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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" 'no one cares' 'irrelevant to me' and yet you still felt the need to make a forum post on it? | |||
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"The number of straight males that message me would back up the OP." Same here XX | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol 'no one cares' 'irrelevant to me' and yet you still felt the need to make a forum post on it? " One TV here said that they are between female and male, therefore genderless. But feel like a woman, acts like a woman. And she is mega hot!!! Lots of men meet her, straight men. I can't see what the problem is. Find it quite strange when people join this site but find it difficult to get their heads around the diversity. Mind boggles doesn't it | |||
"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x " Best answer ever! Who gives a monkeys what turns people on, forcing people into boxes is a pet hate of mine! | |||
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"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x " | |||
"I think men join as straight and then discover t girls, some of them probably didn't even know they existed before joining here. They don't really wanna go back and change to bisexual as some of them don't really identify as bisexual it's just a sex thing. Plus most guys I go with like women and women only however have been told I'm better than most women so keeps them coming back for more It's all about pushing boundaries and a lot of men don't change from straight as it may stop them from getting future meets from women in future as there are a LOT of judgemental women Who cares what sexuality someone is we are all on here for sex so let's just fuck each other and stop worrying about who others are fucking !!! " | |||
"Have been to house parties where TV's were present. Could easily have been verified by one as genuine, though never played together... Be careful what you assume... " It's probably the easiest way for a guy to get the verified tick on his profile, meeting a TV or CD, if only for a social | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol 'no one cares' 'irrelevant to me' and yet you still felt the need to make a forum post on it? " Most people love to label everyone as its the only way they can live in an orderly society, but who gives a crap in my opinion is up to the individual how they see them self ,bi straight gay etc ,it all feels good when having fun | |||
"OP would 100% fuck my arse if we were close " Who wouldnt mmm | |||
"Personally, I think a guy who puts straight on his profile but does that is insulting to the LGBT community. He is bi or curious but he treats it as a dirty word so won't say he is. If more men were honest about it, it would carry less stigma, but they allow people who have more strength of character to do it instead. I'm straight, but if I were bi, I'd say so, not hide behind the 'I don't like labels' bs. TV/TS have an even harder time in everyday society, I'm surprised they accept guys who won't put bi on a swinging site profile. Be proud of what you are. MrB" As part of the LGBT community I am not offended by this as I know through personal experience how hard it is to find out what you are and who you are.... before putting yourself in a box it is always best to EXPERIMENT which is probably why most guys come on here!!!! There is some stigma about sexuality still as people are so obsessed with labels... gay... bi... etc... who cares!!! Let people fuck who they wanna fuck | |||
"OP would 100% fuck my arse if we were close Who wouldnt mmm " | |||
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"OP would 100% fuck my arse if we were close " | |||
"So let's say a 'straight' guy fucks a post op girl, does that make him bi?" No it makes him a guy that fucked a pre op transsexual | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" They are obviously fab straight!. It's a new kind if straight lol | |||
"So let's say a 'straight' guy fucks a post op girl, does that make him bi?" Absolutely not . She was a woman in a mans body pre op . She is a woman in a woman's body post op . | |||
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"I did not know how many men were curious about TV and transgenders until I was on this site. And spend a lot of time trying to understand it. There is a different type of interest in TV/TS. Some men are just after new adventures and up to try anything once or twice. There are the cross-dressing men who identify themselves as straight for whom TV/TS are a great source of admiration. I must add to that that gender and sexuality are not the same things.Overall most men have would be interested in TV/TS because these people have a good understanding of male psychology; TV/TS are very good in seducing men, skilled in giving pleasure and due to all the difficulties they had to overcome they are able to keep an interesting conversation. Besides TV/TS cultivate a feminity that most bio females have forgotten. So saying all men who meet TV/TS are closet gay is not factually correct. Maybe it might help you to think we live in a time where men and women transcend all concept of gender, race. They are just connecting to a specific human being. " Women should never try & understand nor explain how a man thinks or feels, if they could marriages would last a life time, Same goes for men trying to understand women, it's a pointless task,,,, | |||
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"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, " How narrow minded | |||
"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" They are what is known as 'fab straight' they hide the veri's in case it interfere with them getting a meet with a lady. | |||
