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is it ok for dads to take daughter into the ladies loo
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over a year ago
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nope, always took them into the gents or disabled loo when they were toddlers.
stood outside ladies once they were strong enough to open the door themselves. |
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I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men  |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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If daughter is too young to go on own I would say take into gents. After having a quick scoot around to see if anyone is in shouting a warning to other blokes to enable them to finish their business or vacate and come back afer the dad and daughter have been in and gone. I don't believe it's acceptable for an adult male to go into the ladies in this scenario. I would say the same for mother and son. |
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I think so, yes. If I was in the ladies and a man brought his daughter in I would be ok with it.
I was in the ladies recently when a woman brought her adult son with learning disabilities in. I was ok with that too.
The doors lock in public toilets, anything personal is done behind those doors. |
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I feel like it shouldn’t be a problem and in other coutries I have seen it. But I think most women in the UK would feel uncomfortable seeing a man in there and knowone should feel uncomfortable. It’s a hard one to commit a definite opinion too. |
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Absolutely not. You would risk an awful situation. Going into the ladies and into a closed cubicle with or without the kids. The implication is obvious that you would be at least spying on the neighbours.
Imagine a womans reaction - she walks in to see you coming out of the cubicle. She would be on her mobile to the police, before the child had time to follow you out!!
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I doub't he's going to be getting his tackle out any peeing in the sink. Of course it's OK, it's far better than inflicting a gents Loos on a child. I wouldn't have a problem with it, it's not a changing room,its a loo.  |
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"If daughter is too young to go on own I would say take into gents. "
Best choice in a no win situation.
I have been in a public loo, and standing at a wall mounted urinal, enjoying a pee, when I looked round to see a young girl watching from the side to get the best view she could. Dad had brought her in and he was washing his hands or something. She was just curious, but it is difficult! |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men "
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way... |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men "
Oh, and generally speaking we don't all gather round trap 3 to watch little girls take a dump whenever their dads being them into a public toilet either, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples. "
Slightly off topic. - The non-gender specific toilets in the bars in the gay village are an education!
They can be fun too when associated with the consumtion of liberal quantities of alcohol. Definitely no place for a child though. |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way... "
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss... |
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The nappy changing table is always in the disabled loo, presumably so that it doesn’t matter which gender is taking the child for a nappy change. Therefore that same principle can be applied to children who are no longer in nappies but still young enough to require an adult to go with them. That being said I do remember my dad taking by me into the gents changing rooms at the swimming pool when he took me swimming. There were men changing. I guess that would be considered a bad thing these days, but it didn’t seem a big deal at the time.
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" I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way... "
Maybe the ladies on here will confirm or deny, but I believe it is fairly common for women to "Hover" or even stand on the seat, rather than sit in a public loo.
Having followed a woman into a shared facility, I have witnessed first hand the lack of direction toward the hole in an unlifted seat!
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"at the swimming pool when he took me swimming. There were men changing. I guess that would be considered a bad thing these days, but it didn’t seem a big thing at the time.
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That would have been the cold water! It has that effect. |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss..."
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor. |
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Why couldn't he take her in the gents? It's like a mum taking her son in to the gents as he's a boy, but kids tend to go the toilet that the parent they're with identifies with. If they're not comfortable with it then there are the disabled/baby changing toilets they can use. |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor. "
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent. |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor.
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent. "
I am, of course, lumbering all the examples of how women like to trash their bogs all in together. It's rarely a full house, but I have seen all of the above in one go a number of times. It aaaaaaaalways the sanitary gear though. I'd take a pissy floor over picking used pads off the walls any day.  |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor.
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent.
I am, of course, lumbering all the examples of how women like to trash their bogs all in together. It's rarely a full house, but I have seen all of the above in one go a number of times. It aaaaaaaalways the sanitary gear though. I'd take a pissy floor over picking used pads off the walls any day. "
My world just feel apart. I used to be happy thinking i just got the genetic short straw having to use the mans toilets. They fucking stink. Now it seems the world is just disgusting for everyone. Im off to take a shower. |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor.
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent.
I am, of course, lumbering all the examples of how women like to trash their bogs all in together. It's rarely a full house, but I have seen all of the above in one go a number of times. It aaaaaaaalways the sanitary gear though. I'd take a pissy floor over picking used pads off the walls any day.
