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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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I have been writing a book narrating the real experiences Cleo and I have had as we have journeyed into this wonderful world of sexual exploration.
I've just finished a chapter describing Cleo's first experience with black guys - she enjoyed 2 BBCs a couple of weeks back.
Even though it is widespread and men seem to use it in their own profiles and it appears in literature and film etc., I still feel slightly uncomfortable about using the term Black Man and BBC and characterising people by race.
The difficulty is, there do seem to be some racial characteristics that are relevant to sex and porn - and in terms of black guys they are usually completely positive, as they are in our experience. But it isn't for me to say that these terms are acceptable.
I suppose I am hoping for reassurance here as the last thing I would want to do would be to cause offence. I also think it would be incredibly difficult - in fact probably a little pointless - describing this experience without referring to the race-specific elements of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What did those guys refer to themselves as? If they said they where black then refer to them as black, as you mentioned depends on the context of the text, your not using it in a derogatory way so I wouldn't worry about it. Would love to read some though, not that I'm a perv or anything. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I never mention any ones race or colour unless it's relevant!
Mentioning some ones colour or race as a means to differentiate or describe shouldn't be offensive.
If you like black men, you need to use the word black! |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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I'm going to post it in the fantasy/story forum today so you can read it there.
It is long though, so not a light read. Usually 10 000 words per chapter. This is chapter 9 just complete. It is an interesting journey starting with horniness, disaster, and now at the stage where we can have some amazing guilt-free experiences that only bring us closer together. It is interesting (and horny) for me to record them so we can remember, but I also think others would find it interesting. Newbies might find it particularly reassuring - and some lessons to learn. |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I never mention any ones race or colour unless it's relevant!
Mentioning some ones colour or race as a means to differentiate or describe shouldn't be offensive.
If you like black men, you need to use the word black!"
Cleo definitely likes black men now! |
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"I never mention any ones race or colour unless it's relevant!
Mentioning some ones colour or race as a means to differentiate or describe shouldn't be offensive.
If you like black men, you need to use the word black!
Cleo definitely likes black men now!"
Is that what her tattoo is for? I can't quite tell. |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I never mention any ones race or colour unless it's relevant!
Mentioning some ones colour or race as a means to differentiate or describe shouldn't be offensive.
If you like black men, you need to use the word black!
Cleo definitely likes black men now!
Is that what her tattoo is for? I can't quite tell. "
No.
Does a specific tattoo exist to convey an interest in black guys?  |
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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I still feel slightly uncomfortable about using the term Black Man and BBC and characterising people by race."
As a fairly politicised trans oriental female, the issue of "exotica" is a mine-field when looking for, and engaging with sexual partners.
Some trans BME (Black & Minority Ethnic - this term favoured in the UK) say if I make myself too "exotic" then people see the stereotypes and not the person. My personal view is if you have a feature (e.g. big boobs), make the most of it but quickly you will find out if your "admirer" can look beyond skin-deep.
I think there is also a difference between how men and women perceive their sexual partners. I remember decades ago, male colleagues in the office were reprimanded for having Page 3 pics on their walls. Their response is the women have pictures of (clothed) George Cloony/Johnny Depp on their work-stations. They can't see the world of difference between them.
So I guess if you write about Black Men like sex objects - in storyline they don't have names or speak, then that could be argued to be offensive. But if they are main characters in the story, with lives, wants and emotions, then in my view that is perfectly acceptable.
BTW, the term "People of Color" - favoured in USA is finding traction with our internet savvy younger generations. |
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If someone referred to me as a "person of colour" I'd find that offensive!
I mean, holy fuck: when will this bollocks end? At this rate there'll be a Google app translate to use before addressing anyone for fear of getting their race, sex etc wrong! 
Op, don't over think it. Unfortunately nowadays people will take offense about any and everything...you can't win.
You and your wife just enjoy! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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if you don't like the term BBC.... don't use it.... simple as!
here'a a little secret for you.... not all black guys like the term BBC either!!!! you are likely turning off many of the very same people you like as you are turning on!!!! 
people who see the term as some sort of USP will play up to it, heck minimal effort for maximum results...... but others will absolutely want no part of it!
i suppose in the end of the way... it depends on how people define themselves...
me personally.... I define myself on the things about myself that I can control.... as opposed to the things I can't.....
it's the different between being "a nice guy, who just happens to be black!" and " a black guy, who just happens to be nice!
the onus being on the thing I can control "the nice" over the thing i can't "the black" |
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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If someone referred to me as a "person of colour" I'd find that offensive!"