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"Have been to house parties where TV's were present. Could easily have been verified by one as genuine, though never played together... Be careful what you assume... " Depends what is written in the verification | |||
"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, How narrow minded " How ever you judge me, it's fact, | |||
"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, How narrow minded How ever you judge me, it's fact," Agree 100% | |||
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"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, " Few Rafa Benitez style "facts" here... So if you say you're vegetarian but have ever eaten a stake you are in fact an omnivore... Fact... You can never be vegetarian. | |||
"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, " Bollocks ! I am 100% Bisexual and will be for the rest of my life, however if any Man or Woman has a one (or 2 or 3 etc...) off sexual encounter with a member of their own Gender does not 'make' them gay or bi. That's your opinion not fact, we see ourselves as we wish and nothing should be forced upon us, labels are for cans not Humans. You decide your sexuality nobody else. And yes I have had several men who's profile states they are 'straight' and I don't judge them for it or decide what label to thrust upon them. | |||
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"The issue here is honesty, not sexuality. I despise hypocrisy and dishonesty, which is probably why I have very few friends of either sex." Let's be honest then. The amount of non-straight people who jump on these threads effectively claiming straight people don't exist or that sexuality is fluid never consider that these are just gay and bi people being dishonest. They don't like it if someone says that gay men actually do like women. No gay person will accept the assertion that their sexuality is fluid and that they actually are sexually attracted to the opposite gender. I don't see why they insist on highlighting "a straight man contacted me". No, a gay or bi person contacted you but the gay and bi community is being dishonest. No one wants to have that conversation. | |||
"The issue here is honesty, not sexuality. I despise hypocrisy and dishonesty, which is probably why I have very few friends of either sex. Let's be honest then. The amount of non-straight people who jump on these threads effectively claiming straight people don't exist or that sexuality is fluid never consider that these are just gay and bi people being dishonest. They don't like it if someone says that gay men actually do like women. No gay person will accept the assertion that their sexuality is fluid and that they actually are sexually attracted to the opposite gender. I don't see why they insist on highlighting "a straight man contacted me". No, a gay or bi person contacted you but the gay and bi community is being dishonest. No one wants to have that conversation. " That comment is the most 'Transphopic' on this forum Straight men who have sex with other men dressed up in women's clothes, are straight. It is men who only have sex with women who are Gay Oh, and another thing; there is not a single straight man in this world; or so the Gays say and have wet dreams about it - Mrs. J - | |||
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"OP would 100% fuck my arse if we were close Who wouldnt mmm " I would | |||
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"In the real world the difference between a straight guy and a Bi guy is 4 pints of Lager and an opportunity. In the Fab world you can dispense with the alcohol. lol " Says another Gay fantasist - Mrs. J - | |||
"If you're a straight male, why do you care? It doesn't personally impact you at all. " Exactly | |||
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"If you're a straight male, why do you care? It doesn't personally impact you at all. Exactly " I agree ..apart from the homophobes and those a bit wobbly with their maleness. | |||
"If you're a straight male, why do you care? It doesn't personally impact you at all. " | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" So irrelevant in fact that you start a thread about it | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol 'no one cares' 'irrelevant to me' and yet you still felt the need to make a forum post on it? " he is a fab member and has the right to post a question on the forum.if you think that it is irrelevant then dont reply | |||
"If the OP mean TV's/CD's..... Its not rocket science.... Straight males don't engage in same sex activity and changing clothes doesn't change a persons gender.... Pretty simple stuff init .... eh? " It's the first time you've talked some sense in them brief few words | |||
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"As a lot of females and couples refuse to meet bi curious or bi males. So basically loosing the chance of pussy over cock. Hence why they put straight." But do you not think that is deceiving the females and couples by doing that? | |||
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"The issue here is not a person's sexuality, but their HONESTY." I notice from your profile your a teen lover.. Would you not lie if it meant getting into some teenagers pants? | |||
"The issue here is not a person's sexuality, but their HONESTY. I notice from your profile your a teen lover.. Would you not lie if it meant getting into some teenagers pants? " Good question, and I must admit that I would at least be tempted, although I can't see how lying would help. I like to think I would resist temptation. My beef is really about people who lie about their sexual preferences. Men who claim to be straight when they are not; men who claim they do not find teenage girls attractive because they have a teenage daughter, yet look at teen porn. Your profile looks to be an honest one. | |||