My world just feel apart. I used to be happy thinking i just got the genetic short straw having to use the mans toilets. They fucking stink. Now it seems the world is just disgusting for everyone. Im off to take a shower. "
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor.
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent.
I am, of course, lumbering all the examples of how women like to trash their bogs all in together. It's rarely a full house, but I have seen all of the above in one go a number of times. It aaaaaaaalways the sanitary gear though. I'd take a pissy floor over picking used pads off the walls any day.
My world just feel apart. I used to be happy thinking i just got the genetic short straw having to use the mans toilets. They fucking stink. Now it seems the world is just disgusting for everyone. Im off to take a shower.
Bless yer "
We've completely derailed this thread, sorry OP! |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor.
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent.
I am, of course, lumbering all the examples of how women like to trash their bogs all in together. It's rarely a full house, but I have seen all of the above in one go a number of times. It aaaaaaaalways the sanitary gear though. I'd take a pissy floor over picking used pads off the walls any day.
My world just feel apart. I used to be happy thinking i just got the genetic short straw having to use the mans toilets. They fucking stink. Now it seems the world is just disgusting for everyone. Im off to take a shower.
Bless yer
We've completely derailed this thread, sorry OP! "
No we've answered it perfectly. The answer to the OPs question is that it doesn't matter because both are disgusting in their own ways. |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Huh? How? Why? I'm in shock. It's not like woman can really miss...
They can't seem to change their tampons/pads without smearing them everywhere, hanging them from the cistern, sticking them sunny-side-up on the walls, throwing them in the sinks, writing on the mirrors with them etc. They also seem to put more bogroll on the floors than down the loo, and scatter pissed-on pregnancy testers around like confetti.
But no, there isn't often pee on the floor. All over the seats, but not generally all over the floor.
While I agree women's toilets are messier than men's ( usually in clubs/pubs) I've never seen it to that extent.
I am, of course, lumbering all the examples of how women like to trash their bogs all in together. It's rarely a full house, but I have seen all of the above in one go a number of times. It aaaaaaaalways the sanitary gear though. I'd take a pissy floor over picking used pads off the walls any day.
My world just feel apart. I used to be happy thinking i just got the genetic short straw having to use the mans toilets. They fucking stink. Now it seems the world is just disgusting for everyone. Im off to take a shower.
Bless yer
We've completely derailed this thread, sorry OP!
No we've answered it perfectly. The answer to the OPs question is that it doesn't matter because both are disgusting in their own ways. "
Agreed. Cleanliness has been discounted as a decision maker in the connundrum. Good work people! |
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"I feel like it shouldn’t be a problem and in other coutries I have seen it. But I think most women in the UK would feel uncomfortable seeing a man in there and knowone should feel uncomfortable. It’s a hard one to commit a definite opinion too."
It is,I'm not sure how I feel about it to be honest. My first thought was no,but that's just daft,think I may just be a little surprised that's all. Would any man be brave enough to do it anyway? |
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I have taken a friend’s son into the gents... but didn’t go all the way in. Just called out and hung around by the door and I asked him not to lock the door. He was about 12 but has learning problems. I just yelled I was coming in.
My daughter’s dad has taken her in the gents without drama. He’s also stood outside the women’s loo talking to her from the doorway.
I can’t see the issue to be honest.
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I think it is okay, yes most certainly. Common sense must prevail. In the lady's we sit on the scrapper behind a locked door. In the gents they piss in a urinary in full view of others. Should small girls be exposed to the possibility of seeing a man's penis in a public loo...hell no. Safety of child must come first before indignant women. We have men cleaners in our local toilets. I don't see a problem with a man taking a daughter/granddaughter/ little sister/ ect into the lady's. |
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"I always took my son into the women's but now that he is nearly 5 I take him into the disabled toilets as this helps the whole scenario. "
Except for you are using a disabled facility that is not meant for non disabled persons, thus possibly depriving a disabled person of using that toilet, with risk of pissing themselves or worse. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
Women will never accept this.
Surely you mean some women unless you speak for the majority."
