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"Every single straight guy who messages us suddenly says they are bi when we say we don't meet straight guys and the excuses for having straight on profile get better and better; latest one is "I put straight as my Mums on here" he was in his 50's lmao. Her" shame his mum does not meet bi guys. | |||
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"Every single straight guy who messages us suddenly says they are bi when we say we don't meet straight guys and the excuses for having straight on profile get better and better; latest one is "I put straight as my Mums on here" he was in his 50's lmao. Her" Ahahha! That's priceless! | |||
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"Every single straight guy who messages us suddenly says they are bi when we say we don't meet straight guys and the excuses for having straight on profile get better and better; latest one is "I put straight as my Mums on here" he was in his 50's lmao. Her" What a great excuse!   | |||
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"A staright guy playing with a TV or TS isn't straight imo" Exactly this....if you have a cock and who you play with has a one too....then you are NOT straight in any way shape or form. The problem is simply one of honesty! (Or not wanting your mum to know.....? Really!) | |||
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"Every single straight guy who messages us suddenly says they are bi when we say we don't meet straight guys and the excuses for having straight on profile get better and better; latest one is "I put straight as my Mums on here" he was in his 50's lmao. Her" THIS !!! Aaaaaahhhhhhggggg! So bored of replying "Orally Bi Guys Only"  | |||
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"Every single straight guy who messages us suddenly says they are bi when we say we don't meet straight guys and the excuses for having straight on profile get better and better; latest one is "I put straight as my Mums on here" he was in his 50's lmao. Her" Haha thats funny | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" alot is because they think tvs are the closest thing that they can get to an actual women as the real women are a harder lay for average guys on here. | |||
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"The ambiguity of the OP’s question adds an unnecessary layer of controversy... CD/TV is a proclivity where the person gains sex gratification from the act of wearing clothes fashioned for the opposite gender ….. CD's/TV's don’t change gender when they change clothes . Straight males don’t engage in same sex activity …. TS/TG don’t crossdress … TS/TG deserve the right and respect of gender identity that best defines them as an individual and if that involves meeting straight males there is no contradiction of sexuality definition by either individual involved….."  just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either  | |||
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"The ambiguity of the OP’s question adds an unnecessary layer of controversy... CD/TV is a proclivity where the person gains sex gratification from the act of wearing clothes fashioned for the opposite gender ….. CD's/TV's don’t change gender when they change clothes . Straight males don’t engage in same sex activity …. TS/TG don’t crossdress … TS/TG deserve the right and respect of gender identity that best defines them as an individual and if that involves meeting straight males there is no contradiction of sexuality definition by either individual involved….. just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either "I much prefer pegging rather than the tumble dryer..... | |||
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"The ambiguity of the OP’s question adds an unnecessary layer of controversy... CD/TV is a proclivity where the person gains sex gratification from the act of wearing clothes fashioned for the opposite gender ….. CD's/TV's don’t change gender when they change clothes . Straight males don’t engage in same sex activity …. TS/TG don’t crossdress … TS/TG deserve the right and respect of gender identity that best defines them as an individual and if that involves meeting straight males there is no contradiction of sexuality definition by either individual involved….. just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either
I much prefer pegging rather than the tumble dryer..... "Oh but if only we could get the weather for it  | |||
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"The ambiguity of the OP’s question adds an unnecessary layer of controversy... CD/TV is a proclivity where the person gains sex gratification from the act of wearing clothes fashioned for the opposite gender ….. CD's/TV's don’t change gender when they change clothes . Straight males don’t engage in same sex activity …. TS/TG don’t crossdress … TS/TG deserve the right and respect of gender identity that best defines them as an individual and if that involves meeting straight males there is no contradiction of sexuality definition by either individual involved….. just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either
I much prefer pegging rather than the tumble dryer.....