"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, How narrow minded " Agreed! Narrow minded | |||
"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, How narrow minded Agreed! Narrow minded " Sorry thats narrow minded...they are str8 men tht like to suck cock from time to time it is tht simple If u have to label a gay man is a man who lives his life marries and only has sex with men no attraction to women , a bi man id a man who has no pref who he lives his life with and open about tht a man who pref women and wud live their life with a woman only openly and isnt attracted to men is a str8 man who likes to suck cock from time to time or fuck a lads ass! I dont get the confusion around that OR the issue aslong as its not ur cock he is tryin to get then quite frankly wht business is it of urs jst politely say 'no ta' or block men frm messagin u n move on! Cuz all this talk can come across as homophobic | |||
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"I consider myself as straight, even though, now and then, I get a hankering to lick a pussy. I don't fancy women like I do men and wouldn't have a relationship with one. It's purely a physical thing for me." Exactly ur staight in life but in sex ( on a sex site) u sometimes will play with ladies ...it is tht simple | |||
"The issue here is not a person's sexuality, but their HONESTY. I notice from your profile your a teen lover.. Would you not lie if it meant getting into some teenagers pants? Good question, and I must admit that I would at least be tempted, although I can't see how lying would help. I like to think I would resist temptation. My beef is really about people who lie about their sexual preferences. Men who claim to be straight when they are not; men who claim they do not find teenage girls attractive because they have a teenage daughter, yet look at teen porn. Your profile looks to be an honest one. " Thank you...Its not straightforward and it's worth remembering there's a huge difference between sexual behaviour and sexual identify.. i.e look at men in prison.They indulge in same sex practices but I would argue lots of them are straight.Its purely physical. | |||
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"The number of straight males that message me would back up the OP. Same here XX" | |||
"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x " This 100% | |||
"I did not know how many men were curious about TV and transgenders until I was on this site. And spend a lot of time trying to understand it. There is a different type of interest in TV/TS. Some men are just after new adventures and up to try anything once or twice. There are the cross-dressing men who identify themselves as straight for whom TV/TS are a great source of admiration. I must add to that that gender and sexuality are not the same things.Overall most men have would be interested in TV/TS because these people have a good understanding of male psychology; TV/TS are very good in seducing men, skilled in giving pleasure and due to all the difficulties they had to overcome they are able to keep an interesting conversation. Besides TV/TS cultivate a feminity that most bio females have forgotten. So saying all men who meet TV/TS are closet gay is not factually correct. Maybe it might help you to think we live in a time where men and women transcend all concept of gender, race. They are just connecting to a specific human being. " | |||
"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x This 100%" Might be meaningless to you .... But not for people who object to meeting guys that engage in same sex activity Guys who intentionally lie on their profiles in order to bypass the limits and bounties of people who would otherwise avoid them are disrespectful and untrustworthy ... I baffled by any defence that says labels don't matter | |||
"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x This 100% Might be meaningless to you .... But not for people who object to meeting guys that engage in same sex activity Guys who intentionally lie on their profiles in order to bypass the limits and bounties of people who would otherwise avoid them are disrespectful and untrustworthy ... I baffled by any defence that says labels don't matter " The assumption of honesty on an adult website is amusing to say the least. Life is too short to worry about things that are trivial in the grand scheme. The weather's nice outside, lets all go for a walk. M & J | |||
"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x This 100% Might be meaningless to you .... But not for people who object to meeting guys that engage in same sex activity Guys who intentionally lie on their profiles in order to bypass the limits and bounties of people who would otherwise avoid them are disrespectful and untrustworthy ... I baffled by any defence that says labels don't matter The assumption of honesty on an adult website is amusing to say the least. Life is too short to worry about things that are trivial in the grand scheme. The weather's nice outside, lets all go for a walk. M & J" Yeah yeah Let's all go for a walk hand in hand and forget who's Boris and who's Doris. | |||
"Who cares? Sexuality is fluid and the labels are pretty meaningless. V x This 100% Might be meaningless to you .... But not for people who object to meeting guys that engage in same sex activity Guys who intentionally lie on their profiles in order to bypass the limits and bounties of people who would otherwise avoid them are disrespectful and untrustworthy ... I baffled by any defence that says labels don't matter " Bloody hell This is no good soxy as yet again I'm in total agreement with you.....I'm getting worried | |||
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"Men and men in dresses lie about their sexuality Some lie about their height, age, body type All are liars We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone else who isn't - Mrs. J -" And yet you proudly display verifications from bisexual couples ? | |||
