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A huge gap in the porn industry?
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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Just wondering how many people agree. Are we just weird or does porn miss a huge market?
We love porn.
But most of it is crap. Perhaps that’s not fair. I guess what is out there is popular but hardly any meets our preferences.
Surely we aren’t alone?
Genuine enjoyment is critical. All this oh! Ooh! Ahh! When it is obviously fake is not a turn on.
Humiliation is a turn off. So - cuckold is a genre. But humiliation of the man? No. However, so much porn humiliates women. To me (male half) gagging, cum on face etc is also a humiliation for the woman. Neither I nor Cleo like to see these shots. Treating women with disdain.
Close up anatomy! My god. I hate seeing gaping arseholes and gaping pussies leaking cum. Too crass. Rather disgusting. That close up anatomy is horrid at the best of times.
And fake people. Fake boobs. Unachievable bodies. We don’t want to see unattractive bodies, but bodies that don’t require surgery would be nice.
The exception to this is huge cocks. We like seeing huge cocks. (;
What we like? Everything. Gang bangs. Huge cocks. DVP. DP. Interracial etc.
But - make it sexy. Make it real. Make it sensual and decadent all at the same time.
In another post I mentioned Cleo just fucked a porn actor/ director. He is struggling to get into the market because he is doing the same shit they all do. We’re meeting him next weekend and want to talk to him about it. Why not try and get into a market no one seems to be doing?
Nubile films are a site that do some unique stuff. We would like more choice like this. We would actually pay for that.
So, I’m not saying there isn’t a market for gagging on cocks and gaping arseholes and close up anatomy etc. as clearly there is, but the market for sensual real classy porn seems to be unmet.
Does anyone else feel like this? Or are we representing another niche market/ minority opinion?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Agree with the op.
I like to see normal attractive people doing stuff, but am put off by over enthusiasm.
Maybe have a word with the film guy and get a fabs members DVD done?
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Good points but there’s so much free porn available nowadays that I wonder how a commercial porn producer can make any money at all."
That’s what he was saying. Free porn is killing the professional industry. So even more reason to come up with unique stuff that people might be willing to pay for.
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Agree with the op.
I like to see normal attractive people doing stuff, but am put off by over enthusiasm.
Maybe have a word with the film guy and get a fabs members DVD done?
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Any volunteers to star in it?? (: |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good points but there’s so much free porn available nowadays that I wonder how a commercial porn producer can make any money at all.
That’s what he was saying. Free porn is killing the professional industry. So even more reason to come up with unique stuff that people might be willing to pay for.
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How is what you're describing in any way 'unique'? There's is literally every type of porn out there at the touch of a button, from nasty and degrading to high end glossy. I'm not quite sure what exactly you're looking for. It's all our there already in abundance. I don't think there's any niche or gap left |
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Do I watch porn? Yes I do but it does nothing for me for the simple reason it all seems fake. I remember some time ago watching a man going down on a woman and it was the most erotic thing I've seen. It's was natural, they were both really enjoying it and that's what turned me on. It wasn't for the cameras it was for them, and that's why I got off on it.
I want real natural people who really do want to enjoy what they are doing! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Can't beat porn where it is genuine couples (or more) having sex. No acting, no arses in the air with the guys almost at right angles so the camera catches the penetration shot.
Saying that, a few group meets I've been to would've made perfect porn! By strange coincidence they've usually been in the lockable room at Decs |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Good points but there’s so much free porn available nowadays that I wonder how a commercial porn producer can make any money at all.
That’s what he was saying. Free porn is killing the professional industry. So even more reason to come up with unique stuff that people might be willing to pay for.
Interesting. Cleo is the researcher, but between the two of us on hundreds of sites we have found very little...
How is what you're describing in any way 'unique'? There's is literally every type of porn out there at the touch of a button, from nasty and degrading to high end glossy. I'm not quite sure what exactly you're looking for. It's all our there already in abundance. I don't think there's any niche or gap left"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do I watch porn? Yes I do but it does nothing for me for the simple reason it all seems fake. I remember some time ago watching a man going down on a woman and it was the most erotic thing I've seen. It's was natural, they were both really enjoying it and that's what turned me on. It wasn't for the cameras it was for them, and that's why I got off on it.
I want real natural people who really do want to enjoy what they are doing! "
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"Do I watch porn? Yes I do but it does nothing for me for the simple reason it all seems fake. I remember some time ago watching a man going down on a woman and it was the most erotic thing I've seen. It's was natural, they were both really enjoying it and that's what turned me on. It wasn't for the cameras it was for them, and that's why I got off on it.
I want real natural people who really do want to enjoy what they are doing! "
There is plenty of free porn showing real couples. Having said that, most of it is not High Definition quality. |
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"Good points but there’s so much free porn available nowadays that I wonder how a commercial porn producer can make any money at all.
That’s what he was saying. Free porn is killing the professional industry. So even more reason to come up with unique stuff that people might be willing to pay for.
