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Bring a Girl and Dine Free ... or time for a real club?
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By *risee OP TV/TS
over a year ago
MacKay |
Was having a great discussion in the General Chat earlier this morning about clubs and parties and 'contribution' charges.
Most clubs charge single males more than couples and often single girls get in free. Equality Act 2010 aside, for one moment.
What bothered me was the disparity in pricing:
CPLS £20 SINGLE MALES £30 FEMALES £10
in an ad I saw today. What this is in fact saying is 'A Male is charged £30, but if you bring a female we'll pay you £10 for her to enter'
Some clubs I've attended charge high entry for men and pay a handful of girls to engage all the single men all night. A club offers entry to couples or single girls for handing over a bottle of grog.
I have to admit, I'm turned off by most clubs overall in the UK, at least the ones I've experienced or the ones I can clearly see pay women to entertain the high paying men.
I won't name the clubs, I see little point and there clearly is a market for this - it probably also keeps the catfish males off the private swingers scene to a degree.
I face an unusual situation where, as recently happened at a club I was invited to attend (and had a great time after ignorant prejudices were educated over half an hour, bringing me to tears) that I was considered a 'single male' simply because of a false perception highly common in the UK. That matter educated and resolved, the night was very social even if nothing else happened.
I don't need to pay to get into a situation where there are men who want sex. (I'm not really interested in men, despite my (now ex) partner telling me 6 years ago I should perhaps explore my 'bi' side ...
I'm not concerned about genuine parties where a small contribution is charged to couples and single girls enter free. I understand entirely why single girls (or married solo girls) are hesitant to attend clubs and other functions. I talk with enough girls in my daily life about sex - yes we do talk about sex and men a lot but not the same way men to talk about girls and sex.
I know what the problem with the clubs commonly attended in London appear to be. And I know, based on my experiences in Clubs in other countries what can be done to done to change that and really enhance the experience for couples, girls and even the decent single men.
I can't see a change to the existing club environment, it caters for a specific need - men get their girl with her legs over her shoulders to bang and the girls get a few bucks top pay the rent and buy groceries.
I am however interested in seeing if any members in London would genuinely and commercially be interested in partnering with me to establish a run a club that will really cater for high levels of engagement and friendliness, especially for people who are inexperienced with the scene and perhaps a bit 'afraid' and shy.
In 20 years of swinging, I'm yet to find anyone who hasn't later said 'Hell why was I so shy, look at what I've missed out on' ... even my ex recently posted 'My miss spent youth' despite my efforts to encourage her to explore.
I really beleive there are couples who would like to see a very exciting venue opened where social and sensuality can be played out with a lot less hesitation and that hard first step.
I know the process works, I was a Hostess in a swingers club for a while and the difference between that club and other clubs was astounding.
A decent club, run by genuine members for genuine members would be an asset to this site, and would greatly provide for all interests without prejudice. of course the single men only wanting to bang would be left at the door  Genuine single men, would of course be highly encouraged to meet the greedy girls needs!
Thoughts?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There is and will always be, room in the market for a new "type of club".
Every new venture that we see advertised is promoted as being different from the rest. In reality though they all tend to be very much the same.
In an ideal world the club owners would be able to hand pick their customers, and will be able to charge them enough to keep the place running while still being affordable for their customers to be able to visit regularly.
The difficult part will be choosing the clientelle. How do you decide who the genuine single guys are, who are the genuine couples, and who are the genuine single ladies?
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By *risee OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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Actually the hand picking isn't that hard. Of course there are differing levels of confidence and engagement and these can be catered for.
In the 1990's and early Norti's, that's exactly what I did on geographical basis and it was very successful.
So I've got the method, tried and tested and one that I've not seen used in the UK at all. There is a bit of a 1300's approach to 'business' in the UK
Picking out the single guys that will meet the prerequisites isn't that hard really. Guys are predictable. I won't say any more
There are ways of keeping costs down significantly. I'm not interested in running this proposal as a profit venture. I see it as a memberships based process. If there are profits from the membership then the members would decide the expenditure options. Could be upgrade of premises, opening a chain in another city, discounts on food & drinks (subsidise memberships benefits on attendance kinda thing), lots of options there.
It's not that costly to run a venue if the right membership base is contributing annually. Annual Members would have free entry to all events, the privilege of membership. Other benefits outside the club itself could be negotiated on numbers alone.
Membership would be highly elite, you must know a member to be invited. This can be strengthened over time to knowing 2 or 3 members down the track. That could also inhibit membership growth so needs to be monitored carefully. Innovative methods of enhancing membership and enabling 'guests' need to be factored in too.
These are all minor issues, many already working well elsewhere in the world. Just not seen presented well in the UK for some reason.
When you say 'much the same' can you elaborate on how the various clubs you've been to are in that respect 'the same' as any other one you've been to.
I have to admit, in the case of my experiences in London, the clubs I've attended are very much the same ... I won't publish my reasons for the factual conclusion. I'd love to hear yours.
What is it that you would like to see in a club that would make it stand out as different to you. PM me if you prefer.
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