Yes, the argument behind that is partly due to the fact that White Caucasian is not colourless, so the term is nonsensical. Also term widely used during slavery period. But it seems our (UK) young are using this American term more and more.
" Op, don't over think it. Unfortunately nowadays people will take offense about any and everything...you can't win."
Quite right - as long as we understand the issues/arguments behind our language. If people make genuine mistakes then we may wish to educate. |
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"If someone referred to me as a "person of colour" I'd find that offensive!
Yes, the argument behind that is partly due to the fact that White Caucasian is not colourless, so the term is nonsensical. Also term widely used during slavery period. But it seems our (UK) young are using this American term more and more.
Op, don't over think it. Unfortunately nowadays people will take offense about any and everything...you can't win.
Quite right - as long as we understand the issues/arguments behind our language. If people make genuine mistakes then we may wish to educate."
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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It's so complex.
See there are also implications that have nothing at all to do with stereotypes of generalisations.
I find black skin on white skin incredibly beautiful. The contrast is visually stunning. You cannot define beauty; you can just identify things that exhibit the quality. Of course beauty is subjective, but there are a lot of things that the majority find beautiful, so (in a very Platonic way) you assume there is an objective quality that is beauty.
Black skin I find beautiful. White skin I find beautiful. Add them both together and they are synergistic.
So that is hard, because it is purely visual. "Person of colour" against "Person of not quite so much colour" won't describe it. For me though it is the most attractive visual thing about interracial sex. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you're uncomfortable referring to a black person as black then.......
As for the term bbc it's so annoying because 1 not all black men have big dicks and 2 it's almost as if it's the only selling point.
But I suppose to each their own.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have been writing a book narrating the real experiences Cleo and I have had as we have journeyed into this wonderful world of sexual exploration.
I've just finished a chapter describing Cleo's first experience with black guys - she enjoyed 2 BBCs a couple of weeks back.
Even though it is widespread and men seem to use it in their own profiles and it appears in literature and film etc., I still feel slightly uncomfortable about using the term Black Man and BBC and characterising people by race.
The difficulty is, there do seem to be some racial characteristics that are relevant to sex and porn - and in terms of black guys they are usually completely positive, as they are in our experience. But it isn't for me to say that these terms are acceptable.
I suppose I am hoping for reassurance here as the last thing I would want to do would be to cause offence. I also think it would be incredibly difficult - in fact probably a little pointless - describing this experience without referring to the race-specific elements of it."
Just write it how you think you should. And then go back, re-read it after you’ve completely finished.
Think about the context, if it sounds offensive or odd then edit certain sentences and swap out words until it sounds the way you want. That’s what I do all the time - the editing process works way better when you do it at the end, instead of trying to censor yourself as you write. |
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"I thought Black was accepted in all contexts, or has it changed again?
Black is fine. To me "person of colour" translates as the wrong kind of PC and patronising."
I spent time recently with some colleagues from South Africa. One was a mixed race guy. They told me that coloured is a totally acceptable term to describe someone like him in their own country. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Of course you can use the word black in a sexual context. There are lots of people who will only consider fucking someone if they are black, so how can shift on that definition? |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"You're writing a book about swinging and you're worried about offending people? "
I was thinking about this - I guess one response is that respect is essential to swinging. For us it is an absolute. If we join with other people, respect is the first and foremost thing.
And my concern here is also about respect - I don’t want to disrespect anyone. It’s just that terms like BBC etc are “household” terms in sexual environments. But as I was writing about it I suddenly thought - I wonder if anyone is actually offended by these terms.
The editing tip was a good one. I’m just working back through it, rewording and deleting. I think it will work. |
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"You're writing a book about swinging and you're worried about offending people?
I was thinking about this - I guess one response is that respect is essential to swinging. For us it is an absolute. If we join with other people, respect is the first and foremost thing.