I had assumed they wouldn't want their toilets to stink of piss like the mens, but apparently they have their own problems |
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the mens loos, are no place for young kids and sometimes a parent and child loo isnt avialable. I have no issue with this |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men
I've cleaned a lot of toilets in various jobs over the years, and while there's no denying a lot of men seem to be incapable of pissing into a trough instead of all over the floor, I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way... "
Well I’m sorry but all the men’s ive been in have been rank |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A little off topic but... I went to take my then 8 year old son into a ladies public toilet in a world famous toy shop in London. I was stopped at the door by an attendant and was told he had to go to the gents by himself!!!
There was no way that was happening.
I contacted the store after and was told that wasn't their policy, but it happened.
Family toilets are the way to go. One cubical like a disabled toilet but smaller.
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"I always took my son into the women's but now that he is nearly 5 I take him into the disabled toilets as this helps the whole scenario.
Except for you are using a disabled facility that is not meant for non disabled persons, thus possibly depriving a disabled person of using that toilet, with risk of pissing themselves or worse. "
Every human has the ability to be patient and if they are unable to hold their bladder than they would be using something to preven't that. This threat isnt about using facilities that are not for you but how you deal with taking young children into public toilets. |
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"I always took my son into the women's but now that he is nearly 5 I take him into the disabled toilets as this helps the whole scenario.
Except for you are using a disabled facility that is not meant for non disabled persons, thus possibly depriving a disabled person of using that toilet, with risk of pissing themselves or worse. "
The disabled facility is not just for disabled people. It’s also for parents and carers to change nappies, as that is where the nappy change table is.
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"I always took my son into the women's but now that he is nearly 5 I take him into the disabled toilets as this helps the whole scenario.
Except for you are using a disabled facility that is not meant for non disabled persons, thus possibly depriving a disabled person of using that toilet, with risk of pissing themselves or worse.
The disabled facility is not just for disabled people. It’s also for parents and carers to change nappies, as that is where the nappy change table is.
Mrs"
Not always...ive a few places lately that have baby change facilities in both male and female toilets. |
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There does seem to be an awful lot of paranoia about what does or doesn't go on in public loos.
Are they really such dangerous places? Are we all,including our children,at such risk when we go in there?
Do we have any reliable data about what percentage of people go into public loos with any intention other than doing their private business and getting the hell out as quickly as possible with as little human interaction as possible?
How many dads would rather poke their own eyes out than go into the ladies under any circumstances? I suspect it's a lot. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
A simple and easy solution. Mixed gender toilets with just cubicles. Problem solved!
Sadly there are too many perverted men... "
Based on what? Do most men like piss and shit? - no |
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"I have taken a friend’s son into the gents... but didn’t go all the way in. Just called out and hung around by the door and I asked him not to lock the door. He was about 12 but has learning problems. I just yelled I was coming in.
My daughter’s dad has taken her in the gents without drama. He’s also stood outside the women’s loo talking to her from the doorway.
I can’t see the issue to be honest.
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When my grandson goes into the mens' on his own I shout that I'll be waiting by the door, as he goes in. |
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"Should small girls be exposed to the possibility of seeing a man's penis in a public loo...hell no. Safety of child must come first before indignant women."
How exactly is a child endangered by the possible sight of a penis being used for its most common non-sexual function? They've no doubt seen dad's or other family members before. It's this sort of hysteria that causes the need for the whole debate. Just take the kid to pee in whichever is convenient or appropriate for their age. If they're old enough to be weirded out by going to the "wrong' one, they're old enough to go on their own. |
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"I think it is okay, yes most certainly. Common sense must prevail. In the lady's we sit on the scrapper behind a locked door. In the gents they piss in a urinary in full view of others. Should small girls be exposed to the possibility of seeing a man's penis in a public loo...hell no. Safety of child must come first before indignant women. We have men cleaners in our local toilets. I don't see a problem with a man taking a daughter/granddaughter/ little sister/ ect into the lady's."
You know it's not cool to look at a guys dick when he's pissing? You can get in a lot of trouble doing that in a public toilet with the wrong guy |
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An ex partner of mine once told me a guy walked into the ladies however he stood at the entrance and asked loudly if anyone had objections to him bringing and assisting his daughter.
I believe it would be okay however some common sense required. |
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If we are out together i (mrs) will take our daughter to the loo, but if the situation arises then hubby has no qualms in taking her to the gents.
