes a guy a glorified sex toy

I’m happy to be a toy lol

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Down with that sort of thing. "

Love it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Down with that sort of thing.

Easy now "

Careful now

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