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"It means someone with a professional job, not escorts. They probably use it as a filter to put off the people that get all upset that the couple are doing better in life than they are." So what's the definition of professional? Degree educated? Earnings? Management level? | |||
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"It means someone with a professional job, not escorts. They probably use it as a filter to put off the people that get all upset that the couple are doing better in life than they are. So what's the definition of professional? Degree educated? Earnings? Management level? " We’re borh degree educated, and both in management roles. However no one job is more important than another. We are just like everyone else we have a job and a life too. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else " Spot on | |||
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"What is a professional couple ? Forgive my ignorance but if a professional lady is someone I can pay. is a professional couple the same ? Or is it wishful thinking " A sex worker is someone you can pay for sex. A professional woman is a woman who has a profession, not a sex worker. | |||
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"It means someone with a professional job, not escorts. They probably use it as a filter to put off the people that get all upset that the couple are doing better in life than they are. So what's the definition of professional? Degree educated? Earnings? Management level? We’re borh degree educated, and both in management roles. However no one job is more important than another. We are just like everyone else we have a job and a life too." So very well said  
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on" Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. " Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them." | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them." That's very true, despite my own professional life I can be put off by people who feel the need to use it in their profile. From experience they're the kind of people who judge others in materialistic ways. I especially despair of the "professional" males and couples who try and buy my company with offers of meals, nice hotels, lingerie and shoes. One man couldn't understand why I didn't want picked up in his Ferrari and taken to his hot tub 
What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully.
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else " Are they? Suppose you think everybody should dumb down rather than be aspirational. What I'd say is that they are just telling people what type of people they are and I guess they'd like to meet similar. | |||
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"Yes it’s to do with their working life! Pretty obvious to me. " | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. " But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Are they? Suppose you think everybody should dumb down rather than be aspirational. What I'd say is that they are just telling people what type of people they are and I guess they'd like to meet similar." | |||
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"It means someone with a professional job, not escorts. They probably use it as a filter to put off the people that get all upset that the couple are doing better in life than they are. So what's the definition of professional? Degree educated? Earnings? Management level? " Ask them. Everyone will have their own interpretation. If I don't understand what someone has asked for on their profile I know they don't want me. I'm not upset about it.  | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point." I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? " I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs " But in your username! | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. " It maybe only one word but lots of words are offensive. Are their nipples gold plated? No! Sex has nothing to do with class or income they just want to tell others what they think they're entitled to. I note that those who think it's harmless tend to come from the more posh counties. You know the sort who shop at aldi and put it in a waitrose bag | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? " If you are more worldly/educated you're likely to have a very different conversation than if you aren't. I know I have a very different level of conversation with educated colleagues to the conversations with my mother who has always had a low end job and no education past 15. I would prefer to meet and spend time with the former rather than the latter | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? If you are more worldly/educated you're likely to have a very different conversation than if you aren't. I know I have a very different level of conversation with educated colleagues to the conversations with my mother who has always had a low end job and no education past 15. I would prefer to meet and spend time with the former rather than the latter" It's an interesting take on it. 7 years ago I found myself redundant and in order to feed and clothe my children I worked as a waitress for 8 months. I was exactly the same person, with the same intelligence but I was viewed unfavourable because of the job I held. Working that menial low paid job motivated me into starting my own business. I've been very lucky that it has been incredibly successful. However I'm still the same person with the same intelligence and personality as I was when I worked as a waitress. Those people who wouldn't meet me then don't deserve to meet me now, if they are judging me on my employment status. This is purely my own opinion though | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs But in your username! "What about our username? | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs But in your username! "More words open to 'interpretation?' always believed self praise was no recommendation?,however feel free to dis regard my views,highest qualification being nvq,not very qualified! | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? If you are more worldly/educated you're likely to have a very different conversation than if you aren't. I know I have a very different level of conversation with educated colleagues to the conversations with my mother who has always had a low end job and no education past 15. I would prefer to meet and spend time with the former rather than the latter It's an interesting take on it. 7 years ago I found myself redundant and in order to feed and clothe my children I worked as a waitress for 8 months. I was exactly the same person, with the same intelligence but I was viewed unfavourable because of the job I held. Working that menial low paid job motivated me into starting my own business. I've been very lucky that it has been incredibly successful. However I'm still the same person with the same intelligence and personality as I was when I worked as a waitress. Those people who wouldn't meet me then don't deserve to meet me now, if they are judging me on my employment status. This is purely my own opinion though " But nobody is saying that won’t meet someone because of the job they do. What’s being said is that there is a greater chance of there being some common ground if both people are from a professional background. If I were made redundant, I would still regard myself as having a profession even if I were not currently working in it. Mrs | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs " 100% This | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs But in your username!
More words open to 'interpretation?' always believed self praise was no recommendation?,however feel free to dis regard my views,highest qualification being nvq,not very qualified! "What would your feeling be if we called ourselves ‘Sexy Swingers’? Mrs | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? If you are more worldly/educated you're likely to have a very different conversation than if you aren't. I know I have a very different level of conversation with educated colleagues to the conversations with my mother who has always had a low end job and no education past 15. I would prefer to meet and spend time with the former rather than the latter It's an interesting take on it. 7 years ago I found myself redundant and in order to feed and clothe my children I worked as a waitress for 8 months. I was exactly the same person, with the same intelligence but I was viewed unfavourable because of the job I held. Working that menial low paid job motivated me into starting my own business. I've been very lucky that it has been incredibly successful. However I'm still the same person with the same intelligence and personality as I was when I worked as a waitress. Those people who wouldn't meet me then don't deserve to meet me now, if they are judging me on my employment status. This is purely my own opinion though " I am a very different person to the person I was before education and a challenging job. I have very much changed and grown. | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. I'm genuinely interested in what way you think conversations would be different? I find conversations tend to be different with people who have a profession versus people who don’t have a profession, and I find I usually (but not always) prefer conversation with the former. We don’t use the word on our profile, but we have taken note of profiles who do use that word on the basis that there is a higher chance of there being some common ground. Mrs But in your username!
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What would your feeling be if we called ourselves ‘Sexy Swingers’?