Hubby has said that he won't take our daughter into the ladies, in-fear of repercussions from female users.
At the end if the day if our daughter needs the loo, she is safe whilst she is accomponied by either of us into whichever gender toilet.
Family toilets are a great idea and would help stop some of the hysteria.
Slightly off topic, yes mens loos do stink, usually of urine but i have been disgusted in some of the female loos i have used before now. I would hate to see what peoples loos are like at home, if they treat public ones the same |
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"If we are out together i (mrs) will take our daughter to the loo, but if the situation arises then hubby has no qualms in taking her to the gents.
Hubby has said that he won't take our daughter into the ladies, in-fear of repercussions from female users.
At the end if the day if our daughter needs the loo, she is safe whilst she is accomponied by either of us into whichever gender toilet.
Family toilets are a great idea and would help stop some of the hysteria.
Slightly off topic, yes mens loos do stink, usually of urine but i have been disgusted in some of the female loos i have used before now. I would hate to see what peoples loos are like at home, if they treat public ones the same "
I have a friend, he's very well educated, good job, well presented, articulate, handsome and can't piss in a straight line to save his life. I've asked him so many times why he struggles and he just says his mind wonders... |
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"... debate on a morning programme
Your thought's .... sensible ones please .....
the mens loos, are no place for young kids and sometimes a parent and child loo isnt avialable. I have no issue with this"
Why are men's loos no place for young kids, exactly? |
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A lot of cultures never segregated toilets by gender. Degendered toilets are becoming more common in restaurants and other sem-public places. As long as they are cubicles and not urinals, what is the problem?
I've seen dads bring young daughters into the gets many times. Doesn't seem to be an issue. My mum took me to the ladies up until I was about 7 years old. |
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Definitely take into the ladies as there is no chance of her seeing something she shouldn't, the ladies has cubicles and they are more understanding then men and cleaner. |
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sorry if this has been said already - I actually find it kind of sad that a discussion like this is needed. why would I have a problem with a man in the ladies with a child? it's not like men don't know we dart as well...
but then I never understand why women in changing rooms are still worried about being naked in front of other ladies. or why children are not in the bathroom together with their family seeing them naked. isn't it natural? I know I have seen my dad many of times naked and it definitely didn't do any harm. sad that its such a tricky topic for lots of people... |
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"Should small girls be exposed to the possibility of seeing a man's penis in a public loo...hell no. Safety of child must come first before indignant women.
How exactly is a child endangered by the possible sight of a penis being used for its most common non-sexual function? They've no doubt seen dad's or other family members before. It's this sort of hysteria that causes the need for the whole debate. Just take the kid to pee in whichever is convenient or appropriate for their age. If they're old enough to be weirded out by going to the "wrong' one, they're old enough to go on their own."
Exactly.
It amazes me sometimes that people on a swingers site can be so prissy. When my kids were young (I have one of each sex) I just took them in the gents. I don't think my daughter was traumatised by seeing men pissing. She'd seen me and her brother do it often enough. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
A simple and easy solution. Mixed gender toilets with just cubicles. Problem solved!
Sadly there are too many perverted men...
Based on what? Do most men like piss and shit? - no"
I didn't say most I said a lot |
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"sorry if this has been said already - I actually find it kind of sad that a discussion like this is needed. why would I have a problem with a man in the ladies with a child? it's not like men don't know we dart as well...
but then I never understand why women in changing rooms are still worried about being naked in front of other ladies. or why children are not in the bathroom together with their family seeing them naked. isn't it natural? I know I have seen my dad many of times naked and it definitely didn't do any harm. sad that its such a tricky topic for lots of people..."
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"Yes, people really need to stop treating men as if every man is a pedo. My guess pedo counts for 0.01 percent and blown up to be one in two. "
I did a thread on paedophile hysteria yesterday, most people agree it's got out of hand |
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"I doub't he's going to be getting his tackle out any peeing in the sink. Of course it's OK, it's far better than inflicting a gents Loos on a child. I wouldn't have a problem with it, it's not a changing room,its a loo. "
I agree!
The cubicles are separate so I really can’t see what the problem would be! X |
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"Yes, people really need to stop treating men as if every man is a pedo. My guess pedo counts for 0.01 percent and blown up to be one in two.