And my concern here is also about respect - I don’t want to disrespect anyone. It’s just that terms like BBC etc are “household” terms in sexual environments. But as I was writing about it I suddenly thought - I wonder if anyone is actually offended by these terms.
The editing tip was a good one. I’m just working back through it, rewording and deleting. I think it will work. "
I admire your intentions but these days people are lining up to take offence at something. Think of it another way, the people who adjust their speech the most in order to offend as few people as possible are politicians. Yet most people hate the way they speak. So the more you censor your speech, the less appealing your book is to read. People want to feel authenticity from a writer, for better or worse, so use the words that you use in your relationship.
PS: where's it being published? It sounds interesting |
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"black" is the current polite way to refer to black people in the UK and no one is going to be offended by that.
Terms like BBC are a different matter. There's a whole culture of fetishising black men regarding their unrestrained sexuality which ultimately derives from nineteenth century colonial attitudes. . BBC is part of that culture, so some people will be offended by it.
The whole thing depends what your intended market is. If it's essentially porn, no one is likely to care about the politics. If you are being more reflective, I would avoid pornish terms like BBC. |
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""black" is the current polite way to refer to black people in the UK and no one is going to be offended by that.
Terms like BBC are a different matter. There's a whole culture of fetishising black men regarding their unrestrained sexuality which ultimately derives from nineteenth century colonial attitudes. . BBC is part of that culture, so some people will be offended by it.
The whole thing depends what your intended market is. If it's essentially porn, no one is likely to care about the politics. If you are being more reflective, I would avoid pornish terms like BBC. "
On average, black men have the longest penises of any racial group. In my experience, i find people who object to the term BBC often want to deny this fact. |
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""black" is the current polite way to refer to black people in the UK and no one is going to be offended by that.
Terms like BBC are a different matter. There's a whole culture of fetishising black men regarding their unrestrained sexuality which ultimately derives from nineteenth century colonial attitudes. . BBC is part of that culture, so some people will be offended by it.
The whole thing depends what your intended market is. If it's essentially porn, no one is likely to care about the politics. If you are being more reflective, I would avoid pornish terms like BBC.
On average, black men have the longest penises of any racial group. In my experience, i find people who object to the term BBC often want to deny this fact. "
Not in my experience. It's people who object to the objectification. Lots of women don't want the most salient fact about them to be the size of their tits, ditto with black men and their penises.
Some women and black men of course don't give a damn and some revel on it, but it's entirely reasonable to object to the objectification. |
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""black" is the current polite way to refer to black people in the UK and no one is going to be offended by that.
Terms like BBC are a different matter. There's a whole culture of fetishising black men regarding their unrestrained sexuality which ultimately derives from nineteenth century colonial attitudes. . BBC is part of that culture, so some people will be offended by it.
The whole thing depends what your intended market is. If it's essentially porn, no one is likely to care about the politics. If you are being more reflective, I would avoid pornish terms like BBC.
On average, black men have the longest penises of any racial group. In my experience, i find people who object to the term BBC often want to deny this fact. "
The most people who I have spoken with, who object to the term BBC, have been black men, with above average cocks. |
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""black" is the current polite way to refer to black people in the UK and no one is going to be offended by that.
Terms like BBC are a different matter. There's a whole culture of fetishising black men regarding their unrestrained sexuality which ultimately derives from nineteenth century colonial attitudes. . BBC is part of that culture, so some people will be offended by it.
The whole thing depends what your intended market is. If it's essentially porn, no one is likely to care about the politics. If you are being more reflective, I would avoid pornish terms like BBC.
On average, black men have the longest penises of any racial group. In my experience, i find people who object to the term BBC often want to deny this fact.
The most people who I have spoken with, who object to the term BBC, have been black men, with above average cocks. "
I will add-as a woman who has had sex with quite a few black men-there are a lot of men who use the term BBC in their username; on their profile and in opening messages. |
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""black" is the current polite way to refer to black people in the UK and no one is going to be offended by that.
Terms like BBC are a different matter. There's a whole culture of fetishising black men regarding their unrestrained sexuality which ultimately derives from nineteenth century colonial attitudes. . BBC is part of that culture, so some people will be offended by it.
The whole thing depends what your intended market is. If it's essentially porn, no one is likely to care about the politics. If you are being more reflective, I would avoid pornish terms like BBC.
