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Legality of bdsm ?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I had a photo of wife’s spanked bottom on here taken down yesterday without knowing why. Posted on here about it and was told that it was illegal for site to show pictures of violence or bodily harm. I now accept that even though picture was extremely tame this is the law and the site had no choice. I have since read up on this and it would seem that almost all forms of bdsm could be deemed illegal if there is harm done to another even though this is a consented activities between two adults. I don’t understand how the state could still interfere in the sex lifes of it citizens |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"I think the state needs to interfere in the sex lives of its citizens in some cases. It just needs to apply the appropriate laws with common sense."
A law is a law. Your common sense might not be the same as others. |
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"I think the state needs to interfere in the sex lives of its citizens in some cases. It just needs to apply the appropriate laws with common sense.
A law is a law. Your common sense might not be the same as others."
It demonstrably isn't.
Without mentioning things that aren't allowed some people's sex lives aren't good for one or more of the participants, thats where the law needs to be applied. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Coming from a position of ignorance (I’m no expert).
I heard something about a case of a group of gay guys who were enjoying fairly extreme bdsm together.
They teach the case as an example in ‘A’ level law, apparently.
I don’t think the law successfully prosecuted them because it was all consensual. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Coming from a position of ignorance (I’m no expert).
I heard something about a case of a group of gay guys who were enjoying fairly extreme bdsm together.
They teach the case as an example in ‘A’ level law, apparently.
I don’t think the law successfully prosecuted them because it was all consensual. " they actually were found guilty and given jail sentences |
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The law is that consensual infliction of physical harm that causes injury that is "more than merely transient" is unlawful. Thus, in theory if you cane someone and they have bruises that last a few days you've committed a criminal offence.
In practice, it's unlikely anyone these days would be prosecuted for something like that absent evidence of ongoing abuse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Coming from a position of ignorance (I’m no expert).
I heard something about a case of a group of gay guys who were enjoying fairly extreme bdsm together.
They teach the case as an example in ‘A’ level law, apparently.
I don’t think the law successfully prosecuted them because it was all consensual. they actually were found guilty and given jail sentences "
good job I wasn’t relying on my flawed knowledge |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I just wonder how the bdsm fetish sites get around these laws I know some are similar to this site but obviously for people more into bdsm but they post photos to surely there must be pictures of red bums or worse on these sites |
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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago
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"I just wonder how the bdsm fetish sites get around these laws I know some are similar to this site but obviously for people more into bdsm but they post photos to surely there must be pictures of red bums or worse on these sites "
An exhibitionist site we used to frequent changed it's rules quite a while back because of that law. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I just wonder how the bdsm fetish sites get around these laws I know some are similar to this site but obviously for people more into bdsm but they post photos to surely there must be pictures of red bums or worse on these sites "
The bdsm fetish sites aren’t uk based however the law is the law, caretakers just move the pics into friends only and notify you of doing so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They teach the case as an example in ‘A’ level law, apparently.
I don’t think the law successfully prosecuted them because it was all consensual. they actually were found guilty and given jail sentences "
For those wishing to know more search spanner trust, leaflets explaining the law on such things are available there.
Most sites that do allow display explicit material tend to be hosted and managed from jurisdictions that are not so hypocritically moralistic as the UK. |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"I think the state needs to interfere in the sex lives of its citizens in some cases. It just needs to apply the appropriate laws with common sense.
A law is a law. Your common sense might not be the same as others.
It demonstrably isn't.
Without mentioning things that aren't allowed some people's sex lives aren't good for one or more of the participants, thats where the law needs to be applied."
But it's not about comon sense. It's where there clearly has been a crime committed. Common sense is a grey area. The laws should be amended to cater for consensuality. |
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"I think the state needs to interfere in the sex lives of its citizens in some cases. It just needs to apply the appropriate laws with common sense.
A law is a law. Your common sense might not be the same as others.
It demonstrably isn't.
Without mentioning things that aren't allowed some people's sex lives aren't good for one or more of the participants, thats where the law needs to be applied.
But it's not about comon sense. It's where there clearly has been a crime committed. Common sense is a grey area. The laws should be amended to cater for consensuality."
ok. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Checked the claim that genital piercing is illegal and it’s a very grey area they are certainly to be recorded as female genital mutalations. But there is part of the law that says in an abusive context |
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We in the UK aren’t citizens, we’re subjects!
"I had a photo of wife’s spanked bottom on here taken down yesterday without knowing why. Posted on here about it and was told that it was illegal for site to show pictures of violence or bodily harm. I now accept that even though picture was extremely tame this is the law and the site had no choice. I have since read up on this and it would seem that almost all forms of bdsm could be deemed illegal if there is harm done to another even though this is a consented activities between two adults. I don’t understand how the state could still interfere in the sex lifes of it citizens"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We in the UK aren’t citizens, we’re subjects!
I had a photo of wife’s spanked bottom on here taken down yesterday without knowing why. Posted on here about it and was told that it was illegal for site to show pictures of violence or bodily harm. I now accept that even though picture was extremely tame this is the law and the site had no choice. I have since read up on this and it would seem that almost all forms of bdsm could be deemed illegal if there is harm done to another even though this is a consented activities between two adults. I don’t understand how the state could still interfere in the sex lifes of it citizens" thats what offended you ? |
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"I think the state needs to interfere in the sex lives of its citizens in some cases. It just needs to apply the appropriate laws with common sense.
A law is a law. Your common sense might not be the same as others."
Common sense is over rated, in my opinion. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Piercing a lady’s genitals in now illegal, slicing a foreskin of for none medical reasons isn’t , the laws a bit iffy on many sections"
So how come piercing studios still off clit and hood piercings then? I've had mine done and have approved pics on here, do I need to be locked up?! |
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Boxing leaves plenty of marks and does plenty of damage, but is legal.
It's only if you get sexual enjoyment out of your spanking that it becomes illegal....
But of course if marks are truly consensual the case is unlikely to come before a Court. |
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"Piercing a lady’s genitals in now illegal, slicing a foreskin of for none medical reasons isn’t , the laws a bit iffy on many sections
So how come piercing studios still off clit and hood piercings then? I've had mine done and have approved pics on here, do I need to be locked up?! "
No, but your piercer could be |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What might be a more pertinent question is whether fab will fall foul of new age verification laws in May? New thread in feedback forum I think? " what effect will they have on here
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
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"What might be a more pertinent question is whether fab will fall foul of new age verification laws in May? New thread in feedback forum I think? what effect will they have on here"
I don't know. I've asked in the feedback forum if the owners know if the site will be affected. If it is, then everyone will have to go through age verification, which means giving a company (which also happens to run most of the porn tube sites) some personal information for them to determine your age. They will then give you some sort of code to input on the site.
Actually, not many people know the exact details of how it will work yet. But basically it's telling the government what adult sites you are on. And it's the websites which will pay for the system in a charge calculated by the individual website's hit rate.
If it is affected, will fab still be free??
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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Been thinking about this a little.
Under contract law there has to be an offer, acceptance, and an exchange.
If the contract is within the applied and implied terms and there is no breach, how can the be illegal?
I have little knowledge of criminal law, the dynamics of the two do cross over at times.
Would be interesting to research if there is a lead case around this. |
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