Mrs"Indeed! We call ourselves nicecouple. Of course it's for other people to decide if it's true in their opinion. Everyone ought to be able to describe themselves how they wish without negative judgement on a swingers site...oughtn't they? | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them." We wouldn't care to attend a bondage and caviar evening anyway  | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them." So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality. | |||
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"Maybe its one of those filters we have in life and not just in here, that if you have to question it, then its not for you. It's not about being better, just being different. " | |||
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"I would assume they mean in work life. For instance certain job titles are deemed professionals. Why? No idea, Male is a teacher female is a Matron. But they are just our jobs once out of work we are just like anybody else in the world people." There are certain professions where one continues to be of that profession outside of paid hours, for example doctors and nurses have a duty of care. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality." The people we have met through Fab who use that word on their profile are all very nice people and certainly don’t have overinflated egos. And we've met a huge variety of very nice people from all walks of life via Fab. Mrs | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality." That's quite an inference from one word  | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality. The people we have met through Fab who use that word on their profile are all very nice people and certainly don’t have overinflated egos. And we've met a huge variety of very nice people from all walks of life via Fab. Mrs" No matter what you are or what you do or what you have or your education or your background. You can still be a nice person. Personality isn't about your status in life it's about your soul.Its about who you are not who your above. | |||
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"It does seem that those who dare to describe themselves as professional are potentially subjecting themselves to a hell of a lot of abuse on these frequently ‘professional’ thread. ‘Up their own arse’ is an expression I’ve seen numerous times in threads like these, amongst other equally unpleasant comments. Are these criticisms really justified? Mrs" No, they can't possibly be justified in every case. It's a shame that a simple word elicits such strong feelings. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality. The people we have met through Fab who use that word on their profile are all very nice people and certainly don’t have overinflated egos. And we've met a huge variety of very nice people from all walks of life via Fab. Mrs No matter what you are or what you do or what you have or your education or your background. You can still be a nice person. Personality isn't about your status in life it's about your soul.Its about who you are not who your above." Nobody is disputing that education or background makes a difference to whether someone is a nice person. What is being disputed is whether the use of that word on a profile makes someone not so nice. Mrs | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. " totally agreed !I heard people that are anything online. Personally I don't mix my working life and here. People will not care with that , they want me ! Unless someone wish to put them selfs in certain risks ! I keep low profile. X | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality. The people we have met through Fab who use that word on their profile are all very nice people and certainly don’t have overinflated egos. And we've met a huge variety of very nice people from all walks of life via Fab. Mrs No matter what you are or what you do or what you have or your education or your background. You can still be a nice person. Personality isn't about your status in life it's about your soul.Its about who you are not who your above. Nobody is disputing that education or background makes a difference to whether someone is a nice person. What is being disputed is whether the use of that word on a profile makes someone not so nice. Mrs" Vulgar in it's context is advertising your a class above the rest.I have a nice house and car and my own business but would I say that describes who I am? No as it's vulgar and trying to describe yourself as a level above other people. Is there any need to say we're professional? What is the purpose behind that? Does it scream that you must look up to us or we look down on you or is it just they won't meet those that they view lower than them? If it's because they mentally can only engage with other pompous people then surely there rules of engagement are lacking as personal perception of others is a quality we all possess.you don't have to be professional to be a good person. | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality. The people we have met through Fab who use that word on their profile are all very nice people and certainly don’t have overinflated egos. And we've met a huge variety of very nice people from all walks of life via Fab. Mrs No matter what you are or what you do or what you have or your education or your background. You can still be a nice person. Personality isn't about your status in life it's about your soul.Its about who you are not who your above. Nobody is disputing that education or background makes a difference to whether someone is a nice person. What is being disputed is whether the use of that word on a profile makes someone not so nice. Mrs Vulgar in it's context is advertising your a class above the rest.I have a nice house and car and my own business but would I say that describes who I am? No as it's vulgar and trying to describe yourself as a level above other people. Is there any need to say we're professional? What is the purpose behind that? Does it scream that you must look up to us or we look down on you or is it just they won't meet those that they view lower than them? If it's because they mentally can only engage with other pompous people then surely there rules of engagement are lacking as personal perception of others is a quality we all possess.you don't have to be professional to be a good person." Christ, why don't you just leave them alone who ever they are and might I suggest people in glasshouses.......  | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them. So you really think that a professional person couldn't gauge the calibre of a person without screaming to the world that they are professional? There goes the entire interview system. In my 15 years in business I encounter a lot of very successful people and you get to know the pretenders from the genuine article. You have those that need to tell you what they are and shout about it to validate there own delusions and boost there own self built ego.Those are the ones that live of there plastic friend and have to have the best car in there street on hp. Then you have the true successful ones that don't need to shove it in people's faces because they need no ego boost to validate there achievements. Putting the word professional in your profile is just vulgar and a sign of a over inflated ego and screams self doubts if you have to advertise the fact your professional.Im sure if your that professional and only want to interact with other people of your own pompous delusions then you will use your professional judgment to gauge there personality. The people we have met through Fab who use that word on their profile are all very nice people and certainly don’t have overinflated egos. And we've met a huge variety of very nice people from all walks of life via Fab. Mrs No matter what you are or what you do or what you have or your education or your background. You can still be a nice person. Personality isn't about your status in life it's about your soul.Its about who you are not who your above. Nobody is disputing that education or background makes a difference to whether someone is a nice person. What is being disputed is whether the use of that word on a profile makes someone not so nice. Mrs Vulgar in it's context is advertising your a class above the rest.I have a nice house and car and my own business but would I say that describes who I am? No as it's vulgar and trying to describe yourself as a level above other people. Is there any need to say we're professional? What is the purpose behind that? Does it scream that you must look up to us or we look down on you or is it just they won't meet those that they view lower than them? If it's because they mentally can only engage with other pompous people then surely there rules of engagement are lacking as personal perception of others is a quality we all possess.you don't have to be professional to be a good person." Well yes it would be vulgar if that word were used in order to put themselves on a level above others. And maybe some people do that. However my experience of people who have used that word in their profile, I have not found them to be pompous or unable to engage with people from a variety of walks of life. Mrs | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them." Totally agree. And if you think they are stuck up their own arses then just pass them by don't see the need to be rude and insulting. | |||
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"What I’m seeing is that self-proclaimed professionals are going about their time on Fab minding their own business, not hurting anyone. And yet every time one of these threads comes up they have to take a torrent of somewhat unpleasant and arguably nasty comments and accusations from complete strangers. Mrs" Hear, hear. | |||
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"It does seem that those who dare to describe themselves as professional are potentially subjecting themselves to a hell of a lot of abuse on these frequently posted ‘professional’ threads. ‘Up their own arse’ is an expression I’ve seen numerous times in threads like these, amongst other equally unpleasant comments. Are these criticisms really justified? Mrs" No. Totally not. But some people just can't help themselves. The forums often tell you a lot more about people than their profiles. | |||
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"What I’m seeing is that self-proclaimed professionals are going about their time on Fab minding their own business, not hurting anyone. And yet every time one of these threads comes up they have to take a torrent of somewhat unpleasant and arguably nasty comments and accusations from complete strangers. Mrs" 100% agree with this | |||
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"The reaction to the word used on profiles, so obviously by non-professionals, makes me want to interact purely with professionals . There appears to be either jealousy or insecurities highlighted here."I totally agree with you there. I live in London and most people who work in central London are usually ‘city professionals’ that’s just how people are described. I just don’t see what is wrong with that. I know exactly what they mean when they introduce themselves as that and I don’t see it as being stuck up. | |||
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"The reaction to the word used on profiles, so obviously by non-professionals, makes me want to interact purely with professionals . There appears to be either jealousy or insecurities highlighted here.