On average, black men have the longest penises of any racial group. In my experience, i find people who object to the term BBC often want to deny this fact.
Not in my experience. It's people who object to the objectification. Lots of women don't want the most salient fact about them to be the size of their tits, ditto with black men and their penises.
Some women and black men of course don't give a damn and some revel on it, but it's entirely reasonable to object to the objectification. "
Don't have any personal experience to inform my opinion, I've never had any overwhelmingly positive features for people to repeatedly compliment me on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC? |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC? "
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC. |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC."
My friends often call me a tight, white cunt when we go out to a bar. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc 
Misuse of the term liberal  "
I assume you were being sarcastic there |
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc
Misuse of the term liberal "
Words mean what they are widely accepted as meaning. They don't have universal meanings that apply in all times and places. Social democracy is another good example. It meant you were on the far left of the socialist family a hundred years ago (the party led by lenin that seized power in 1917 was the social democratic labour party). Now it means you are on the far right and you may even disclaim the socialist label entirely. |
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc
Misuse of the term liberal
I assume you were being sarcastic there "
No just pointing out a fact. |
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc
Misuse of the term liberal
I assume you were being sarcastic there
No just pointing out a fact. "
How do we decide what the "correct" definition of liberal is? |
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"I never mention any ones race or colour unless it's relevant!
Mentioning some ones colour or race as a means to differentiate or describe shouldn't be offensive.
If you like black men, you need to use the word black!
Cleo definitely likes black men now!
Is that what her tattoo is for? I can't quite tell.
No.
Does a specific tattoo exist to convey an interest in black guys? "
Yes it's does. A Q.O.S or (queen of spades) tatt. Usually a white Q inside a black spade. K has a small one I did on her |
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc
Misuse of the term liberal
Words mean what they are widely accepted as meaning. They don't have universal meanings that apply in all times and places. Social democracy is another good example. It meant you were on the far left of the socialist family a hundred years ago (the party led by lenin that seized power in 1917 was the social democratic labour party). Now it means you are on the far right and you may even disclaim the socialist label entirely. "
Maybe in 1984 they do. The term liberal is incorrectly used by some in american politics to describe the democrat party, which is really a hillarious mistake as you well know. Since liberal is linked to liberty, you'd have to redefine both words for it to even be consistent. |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
My friends often call me a tight, white cunt when we go out to a bar. "
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"Why dont you use the race name if there from africa call them african men x"
Alot I know are from london/Croydon  their families may have originated from Africa,Caribbean etc Alot of blackmen I meet are as English as me  |
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc
Misuse of the term liberal
Words mean what they are widely accepted as meaning. They don't have universal meanings that apply in all times and places. Social democracy is another good example. It meant you were on the far left of the socialist family a hundred years ago (the party led by lenin that seized power in 1917 was the social democratic labour party). Now it means you are on the far right and you may even disclaim the socialist label entirely.
Maybe in 1984 they do. The term liberal is incorrectly used by some in american politics to describe the democrat party, which is really a hillarious mistake as you well know. Since liberal is linked to liberty, you'd have to redefine both words for it to even be consistent. "
Accidentally deleted my reply, but if your point is that to be liberal you have to be in favour of liberty, that's a bit of a circular argument. Liberty is like democracy. Everyone is in favour of it. It all depends what you mean by liberty.
Insofar as there is a.general meaning to "liberal" in the modern world, it generally denotes people broadly on the centre left like the lib dems in the UK and the Democrats in the USA. For those who take a more nineteenth century liberal view, libertarian is the usual term.
Of course you can use words however you like, but if you use them in ways that are not generally accepted, people will just misunderstand you. |
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"If you're uncomfortable referring to a black person as black then.......
As for the term bbc it's so annoying because 1 not all black men have big dicks and 2 it's almost as if it's the only selling point.
But I suppose to each their own.
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3. It also places black men into a homogenous group, appealing to a stereotype rather than nuanced personality.
As my friend Fabio said earlier some men play to the stereotype (that's fine), some white people also play it (fine too), but it's not a reference I find attractive...despite having a big, black cock |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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Still pondering this.
So, here is this nice bloke.
He’s hot.
He’s black.
