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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Because a lot of people blame the average squadie for what the Ruperts and politicians cause to happen. Instead of realising that it's a job and that following orders isn't a luxury for them they jump on the anti war propaganda machine without getting the right facts. I'm not saying that it's all due to this reason but some certainly is
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Why would it be the "Ruperts" causing the problem?
The armed forces as a whole are an instrument of the government elected by the people. The officers (aka "Ruperts" in your vernacular)) are just as much a part of the instrument as you are.
So please do not disgrace your regiment by being a doubter! I served alongside and with 2 Para and regarded them as an absolutely dedicated and professional battalion ready to respond to the request of their Queen and Country!
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By *aelawMan
over a year ago
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Yeah, I think generalizing it as 'people' may be misleading. It is only those that feel that way and strongly enough about it that share that opinion on members of the armed forces.
Personally, I do not blame those that want to protect our country. Politics, warmongering and ulterior motives are lead by those who sit on their benches and blow their steam. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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The British military isn't hated, it is the UK's most respected institution, look at data from Lord Ashcroft and it ranks higher than the BBC, the NHS, police and fire services amongst members of the general public.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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...ive noticed this, there are those that regard squaddies as thugs, or worse, particularly a small minority of foreigners here, who may have suffered at the hands of armed forces in their home countries, i think its only fair to say the average british serviceman/woman is well disciplined, respectful and more aware than some of their united nations counterparts, ....wanton distruction of civillian property....the most common cause of bad feeling, in any country, the americans are amongst the worst! |
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Not the case here, we feel that like any profession, you get a mixed bag. But the ones that have joined in a genuine attempt to make a difference are massively undervalued. Pity they’re not valued by the government they work for. A friends brother is in the paras, earning 19,000 as a newly trained recruit, recently served 6 months in the Falkland Islands. He told us they work an average of 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, which equates to £6.09 an hour. And the army wonder why they have a recruitment and retention problem 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why would it be the "Ruperts" causing the problem?
The armed forces as a whole are an instrument of the government elected by the people. The officers (aka "Ruperts" in your vernacular)) are just as much a part of the instrument as you are.
So please do not disgrace your regiment by being a doubter! I served alongside and with 2 Para and regarded them as an absolutely dedicated and professional battalion ready to respond to the request of their Queen and Country!
Sorry... A nerve was touched there!"
I don't include all ruperts in this but mainly the upper echelons who engage with the cabinet etc. As a former squadie I am very proud of the years I dedicated to the service of my country and I am now hopefully moving into the charitable sector to work with former squadies with problems readjusting to civi street etc.
Sorry I know I did generalise a bit in my original post but it was more a poorly worded rant aimed at the people who I think are to blame.
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
"Hated so much" ?? By whom?
I would suggest that within our country the Army and all ranks within are respected highly. And rightly so.
The officers are highly trained and highly regarded throughout the free world (it takes a special kind of person to survive then pass out after a year at Sandhurst). The squaddies (no disrespect meant in the name here) and NCO's are a fantastic core of men and women who undertake amazing tasks in difficult and downright dangerous circumstances.
I really do not understand the question you ask. Hated perhaps by the enemy who the Armed Forces have beaten? Hated by civilians who weren't up to the job and sour grapes? Hated by the few in our society who not only hate the forces but hate everything our country stands for?
Rest assured, the British Army, as well as all the British armed forces are very highly regarded by any reasonable and decent people here in the UK.
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By *owieladMan
over a year ago
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because in some peoples minds they have a vision of what a squaddie is, they don't see some of the arduous, challenging, ridiculously political situations they have to deal with. They also don't see when they deal with the recent devastation of the Caribbean because they have a view! I know many forces lads and without exception they are a quite inspiring bunch, yes they like to party and party hard, but then they might get one weekend in 3 months to do that when most of us can go out many times a week if not over 3 months! |
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over a year ago
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‘We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm’
A quote sometimes attributed to George Orwell |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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I personally have a lot of respect for the army, and the battles both physical and mental that many endure for the sake of the country.
I don't actually agree with war but I do know we have to protect ourselves.
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, "
No hatred here but suggest that you read the book "Exposing lies of the Empire" by Andre Vltchek
to open your eyes as to what is going on and what has gone on. Soldiers are just the pawns in game. |
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
Weirdly I was accused of that last night. No idea why but i wonder if there's a mh issue somewhere. |
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"If you look at the atrocities over the centuries against many countries and ppls you would get your answer"
Would you care to expand this and actually make a point rather than just a vauge statement that is neither provable nor disprovable? |
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"but I do know we have to protect ourselves.
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So what exactly have we been protecting ourselves from since 1945?
Every conflict since has been as a result of British Imperialism. It has nothing to do with protecting ourselves, war is good for business. The CIA and MI5 create fake enemies, start wars and the military industrial complex cleans up.
America even created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
I have no hatred of the army just feel sorry for those who believe that they are protecting us when in fact they are dying for the corporations and elite who benefit. |
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"but I do know we have to protect ourselves.