"Hiding it from there partner is worse ..it could course big problems ..." How so ? | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" "Methinks the Lady doth protest too much... " This is the most important question you have to ask people on the forums? | |||
"Men and men in dresses lie about their sexuality Some lie about their height, age, body type All are liars We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone else who isn't - Mrs. J - And yet you proudly display verifications from bisexual couples ? " Don't know where the 'proudly" emanated from but yes we do They are not liars and we do meet with bisexual couples; says so on our profile. But we have no wish to meet with single bisexual men; OUR CHOICE - Mrs. J - | |||
"Men and men in dresses lie about their sexuality Some lie about their height, age, body type All are liars We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone else who isn't - Mrs. J - And yet you proudly display verifications from bisexual couples ? Don't know where the 'proudly" emanated from but yes we do They are not liars and we do meet with bisexual couples; says so on our profile. But we have no wish to meet with single bisexual men; OUR CHOICE - Mrs. J -" But your original statement says men and men in dresses all lie! Your choice of course just my choice is not to believe your end statement which you say your not Liars. | |||
"Men and men in dresses lie about their sexuality Some lie about their height, age, body type All are liars We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone else who isn't - Mrs. J - And yet you proudly display verifications from bisexual couples ? Don't know where the 'proudly" emanated from but yes we do They are not liars and we do meet with bisexual couples; says so on our profile. But we have no wish to meet with single bisexual men; OUR CHOICE - Mrs. J - But your original statement says men and men in dresses all lie! Your choice of course just my choice is not to believe your end statement which you say your not Liars. " The nit-picking brigade has arrived This thread is about transvestites and transsexual Men who have sex with them are NOT heterosexual; they are bisexuals or homosexuals because they have sex with other men, no matter what dress these other men put on If they state on their profiles that they are heterosexual then they are lying Read the OP - Mrs. J - | |||
"Men and men in dresses lie about their sexuality Some lie about their height, age, body type All are liars We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone else who isn't - Mrs. J - And yet you proudly display verifications from bisexual couples ? Don't know where the 'proudly" emanated from but yes we do They are not liars and we do meet with bisexual couples; says so on our profile. But we have no wish to meet with single bisexual men; OUR CHOICE - Mrs. J - But your original statement says men and men in dresses all lie! Your choice of course just my choice is not to believe your end statement which you say your not Liars. The nit-picking brigade has arrived This thread is about transvestites and transsexual Men who have sex with them are NOT heterosexual; they are bisexuals or homosexuals because they have sex with other men, no matter what dress these other men put on If they state on their profiles that they are heterosexual then they are lying Read the OP - Mrs. J -" Just have re-read the op again and whilst I agree your correct on that. I still feel your original stand alone post was inflammatory in the context of calling all men and men in dresses as being liars. I feel it's got more to do with your issues about a man who puts a dress on! As you pointed out your happy to play with bisexual couples....would you play with a couple if the husband has a dress on? | |||
"... As you pointed out your happy to play with bisexual couples....would you play with a couple if the husband has a dress on? " No way would we play with TVs and TSs; it is not our fetish. And neither do we want to play with single men who have sex with them We have no issue with who has sex with who except that we would prefer people to be honest about their sexuality as then we can write to heterosexual men. As it it, so many men here lie about their sexuality that we have now sadly decided not to meet any men from here. Shame about the honest guys on this site - Mrs. J - | |||
"... As you pointed out your happy to play with bisexual couples....would you play with a couple if the husband has a dress on? No way would we play with TVs and TSs; it is not our fetish. And neither do we want to play with single men who have sex with them We have no issue with who has sex with who except that we would prefer people to be honest about their sexuality as then we can write to heterosexual men. As it it, so many men here lie about their sexuality that we have now sadly decided not to meet any men from here. Shame about the honest guys on this site - Mrs. J -" So the bisexual couples? Do you not think a lot of them men may not be totally heterosexual | |||
"... As you pointed out your happy to play with bisexual couples....would you play with a couple if the husband has a dress on? No way would we play with TVs and TSs; it is not our fetish. And neither do we want to play with single men who have sex with them We have no issue with who has sex with who except that we would prefer people to be honest about their sexuality as then we can write to heterosexual men. As it it, so many men here lie about their sexuality that we have now sadly decided not to meet any men from here. Shame about the honest guys on this site - Mrs. J - So the bisexual couples? Do you not think a lot of them men may not be totally heterosexual " The bisexual couples we have met are totally honest about their sexuality on their profiles. We have separate room fun iwith them I have no intention to meet a single bisexual man or a TV/TS and have fun with him in a room by myself whilst my husband is waiting for me With a single heterosexual man, we have had threesomes as my husband is comfortable around a 100% heterosexual single man Unfortunately so many lie about their sexuality that it is now impossible to do that Certainly the men tvs meet are not heterosexual; I don't know about 'a lot' I don't understand what you are getting at - Mrs. J - | |||