I did a thread on paedophile hysteria yesterday, most people agree it's got out of hand"
It can be quite alarming when you read about some in local papers and discover they are or have been on here |
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I never would - far too pushy. I'd never take mine into mens loos either - generally filthy and with at least a few weirdos hanging around. Either a disabled loo or a potty in the back of the car if they're small enough. Failing that I'd rather go into shop and ask to use the staff loos. People are surprisingly helpful when it comes to little ones. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
A simple and easy solution. Mixed gender toilets with just cubicles. Problem solved!
Sadly there are too many perverted men...
Based on what? Do most men like piss and shit? - no
I didn't say most I said a lot"
Even if there are perverted men in a public loo, they are hardly going to anything to a child accompanied by a parent |
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Are the people who are worried about men accompanying children the same people who are worried about trans people in bathrooms?
Maybe we should have one loo for people who are happy to just get on with things and another loo for people who seem to see danger lurking everywhere (except where the danger actually is) and seem to be afraid of their own shadows. This loo could have metal,detectors,full body searches (on the way in and on the way out) and CCTV in every cubicle.
This might reduce overcrowding and queues in the loo for people who just want to go to the loo without prying into everybody elses business. |
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"Yes, people really need to stop treating men as if every man is a pedo. My guess pedo counts for 0.01 percent and blown up to be one in two.
I did a thread on paedophile hysteria yesterday, most people agree it's got out of hand
It can be quite alarming when you read about some in local papers and discover they are or have been on here"
Not really when you understand probabilities and large numbers |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
Women will never accept this.
They might bloody have to with the way this gender issue is going. "
No no, I'm not having women in our bathrooms after what I've read on this thread. I'll take piss soaked shoes any day of the week over what they are doing. |
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"I feel like it shouldn’t be a problem and in other coutries I have seen it. But I think most women in the UK would feel uncomfortable seeing a man in there and knowone should feel uncomfortable. It’s a hard one to commit a definite opinion too."
Oh I don't bother. Lots of toilet attendants are now male nowadays |
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"Absolutely not. You would risk an awful situation. Going into the ladies and into a closed cubicle with or without the kids. The implication is obvious that you would be at least spying on the neighbours.
Imagine a womans reaction - she walks in to see you coming out of the cubicle. She would be on her mobile to the police, before the child had time to follow you out!!
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Interesting view.
It may have been mentioned already but if I visit a loo at work or motorway services there's often a female cleaner there and it doesn't cause a problem. Do male cleaners go in the female toilet? |
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"Absolutely not. You would risk an awful situation. Going into the ladies and into a closed cubicle with or without the kids. The implication is obvious that you would be at least spying on the neighbours.
Imagine a womans reaction - she walks in to see you coming out of the cubicle. She would be on her mobile to the police, before the child had time to follow you out!!
Interesting view.
It may have been mentioned already but if I visit a loo at work or motorway services there's often a female cleaner there and it doesn't cause a problem. Do male cleaners go in the female toilet?"
Yes, they put a sign up but half the time I don't notice it. |
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A bit off topic but I was in a well know (cheap) clothing shop and noticed that the ladies had seperate changing rooms but the men's and children's were mixed!
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"Absolutely not. You would risk an awful situation. Going into the ladies and into a closed cubicle with or without the kids. The implication is obvious that you would be at least spying on the neighbours.
Imagine a womans reaction - she walks in to see you coming out of the cubicle. She would be on her mobile to the police, before the child had time to follow you out!!
Interesting view.
It may have been mentioned already but if I visit a loo at work or motorway services there's often a female cleaner there and it doesn't cause a problem. Do male cleaners go in the female toilet?"
Yes they do. |
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"Absolutely not. You would risk an awful situation. Going into the ladies and into a closed cubicle with or without the kids. The implication is obvious that you would be at least spying on the neighbours.
Imagine a womans reaction - she walks in to see you coming out of the cubicle. She would be on her mobile to the police, before the child had time to follow you out!!
Interesting view.
It may have been mentioned already but if I visit a loo at work or motorway services there's often a female cleaner there and it doesn't cause a problem. Do male cleaners go in the female toilet?"