So what exactly have we been protecting ourselves from since 1945?
Every conflict since has been as a result of British Imperialism. It has nothing to do with protecting ourselves, war is good for business. The CIA and MI5 create fake enemies, start wars and the military industrial complex cleans up.
America even created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
I have no hatred of the army just feel sorry for those who believe that they are protecting us when in fact they are dying for the corporations and elite who benefit."
That’s a very negative and misleading view on it. I have friends from all over the world, many of which have a military presence from the U.K. and/or the US. The overwhelming view from them is that they are greatful for our help and support. Nothing to do with imperialism
Also the conspiracy that America created al qaeda simply isn’t true. That situation is so unbelievably complex that i wont even try to explain it here. |
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Truthfully I don’t care if the army are hated or not I was in the infantry for 14 years and I’m proud to of served with some of the bravest men I know, been Ireland Iraq twice Afghanistan 3 times lost a lot of good friends who paid the ultimate sacrifice and a lot with life changing injuries, I’m proud to of served the British Army and if even doesn’t like the army that’s there problem |
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That’s a very negative and misleading view on it. I have friends from all over the world, many of which have a military presence from the U.K. and/or the US. The overwhelming view from them is that they are greatful for our help and support. Nothing to do with imperialism
Also the conspiracy that America created al qaeda simply isn’t true. That situation is so unbelievably complex that i wont even try to explain it here."
It's the truth but most people are blinded to it by the propaganda of the western 'Empire'. You don't need to explain it thank you.
Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan. |
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That’s a very negative and misleading view on it. I have friends from all over the world, many of which have a military presence from the U.K. and/or the US. The overwhelming view from them is that they are greatful for our help and support. Nothing to do with imperialism
Also the conspiracy that America created al qaeda simply isn’t true. That situation is so unbelievably complex that i wont even try to explain it here.
It's the truth but most people are blinded to it by the propaganda of the western 'Empire'. You don't need to explain it thank you.
Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan."
This is after the american government invented AIDS but before it blew up the twin towers, right? |
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which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, ."
Nice try, but no cigar. It means the base or foundation, not database.
You're also implying the CIA deliberately founded Al Qaeda. They didn't, they armed militants against the known enemy of the time (USSR). The same personnel and arms were then used under Bin Laden against the west.
A fuck up, but no conspiracy. |
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which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, .
Nice try, but no cigar. It means the base or foundation, not database.
You're also implying the CIA deliberately founded Al Qaeda. They didn't, they armed militants against the known enemy of the time (USSR). The same personnel and arms were then used under Bin Laden against the west.
A fuck up, but no conspiracy."
It's annoying how the truth never quite fits into these nice and tidy ideological boxes that some people love to believe in. The world would be so much easier to understand if it did. |
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"but I do know we have to protect ourselves.
So what exactly have we been protecting ourselves from since 1945?
Every conflict since has been as a result of British Imperialism. It has nothing to do with protecting ourselves, war is good for business. The CIA and MI5 create fake enemies, start wars and the military industrial complex cleans up.
America even created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
I have no hatred of the army just feel sorry for those who believe that they are protecting us when in fact they are dying for the corporations and elite who benefit."
Sorry but al-qaeda wasn't formed by the Americans for anything to do with Iran or oil. It was formed by bin Laden and equipped by the cia during the Afghan Russian war.
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By (user no longer on site)
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That’s a very negative and misleading view on it. I have friends from all over the world, many of which have a military presence from the U.K. and/or the US. The overwhelming view from them is that they are greatful for our help and support. Nothing to do with imperialism
Also the conspiracy that America created al qaeda simply isn’t true. That situation is so unbelievably complex that i wont even try to explain it here.
It's the truth but most people are blinded to it by the propaganda of the western 'Empire'. You don't need to explain it thank you.
Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan."
Also al-qaeda translates to the Base. Not the database |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"....usless bit of trivia for you.....did you know, that more special forces guys died from suicide, than were killed during the falklands war??
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Research from the King's Centre for Military Health Research has proven that not to be the case. If you are interested in military health research I would recommend the Veterans and Families Research Hub which is run by the Forces in Mind Trust at Anglia Ruskin university. Its a global repository of military research so takes the best research from around the world. |
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
I don't hate the army, I would join them in the event of war. Or if the career fails. I think they behaviour of the average squaddie is what people assume all are like. We need the army.
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
The queen is still a cunt though  |
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Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth. |
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Probably because a few absolute shitheads sadly give all of you a bad name.
I know what an amazing job you all do and all of that but having spent three years near Aldershot watching squaddie scum act like twats, and hearing in the news about the blatant cover ups over sexual abuse of young soldiers, it does sadly cast a shadow over your profession.
Which is a shame for all of you genuine brave people who aren’t like that.
Like homeless people though, you can never tell. |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth. "
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan? |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth. "
This makes no sense, especially considering CHINA is the country that benefits most from middle eastern oil. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated"
In Kate Adie's book The Kindness of Strangers, she speaks to a soldier in the first Gulf War. Asking him why he's there and he say 'It's about the oil innit'.