He has a big cock
He’s a families solicitor.
He’s a philanthropist.
He works for charities on weekends.
He writes poetry.
He is a great tennis player.
In a purely sexual situation where you are looking for an anonymous hot black guy with a big cock, you might call him a BBC. In that circumstance you don’t care what his other talents and attributes are.
As long as you remember that he is more then the circumstance you define him by or need him to be.
Is that somewhere near it? |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I never mention any ones race or colour unless it's relevant!
Mentioning some ones colour or race as a means to differentiate or describe shouldn't be offensive.
If you like black men, you need to use the word black!
Cleo definitely likes black men now!
Is that what her tattoo is for? I can't quite tell.
No.
Does a specific tattoo exist to convey an interest in black guys?
Yes it's does. A Q.O.S or (queen of spades) tatt. Usually a white Q inside a black spade. K has a small one I did on her"
Nice. Too early for Cleo but you never know... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh please. It's only by over thinking things and being unnecessarily delicate that things become so complicated. All our black friends are BLACK. I am white - end of. "
This is how I think 100%
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I guess you can't argue with Fabio!
Personally I look at those profiles that mention bbc the same as bbw.
The one that does make me think is the expression 'blacked'.
As in 'she has already been blacked' that I have seen on some profiles. I guess it's being used as a 'badge of honour'. I've often wondered.
I'm not liberal enough to take offence for others when I have no idea of their thinking. We have been told to call people coloured, black or whatever is the current trend. It seems to be fluid over the years.
I guess in this world everyone knows what you mean by bbc, in the other world you are talking about a television channel. |
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"Still pondering this.
So, here is this nice bloke.
He’s hot.
He’s black.
He has a big cock
He’s a families solicitor.
He’s a philanthropist.
He works for charities on weekends.
He writes poetry.
He is a great tennis player.
In a purely sexual situation where you are looking for an anonymous hot black guy with a big cock, you might call him a BBC. In that circumstance you don’t care what his other talents and attributes are.
As long as you remember that he is more then the circumstance you define him by or need him to be.
Is that somewhere near it?"
sex can be dirty, plain, abusive, controlling why worry about a term. black is black. for the pc people maybe describe him as black man and bbc for his cock. Although if you describe his cock as big black cock more syllables to entice and engage the readers.
I would love to read your book. giggity  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why dont you use the race name if there from africa call them african men x
Alot I know are from london/Croydon their families may have originated from Africa,Caribbean etc Alot of blackmen I meet are as English as me "
They are Black British i adore black raced people not just black men x |
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By *ptimusDMan
over a year ago
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Don't over think it OP. You're not writing an article for The Guardian. Neither are you a politician giving an interview on the BBC that wants to please everybody **Pun Totally Intended**
You're writing a book, and so you have to have a target niche. That niche is what'll inform the term you use.
If you're referring to men who are black, regardless of cock size, then they can't be anything other than black men.
If you're trying to describe black men with big cocks, then I guess it's BBC.
Some people use the term BBC for black guys, and not all of them think all black guys have huge cocks.
It's a sex site and all sorts of objectification goes on, the vast majority have got nothing to do with colour, so personally, if people choose to see black guys as nothing other than huge cocks, that's their prerogative. Some black guys thrive on that. Those who don't like it can stay away from those who want to only see them as such.
Seriously, it's not complicated. Just use the term that describes best what you have in mind |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that |
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"Why dont you use the race name if there from africa call them african men x
Alot I know are from london/Croydon their families may have originated from Africa,Caribbean etc Alot of blackmen I meet are as English as me
They are Black British i adore black raced people not just black men x "
You sound like one those ethnicity forms
My profile name would be too huge if I put all that
I like to keep things simple x |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"If you're uncomfortable referring to a black person as black then.......
As for the term bbc it's so annoying because 1 not all black men have big dicks and 2 it's almost as if it's the only selling point.
But I suppose to each their own.
3. It also places black men into a homogenous group, appealing to a stereotype rather than nuanced personality.
As my friend Fabio said earlier some men play to the stereotype (that's fine), some white people also play it (fine too), but it's not a reference I find attractive...despite having a big, black cock "
".....despite having a big, black cock"
There you go, playing to the sterotype
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why dont you use the race name if there from africa call them african men x
That doesn’t work. What if they are 8th generation American or Jamaican!