I totally agree with you there. I live in London and most people who work in central London are usually ‘city professionals’ that’s just how people are described. I just don’t see what is wrong with that. I know exactly what they mean when they introduce themselves as that and I don’t see it as being stuck up. "It's ironic that many self-named "professionals" won't be in professions. They aspire to be named so as "professionals" (should) command respect. I'm betting the real professionals don't put it out there because of their code of conduct. | |||
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"What I’m seeing is that self-proclaimed professionals are going about their time on Fab minding their own business, not hurting anyone. And yet every time one of these threads comes up they have to take a torrent of somewhat unpleasant and arguably nasty comments and accusations from complete strangers. Mrs" Exactly this. People going a bit OTT now. Maybe someone should start a thread on religion, they are usually good fun too. | |||
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"What I’m seeing is that self-proclaimed professionals are going about their time on Fab minding their own business, not hurting anyone. And yet every time one of these threads comes up they have to take a torrent of somewhat unpleasant and arguably nasty comments and accusations from complete strangers. Mrs" Its reverse snobbery at its best to keep the chavs happy. Just another filter really. | |||
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"I'm totally adding professional with my next profile re write. And I might even call myself attractive to piss a few more off.... " Don't forget to add funny, happy, and a totally awesome shag. | |||
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" If it's because they mentally can only engage with other pompous people then surely there rules of engagement are lacking as personal perception of others is a quality we all possess.you don't have to be professional to be a good person." Personally, I'd rather meet people who describe themselves as professional than people who are openly a touch xenophobic in their profile. You see, it's that education thing. It's been proven time and time again that higher educated people are more likely to be open minded on issues like race, gender, sexuality... | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... " If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs" That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. " It's really interesting though, isn't it? I come from an upper working class background but have a reasonably smart London/Home Counties accent. My partner also comes from an upper working class background but has an incredibly posh Home Counties accent. We're also living in a time where social mobility is something that happens much more easily. It doesn't take three or more generations to move into the next band of social status - in fact lower/middle/upper class bands don't really exist anymore. There's a good BBC article from a few years ago (search "The Great British class calculator") breaking it down into about 15 or 18 different category. For instance I am 'technical middle class' because of my personal interests in culture/art/etc and my friendship group mostly comprising scientists and engineers. But to be honest, it's not the wealth that allows me to have those hobbies - it's the fact that 150 years ago the groundwork was laid by our government for me to access cultural activities for very little money. It costs nothing to go to an art gallery, you can even see classical music recitals for a few pounds. Accents are deceiving, and some things are better indicators of current lifestyle than wealth or accent. Hence why educational status and profession can be a good indicator. | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. " I’m suspecting that people from a ‘posh’ background often have to keep their gobs shut about their upbringing due to predudice from the outside world. A fear maybe that they will be accused of being ‘up their own arses’. I’ve noticed on threads like these that many are comfortable to admit that they are professional, but will quickly add that they didn’t come from that background. That makes it ok I guess. Mrs | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. It's really interesting though, isn't it? I come from an upper working class background but have a reasonably smart London/Home Counties accent. My partner also comes from an upper working class background but has an incredibly posh Home Counties accent. We're also living in a time where social mobility is something that happens much more easily. It doesn't take three or more generations to move into the next band of social status - in fact lower/middle/upper class bands don't really exist anymore. There's a good BBC article from a few years ago (search "The Great British class calculator") breaking it down into about 15 or 18 different category. For instance I am 'technical middle class' because of my personal interests in culture/art/etc and my friendship group mostly comprising scientists and engineers. But to be honest, it's not the wealth that allows me to have those hobbies - it's the fact that 150 years ago the groundwork was laid by our government for me to access cultural activities for very little money. It costs nothing to go to an art gallery, you can even see classical music recitals for a few pounds. Accents are deceiving, and some things are better indicators of current lifestyle than wealth or accent. Hence why educational status and profession can be a good indicator." There's a bit of inverted snobbery and regional pride going on with my accent. I am a lawyer who grew up on a Sheffield council estate but who has lived in the south for about thirty years. I have a northern accent and have taken pains to maintain it as I am buggered if I am going to disguise who I am to fit in with a bunch of posh lawyers. On the other hand my accent is nowhere near as strong as my parents, so there has been some moderation going on. Katie is from London and has an accent that does glottal stops and "free" for "three", she's a hospital consultant and knocks around with some incredibly posh people. Again she doesn't give a shit. Like you I have a great belief in state provided cultural goodies. I am very aware that I would not have got to be a lawyer were it not for free state education, local council libraries and a decent home provided by the local council. Historically working class people had none of those things. | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. I’m suspecting that people from a ‘posh’ background often have to keep their gobs shut about their upbringing due to predudice from the outside world. A fear maybe that they will be accused of being ‘up their own arses’. I’ve noticed on threads like these that many are comfortable to admit that they are professional, but will quickly add that they didn’t come from that background. That makes it ok I guess. Mrs" Isn't it more that if you come from a posh background you are privileged whereas if you don't you aren't? | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. I’m suspecting that people from a ‘posh’ background often have to keep their gobs shut about their upbringing due to predudice from the outside world. A fear maybe that they will be accused of being ‘up their own arses’. I’ve noticed on threads like these that many are comfortable to admit that they are professional, but will quickly add that they didn’t come from that background. That makes it ok I guess. Mrs Isn't it more that if you come from a posh background you are privileged whereas if you don't you aren't? " Not necessarily. There are a lot of high earners who haven’t always been so privileged. Then there might be people from wealthy backgrounds who decide to take up a career in