I knew the primary reason was to secure oil supplies. I might of been a squaddie, but I wasn't stupid. It didn't seem like a bad thing to give a nasty dictator a bloody nose either.
I also know why I was sent to Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq. The reasons are manifold for wars, but not once I was manipulated.
As for governments being in the pocket of big business. Maybe there is an element of that, but by and large the donations to big parties are pretty well scrutinised.
The biggest threat to democracy though is not having a free press. So all the time you get your news from free websites or don't buy a TV license because you only watch Netflix you are contributing to the death of properly funded investigative journalism. Once the news output comes from a source that relies solely on advertising then the big corporations truly have the power to manipulate. |
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I'm ex army served alongside 2 para out of Palace Bks 94 too 95 anyone in this country who hates the Army I'm my mind has no right to live in it and are downright traitors and are generally cultural Marxist anti British trash. |
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"I'm ex army served alongside 2 para out of Palace Bks 94 too 95 anyone in this country who hates the Army I'm my mind has no right to live in it and are downright traitors and are generally cultural Marxist anti British trash. "
Or suffering from "white guilt" syndrome |
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""The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated"
In Kate Adie's book The Kindness of Strangers, she speaks to a soldier in the first Gulf War. Asking him why he's there and he say 'It's about the oil innit'.
I knew the primary reason was to secure oil supplies. I might of been a squaddie, but I wasn't stupid. It didn't seem like a bad thing to give a nasty dictator a bloody nose either.
I also know why I was sent to Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq. The reasons are manifold for wars, but not once I was manipulated.
As for governments being in the pocket of big business. Maybe there is an element of that, but by and large the donations to big parties are pretty well scrutinised.
The biggest threat to democracy though is not having a free press. So all the time you get your news from free websites or don't buy a TV license because you only watch Netflix you are contributing to the death of properly funded investigative journalism. Once the news output comes from a source that relies solely on advertising then the big corporations truly have the power to manipulate."
So the B.B.C. aren't corrupt?? LOL |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
Pretty sure it was opium production, refined into heroin for export to the west worth billions. Production now is on a much larger scale than pre war...
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan? "
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan? "
Pretty sure it was opium production, refined into heroin for export to the west worth billions. Production now is on a much larger scale than pre war...
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan?
Pretty sure it was opium production, refined into heroin for export to the west worth billions. Production now is on a much larger scale than pre war...
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Ok so the oil companies set up a war in afghanistan, which was happily growing plenty of opium, so that they could grow more opium? Because that's easier than just buying some land and growing it yourself  |
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"....usless bit of trivia for you.....did you know, that more special forces guys died from suicide, than were killed during the falklands war??
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I believe you have your info mixed up.
The correct info is that more soldiers who fought in the Falklands Conflict have committed suicide than were actually killed in the conflict itself.
Its not limited to just Special Forces personnel. |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan?
Pretty sure it was opium production, refined into heroin for export to the west worth billions. Production now is on a much larger scale than pre war...
Ok so the oil companies set up a war in afghanistan, which was happily growing plenty of opium, so that they could grow more opium? Because that's easier than just buying some land and growing it yourself "
You can't have a war on drugs and grow opium in your own country that's just common sense personally I think it's quite clever |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan?
Pretty sure it was opium production, refined into heroin for export to the west worth billions. Production now is on a much larger scale than pre war...
Ok so the oil companies set up a war in afghanistan, which was happily growing plenty of opium, so that they could grow more opium? Because that's easier than just buying some land and growing it yourself You can't have a war on drugs and grow opium in your own country that's just common sense personally I think it's quite clever"
Given the Taliban were quite happy to grow opium, it's a rather strange arguement that a war was necessary to increase production. I'm pretty sure they would have been happy with a 50:50 stake in the 'shell-taliban poppy inc.' |
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
Didn’t think it was?
I have every respect for the armed forces and the job they do - and so does everyone I know!
Doubt charities like Help The Heroes would’ve raised so much if ‘everybody hated’ the forces! X |
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"but I do know we have to protect ourselves.
So what exactly have we been protecting ourselves from since 1945?
Every conflict since has been as a result of British Imperialism. It has nothing to do with protecting ourselves, war is good for business. The CIA and MI5 create fake enemies, start wars and the military industrial complex cleans up.
America even created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
I have no hatred of the army just feel sorry for those who believe that they are protecting us when in fact they are dying for the corporations and elite who benefit.
Sorry but al-qaeda wasn't formed by the Americans for anything to do with Iran or oil. It was formed by bin Laden and equipped by the cia during the Afghan Russian war.
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The Afghan war was about Oil though. It still is. One of the big issues between the Taliban and what used to be called the Northern Alliance is over the oil pipeline.
Why do you think we attacked Iraq after 911 which was carried out and funded by Saudis? |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
What was the value of natural resources 'stolen' from Afghanistan?