Oh but if only we could get the weather for it"I thought Teesside has it's own micro climate ...... It certainly appears that way when your travelling down the A19..... | |||
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"So much heterophobia here "I thought the general consensus is that TVs and cds want the heteros | |||
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"So much heterophobia here "Since when has acknowledging the truth become phobic .... | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any " There are at least a few on here. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" i would say they were bi and not out yet | |||
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"So much heterophobia here "This is inevitable result of any movement etc when it gathers pace. Be it Marxism, feminism, Brexitism, right of LGBT.... They are never satisfied do be accepted only but try to make everyone else like them. Demand tolerance and acceptance while aren't tolerant and accepting the rights of those before them. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any There are at least a few on here. " Very interesting, I hope they read this post on the thread and get in contact | |||
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"So much heterophobia here "Tut, Tut Everyone knows that transvestites / transsexuals are women with a penis and the men who have sex with them are straight It is the men who have sex with women with a vagina are the Gays - Mrs. J - | |||
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"So much heterophobia here
I thought the general consensus is that TVs and cds want the heteros "Tbh I seem to think it's the other way round. | |||
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"The ambiguity of the OP’s question adds an unnecessary layer of controversy... CD/TV is a proclivity where the person gains sex gratification from the act of wearing clothes fashioned for the opposite gender ….. CD's/TV's don’t change gender when they change clothes . Straight males don’t engage in same sex activity …. TS/TG don’t crossdress … TS/TG deserve the right and respect of gender identity that best defines them as an individual and if that involves meeting straight males there is no contradiction of sexuality definition by either individual involved….. just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either
I much prefer pegging rather than the tumble dryer.....
Oh but if only we could get the weather for it
I thought Teesside has it's own micro climate ......
It certainly appears that way when your travelling down the A19..... "Ok I'll own up to being a smoggy. . .if you do the same on the mackem... | |||
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"The ambiguity of the OP’s question adds an unnecessary layer of controversy... CD/TV is a proclivity where the person gains sex gratification from the act of wearing clothes fashioned for the opposite gender ….. CD's/TV's don’t change gender when they change clothes . Straight males don’t engage in same sex activity …. TS/TG don’t crossdress … TS/TG deserve the right and respect of gender identity that best defines them as an individual and if that involves meeting straight males there is no contradiction of sexuality definition by either individual involved….. just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either
I much prefer pegging rather than the tumble dryer.....
Oh but if only we could get the weather for it
I thought Teesside has it's own micro climate ......
It certainly appears that way when your travelling down the A19.....
Ok I'll own up to being a smoggy. . .if you do the same on the mackem... "Ooooooh how very dare you
I only made a general observation about climatic conditions .....
If indeed I was a Mackem it would have been an accident of birth and something I had no control over and I would accept the accusation ....
But as you well know I'm not a Mackem, I'm not, I'm not I tell you, I'm not...
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/17 11:49:04]" To say honest labels are irrelevant on sites like this only perpetuates the stigma and bigotry suffered by gay and bisexual members It's a shameful defence of wilful dishonesty intended to deceive other site members and has no purpose other than attempting to bypass the limits and boundaries of site member who would otherwise have an informed option to avoid those who engage in sexual behaviour of a type that doesnt* meet their approval | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/17 11:49:04] To say honest labels are irrelevant on sites like this only perpetuates the stigma and bigotry suffered by gay and bisexual members It's a shameful defence of wilful dishonesty intended to deceive other site members and has no purpose other than attempting to bypass the limits and boundaries of site member who would otherwise have an informed option to avoid those who engage in sexual behaviour of a type that doesnt* meet their approval" I agree as nearly every time a thread like this pops up...it almost always turns into some form of bigotry. What is not for one as for someone else....but someone always wants to take a pop Be it on the gay/bi people....the bbws the bbcs, people who dress in opposite clothing...bdsm....the list goes on! It's a shame that people can't live and let live | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 28/07/17 11:49:04] To say honest labels are irrelevant on sites like this only perpetuates the stigma and bigotry suffered by gay and bisexual members It's a shameful defence of wilful dishonesty intended to deceive other site members and has no purpose other than attempting to bypass the limits and boundaries of site member who would otherwise have an informed option to avoid those who engage in sexual behaviour of a type that doesnt* meet their approval" I agree with all of that too believe it or not If I had knocked back every guy who secretly liked a gobful of cock, I'd have missed out on some pretty great meets If they want to fuck off back to Narnia afterwards, so be it Awful mercenary of me I accept that, but me knocking them back was never going to alter them being disingenuous to others. So I gave up worrying | |||
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" just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either "How can pegging possibly make someone gay
Pegging is an act where a female uses a strapon to penetrate a males anus. This is an act carried out between a male and a female therefore is straight, additionally its a silicone/plastic strapon and not a cock....