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Eighth generation?
We're not far enough in the future for that hahaha |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that "
.....or maybe he wasn't fully erect like you thought |
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"Why don't you put men and that takes colour out the context or am I being too dense?"
No your not dense,some people just don't understand how attraction/preferences work,some woman are happy to meet lots of different types of people,it is only questioned when someone is excluded
I don't find white guys attractive,I date blackmen/mixed race men in the real world,I'm the same in swinging when it comes to the company I prefer,hence I'm always at a club or party where I know blackmen frequently go |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC."
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!! |
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By *issT45Woman
over a year ago
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"I have been writing a book narrating the real experiences Cleo and I have had as we have journeyed into this wonderful world of sexual exploration.
I've just finished a chapter describing Cleo's first experience with black guys - she enjoyed 2 BBCs a couple of weeks back.
Even though it is widespread and men seem to use it in their own profiles and it appears in literature and film etc., I still feel slightly uncomfortable about using the term Black Man and BBC and characterising people by race.
The difficulty is, there do seem to be some racial characteristics that are relevant to sex and porn - and in terms of black guys they are usually completely positive, as they are in our experience. But it isn't for me to say that these terms are acceptable.
I suppose I am hoping for reassurance here as the last thing I would want to do would be to cause offence. I also think it would be incredibly difficult - in fact probably a little pointless - describing this experience without referring to the race-specific elements of it."
Im white and in my 40s and had my first black bf at 17 ... never once did skin colour ever enter my head I just liked him ... I grew up with the same mindset... I feel sad that anyone ever has to look at a skin tone as something different about the human race |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No one cares, if you're not being racist. I've been called black, coloured, african, brown, darker, melanated, BBC, Mandingo, Zulu warrior, blah blah. I think I'm smart enough to know that we're not all the same and it's perfectly fine to objectify each other and fetishize each other and be fascinated with each other especially if you don't have many black friends. I expect some degree of mutual ignorance and wrong assumptions. I can tolerate the kind of racism that occurs in small silly thoughts and small jokes or humour, jokes about stereotypes etc. It's the insecure, hate-filled jealous fuckboy racists that repulse me. If you're not that, trust me, you're fine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that "
I call bullshit! Just because of your previous comment on a previous thread. Just so happens that the smallest cock you've seen is a black guy's? Yeah right. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The goalposts are constantly being moved by liberals and race hustlers so good luck with trying to say the right words etc "
"Race hustler"??
Lemme guess, you read Breitbart? A fan of Brexit? Think Nigel Farrage is a great man?
Sorry but, some terminology makes many of your ilk thoroughly predictable.
Also OP, I fail to see why you even care. Most people wont be bothered. Many just come on here for a hot story. The BBC moniker is used lots. Its like the BBW moniker. No one in the real world gives much of a damn...even less so considering most of the people I see using the BBC term are black anyway. |
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"The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that "
Oh look, some fear, insecurity and jealousy of people's attraction to black men also thrown in there too. Why am I somehow willing to bet that you've never actually seen a black penis...other than the ones you watch obsessively on porn of course.
As said, your "ilk" is remarkably predictable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What did those guys refer to themselves as? If they said they where black then refer to them as black, as you mentioned depends on the context of the text, your not using it in a derogatory way so I wouldn't worry about it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why dont you use the race name if there from africa call them african men x
Erm...you do know not everyone from Africa is black right?"
I know it was an example x |
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"If you're uncomfortable referring to a black person as black then.......
As for the term bbc it's so annoying because 1 not all black men have big dicks and 2 it's almost as if it's the only selling point.
But I suppose to each their own.
3. It also places black men into a homogenous group, appealing to a stereotype rather than nuanced personality.
As my friend Fabio said earlier some men play to the stereotype (that's fine), some white people also play it (fine too), but it's not a reference I find attractive...despite having a big, black cock
".....despite having a big, black cock"
There you go, playing to the sterotype
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!"
So why make the 'cock' pre-eminent? |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!
So why make the 'cock' pre-eminent?"
Because it's what I want! |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!
So why make the 'cock' pre-eminent?
Because it's what I want!"