something like teaching or nursing, both of which command extremely average salaries. | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. It's really interesting though, isn't it? I come from an upper working class background but have a reasonably smart London/Home Counties accent. My partner also comes from an upper working class background but has an incredibly posh Home Counties accent. We're also living in a time where social mobility is something that happens much more easily. It doesn't take three or more generations to move into the next band of social status - in fact lower/middle/upper class bands don't really exist anymore. There's a good BBC article from a few years ago (search "The Great British class calculator") breaking it down into about 15 or 18 different category. For instance I am 'technical middle class' because of my personal interests in culture/art/etc and my friendship group mostly comprising scientists and engineers. But to be honest, it's not the wealth that allows me to have those hobbies - it's the fact that 150 years ago the groundwork was laid by our government for me to access cultural activities for very little money. It costs nothing to go to an art gallery, you can even see classical music recitals for a few pounds. Accents are deceiving, and some things are better indicators of current lifestyle than wealth or accent. Hence why educational status and profession can be a good indicator. There's a bit of inverted snobbery and regional pride going on with my accent. I am a lawyer who grew up on a Sheffield council estate but who has lived in the south for about thirty years. I have a northern accent and have taken pains to maintain it as I am buggered if I am going to disguise who I am to fit in with a bunch of posh lawyers. On the other hand my accent is nowhere near as strong as my parents, so there has been some moderation going on. Katie is from London and has an accent that does glottal stops and "free" for "three", she's a hospital consultant and knocks around with some incredibly posh people. Again she doesn't give a shit. Like you I have a great belief in state provided cultural goodies. I am very aware that I would not have got to be a lawyer were it not for free state education, local council libraries and a decent home provided by the local council. Historically working class people had none of those things. " Probably most people from priveledged backgrounds can trace back in their family history to a time when someone made the conversion from working class poverty to middle class. There will be a few who are from a long standing aristocratic background, who nowadays will have jobs like everybody else. And there will be a few that have descender from a whole line of teachers, ministers, doctors, nurses and business owners. But the working classes used to be bigger and middle classes used to be smaller. I’m third generation middle class, my husband is second generation middle class. We both have grandparents from extremely poor mining backgrounds. I do have a posh accent I’m afraid. I used to dislike people taking the piss out of the way I speak. Doesn’t worry me so much now, but I don’t like reverse snobbery - it’s not like I’ve ever looked down on anyone. Mrs | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. It's really interesting though, isn't it? I come from an upper working class background but have a reasonably smart London/Home Counties accent. My partner also comes from an upper working class background but has an incredibly posh Home Counties accent. We're also living in a time where social mobility is something that happens much more easily. It doesn't take three or more generations to move into the next band of social status - in fact lower/middle/upper class bands don't really exist anymore. There's a good BBC article from a few years ago (search "The Great British class calculator") breaking it down into about 15 or 18 different category. For instance I am 'technical middle class' because of my personal interests in culture/art/etc and my friendship group mostly comprising scientists and engineers. But to be honest, it's not the wealth that allows me to have those hobbies - it's the fact that 150 years ago the groundwork was laid by our government for me to access cultural activities for very little money. It costs nothing to go to an art gallery, you can even see classical music recitals for a few pounds. Accents are deceiving, and some things are better indicators of current lifestyle than wealth or accent. Hence why educational status and profession can be a good indicator. There's a bit of inverted snobbery and regional pride going on with my accent. I am a lawyer who grew up on a Sheffield council estate but who has lived in the south for about thirty years. I have a northern accent and have taken pains to maintain it as I am buggered if I am going to disguise who I am to fit in with a bunch of posh lawyers. On the other hand my accent is nowhere near as strong as my parents, so there has been some moderation going on. Katie is from London and has an accent that does glottal stops and "free" for "three", she's a hospital consultant and knocks around with some incredibly posh people. Again she doesn't give a shit. Like you I have a great belief in state provided cultural goodies. I am very aware that I would not have got to be a lawyer were it not for free state education, local council libraries and a decent home provided by the local council. Historically working class people had none of those things. Probably most people from priveledged backgrounds can trace back in their family history to a time when someone made the conversion from working class poverty to middle class. There will be a few who are from a long standing aristocratic background, who nowadays will have jobs like everybody else. And there will be a few that have descender from a whole line of teachers, ministers, doctors, nurses and business owners. But the working classes used to be bigger and middle classes used to be smaller. I’m third generation middle class, my husband is second generation middle class. We both have grandparents from extremely poor mining backgrounds. I do have a posh accent I’m afraid. I used to dislike people taking the piss out of the way I speak. Doesn’t worry me so much now, but I don’t like reverse snobbery - it’s not like I’ve ever looked down on anyone. Mrs" When you are first generation middle class like me (parents had manual jobs, left school at fifteen, I grew up on a council estate, went to bog standard comprehensive etc etc), there's a degree of pride in that and feeling that it was much harder for you to get to where you were than people with professional parents. But then, no one chooses their background, so no one is really to blame for it. What gets me with people from privileged background is a failure to recognize their privilege and the advantages that having established Middle class parents conveys. My children are certainly privileged in that respect. Their working class sheffield grandparents aren't really relevant. | |||