Pretty sure it was opium production, refined into heroin for export to the west worth billions. Production now is on a much larger scale than pre war...
Ok so the oil companies set up a war in afghanistan, which was happily growing plenty of opium, so that they could grow more opium? Because that's easier than just buying some land and growing it yourself You can't have a war on drugs and grow opium in your own country that's just common sense personally I think it's quite clever
Given the Taliban were quite happy to grow opium, it's a rather strange arguement that a war was necessary to increase production. I'm pretty sure they would have been happy with a 50:50 stake in the 'shell-taliban poppy inc.'"
The war had nothing to do with heroin production. It just turned out to be a bonus with more money to be made. It was more about overthrowing the government and replacing it with puppets and installing a central bank. Oh, and making sure the oil can only be traded in dollars... which instantly puts that country in debt... |
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"I'm ex army served alongside 2 para out of Palace Bks 94 too 95 anyone in this country who hates the Army I'm my mind has no right to live in it and are downright traitors and are generally cultural Marxist anti British trash.
Or suffering from "white guilt" syndrome "
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"Got friends in 2para a great bunch of guys and respectful .love the British army xx"
I moved from 2para to 1para. Loved my time in both and would love to still be serving now. Met some of the best guys in the forces.
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Nothing but respect for the Para’s escpecially. Done a few training sessions with some in Altcar and I consider myself in good physical shape and quite healthy but they well and truly put me to shame on the running aspect of it. They didn’t even break a sweat. |
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"Nothing but respect for the Para’s escpecially. Done a few training sessions with some in Altcar and I consider myself in good physical shape and quite healthy but they well and truly put me to shame on the running aspect of it. They didn’t even break a sweat."
Yeah I know in my day I could easily do a bit and still not break sweat. Not so fit now lol
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
Paranoid delusion. The armed forces aren't hated, but like to believe they are, even as they enjoy privilege and position quite beyond the worth or personal qualities of the individuals involved.
If they spent less time obsessing about their place in society, and more time ensuring everyone who leaves the forces has a place in society, and a bed to sleep in at night, we might get somewhere. |
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . Paranoid delusion. The armed forces aren't hated, but like to believe they are, even as they enjoy privilege and position quite beyond the worth or personal qualities of the individuals involved.
If they spent less time obsessing about their place in society, and more time ensuring everyone who leaves the forces has a place in society, and a bed to sleep in at night, we might get somewhere."
Um... aren’t you proving his point? Seems like you hate them |
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . "
Try reading "Tommy" by Rudyard Kipling.
It's a wonderful description of how soldiers are treated. Still feels true. So nothing new.
But some squaddies don't help themselves. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . Paranoid delusion. The armed forces aren't hated, but like to believe they are, even as they enjoy privilege and position quite beyond the worth or personal qualities of the individuals involved.
If they spent less time obsessing about their place in society, and more time ensuring everyone who leaves the forces has a place in society, and a bed to sleep in at night, we might get somewhere."
I think that the military, the government and the 3rd sector do more to support service leavers, veterans and their families, than any other occupation. |
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I love and respect our armed forces.
Currently have a male friend, ex army air corps and SAS. He ticks all my boxes! He doesn't often talk about his job but when he does I am both shocked, humbled and have the deepest respect for him and all the armed forces. |
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I`m quite patriotic and have great respect for the armed forces. That said, I have to say that the dozen or so people I know who went in the forces, without exception, were all either trouble causers at school or truants that got no qualifications. The forces instilled discipline in them, for sure,but I have already noticed 3 or 4 who came out have now reverted to type agaion i.e. bully boys or trouble causers - can a leopard actually change its spots? |
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"Why is it the british army is hated so much, just spent an evening with my best mate , last night of freedom . My guess middle east . Paranoid delusion. The armed forces aren't hated, but like to believe they are, even as they enjoy privilege and position quite beyond the worth or personal qualities of the individuals involved.
If they spent less time obsessing about their place in society, and more time ensuring everyone who leaves the forces has a place in society, and a bed to sleep in at night, we might get somewhere.
Um... aren’t you proving his point? Seems like you hate them"
Nope - you're doing what he probably does - regarding criticism as hatred. |
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"I`m quite patriotic and have great respect for the armed forces. That said, I have to say that the dozen or so people I know who went in the forces, without exception, were all either trouble causers at school or truants that got no qualifications. The forces instilled discipline in them, for sure,but I have already noticed 3 or 4 who came out have now reverted to type agaion i.e. bully boys or trouble causers - can a leopard actually change its spots?"
Yeah they can tbh. I came out of school with all my gcse's but found I didn't fit the normal work culture. I was on building sites and tried to use the manual labour side of the job to get rid of excess energy etc but couldn't. Got in trouble most weekends with the police to the point I was known by them and on first name terms with a lot. Joined the forces and got my stuff together. Found a way to combat the inner beast. When I got medical discharged I thought I'd be back to my old ways but I have not regressed back to them. Yes a lot of squaddies do come from broken homes, naughty in school etc but the majority when they come back to civilian life have both gained the skills to fit in and are a much more rounded individual. It just seems that civilian life has forgot them and sometimes it causes problems.