Exactly. In this scenario it’s the sexual prowess that you want. They might also be an awesome cardiologist, and that might matter when you have your MI. But when you want to be fucked well, it’s a different set of attributes that you value. |
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"The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that
Oh look, some fear, insecurity and jealousy of people's attraction to black men also thrown in there too. Why am I somehow willing to bet that you've never actually seen a black penis...other than the ones you watch obsessively on porn of course.
As said, your "ilk" is remarkably predictable. "
If he's seen one, it was up close while on his knees. |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!"
You're defining a man by his genitals 
Then again probably the guys that like to be called BBC are all about the white pussy anyway. Could be a big timesaver, no need to do your makeup, simply pop a bag on your head |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!
You're defining a man by his genitals
Then again probably the guys that like to be called BBC are all about the white pussy anyway. Could be a big timesaver, no need to do your makeup, simply pop a bag on your head "
That's like saying men who fuck BBW's just want to fuck the fat not the woman inside it.  |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!
You're defining a man by his genitals
Then again probably the guys that like to be called BBC are all about the white pussy anyway. Could be a big timesaver, no need to do your makeup, simply pop a bag on your head
That's like saying men who fuck BBW's just want to fuck the fat not the woman inside it. "
No I think the two are different. To my knowledge thus far in this life, BBWs choose to give themselves that name. Never heard anyone ever assume it's okay to just use the term. That's not the case with BBC. Some rude people just assume it's okay to call any black guy by this. And it isn't. |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!
You're defining a man by his genitals
Then again probably the guys that like to be called BBC are all about the white pussy anyway. Could be a big timesaver, no need to do your makeup, simply pop a bag on your head
That's like saying men who fuck BBW's just want to fuck the fat not the woman inside it.
No I think the two are different. To my knowledge thus far in this life, BBWs choose to give themselves that name. Never heard anyone ever assume it's okay to just use the term. That's not the case with BBC. Some rude people just assume it's okay to call any black guy by this. And it isn't. "
Bollocks. My wife has blocked many a man who starts his messages with "I love BBW's" and that goes the same for invites to BBW night's!  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Bollocks. My wife has blocked many a man who starts his messages with "I love BBW's" and that goes the same for invites to BBW night's! "
I have done the same with about unsolicitored mail with regards to black/white events......
one party host was cheeky using my name to get other people to go........ |
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"How is BBC offensive? After all its just an abbreviation of Big Black Cock. Is BWC offensive too?
If I want to meet a Black guy with a big cock isn't it just easier to write BBC?
I guess some people prefer to be thought of as more than just their genitals. I have a tight white cunt but I'm going to be pissed if people start searching me as TWC.
But I'm just stating what I would like. It doesn't mean it's what I think of the person it's attached to, there is a difference!!
You're defining a man by his genitals
Then again probably the guys that like to be called BBC are all about the white pussy anyway. Could be a big timesaver, no need to do your makeup, simply pop a bag on your head
That's like saying men who fuck BBW's just want to fuck the fat not the woman inside it.
No I think the two are different. To my knowledge thus far in this life, BBWs choose to give themselves that name. Never heard anyone ever assume it's okay to just use the term. That's not the case with BBC. Some rude people just assume it's okay to call any black guy by this. And it isn't.
Bollocks. My wife has blocked many a man who starts his messages with "I love BBW's" and that goes the same for invites to BBW night's! "
Yeah well those are messages from TFTs and there's a lot of them. |
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"The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that
Oh look, some fear, insecurity and jealousy of people's attraction to black men also thrown in there too. Why am I somehow willing to bet that you've never actually seen a black penis...other than the ones you watch obsessively on porn of course.
As said, your "ilk" is remarkably predictable. "
Ego maniac |
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"The smallest cock ive ever seen in the flesh was actually a black guys. About 3 inches when fully erect. Just thought I would throw that one in. SBC maybe or can't i say that
Oh look, some fear, insecurity and jealousy of people's attraction to black men also thrown in there too. Why am I somehow willing to bet that you've never actually seen a black penis...other than the ones you watch obsessively on porn of course.
As said, your "ilk" is remarkably predictable. Ego maniac"
Firstly how would you know what he's seen, secondly if he's being a nob then your as bad going down to the same level. |
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