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"We call ourselves a professional couple as we are. - lawyer and doctor. However, we both come from working class backgrounds, have far from posh accents and aren't particularly money oriented. We find that we don't get on with either what my mum used to call "rough" people or with very wealthy money obsessed people. No wonder we don't get many meets... If you both had come from a relatively affluent background and happened to talk with a ‘posh’ accent, and happened to have a taste for expensive things, would you admit that on the forum as freely as you have a acknowledged your working class background? Mrs That's a question that's impossible to answer. Our current sensibilities are a product of our background and our attitude to "posh" people derives from that background. If we had grown up posh our attitude to posh people would no doubt be different. The bottom line for us is that we like to interact with people who have interests other than themselves and what they get up to. It's really interesting though, isn't it? I come from an upper working class background but have a reasonably smart London/Home Counties accent. My partner also comes from an upper working class background but has an incredibly posh Home Counties accent. We're also living in a time where social mobility is something that happens much more easily. It doesn't take three or more generations to move into the next band of social status - in fact lower/middle/upper class bands don't really exist anymore. There's a good BBC article from a few years ago (search "The Great British class calculator") breaking it down into about 15 or 18 different category. For instance I am 'technical middle class' because of my personal interests in culture/art/etc and my friendship group mostly comprising scientists and engineers. But to be honest, it's not the wealth that allows me to have those hobbies - it's the fact that 150 years ago the groundwork was laid by our government for me to access cultural activities for very little money. It costs nothing to go to an art gallery, you can even see classical music recitals for a few pounds. Accents are deceiving, and some things are better indicators of current lifestyle than wealth or accent. Hence why educational status and profession can be a good indicator." Since when has there been a divide in working class? | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class? "Since it became much easier to move between the social classes. upper-lower class lower-middle class upper-middle class etc All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types. No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes. | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes."It must be a millenium term  . | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes.
It must be a millenium term ."To add: I find it strange that i haven't come across it in 17 years though. | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes.
It must be a millenium term ."I assure you, the terms have been used in sociological and historical work since before any millenials were born. | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes."There's always been a division between the rough and respectable working class. The former being the people who like getting pissed, engaging in racist riots and reading Shit. The latter being those who believe in self education and who formed the labour party and the trade union movement. It goes back to at least Marx and his concept of the lumpen proletariat. | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes.
It must be a millenium term .
To add: I find it strange that i haven't come across it in 17 years though."The division between skilled and unskilled working class or rough and respectable workibg class is at least 200 years old | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes.
It must be a millenium term .
I assure you, the terms have been used in sociological and historical work since before any millenials were born."I haven’t studied history in any meaningful way, so the first time I came across the term ‘neovoea riche’ was in the film ‘Titanic’. Don’t know how histrionically accurate the film was, but if it is accurate I’m guessing the the expression was certainly in use early 1900s. I think it was also used in Downtown Abbey, set in the same period, in certain story lines where the old aristocratically were mixing with people of self made wealth. Mrs | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes.
It must be a millenium term .
I assure you, the terms have been used in sociological and historical work since before any millenials were born."Sadly i believe i gave away the recommended book for my sociology evening classes (1999), otherwise I'd quote what i was taught. | |||
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" Since when has there been a divide in working class?
Since it became much easier to move between the social classes.
upper-lower class
lower-middle class
upper-middle class
etc
All common terms used to describe people who have transitioned or are transitioning into different class types.
No different to something like 'nouveau riche' which means 'newly rich' and lacking the cultural education that would traditionally be found in the upper classes.
It must be a millenium term .
I assure you, the terms have been used in sociological and historical work since before any millenials were born.
I haven’t studied history in any meaningful way, so the first time I came across the term ‘neovoea riche’ was in the film ‘Titanic’. Don’t know how histrionically accurate the film was, but if it is accurate I’m guessing the the expression was certainly in use early 1900s. I think it was also used in Downtown Abbey, set in the same period, in certain story lines where the old aristocratically were mixing with people of self made wealth.
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point." guess what even bin men can hold intelligent conversation you know!!!!!! and no neither of us are bin men !!!!! | |||
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" What job a person does doesn't reflect their attitude or behaviour in swinging. I've had high earning couples turn up with disgusting hygiene and bar workers arrive immaculately and respectfully. But it might impact on the conversations you have before and after sex. Which is pretty much the point. guess what even bin men can hold intelligent conversation you know!!!!!! and no neither of us are bin men !!!!! "Yes, and I didn't say that they couldn't. | |||
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"I think for most (I maybe wrong!) it simply means no Chavs. I know the word Chav originated from certain unemployed council estate people but in this case, I believe posters are saying no chav characteristic people. In our case this is regardless of wealth, property ownership and race etc! If you are a bit you know chavvy (is the word acceptable?) then we wouldn’t meet you. In short that’s what I believe people mean by professinals only. Maybe others believe those who are on welfare benefits maybe less desirable? Interesting debate as social class is still there for many whether we admit it or not!" Ten ten old chap . | |||
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"Professional couple I.e full of there own self importance and like others to think there above everyone else Spot on Agreed, if a couple feels the need to put ‘professional’ on a fabswingers profile, it probably means they are either stuck up their own arses or insecure about their own achievements. Either way, it hardly reads like a selling point. Or they use it as a filter to attract the kind of people that they want to meet. In that respect I'd suggest it works excellently because people who don't like that kind of wording won't message them." Exactly! | |||
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"I like what this discussion has brought out, just by people putting professional on their profile look at how it makes some people who are not professional feel, you can see that discrimination of any kind is not a good thing. I treat everybody I meet with respect and I make them feel special when they are around me ,I make sure I give the ladies an amazing time too ,even if I am not interested in what the ladies are offering I would still treat them nicely, this is what swinging is about, I hope the ladies remember this when guys show interest in them." How is it discrimination? They just have a type of person that they want to meet- unless someone will literally fuck every human that asks, everyone will have some people they don't want to meet. I agree on your last point- I think respect is important. | |||