Thats like saying if someone goes for a prostate exam and a male doctor sticks his finger up the bum as part of the procedure then the patient must be gay then.....
Woman with fake cock? = not gay act.
Fucked with real cock? = a gay/Bi act. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add "Check the last couple of week's hot photos. One made it to the top 10. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add
Check the last couple of week's hot photos. One made it to the top 10."Just found belle75 and there's no way you'd know she was trans. She is hot | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add
Check the last couple of week's hot photos. One made it to the top 10.
Just found belle75 and there's no way you'd know she was trans. She is hot"Alright, now you owe me a slim athletic woman for pointing you in the right direction. 
Btw, say that you know her from me. She knows me. Kind of. From a message of support. Not for sex. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add "Fully transitioned ladies are just ladies like the rest of us and most wanted to be treated as such. They don't want to be fetishised because they were born differently. I have seen plenty of trans ladies who have a TV/TS profile but there are some who have a single female profile and state in their bio that they are a fully transitioned TS. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any " I don't think there are any. | |||
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" just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either
How can pegging possibly make someone gay
Pegging is an act where a female uses a strapon to penetrate a males anus. This is an act carried out between a male and a female therefore is straight, additionally its a silicone/plastic strapon and not a cock....
Thats like saying if someone goes for a prostate exam and a male doctor sticks his finger up the bum as part of the procedure then the patient must be gay then.....
Woman with fake cock? = not gay act.
Fucked with real cock? = a gay/Bi act."That's exactly what I was saying, there was a thread on here yesterday asking if it was gay or not...got to laugh | |||
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"what I'm looking for Fully transitioned ladies are just ladies like the rest of us and most wanted to be treated as such. They don't want to be fetishised because they were born differently. I have seen plenty of trans ladies who have a TV/TS profile but there are some who have a single female profile and state in their bio that they are a fully transitioned TS." Great post .... I completely agree with you and extend the respect of female gender identity to those at any stage of transition ... However I think it becomes overly simplistic when gender identity is defined solely by genitalia ..... | |||
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" just like pegging etc doesn't make you gay either
How can pegging possibly make someone gay
Pegging is an act where a female uses a strapon to penetrate a males anus. This is an act carried out between a male and a female therefore is straight, additionally its a silicone/plastic strapon and not a cock....
Thats like saying if someone goes for a prostate exam and a male doctor sticks his finger up the bum as part of the procedure then the patient must be gay then.....
Woman with fake cock? = not gay act.
Fucked with real cock? = a gay/Bi act.
That's exactly what I was saying, there was a thread on here yesterday asking if it was gay or not...got to laugh "I get ya now
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"what I'm looking for Fully transitioned ladies are just ladies like the rest of us and most wanted to be treated as such. They don't want to be fetishised because they were born differently. I have seen plenty of trans ladies who have a TV/TS profile but there are some who have a single female profile and state in their bio that they are a fully transitioned TS. Great post .... I completely agree with you and extend the respect of female gender identity to those at any stage of transition ... However I think it becomes overly simplistic when gender identity is defined solely by genitalia ..... "Totally understand what you are saying with the respect point and maybe I'm not articulating what I mean in a clear and respectful fashion so no offence intended to anyone. For me, I see fully transitioned as a lady/female hence why I would want to meet them. I've never met one before and I am keen to do so, it is not a barrier for me as it maybe for others | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add "Why not just meet women? | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add
Why not just meet women? "I do.... | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add
Why not just meet women?
I do...."Then are you bi because you seem to meet bi men on here. | |||
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"So much heterophobia here
Tut, Tut
Everyone knows that transvestites / transsexuals are women with a penis and the men who have sex with them are straight
It is the men who have sex with women with a vagina are the Gays
- Mrs. J -"Confusing.... | |||
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"I dont see the point of actively trying to meet post op trans women. " Yeah i'm the same whats the point when you can have the real deal. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" Deep hidden fantasy for mr , that's no longer a fantasy but a beautiful reality . So I guess I'm no longer straight .....  | |||
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"I got Charing to a young guy in a club, he said he loved playing with TVs but he's not "gay" and would never let them fuck his arse. He fucked them and played with their cock etc Each to their own is my outlook but this one was strange to me!" Hes gay then. Straight men don't have sexual contact with other men it really is that black an white in life. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" It's because some things that appear straight at first glance are not. Something to do with parallax | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people " If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it." they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is. | |||
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"Oh, gender stereotyping must be correct then because fabswingers owners cant be arsed updating the categories, or researching what categories their users actually are." | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is." 60 real lol that made my day thanks. | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is. 60 real lol that made my day thanks. "Your contribution and knowledge is too much for the rest of us pal... | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is. 60 real lol that made my day thanks.