"... As you pointed out your happy to play with bisexual couples....would you play with a couple if the husband has a dress on? No way would we play with TVs and TSs; it is not our fetish. And neither do we want to play with single men who have sex with them We have no issue with who has sex with who except that we would prefer people to be honest about their sexuality as then we can write to heterosexual men. As it it, so many men here lie about their sexuality that we have now sadly decided not to meet any men from here. Shame about the honest guys on this site - Mrs. J - So the bisexual couples? Do you not think a lot of them men may not be totally heterosexual The bisexual couples we have met are totally honest about their sexuality on their profiles. We have separate room fun iwith them I have no intention to meet a single bisexual man or a TV/TS and have fun with him in a room by myself whilst my husband is waiting for me With a single heterosexual man, we have had threesomes as my husband is comfortable around a 100% heterosexual single man Unfortunately so many lie about their sexuality that it is now impossible to do that Certainly the men tvs meet are not heterosexual; I don't know about 'a lot' I don't understand what you are getting at - Mrs. J -" I'll leave it there as you have answered what I needed to know without realising it | |||
"... As you pointed out your happy to play with bisexual couples....would you play with a couple if the husband has a dress on? No way would we play with TVs and TSs; it is not our fetish. And neither do we want to play with single men who have sex with them We have no issue with who has sex with who except that we would prefer people to be honest about their sexuality as then we can write to heterosexual men. As it it, so many men here lie about their sexuality that we have now sadly decided not to meet any men from here. Shame about the honest guys on this site - Mrs. J - So the bisexual couples? Do you not think a lot of them men may not be totally heterosexual The bisexual couples we have met are totally honest about their sexuality on their profiles. We have separate room fun iwith them I have no intention to meet a single bisexual man or a TV/TS and have fun with him in a room by myself whilst my husband is waiting for me With a single heterosexual man, we have had threesomes as my husband is comfortable around a 100% heterosexual single man Unfortunately so many lie about their sexuality that it is now impossible to do that Certainly the men tvs meet are not heterosexual; I don't know about 'a lot' I don't understand what you are getting at - Mrs. J - I'll leave it there as you have answered what I needed to know without realising it " OK Sherlock - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Men and men in dresses lie about their sexuality Some lie about their height, age, body type All are liars We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone else who isn't - Mrs. J - And yet you proudly display verifications from bisexual couples ? Don't know where the 'proudly" emanated from but yes we do They are not liars and we do meet with bisexual couples; says so on our profile. But we have no wish to meet with single bisexual men; OUR CHOICE - Mrs. J -" My mistake . I guess your statement " We just want to know if a guy is gay/bisexual so we can choose someone who isn't " seemed pretty clear and to the point , so I wasn't expecting your profile to say that you'll play with straight playing bi males in a couple . Just goes to show that it's true when people say no one reads the profile I guess | |||
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"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" lol irrelevant to you but you made a forum post about it lol | |||
"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, How narrow minded How ever you judge me, it's fact," Don't agree with you there. What if someone wants to experiment it then decides after it's not for them. Are they then labelled bi? If some one tries a fag and doesn't like it so doesn't do it again are they then labelled a smoker because they tried one once ? | |||
"I meet straight guys quite frequently, they are not interested in touching me, they just want my oral skills or ass. They don't want to chat at all and walk away once finished. This is where imagination comes alive, they are very horny, no women available for them but they can imagine I am a real woman. Think about straight guys in prison, they use another prisoner for sex but are not interested in them at all, it's just a mouth or ass which a woman and a man have the same xx" Great post , and this highlights how it's not as simple or straightforward as it seems . If the straight guy is imagining the mouth or ass is that if a gorgeous woman , how can he be bi or gay ? In his mind he is with a woman . So often we read about how sex is better with a connection mentally , stimulate my mind etc..... and this is a perfect example . If the tgirl is convincing , then the straight guy is playing with a woman as far as he is concerned . And ultimately that's what matters isn't it ? It's hard to imagine that Andrea thinks the straight guy plays with her if no women are available , as I would choose Andrea over a woman any day of the week | |||