Interesting how men can't be trusted to take a piss in a gents toilet without spontaneously transforming into a predatory paedophile, but having them cleaning a ladies is absolutely fine. Maybe Zoflora suppresses every man's uncontrollable urge to abuse kids and peek at women, somehow. Like some sort of chemical castration, but with marigolds. |
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Never thought of this...but I’d go with yes.
If you take her in gents it’s “open” so she could see things you don’t want her to. Ladies are closed cubicles...so much more private and less of a problem surely? |
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"Never thought of this...but I’d go with yes.
If you take her in gents it’s “open” so she could see things you don’t want her to. Ladies are closed cubicles...so much more private and less of a problem surely?"
My thoughts exactly |
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"Are the people who are worried about men accompanying children the same people who are worried about trans people in bathrooms?
Maybe we should have one loo for people who are happy to just get on with things and another loo for people who seem to see danger lurking everywhere (except where the danger actually is) and seem to be afraid of their own shadows. This loo could have metal,detectors,full body searches (on the way in and on the way out) and CCTV in every cubicle.
This might reduce overcrowding and queues in the loo for people who just want to go to the loo without prying into everybody elses business."
Exactly, spot on. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples. "
We have mixed toilets at my university and not heard anyone complain about them so far, obviously it's different with children but that hasn't happened yet |
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Having been a parent for best part of 15 years we've never had a problem with this, when the boys were younger I would take them into the ladies with me, and Fred would have either taken the girls in with him to the gents or possibly the disabled loo. Lots of bars and restaurants have one set of unisex toilets and I think this is great, and the children don't bat an eyelid at this.
When I was younger my Dad used to take me swimming every week and I'd always go with him into the men's changing rooms, it was never an issue and I don't believe it had any negative impact on me either short or long term.
Some people really over think things and see problems where there are none. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
We have mixed toilets at my university and not heard anyone complain about them so far, obviously it's different with children but that hasn't happened yet"
It isn't obvious to me that it's different, unless you're thinking they need to install some of those tiny school toilets at your uni. |
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I was recently at a hotel where the toilets in the reception area were signposted with a male, female and trans sign on the door.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Many countries never did segregate toilets by gender. 99.99% of people using public or hotel/restaurant bogs are just having a pee or poo. What is the big deal? |
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We tended to use the disabled toilet no matter who took them. We have identical twin girls and there is no way you can fit three people into a single cubicle and you can't leave one alone outside. |
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Thing is 99% of people, whether male or female, just go to the toilet to do what they have to do and get out. The reason we have gender segregated toilets is nothing to do with safety but with people generally finding it disconcerting to possibly catch a glimpse of the genitals of a member of the opposite sex.
In a perfect world, we would all be grown up about that and have non segregated toilets. |
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"Thing is 99% of people, whether male or female, just go to the toilet to do what they have to do and get out. The reason we have gender segregated toilets is nothing to do with safety but with people generally finding it disconcerting to possibly catch a glimpse of the genitals of a member of the opposite sex.
In a perfect world, we would all be grown up about that and have non segregated toilets. "
Although, from my observations, 30% of men struggle to go for a shit like a normal human being |
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It depends on the situation.
Age of child, until very recently there was no nappy changing area in gents toilets. Then there is an age of dressing undressing and lifting onto the seat, followed by standing outside cubicle holding the door shut. Chances of having a cubicle available in the ladies is much higher. Then dad's can gradually back off further and further until stood outside waiting.
Reality was when my children needed the toilet stuff embarasment they went in the first one found. Most female toilets have cubicles with doors. So I don't really see the issue. |
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Being the dad of two young boys i can safely say when they turn to me and say "i need the toilet" the clock starts ticking. I would and have used the closest facilities(which have always been gents thankfully) but wouldn't hesitate if i had a girl to take her into the ladies if needs be.
When they have to go they HAVE TO GO a few disapproving looks vs a happy dry child..No contest. |
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I have to add that being a single dad I never once got a complaint for taking my daughter into the ladies toilet. Quite the opposite in fact we were frequently encouraged to queue jump, and got a lot of cheerful smiles in the process.
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My dad always took me in, when I was little, wasn't often the option of disabled toilets or baby rooms back then.