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"Ultrinque paratus. 88-93, what were you doing ?"
Started in 96 left in 08. Been to some great places lol went to Iraq, Afghanistan. Some others which weren't so nice. Plenty of jungle training in Belize and central America.
Best part was always getting back to the depot (not aldershot but catterick).
You??
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth. "
Exactly this. People need to wake up to what is going on |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
Exactly this. People need to wake up to what is going on"
As a bit of a life hack, 'wake up' is a phrase that only sounds good to conspiracy theorists. |
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Browning barracks aldershot back then brother, odds are you've spent a lot of time in same mud as all of us have and I wouldn't change a thing no matter how hard it was. My son's just passed out in another regiment and the pride I felt at his parade was unbelievable the piss up we had was outrageous . Brought it all back |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
Exactly this. People need to wake up to what is going on
As a bit of a life hack, 'wake up' is a phrase that only sounds good to conspiracy theorists."
The term “conspiracy theorist” was invented by the CIA and given to anyone questioning the official version of the JFK assassination, to discredit them. To this day the CIA are still covering up what really happened (documents not being realeased 30 years on). Anyone that blindly believes what they are told by governments or mainstream media IMO are frankly idiots... |
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"Browning barracks aldershot back then brother, odds are you've spent a lot of time in same mud as all of us have and I wouldn't change a thing no matter how hard it was. My son's just passed out in another regiment and the pride I felt at his parade was unbelievable the piss up we had was outrageous . Brought it all back "
To right brother. Lol yup plenty of yomping through the mud of some shit hole or another, but it was the lads you were with that got you through it.
I bet you are so proud of him. What reg has he gone to??
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Ex military here, and to the haters I just say spend a day in the boot's of a guy on the ground. The lad's and lasses that sign up take an oath and sign a blank cheque that sadly can include loss of life.
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over a year ago
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"Reme hes got his head screwed on right . He don't get that off me !!!"
Good lad getting a trade under his belt. Keep saying the same to my lad who's 14 and wants to be a para.
It's the one thing in life you never believe you will miss till you leave. Sometimes wish I was back in and stuck in the shit again. Ahhhhhhhh good times
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over a year ago
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"I think it's guys posting that they're in the army to try to get laid is what pisses some people off"
But surely that shouldn't matter? And also guys who have really been in know when others a lying and using the old I'm a squaddie trick to get laid.
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"Damn right,to old now tho. Hopefully a lot wiser too "
Hahaha yeah I couldn't keep up with them youngsters now. Best days of your life though in the naffi bar playing murderball or human kerplunk lol
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"I think it's guys posting that they're in the army to try to get laid is what pisses some people off
But surely that shouldn't matter? And also guys who have really been in know when others a lying and using the old I'm a squaddie trick to get laid.
M"
I did say some,
It's pretty low to pretend to be in the forces to get laid
Some good videos on you tube of Americans being outed in public for not being in the forces.
Badges in wrong places etc etc. |
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"Big business and particularly the oil firms own the giverment of the day through "party donations". Big buisness through the government use the British Army, Air Force and Navy to invade and help steal the natural resources of that country. The brave men and women of our armed services and conned and manipulated into thinking their protecting this country but the truth is invading a poor Muslim country puts us all in more danger from terrorism. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but it's the truth.
Exactly this. People need to wake up to what is going on
As a bit of a life hack, 'wake up' is a phrase that only sounds good to conspiracy theorists.
The term “conspiracy theorist” was invented by the CIA and given to anyone questioning the official version of the JFK assassination, to discredit them. To this day the CIA are still covering up what really happened (documents not being realeased 30 years on). Anyone that blindly believes what they are told by governments or mainstream media IMO are frankly idiots..."
My point remains that 'wake up', used in political context, is almost the exclusively used by conspiracy theorists. Whether or not you think conspiracy theorist is a good or bad thing is another matter. I actually agree with your final sentence, although I'd add that anyone who blindly believes in YouTube videos and Michael Moore documentaries is also an idiot. |
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over a year ago
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"Hahaha you know it. Outrageous "
Hahaha especially when it turns rough and into fire murderball!!!
Even better going into town in a mob and bumping into some spunkbubbles from the marines lol
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over a year ago
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"I think it's guys posting that they're in the army to try to get laid is what pisses some people off
But surely that shouldn't matter? And also guys who have really been in know when others a lying and using the old I'm a squaddie trick to get laid.
M
I did say some,
It's pretty low to pretend to be in the forces to get laid
Some good videos on you tube of Americans being outed in public for not being in the forces.
Badges in wrong places etc etc."
Yeah I know you did buddy.
Most squaddies are honest and very nice if you are straight with them.
Yeah I've seen some of them videos. Don't a outing a few times myself with lads who claimed to be paras.