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"I like what this discussion has brought out, just by people putting professional on their profile look at how it makes some people who are not professional feel, you can see that discrimination of any kind is not a good thing. I treat everybody I meet with respect and I make them feel special when they are around me ,I make sure I give the ladies an amazing time too ,even if I am not interested in what the ladies are offering I would still treat them nicely, this is what swinging is about, I hope the ladies remember this when guys show interest in them." But it’s not discriminatory to describe oneself as professional. It’s only arguably discriminatory to refuse to consider people who are not professional. But no more discriminatory than every other preference that many insist on. If people were to start saying ‘professionals only’ (which I have never seen on a profile), it would be no different than people saying ‘black only’, ‘white only’, ‘size 12 and under only’, no bisexuals’, ‘bisexuals only’, ‘no short men’ etc etc. I’m personally not a fan of being so rigid about preferences, but I think there had been a little bit of hypocrisy on this thread. Besides I don’t think anybody has said on this thread that a non-professional is automatically out of the question. If anything the only people being discriminated against in this thread are those who dare to describe themselves by this word. Mrs | |||
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"The people who put professional on their profile are just going about their normal business, it's just advertising to me, some people who are not professional feel discriminated against that is why they are upset about it, natural feeling . Now what am saying is people should watch how they treat others, especially the ladies, don't mistreat people based on your presumption of their current status because this world is round and is spinning and people always have a change in status. They will most certainly remember your actions towards them in their previous status. Now I know some ladies will try to tie this to sleeping with everyone , am not saying that at all, I turn down ladies and couples all the time but I don't wash them down like most ladies on here do ." Your posts are utterly nonsensical. You seem to be conflating professional with women and both of them with treating people badly, or something. | |||
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"I like what this discussion has brought out, just by people putting professional on their profile look at how it makes some people who are not professional feel, you can see that discrimination of any kind is not a good thing. I treat everybody I meet with respect and I make them feel special when they are around me ,I make sure I give the ladies an amazing time too ,even if I am not interested in what the ladies are offering I would still treat them nicely, this is what swinging is about, I hope the ladies remember this when guys show interest in them. But it’s not discriminatory to describe oneself as professional. It’s only arguably discriminatory to refuse to consider people who are not professional. But no more discriminatory than every other preference that many insist on. If people were to start saying ‘professionals only’ (which I have never seen on a profile), it would be no different than people saying ‘black only’, ‘white only’, ‘size 12 and under only’, no bisexuals’, ‘bisexuals only’, ‘no short men’ etc etc. I’m personally not a fan of being so rigid about preferences, but I think there had been a little bit of hypocrisy on this thread. Besides I don’t think anybody has said on this thread that a non-professional is automatically out of the question. ** If anything the only people being discriminated against in this thread are those who dare to describe themselves by this word. Mrs" ** | |||
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"The people who put professional on their profile are just going about their normal business, it's just advertising to me, some people who are not professional feel discriminated against that is why they are upset about it, natural feeling . Now what am saying is people should watch how they treat others, especially the ladies, don't mistreat people based on your presumption of their current status because this world is round and is spinning and people always have a change in status. They will most certainly remember your actions towards them in their previous status. Now I know some ladies will try to tie this to sleeping with everyone , am not saying that at all, I turn down ladies and couples all the time but I don't wash them down like most ladies on here do . Your posts are utterly nonsensical. You seem to be conflating professional with women and both of them with treating people badly, or something." There's a bit of washing going on in there too No one quite knows why | |||
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"Wow there are pretty strong opinions here! How can one word cause such outrage! I never realised how judgemental people were! And quite frankly I’m glad “I’d be blocked instantly” by you... I use the word professional due to the fact i am a professional and still want to attract like minded people for intelligent conversations! Therefor if you can’t appreciate that a professional person has a certain way in which they should conduct themselves in public and online (NMC Code Of conduct for example for nurses and midwives) then your pretty much not worth meeting anyway lol! But anyway I’m “stuck up my own arse” what would I know! Il go wash my Ferrari now.. Oh wait..
Mrs L"I think you've touched on both sides of the argument there. Being a professional is something to be proud of, as are many non-professional occupations. But saying people who aren't a professional can't conduct themselves in public in the same way as a professional, or have an intellectual conversation is nonesense. I am a degree qualified professional myself, but can appreciate there are dull people, incapable of decent behaviour or conversation regardless of their occupation. | |||
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"You see the way the beautiful lady tried to wash me down for no apparent reason, remember when I said you can gauge psychological damage by having a conversation with people and they will let you know where they are coming from in minutes. This is what I mean, this is a clear symptom of pyschological damage from years of profound brainwashing, so my reaction is always to ignore because I understand she is a victim of the agenda of greedy men who are actively looking for resources." I think the reason was she disagreed with what you said. It's no more complex than that. | |||
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"Wow there are pretty strong opinions here! How can one word cause such outrage! I never realised how judgemental people were! And quite frankly I’m glad “I’d be blocked instantly” by you... I use the word professional due to the fact i am a professional and still want to attract like minded people for intelligent conversations! Therefor if you can’t appreciate that a professional person has a certain way in which they should conduct themselves in public and online (NMC Code Of conduct for example for nurses and midwives) then your pretty much not worth meeting anyway lol! But anyway I’m “stuck up my own arse” what would I know! Il go wash my Ferrari now.. Oh wait..
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I think you've touched on both sides of the argument there. Being a professional is something to be proud of, as are many non-professional occupations.
But saying people who aren't a professional can't conduct themselves in public in the same way as a professional, or have an intellectual conversation is nonesense.