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"I got Charing to a young guy in a club, he said he loved playing with TVs but he's not "gay" and would never let them fuck his arse. He fucked them and played with their cock etc Each to their own is my outlook but this one was strange to me! Hes gay then. Straight men don't have sexual contact with other men it really is that black an white in life." He's not ' gay ' , he's bi , he may well be acting out a fantasy in clubs . The lifestyle offers so much diversity and an opportunity to turn fantasy into reality . And it really is as black and white as that | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is. 60 real lol that made my day thanks.
Your contribution and knowledge is too much for the rest of us pal...
And yours is about as deep as a puddle so guess that makes us even buddy."Did you come up with that insult all by yourself... How about you give an educated point of view to the discussion rather than just hijacking the thread (like you do with most of them). I'd be interested to hear your argument and how you came to that particular conclusion. | |||
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"I got Charing to a young guy in a club, he said he loved playing with TVs but he's not "gay" and would never let them fuck his arse. He fucked them and played with their cock etc Each to their own is my outlook but this one was strange to me! Hes gay then. Straight men don't have sexual contact with other men it really is that black an white in life. He's not ' gay ' , he's bi , he may well be acting out a fantasy in clubs . The lifestyle offers so much diversity and an opportunity to turn fantasy into reality . And it really is as black and white as that " Ok bear with me, so you say he has sex with a tv - transvestite man.? He knows its a man before he engages with him in sex and fucks him in his arse and plays with his cock right.? So how is that bi please enlighten me 2 blokes together is homosexual sex. There was no woman there they both know that i know that and so do you. So is that not gay sex or is it bi sex.? In fact don't even bother i'm not interested in this nonsense. | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is. 60 real lol that made my day thanks.
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And yours is about as deep as a puddle so guess that makes us even buddy.
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"I got Charing to a young guy in a club, he said he loved playing with TVs but he's not "gay" and would never let them fuck his arse. He fucked them and played with their cock etc Each to their own is my outlook but this one was strange to me! Hes gay then. Straight men don't have sexual contact with other men it really is that black an white in life. He's not ' gay ' , he's bi , he may well be acting out a fantasy in clubs . The lifestyle offers so much diversity and an opportunity to turn fantasy into reality . And it really is as black and white as that Ok bear with me, so you say he has sex with a tv - transvestite man.? He knows its a man before he engages with him in sex and fucks him in his arse and plays with his cock right.? So how is that bi please enlighten me 2 blokes together is homosexual sex. There was no woman there they both know that i know that and so do you. So is that not gay sex or is it bi sex.? In fact don't even bother i'm not interested in this nonsense." Ah but there you have it! Where ever there is a tv thread you can be sure you will turn up! For someone who has the views you have....I don't get it. As you said it's nonsense and you have not interest. ...so why the feck come in the first place..then second....you getting it? | |||
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"I got Charing to a young guy in a club, he said he loved playing with TVs but he's not "gay" and would never let them fuck his arse. He fucked them and played with their cock etc Each to their own is my outlook but this one was strange to me! Hes gay then. Straight men don't have sexual contact with other men it really is that black an white in life. He's not ' gay ' , he's bi , he may well be acting out a fantasy in clubs . The lifestyle offers so much diversity and an opportunity to turn fantasy into reality . And it really is as black and white as that Ok bear with me, so you say he has sex with a tv - transvestite man.? He knows its a man before he engages with him in sex and fucks him in his arse and plays with his cock right.? So how is that bi please enlighten me 2 blokes together is homosexual sex. There was no woman there they both know that i know that and so do you. So is that not gay sex or is it bi sex.? In fact don't even bother i'm not interested in this nonsense." If he's engaging in a sexual act with a tv , and no women are present , then yes it's a homosexual act . But it doesn't make him gay , any more than I am . He may well engage in sexual acts with women too , so his sexuality would be bi , not gay . For five years I wondered why so many straight guys played with TVs and still considered themselves straight , just as you do . Then for the first time I experienced a bj from a tv and it blew me away ! My wife was sharing my cock with the tv , and it was a real eye opener . So , since she enjoyed the experience as much as I did , we explored some more and came to love the liberating joy that came from expanding our adventure in this lifestyle . I wouldn't want a relationship with a tv , even if I was single , but a tv adds so much to the fun we have together . It sure as hell doesn't make me gay in any way shape or form , or the guy in question . | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people If you think a TS is a woman then why not contact the site owners and ask them why they are classed as TS and not a woman on here. I think there might be a reason for it. they aren't classed as men though either. think there's well over 60 sexualities now. i know that's not gender but that is how complicated sexuality is. 60 real lol that made my day thanks.