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"I think it's guys posting that they're in the army to try to get laid is what pisses some people off
But surely that shouldn't matter? And also guys who have really been in know when others a lying and using the old I'm a squaddie trick to get laid.
M
I did say some,
It's pretty low to pretend to be in the forces to get laid
Some good videos on you tube of Americans being outed in public for not being in the forces.
Badges in wrong places etc etc.
Yeah I know you did buddy.
Most squaddies are honest and very nice if you are straight with them.
Yeah I've seen some of them videos. Don't a outing a few times myself with lads who claimed to be paras.
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Painful memories there . Still got lumps on me head from back then I think. Bootnecks on the all arms knew what they were getting before it started . Good mate of mine was in and told me they all loved it. Load of bollocks |
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"I think it's guys posting that they're in the army to try to get laid is what pisses some people off
But surely that shouldn't matter? And also guys who have really been in know when others a lying and using the old I'm a squaddie trick to get laid.
M
I did say some,
It's pretty low to pretend to be in the forces to get laid
Some good videos on you tube of Americans being outed in public for not being in the forces.
Badges in wrong places etc etc.
Yeah I know you did buddy.
Most squaddies are honest and very nice if you are straight with them.
Yeah I've seen some of them videos. Don't a outing a few times myself with lads who claimed to be paras.
M
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Being in the paras was the best job I ever had and it got me on the straight and narrow. Made me a man and got me to understand why I was wired the way I am.
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"Painful memories there . Still got lumps on me head from back then I think. Bootnecks on the all arms knew what they were getting before it started . Good mate of mine was in and told me they all loved it. Load of bollocks "
Hahaha I remember breaking my best mates ankle with my face. I ended up with a bust nose and eye socket but both of us were so pie eyed we just carried on lol.
Do you get to any reunions?
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Nah I have a few mates up here who were in with me. I was happy to get out before I went full on barmy army. Civvy head got turned on and never been off. When I signed off I couldn't wait for that year to pass . I miss it but don't regret getting out when I did |
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"Nah I have a few mates up here who were in with me. I was happy to get out before I went full on barmy army. Civvy head got turned on and never been off. When I signed off I couldn't wait for that year to pass . I miss it but don't regret getting out when I did "
Yeah I get that. I miss a lot of things but we did get some shitty jobs. The moug reminds me of one I did in 1para.
Think if I hadn't been medically discharged I would have stayed in for my 22s.
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Not me I was a civvy in disguise I think. It's a good life and let's face it every regiment on this planet thinks it's special but we fuckin know ours is. Knowing I spent 5 years in there was enough for me |
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"Not me I was a civvy in disguise I think. It's a good life and let's face it every regiment on this planet thinks it's special but we fuckin know ours is. Knowing I spent 5 years in there was enough for me "
To right ours is special. We're the only ones who get to do spec ops!! Fucking best reg in the world wears pegasus.
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In one . Right I'm off the boozer to finish getting hammered. Good chatting to you brother . Get the nearest pub and get full on fuckin hammered. I'll be speaking Greek later I'm gonna be that d*unk |
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"In one . Right I'm off the boozer to finish getting hammered. Good chatting to you brother . Get the nearest pub and get full on fuckin hammered. I'll be speaking Greek later I'm gonna be that d*unk"
Have a good one brother and remember paras never die.
Speak soon buddy
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over a year ago
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"Just rang a couple of me mates ones ex 4 para ones ex 3 light infantry we gonna get d*unk as skunks . Don't think I'll be going work tomorrow now "
Hahaha sounds like a quality night on the lash
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Nice try, but no cigar. It means the base or foundation, not database.
You're also implying the CIA deliberately founded Al Qaeda. They didn't, they armed militants against the known enemy of the time (USSR). The same personnel and arms were then used under Bin Laden against the west.
A fuck up, but no conspiracy."
It was former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook (and I guess he knew more than you do having access to secret intelligence), not me, who wrote in the Guardian on the 8th July 2005
"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west. "
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"Not the case here, we feel that like any profession, you get a mixed bag. But the ones that have joined in a genuine attempt to make a difference are massively undervalued. Pity they’re not valued by the government they work for. A friends brother is in the paras, earning 19,000 as a newly trained recruit, recently served 6 months in the Falkland Islands. He told us they work an average of 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, which equates to £6.09 an hour. And the army wonder why they have a recruitment and retention problem
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You wouldnt join for the cash. I was on a LOT less than £6.09 when I was in and worked a LOT more than 10 x 6. I'd do it all again, best time of my life |
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"Not the case here, we feel that like any profession, you get a mixed bag. But the ones that have joined in a genuine attempt to make a difference are massively undervalued. Pity they’re not valued by the government they work for. A friends brother is in the paras, earning 19,000 as a newly trained recruit, recently served 6 months in the Falkland Islands. He told us they work an average of 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, which equates to £6.09 an hour. And the army wonder why they have a recruitment and retention problem
You wouldnt join for the cash. I was on a LOT less than £6.09 when I was in and worked a LOT more than 10 x 6. I'd do it all again, best time of my life"
You don't join for the money cos it's shit pay but the pride you feel and the friends you make are what it's all about
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So the B.B.C. aren't corrupt?? LOL
Can you provide substantial evidence of political corruption at the BBC?"