" It's hard to imagine that Andrea thinks the straight guy plays with her if no women are available , as I would choose Andrea over a woman any day of the week " Is this A or S speaking? | |||
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"If a man has consensual sexual contact with another man, he is not straight, 100% fact, & I agree with the op, I have lots of guys message me for meets who are on here as straight, Or they advertise as a straight guy who likes sucking cock, errrrrm,,,,,, NO, if a man sucks a cock, you're either bi or gay, 100% fact also, So straight guys,,,,, if you like to play with other men & once you actually have done so, whether they are in ladies clothes or not, you will never be straight again,,,,,,,, How narrow minded How ever you judge me, it's fact, Don't agree with you there. What if someone wants to experiment it then decides after it's not for them. Are they then labelled bi? If some one tries a fag and doesn't like it so doesn't do it again are they then labelled a smoker because they tried one once ? " "Tries a fag"? Unfortunate turn of phrase.. | |||
"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" You seem to know a lot about this 'problem' op. Not so sure it's as irrelevant to you as you hope we'll believe. How is it you know guys are hiding veris from them? | |||
"I was chatting with a female friend the other night, that has only recently found out about 'my' personal preferences. Anyway, She asked the inevitable question, so are you Gay, Bi or Trans? I replied non, I prefer the term Gender Fluid. It's not the gender, it's more to do with the person, their personality and their attitude towards most things in normal day to day life... Then she said but you've sucked a man's cock, you must be bi or gay or summat?... Again I replied, so have you! But the willies I suck don't belong to men, men do nothing at all for me... I am a man and I know myself that as a man, I'm a fucking arsehole and that's why I don't do men! Just be who you want to be, so long as we're all polite to eachother, who cares? " Gender fluid? Why do people have to invent words so that they don't have to be part of a certain criteria, if you dress you are at least CD, if you take it further you could be a TV or a TS or maybe a TG, but no such word as gender fluid, lol, get over yaself & the fact that you do have a pair of bollox between you legs, which still 100% fact, means you're a man still,,,,,, | |||
"If u go with a tranny then clearly your not straight they have winkys you know lol" Yeah but they don’t play or touch the “Wilkie”. They just want the mouth or ass which both sexes have x | |||
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"this thread still going? god almighty we already know there's no such thing as straight on here so why keep posting threads about it?!" Dunno but you did | |||
"I meet straight guys quite frequently, they are not interested in touching me, they just want my oral skills or ass. They don't want to chat at all and walk away once finished. This is where imagination comes alive, they are very horny, no women available for them but they can imagine I am a real woman. Think about straight guys in prison, they use another prisoner for sex but are not interested in them at all, it's just a mouth or ass which a woman and a man have the same xx Great post , and this highlights how it's not as simple or straightforward as it seems . If the straight guy is imagining the mouth or ass is that if a gorgeous woman , how can he be bi or gay ? In his mind he is with a woman . So often we read about how sex is better with a connection mentally , stimulate my mind etc..... and this is a perfect example . If the tgirl is convincing , then the straight guy is playing with a woman as far as he is concerned . And ultimately that's what matters isn't it ? It's hard to imagine that Andrea thinks the straight guy plays with her if no women are available , as I would choose Andrea over a woman any day of the week " Wow, thanks A , you’re such a nice, non judgemental guy, shame there isnt more guys like you around. I’ve met a few more straight guys lately and I’ve been their first ever TV, they just wanted my mouth or ass and this is exactly what I’m looking for. They treated me like a girl and didn’t touch my cock so this proves they have imagination and are NOT gay but a straight man who needed to release, a REAL man seeks relief and doesn’t just sit at home wanking over naked pics of girls x Also, a lot of girls on here don’t actually meet so I’m the next best thing x | |||
"I was chatting with a female friend the other night, that has only recently found out about 'my' personal preferences. Anyway, She asked the inevitable question, so are you Gay, Bi or Trans? I replied non, I prefer the term Gender Fluid. It's not the gender, it's more to do with the person, their personality and their attitude towards most things in normal day to day life... Then she said but you've sucked a man's cock, you must be bi or gay or summat?... Again I replied, so have you! But the willies I suck don't belong to men, men do nothing at all for me... I am a man and I know myself that as a man, I'm a fucking arsehole and that's why I don't do men! Just be who you want to be, so long as we're all polite to eachother, who cares? Gender fluid? Why do people have to invent words so that they don't have to be part of a certain criteria, if you dress you are at least CD, if you take it further you could be a TV or a TS or maybe a TG, but no such word as gender fluid, lol, get over yaself & the fact that you do have a pair of bollox between you legs, which still 100% fact, means you're a man still,,,,,, " Get it right, not a man but male x | |||