I am a degree qualified professional myself, but can appreciate there are dull people, incapable of decent behaviour or conversation regardless of their occupation."Noooo that’s not what I mean. Of course non professionals can conduct themselves! I probally didn’t word myself well.. lol. What I mean is if a person cannot appreciate how I conduct myself (ie the things I write and the way I act) then there not worth meeting anyway. For example being called stuck up and self absorbed for including one word in my profile is absurd! If someone is going to judge someone by including a single word in a sentence that says a lot about them.. | |||
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"You see the way the beautiful lady tried to wash me down for no apparent reason, remember when I said you can gauge psychological damage by having a conversation with people and they will let you know where they are coming from in minutes. This is what I mean, this is a clear symptom of pyschological damage from years of profound brainwashing, so my reaction is always to ignore because I understand she is a victim of the agenda of greedy men who are actively looking for resources." If thats aimed at me James, I think you will find that there is at least one other comment on this thread stating that your posts are difficult to understand If you post stuff in the forums, that people disagree with or dont understand, you ought to be able to qualify You dont You just say " I think it, therefore it is" Sometimes your posts dont make sense Sorry, but they dont | |||
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"Wow there are pretty strong opinions here! How can one word cause such outrage! I never realised how judgemental people were! And quite frankly I’m glad “I’d be blocked instantly” by you... I use the word professional due to the fact i am a professional and still want to attract like minded people for intelligent conversations! Therefor if you can’t appreciate that a professional person has a certain way in which they should conduct themselves in public and online (NMC Code Of conduct for example for nurses and midwives) then your pretty much not worth meeting anyway lol! But anyway I’m “stuck up my own arse” what would I know! Il go wash my Ferrari now.. Oh wait..
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I think you've touched on both sides of the argument there. Being a professional is something to be proud of, as are many non-professional occupations.
But saying people who aren't a professional can't conduct themselves in public in the same way as a professional, or have an intellectual conversation is nonesense.
I am a degree qualified professional myself, but can appreciate there are dull people, incapable of decent behaviour or conversation regardless of their occupation.
Noooo that’s not what I mean. Of course non professionals can conduct themselves! I probally didn’t word myself well.. lol. What I mean is if a person cannot appreciate how I conduct myself (ie the things I write and the way I act) then there not worth meeting anyway. For example being called stuck up and self absorbed for including one word in my profile is absurd! If someone is going to judge someone by including a single word in a sentence that says a lot about them.."I agree, making an assumption about being stuck up is an assumption and as bad the convrse assumption. We wouldn't discount someone because of it. BUT some people who use the phrase are doing so because of the reasons touched on. They believe they conduct themselves better, have better holidays and experience, can converse better etc Sometimes true, often not. | |||
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"Fair comment but it is critical to note that anytime you put up walls to explain social distinction , the people not in that social group actively or passively feel discriminated against as you can see from the reactions on the thread, this is the reason I removed professional from my profile. This is leisure to most of us, training shows us there is more than one route to a market place if it is just about filtering the type of people you want. "Indeed. And that is the reason I removed the word ‘exceptional’ from our profile, because I learnt from the forums of the degree of offence that word seemed to cause. I think comments about up arses are also applied in the forums to those profiles who state they are looking for exceptional people. So no, with the knowledge of how offensive the word ‘professional’ can be, I wouldn’t dream of using it in our profile. But then I wouldn’t dream of describing complete strangers of being ‘up their arses’. Surely that’s a tad more offensive than the word ‘professional’? Mrs | |||
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"Sweetheart the post was not aimed at you but you agree that if someone does not understand something ,the appropriate thing is to ask for explanation" Nobody knows who you are calling sweetheart because you aren't quoting the post you are replying to. | |||
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"Wow there are pretty strong opinions here! How can one word cause such outrage! I never realised how judgemental people were! And quite frankly I’m glad “I’d be blocked instantly” by you... I use the word professional due to the fact i am a professional and still want to attract like minded people for intelligent conversations! Therefor if you can’t appreciate that a professional person has a certain way in which they should conduct themselves in public and online (NMC Code Of conduct for example for nurses and midwives) then your pretty much not worth meeting anyway lol! But anyway I’m “stuck up my own arse” what would I know! Il go wash my Ferrari now.. Oh wait..
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I think you've touched on both sides of the argument there. Being a professional is something to be proud of, as are many non-professional occupations.
But saying people who aren't a professional can't conduct themselves in public in the same way as a professional, or have an intellectual conversation is nonesense.
I am a degree qualified professional myself, but can appreciate there are dull people, incapable of decent behaviour or conversation regardless of their occupation.
Noooo that’s not what I mean. Of course non professionals can conduct themselves! I probally didn’t word myself well.. lol. What I mean is if a person cannot appreciate how I conduct myself (ie the things I write and the way I act) then there not worth meeting anyway. For example being called stuck up and self absorbed for including one word in my profile is absurd! If someone is going to judge someone by including a single word in a sentence that says a lot about them..
I agree, making an assumption about being stuck up is an assumption and as bad the convrse assumption.
We wouldn't discount someone because of it.
BUT some people who use the phrase are doing so because of the reasons touched on. They believe they conduct themselves better, have better holidays and experience, can converse better etc
Sometimes true, often not."100%. And to be honest I’d never given the word any thought at all until today! | |||
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"Yeah I agree and of course I know how to use the reply plus quote button but I have found out that people get the message clearly when you use subliminal messages and that's why I use them lol" Or you prefer the passive aggressive approach and you aren't brave to engage in a debate with an individual | |||
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"What is a professional couple ? Forgive my ignorance but if a professional lady is someone I can pay. is a professional couple the same ? Or is it wishful thinking " It’s a financial arrangement. Their marriage is so shit but they can’t afford to divorce so they swing to ease the pain. | |||
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"Wow there are pretty strong opinions here! How can one word cause such outrage! I never realised how judgemental people were! And quite frankly I’m glad “I’d be blocked instantly” by you... I use the word professional due to the fact i am a professional and still want to attract like minded people for intelligent conversations! Therefor if you can’t appreciate that a professional person has a certain way in which they should conduct themselves in public and online (NMC Code Of conduct for example for nurses and midwives) then your pretty much not worth meeting anyway lol! But anyway I’m “stuck up my own arse” what would I know! Il go wash my Ferrari now.. Oh wait..
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I think you've touched on both sides of the argument there. Being a professional is something to be proud of, as are many non-professional occupations.
But saying people who aren't a professional can't conduct themselves in public in the same way as a professional, or have an intellectual conversation is nonesense.
I am a degree qualified professional myself, but can appreciate there are dull people, incapable of decent behaviour or conversation regardless of their occupation.