I think maybe the OP meant obvious left wing bias rather than political corruption |
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Yeah I think c coy 4 para was our local till it closed. Lots of lads from here went to regular para from 4th bn. All good lads and switched on too. Barmy as fuck, up for anything airborne |
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One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot. |
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over a year ago
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"One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot."
NO! They should not be in civies. They do and should wear the uniform with pride. We do not give in to "radicalised idiots." |
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"One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot."
I can see your point but I always wore my uniform with pride and would never back down to any pressure not to.
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"One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot."
The used to insist on civies being worn during the troubles, even in Germany.
It did not stop the attacks and it was not generally liked.
Even in civvies, squaddies still stick out and are usually instantly recognisable for who they are. |
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Our boys are sent to do a job they have been trained for ..
The government pulls the strings ...
Our boys go where they are told to go, they don't club together and decide what job they do, they do the job they are told to do even if they agree or not ...
I've nothing but respect for the boys in our armed forces x |
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"One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot.
The used to insist on civies being worn during the troubles, even in Germany.
It did not stop the attacks and it was not generally liked.
Even in civvies, squaddies still stick out and are usually instantly recognisable for who they are. "
Most have the squaddie haircut for starters. Then there's the way you carry yourself. I Always have and always will look like a squaddie.
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"Our boys are sent to do a job they have been trained for ..
The government pulls the strings ...
Our boys go where they are told to go, they don't club together and decide what job they do, they do the job they are told to do even if they agree or not ...
I've nothing but respect for the boys in our armed forces x"
Correct we don't get to pick what wars we fight or even who we fight for. But the British armed forces are the best in the world bar nine.
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"I have nothing but love, respect and admiration for our Armed Forces. My Husband was military and they all do an incredible job "
He wasn't based at Stirling lines Hereford was he???
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"I have nothing but love, respect and admiration for our Armed Forces. My Husband was military and they all do an incredible job
He wasn't based at Stirling lines Hereford was he???
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"I have nothing but love, respect and admiration for our Armed Forces. My Husband was military and they all do an incredible job
He wasn't based at Stirling lines Hereford was he???
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Ha "
Say no more lol
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"T loves to help our hero’s out where possible. She’s always loved meeting with hot squaddies. An me being the gent I am I fully encourage her to do her bit for queen and country  "
Good good the lads always need a morale boost lol
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Haven't read this thread won't to be honest. Your a fu**ing disgrace OP and ought to be ashamed of yourself.
As a man who served, go f**k yourself and stop exploiting our armed forces for profile views.
Walters like you really get under my f**king skin.
That is all. |
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over a year ago
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"Haven't read this thread won't to be honest. Your a fu**ing disgrace OP and ought to be ashamed of yourself.
As a man who served, go f**k yourself and stop exploiting our armed forces for profile views.
Walters like you really get under my f**king skin.
That is all."
tell us what you really think |
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"Haven't read this thread won't to be honest. Your a fu**ing disgrace OP and ought to be ashamed of yourself.
As a man who served, go f**k yourself and stop exploiting our armed forces for profile views.
Walters like you really get under my f**king skin.
That is all."
A disgrace? |
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"Haven't read this thread won't to be honest. Your a fu**ing disgrace OP and ought to be ashamed of yourself.
As a man who served, go f**k yourself and stop exploiting our armed forces for profile views.
Walters like you really get under my f**king skin.
That is all."
It was a honest question asked by the op. The thread has now been moved along to showing respect for our armed forces.
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"Haven't read this thread won't to be honest. Your a fu**ing disgrace OP and ought to be ashamed of yourself.
As a man who served, go f**k yourself and stop exploiting our armed forces for profile views.
Walters like you really get under my f**king skin.
That is all."
Are you maybe being a little harsh :-/
Maybe it's a young lad just started training and maybe feeling a little lost who started this thread :-/ |
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"Haven't read this thread won't to be honest. Your a fu**ing disgrace OP and ought to be ashamed of yourself.
As a man who served, go f**k yourself and stop exploiting our armed forces for profile views.
Walters like you really get under my f**king skin.
That is all.
Are you maybe being a little harsh :-/
Maybe it's a young lad just started training and maybe feeling a little lost who started this thread :-/"
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Would like to say I joined up for some noble reason but both my Parents were in the Army (met there) and when I left school no chance of a job.
I was a terrible soldier for the first 6 weeks of basic, the training Staff were trying to get rid of me until, one day on the ranges wearing an NBC suit my rounds grouping were almost perfect, on the way back a corporal said ‘you may now have something to offer the British Army’ nicest thing anyone had said to that point. I got better over time and passed out with my Mates.