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"Newsflash!!! They aren't straight then!" Yes they are, in fact, some guys think a TV looks more feminine than their wives or girlfriends, also most guys I’ve met have stated they would never be interested in meeting me if I were not dressed or feminine as they are clearly NOT Into guys at all as they are STRAIGHT but horny enough to let a pretend woman (TV) satisfy them ! | |||
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"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are" So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? " Yep | |||
"this thread still going? god almighty we already know there's no such thing as straight on here so why keep posting threads about it?!" The last one only just finished lol If you fuck someone of the same sex, then you are NOT straight regardless of how you dress it up | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? Yep " Only problem with that is that I am going to confuse a lot of people... | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? " That’s your business isn’t it? You can lie, tell the truth or maybe just unsure or experimental? It’s your decision to label yourself, nobody elses | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? Yep Only problem with that is that I am going to confuse a lot of people... " Like who? If you’re going to meet for sex then you’ll be mutually attracted in the first place won’t you? | |||
"As a TG, Can be a bit of a turn off if I see a guy has many veris from TV/CD's and not so much TG's but, to question or label someones sexuality is wrong. People have freedom to sleep with whoever. That's life " I agree to a point, I also question the fact that a profile only has tv verifications and none at all from women and they say they are straight BUT they may just have trouble meeting girls or women on here cos there are far more guys on this site and not enough women to satisfy them x | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? That’s your business isn’t it? You can lie, tell the truth or maybe just unsure or experimental? It’s your decision to label yourself, nobody elses" Not really. Language is by its very nature social. Words only have meaning insofar as they have mutually accepted definitions. If I have my own private definition of a word then it stops me communicating with other people as they will not understand what I am saying. This radical subjectivism which says that anyone can say they are anything seems to me fundamentally incoherent. If there is no objective definition of, say, the word "straight" then the word is essentially meaningless. As a man, if I only have sex with men, yet say I am "straight" , other people have a perfect right to point out that, given the commonly accepted definition of the word, I am just wrong and either don't understand what the word means or am being deliberately obtuse. | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? That’s your business isn’t it? You can lie, tell the truth or maybe just unsure or experimental? It’s your decision to label yourself, nobody elses Not really. Language is by its very nature social. Words only have meaning insofar as they have mutually accepted definitions. If I have my own private definition of a word then it stops me communicating with other people as they will not understand what I am saying. This radical subjectivism which says that anyone can say they are anything seems to me fundamentally incoherent. If there is no objective definition of, say, the word "straight" then the word is essentially meaningless. As a man, if I only have sex with men, yet say I am "straight" , other people have a perfect right to point out that, given the commonly accepted definition of the word, I am just wrong and either don't understand what the word means or am being deliberately obtuse. " This is a swinging site, not dictionary corner!! People meet for sex, consensual sex, with people they are attracted to or offer a service that would satisfy their sexual appetite. A word is not going to change whether you fancy someone or not and if you read too much into that then just walk on by! | |||
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"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? That’s your business isn’t it? You can lie, tell the truth or maybe just unsure or experimental? It’s your decision to label yourself, nobody elses Not really. Language is by its very nature social. Words only have meaning insofar as they have mutually accepted definitions. If I have my own private definition of a word then it stops me communicating with other people as they will not understand what I am saying. This radical subjectivism which says that anyone can say they are anything seems to me fundamentally incoherent. If there is no objective definition of, say, the word "straight" then the word is essentially meaningless. As a man, if I only have sex with men, yet say I am "straight" , other people have a perfect right to point out that, given the commonly accepted definition of the word, I am just wrong and either don't understand what the word means or am being deliberately obtuse. This is a swinging site, not dictionary corner!! People meet for sex, consensual sex, with people they are attracted to or offer a service that would satisfy their sexual appetite. A word is not going to change whether you fancy someone or not and if you read too much into that then just walk on by!" That and linguistic prescriptivism is a fools game. | |||