It was never an issue, he'd always check, give a friendly warning "just bringing my daughter in"
I don't ever remember seeing a willy waved in my face, just remember holding my breath a lot!
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"Why do we in this country make such a drama of everything, on the continent they just get on with it. I thought this was a swingers forum not a Quakers reunion forum. "
This. Times ten. Many other countries and cultures just don't make a fuss about it. |
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Simple answer to this one is that the toddler goes into the toilets of the gender the parent that’s taking them .
I certainly never took my daughter into the ladies and my wife has never taken our son into the gents . |
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Yes I took my daughters in with me to change at our public pool until they where 6/7 then let them go into the women at around 8, Do not think women want me to go in to there's , lol I might want to buttttt |
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No, I don’t think that’s ok in the slightest. Use the disabled one if a parent and child isn’t available. I wouldn’t like a mother to bring her son into the gents while I was kissing into a urinal. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
Women will never accept this. "
Neither would men, not this man anyway. Some things should remain gender specific ffs. |
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Passed a Dad with three daughters on the way to a busy public toilet. He obviously wasn't comfortable entering the ladies so he asked would I mind escorting one while he waited outside with the other two. Unlikely a Mum would ask a man to do the same but possible option there. |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
Women will never accept this.
Neither would men, not this man anyway. Some things should remain gender specific ffs."
I'd rather piss my pants than enter a mixed gander toilet.
Are women not vulnerable enough as it is we should be made to feel comfortable using the toilet as well
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
Women will never accept this.
Neither would men, not this man anyway. Some things should remain gender specific ffs.
I'd rather piss my pants than enter a mixed gander toilet.
Are women not vulnerable enough as it is we should be made to feel comfortable using the toilet as well
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What about on trains and aeroplanes, men and women use the same loos and quite often queue outside to use them |
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"Just degender public and restaurant toilets. Simples.
Women will never accept this.
Neither would men, not this man anyway. Some things should remain gender specific ffs.
I'd rather piss my pants than enter a mixed gander toilet.
Are women not vulnerable enough as it is we should be made to feel comfortable using the toilet as well
What about on trains and aeroplanes, men and women use the same loos and quite often queue outside to use them "
Trains and aeroplanes are individual cubicles with lots of people around
Not the same as having mixed pubic toilets |
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I personally don't have a problem with this. A lot of public toilets will have male cleaners cleaning the ladies and lady cleaners cleaning the men's and there are always cubicles. I don't see the difference of a male cleaner or dad taking his dad into the ladies. You have to remember mens toilets don't have as many cubicles. I take my son into the ladies or will use a parent and toddler room if one is available. My husband has taken our daughter into the mens but she is at the age where no one is allowed to take her as she is 7 lol
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"No, I don’t think that’s ok in the slightest. Use the disabled one if a parent and child isn’t available. I wouldn’t like a mother to bring her son into the gents while I was kissing into a urinal. "
Spot on .
If I’m taking a piss and a mum walked in I would not be happy at all . |
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"I personally don't have a problem with this. A lot of public toilets will have male cleaners cleaning the ladies and lady cleaners cleaning the men's and there are always cubicles. I don't see the difference of a male cleaner or dad taking his dad into the ladies. You have to remember mens toilets don't have as many cubicles. I take my son into the ladies or will use a parent and toddler room if one is available. My husband has taken our daughter into the mens but she is at the age where no one is allowed to take her as she is 7 lol
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Proof reading is a good thing coz y would a dad be taking his dad into the ladies |
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" I've always found ladies toilets to be considerably more rank than gents.
Bit of a deviation from the topic at hand, I know, but if I can correct a misconception along the way...
Maybe the ladies on here will confirm or deny, but I believe it is fairly common for women to "Hover" or even stand on the seat, rather than sit in a public loo.
Having followed a woman into a shared facility, I have witnessed first hand the lack of direction toward the hole in an unlifted seat!
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I avoid public toilet if possible.. I wouldn't dream of sitting on the seat! Always squat over bowl.. never miss though.. however I've seen disgusting mess in the women's toilets at gala bingo.. no. Children to blame in there I guess |
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"I don’t have kids so I don’t know but wouldn’t it be better that way than taking a small girls the men’s which let’s be frank are usually disgusting and the obvious potential of lots of other men "
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