Some lads I served with, wouldn’t want them anywhere near my Sister or trust them with my life savings but they were the minority the rest, well if I fell they picked me up literally and figuratively, if I was suffering a wet was offered or a tinny was given (off duty that is) and if anyone threatened me by god I had a whole regiment behind my back and those guys don’t run away.
Remembrance soon don’t forget your poppy |
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Grandfather ex army .a few Uncles plus my dad brother and me. Big cousin 2 para Falklands etc. Other cousin and rest of us all over the place. Dad's brother RUC but the ira bastard's killed him in 82. |
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"Would like to say I joined up for some noble reason but both my Parents were in the Army (met there) and when I left school no chance of a job.
I was a terrible soldier for the first 6 weeks of basic, the training Staff were trying to get rid of me until, one day on the ranges wearing an NBC suit my rounds grouping were almost perfect, on the way back a corporal said ‘you may now have something to offer the British Army’ nicest thing anyone had said to that point. I got better over time and passed out with my Mates.
Some lads I served with, wouldn’t want them anywhere near my Sister or trust them with my life savings but they were the minority the rest, well if I fell they picked me up literally and figuratively, if I was suffering a wet was offered or a tinny was given (off duty that is) and if anyone threatened me by god I had a whole regiment behind my back and those guys don’t run away.
Remembrance soon don’t forget your poppy "
I was lucky that my grandad used to instill army cores and values in me from a young age. Made me bull my boots and press my cadets uniform with starch on the collar. I took to service like a duck to water. And like you said most of the guys would help you out of anything at all.
I always have my poppy and a wreath for my grandad
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"Grandfather ex army .a few Uncles plus my dad brother and me. Big cousin 2 para Falklands etc. Other cousin and rest of us all over the place. Dad's brother RUC but the ira bastard's killed him in 82."
Wow big respect to your uncle in 2para in the Falklands. They really got a sh*t detail there.
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"Grandfather ex army .a few Uncles plus my dad brother and me. Big cousin 2 para Falklands etc. Other cousin and rest of us all over the place. Dad's brother RUC but the ira bastard's killed him in 82.
Wow big respect to your uncle in 2para in the Falklands. They really got a sh*t detail there.
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"Grandfather ex army .a few Uncles plus my dad brother and me. Big cousin 2 para Falklands etc. Other cousin and rest of us all over the place. Dad's brother RUC but the ira bastard's killed him in 82.
Wow big respect to your uncle in 2para in the Falklands. They really got a sh*t detail there.
M cousin "
I do apologise for that. Your big cousin.
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"but I do know we have to protect ourselves.
So what exactly have we been protecting ourselves from since 1945?
Every conflict since has been as a result of British Imperialism. It has nothing to do with protecting ourselves, war is good for business. The CIA and MI5 create fake enemies, start wars and the military industrial complex cleans up.
America even created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
I have no hatred of the army just feel sorry for those who believe that they are protecting us when in fact they are dying for the corporations and elite who benefit."
Because Iraq and Afghanistan was all about the oil and it has given us a lot of influence in the area? |
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Can we get off the whole imperialistic theme please. I'd rather try and keep it positive if possible as it can be hard to go to a conflict zone when you don't agree with it. But it's your job and you don't get the luxury to say no
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"One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot.
I can see your point but I always wore my uniform with pride and would never back down to any pressure not to.
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Like I said it is my only moan. I remember during the troubles, military oersonel being advised to wear civvies when out and about. I thought that was a good idea. |
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"One of the women I used to work with went to a wedding, the groom was in the army.
In her words.
They were loud, boisterous at times. However they looked after each other, were the most pleasant and respectful of all the guests at the wddding.
She thought they would be troublemakers, actually they stopped one or two incidents from the half lint brigade from escalating.
So not everyone dislikes the forces.
My only moan is that they should be in civvies when out and about, why make yourself a target for some radicalized idiot.
I can see your point but I always wore my uniform with pride and would never back down to any pressure not to.
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Like I said it is my only moan. I remember during the troubles, military oersonel being advised to wear civvies when out and about. I thought that was a good idea."
Yeah I can see what you mean
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That’s a very negative and misleading view on it. I have friends from all over the world, many of which have a military presence from the U.K. and/or the US. The overwhelming view from them is that they are greatful for our help and support. Nothing to do with imperialism
Also the conspiracy that America created al qaeda simply isn’t true. That situation is so unbelievably complex that i wont even try to explain it here.
It's the truth but most people are blinded to it by the propaganda of the western 'Empire'. You don't need to explain it thank you.
Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan."
Lol and how would you know it's the truth. |
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"Why is always the Para's ? Surely the RAF Regt is the one to Walt about "
I'm sure you understand the RAF Reg stand shoulder to shoulder with the Marines and Paras.
I mean that "the 5 mile of death" that has to be done once a year must be physically and mentally brutal.
To all that have served or still serving it's our right to rip each other to death.
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As my reply earlier we fuckin know we are. If we weren't why have an all arms P company ? Why so many wanting to pass the basic standard ?. Para wings on your arm don't make a paratrooper. It's that decision you make before you go recruiting office |
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