"So let's say a 'straight' guy fucks a post op girl, does that make him bi? Absolutely not . She was a woman in a mans body pre op . She is a woman in a woman's body post op . " It would make him bi the person who changed into a woman is still a guy. I have no problem with transgender people either its just the truth. | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are So if I exclusively have sex with people with the same genitals as me and call myself straight, that's fine? That’s your business isn’t it? You can lie, tell the truth or maybe just unsure or experimental? It’s your decision to label yourself, nobody elses Not really. Language is by its very nature social. Words only have meaning insofar as they have mutually accepted definitions. If I have my own private definition of a word then it stops me communicating with other people as they will not understand what I am saying. This radical subjectivism which says that anyone can say they are anything seems to me fundamentally incoherent. If there is no objective definition of, say, the word "straight" then the word is essentially meaningless. As a man, if I only have sex with men, yet say I am "straight" , other people have a perfect right to point out that, given the commonly accepted definition of the word, I am just wrong and either don't understand what the word means or am being deliberately obtuse. This is a swinging site, not dictionary corner!! People meet for sex, consensual sex, with people they are attracted to or offer a service that would satisfy their sexual appetite. A word is not going to change whether you fancy someone or not and if you read too much into that then just walk on by! That and linguistic prescriptivism is a fools game." What a turn off | |||
"there seems to be a lot of "straight" men who meet TVs on this site which surely means there's a lot of in the closet of narnia guys here!! No one cares as it's your personal preference but they seem to hide it! Irrelevant to me but unsure why they meet them, veri them then hide their veris lol" You would be surprised how many straight guys ask for meets??. Loads tell me they want to feel me up on here, most guys just want sex anyway anyhow | |||
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"So let's say a 'straight' guy fucks a post op girl, does that make him bi? Absolutely not . She was a woman in a mans body pre op . She is a woman in a woman's body post op . It would make him bi the person who changed into a woman is still a guy. I have no problem with transgender people either its just the truth." You may want to research into the changes and what post op does to the body before claiming they're still a guy. Spew ignorance but won't research the facts ey. Why does it bother you so much what SOMEONE ELSE wants to do with there body or who someone wants to sleep with. It's none of your business, it's not affecting your life in anyway, so beak out of other peoples lives, do your homework and focus on your own. | |||
"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are" The point about labels is that it tells you stuff. It gives you information. If you are buying a video game, you check the label to see it is compatible with your console. Or go to the section of the shop labelled ps4 or xbox. If somebody with a PlayStation couldn't find a copy of 'fifa 18' in the shop, and bought the xbox edition instead, we'd think they were mad. But it's OK if we substitute 'sexual preference labels' for 'consoles' and 'partners' for 'games'? When you are looking for a meet, bad labelling doesn't help. 'Straight' has been so de-valued on fab that it is almost meaningless as a sexual preference. So 'straight' guys message anybody. Straight guys get messages from gay and bi men, because they may be fab-straight. It's not about being given a label, it's about labelling yourself honestly. *not a gamer, so apologies if the video game analogy is technically incorrect or impossible. | |||
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"NOBODY has the right to label anyone with a sexuality, it’s up to the individual to decide for themselves who they are The point about labels is that it tells you stuff. It gives you information. If you are buying a video game, you check the label to see it is compatible with your console. Or go to the section of the shop labelled ps4 or xbox. If somebody with a PlayStation couldn't find a copy of 'fifa 18' in the shop, and bought the xbox edition instead, we'd think they were mad. But it's OK if we substitute 'sexual preference labels' for 'consoles' and 'partners' for 'games'? When you are looking for a meet, bad labelling doesn't help. 'Straight' has been so de-valued on fab that it is almost meaningless as a sexual preference. So 'straight' guys message anybody. Straight guys get messages from gay and bi men, because they may be fab-straight. It's not about being given a label, it's about labelling yourself honestly. *not a gamer, so apologies if the video game analogy is technically incorrect or impossible. " Sums up my view perfectly! | |||
"Personally, I think a guy who puts straight on his profile but does that is insulting to the LGBT community. He is bi or curious but he treats it as a dirty word so won't say he is. If more men were honest about it, it would carry less stigma, but they allow people who have more strength of character to do it instead. I'm straight, but if I were bi, I'd say so, not hide behind the 'I don't like labels' bs. TV/TS have an even harder time in everyday society, I'm surprised they accept guys who won't put bi on a swinging site profile. Be proud of what you are. MrB" Here here | |||
"So let's say a 'straight' guy fucks a post op girl, does that make him bi? Absolutely not . She was a woman in a mans body pre op . She is a woman in a woman's body post op . It would make him bi the person who changed into a woman is still a guy. I have no problem with transgender people either its just the truth." And they say things have changed for the better with respect to the trans community in the UK Quite clearly there’s a long way to go judging by this comment . A post op girl is a woman , her passport will say she is , she has female genitalia , and there’s no way a guy fucking her is bi . She identifies , and is a woman , and he certainly wouldn’t be thinking she used to have male genitals as he fucks her . | |||