Noooo that’s not what I mean. Of course non professionals can conduct themselves! I probally didn’t word myself well.. lol. What I mean is if a person cannot appreciate how I conduct myself (ie the things I write and the way I act) then there not worth meeting anyway. For example being called stuck up and self absorbed for including one word in my profile is absurd! If someone is going to judge someone by including a single word in a sentence that says a lot about them..
I agree, making an assumption about being stuck up is an assumption and as bad the convrse assumption.
We wouldn't discount someone because of it.
BUT some people who use the phrase are doing so because of the reasons touched on. They believe they conduct themselves better, have better holidays and experience, can converse better etc
Sometimes true, often not."Re conduct, some professionals HAVE to conduct themselves in public, inc online, in a manner as not to bring their profession into disrepute, or risk losing their profession. This doesn't mean others don't conduct themselves in a similar, self imposed vein. | |||
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"Lol there is nothing passive or aggressive in my posts , it's nothing about being brave either. I enjoy the forums, nothing personal to me. I will give it you , you have an amazing ass, am not sure if it's the ass or the way you packaged it. I know I showed interest and you rejected me based on principles but that's ok, there are plenty fishes in the sea, no big deal lol" I didn't realise we'd communicated previously. Doesn't reflect on opinions expressed on the forum. | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x " Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile! | |||
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"Wow there are pretty strong opinions here! How can one word cause such outrage! I never realised how judgemental people were! And quite frankly I’m glad “I’d be blocked instantly” by you... I use the word professional due to the fact i am a professional and still want to attract like minded people for intelligent conversations! Therefor if you can’t appreciate that a professional person has a certain way in which they should conduct themselves in public and online (NMC Code Of conduct for example for nurses and midwives) then your pretty much not worth meeting anyway lol! But anyway I’m “stuck up my own arse” what would I know! Il go wash my Ferrari now.. Oh wait..
Mrs L
I think you've touched on both sides of the argument there. Being a professional is something to be proud of, as are many non-professional occupations.
But saying people who aren't a professional can't conduct themselves in public in the same way as a professional, or have an intellectual conversation is nonesense.
I am a degree qualified professional myself, but can appreciate there are dull people, incapable of decent behaviour or conversation regardless of their occupation.
Noooo that’s not what I mean. Of course non professionals can conduct themselves! I probally didn’t word myself well.. lol. What I mean is if a person cannot appreciate how I conduct myself (ie the things I write and the way I act) then there not worth meeting anyway. For example being called stuck up and self absorbed for including one word in my profile is absurd! If someone is going to judge someone by including a single word in a sentence that says a lot about them..
I agree, making an assumption about being stuck up is an assumption and as bad the convrse assumption.
We wouldn't discount someone because of it.
BUT some people who use the phrase are doing so because of the reasons touched on. They believe they conduct themselves better, have better holidays and experience, can converse better etc
Sometimes true, often not.
Re conduct, some professionals HAVE to conduct themselves in public, inc online, in a manner as not to bring their profession into disrepute, or risk losing their profession. This doesn't mean others don't conduct themselves in a similar, self imposed vein."I always expect everyone to behave in a respectful and discreet manner whether a code of conduct dictates it or not, whether they're a surgeon or they work at McDonald's. | |||
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" We use ‘Professional’ on our profile, we use it because it hints at reasons why we can’t/won’t show face pics. Some or most ‘Professional’ contracts of employment clearly state that your conduct outside of the workplace can be used in disciplinary cases if it is considered their actions bring their profession into disrepute, for example policemen, teachers etc – Being on a swingers site would constitute bringing your profession into disrepute. We really are shocked at the response to the word ‘Professional’, but if it does work as a filter (something we hadn't considered) to stop some of the people on here who think it is a class thing or they think we have our heads stuck up our own arses then great, we seriously wouldn’t want to meet anyone who has judged us because of our ‘Profession’ even though they are ignorant as to what that profession is – so for us its a win-win "Totally agree with your post. | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile!" It's on ours and it's staying on. More than happy if it has put off the posters who have expressed such strong and often abusive views. | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile!" Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol But you must start every message with how fantastic your job life and car is and that you won't talk to comneners.oh and your only looking for other important people and you must hide your face because your locally famous and have more to lose than anyone else hahahahahaha x | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile! Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol But you must start every message with how fantastic your job life and car is and that you won't talk to comneners.oh and your only looking for other important people and you must hide your face because your locally famous and have more to lose than anyone else hahahahahaha x " Your view of professionals (i know) is so wrong. Some have even gone to food banks. | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile! Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol But you must start every message with how fantastic your job life and car is and that you won't talk to comneners.oh and your only looking for other important people and you must hide your face because your locally famous and have more to lose than anyone else hahahahahaha x " "Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol" It will make a lot of difference. It will prevent you and people who think like you from making contact. It is a good filter. So its a win-win for her. | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile! Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol But you must start every message with how fantastic your job life and car is and that you won't talk to comneners.oh and your only looking for other important people and you must hide your face because your locally famous and have more to lose than anyone else hahahahahaha x "Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol" It will make a lot of difference. It will prevent you and people who think like you from making contact. It is a good filter. So its a win-win for her." | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile! Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol But you must start every message with how fantastic your job life and car is and that you won't talk to comneners.oh and your only looking for other important people and you must hide your face because your locally famous and have more to lose than anyone else hahahahahaha x "Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol" It will make a lot of difference. It will prevent you and people who think like you from making contact. It is a good filter. So its a win-win for her." Spot on. | |||
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"The moment I see the word professional on a profile I automatically think egotistical people. The job I do could be classed as professional but no way would I put that word to describe who I am.its so cringe worthy x Oh I'm so damn tempted to put professional on my profile! Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol But you must start every message with how fantastic your job life and car is and that you won't talk to comneners.oh and your only looking for other important people and you must hide your face because your locally famous and have more to lose than anyone else hahahahahaha x "Do it lol that would make no difference to me at all lol" It will make a lot of difference. It will prevent you and people who think like you from making contact. It is a good filter. So its a win-win for her." Spot on. Empty posts finished the errmmm debate | |||
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