How is what you're describing in any way 'unique'? There's is literally every type of porn out there at the touch of a button, from nasty and degrading to high end glossy. I'm not quite sure what exactly you're looking for. It's all our there already in abundance. I don't think there's any niche or gap left"
Yeah i didn't get it either. There are sites like passion HD that do all this, among others... |
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Saying you won't watch something because it's fake/unrealistic seems (to me) an unusual discriminator.
It's purely for your enjoyment. In mainstream film, vampires, aliens and mermaids are fake/unusual, but this doesn't mean you can't enjoy seeing them depicted on screen.
If I was watching realistic porn, most of the time I'd be watching people less attractive than me have less that's worse than the sex I have. Surely porn is escapism. For the most part that has to mean fantasy... |
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Porn and swinging is still very frowned upon. It’s this thing we only talk about with likeminded people. Still, it’s ok for a woman to be bisexual and have sex with a woman but for us bi males it’s still very very hatd( no pun intended). |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Saying you won't watch something because it's fake/unrealistic seems (to me) an unusual discriminator.
It's purely for your enjoyment. In mainstream film, vampires, aliens and mermaids are fake/unusual, but this doesn't mean you can't enjoy seeing them depicted on screen.
If I was watching realistic porn, most of the time I'd be watching people less attractive than me have less that's worse than the sex I have. Surely porn is escapism. For the most part that has to mean fantasy..."
No, you’re misunderstanding me. We want to see hot people. Not sure how that came across any other way.
As for acting - you’re kidding right? Actors are meant to make you believe what they are doing is real. No one likes b-grade ham acting.
For me the main thing a porn actor has to convince you of is that they are genuinely enjoying it. That’s pretty rare from our experience.
Agree with the fantasy but - we like costume porn as well, for example. But the difference between someone appearing to genuinely have a mind-blowing orgasm vs a someone acting like a chipmunk who sat on a sharp acorn is huge... |
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By *w214Couple
over a year ago
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There is no such thing as real porn. The second we know we're being observed our behaviour changes. Even, to a lesser extent, with our partners. As soon as others are introduced our behaviour changes. It's a fact, even the thought of being observed will change the subjects behaviour. Unless you've no idea you're being watched, and there's plenty of hidden camera porn (both real and fake) available on the internet. |
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"There is no such thing as real porn. The second we know we're being observed our behaviour changes. Even, to a lesser extent, with our partners. As soon as others are introduced our behaviour changes. It's a fact, even the thought of being observed will change the subjects behaviour. Unless you've no idea you're being watched, and there's plenty of hidden camera porn (both real and fake) available on the internet."
I agree with you on this. However, what turns me on is the woman's enjoyment of sex (I'm not claiming to be altruistic, it is what turns ME on). With professional porn it is obvious to me that the enjoyment is faked, so it does not turn me on. About one-third of my dogging experiences have not been enjoyable as I could tell the woman was not enjoying it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Agree with the op.
I like to see normal attractive people doing stuff, but am put off by over enthusiasm.
Maybe have a word with the film guy and get a fabs members DVD done?
Any volunteers to star in it?? (:"
No shortage of volunteers on here we love the idea of doing a porn film  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Porn is like any other media outlet it is made to make someone money!! Like mass production and like movie studios they contract people in to fuck each other. There isn't any chemistry because they have no passion other than the pay check they get out of it at the end of the shoot. I find Porn boring and in some cases it insults Women and glorifies r a p e. Because some sad people can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I'd highly recommend looking up a director called Lucie Blush. Well-shot, artistic but filthy films, starring hot people. (Also did the single best bi scene I've ever seen)."
Thanks Nick. Will check it out. |
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By *ntnCleo OP Couple
over a year ago
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"There is no such thing as real porn. The second we know we're being observed our behaviour changes. Even, to a lesser extent, with our partners. As soon as others are introduced our behaviour changes. It's a fact, even the thought of being observed will change the subjects behaviour. Unless you've no idea you're being watched, and there's plenty of hidden camera porn (both real and fake) available on the internet."
I completely agree. However, two caveats.
First, the whole point of an actor is to convince you it’s real. When someone plays a tortured soldier in conflict, or a policeman in a crisis, or a teacher with a difficult class of pupils, they need to convince you it’s real. Otherwise it’s crap acting. So professional porn actors should be able to convince you they are really enjoying it, really orgasming etc. Thats rare in our experience.
The second thing, even being watched we can still enjoy ourselves. Cleo is absolutely conscious of me watching her being fucked, especially if videoing it. But, despite that, she can still orgasm. Actually, in spite of it. And because it’s harder for her to get there, because it’s against her natural instincts and inhibitions, if she still is so overwhelmed that she can lose herself and orgasm, it is even hotter. And I’m those moments leading up and during, she really forgets just for a short time she is being watched.
I find that even hotter. Just mind-blowingly hot. (: |
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