Your contribution and knowledge is too much for the rest of us pal...
And yours is about as deep as a puddle so guess that makes us even buddy.
Did you come up with that insult all by yourself... How about you give an educated point of view to the discussion rather than just hijacking the thread (like you do with most of them). I'd be interested to hear your argument and how you came to that particular conclusion.
You go fight the cause you feel so strongly for wave the flag.
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"I got Charing to a young guy in a club, he said he loved playing with TVs but he's not "gay" and would never let them fuck his arse. He fucked them and played with their cock etc Each to their own is my outlook but this one was strange to me! Hes gay then. Straight men don't have sexual contact with other men it really is that black an white in life. He's not ' gay ' , he's bi , he may well be acting out a fantasy in clubs . The lifestyle offers so much diversity and an opportunity to turn fantasy into reality . And it really is as black and white as that Ok bear with me, so you say he has sex with a tv - transvestite man.? He knows its a man before he engages with him in sex and fucks him in his arse and plays with his cock right.? So how is that bi please enlighten me 2 blokes together is homosexual sex. There was no woman there they both know that i know that and so do you. So is that not gay sex or is it bi sex.? In fact don't even bother i'm not interested in this nonsense." You do not what bisexual means ? Has sex with men and women - they don't have to be at the same time | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people " You say a "ts is a woman (no matter what stage of a transition she is at)". Given that being a woman apparently doesn't involve possession of a vagina, would you like to give me a working definition of a "woman". | |||
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"^now that's a question!^ "Indeed. That's always puzzled me about trans theory. It seems to be that if you discard the hitherto conventional definitions of what a woman is (having vagina., breasts, ovaries etc) it seems to me that you then have a completely circular subjectivism - a woman is someone who feels like a woman. But as we have no objective definition of "woman" we cannot know what the term "woman," actually means in that context. For the avoidance of doubt, I have no issue with people dressing, behaving or calling themselves whatever they want, but I have never understood how a concept like "woman" can be completely subjective and still retain meaning. | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people You say a "ts is a woman (no matter what stage of a transition she is at)". Given that being a woman apparently doesn't involve possession of a vagina, would you like to give me a working definition of a "woman". " I'm not sure what you are actually asking me here... Are you asking for my personal definition of a woman or the Oxford dictionary's. A transgender who goes through the full cycle will eventually finish with a vagina and breasts. Does that count? | |||
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people You say a "ts is a woman (no matter what stage of a transition she is at)". Given that being a woman apparently doesn't involve possession of a vagina, would you like to give me a working definition of a "woman". I'm not sure what you are actually asking me here... Are you asking for my personal definition of a woman or the Oxford dictionary's. A transgender who goes through the full cycle will eventually finish with a vagina and breasts. Does that count? "I was asking for your definition as you specifically said that a ts at any point in their transition would be a woman. So we have women, on your definition, without vaginas. I am genuinely interested in this as with all the will in the world I can't see how this stance does anything other than make the concept of woman completely subjective and hence meaningless. If you can provide a non subjective definition that encompasses women without vaginas I would be very interested. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any I don't think there are any." I've send the profiles of at least 3-4. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add
Fully transitioned ladies are just ladies like the rest of us and most wanted to be treated as such. They don't want to be fetishised because they were born differently.
I have seen plenty of trans ladies who have a TV/TS profile but there are some who have a single female profile and state in their bio that they are a fully transitioned TS."Nothing against trans at all, but it's plainly wrong to suggest that once transition has taken place, the person becomes just like the sex it transitioned to, no difference with those who were born like that. Never in a million years. The closest you can get to is with intersex people with no identified sex with 2 fully functioning genitalias. Chop one and leave the other... Very very rare condition... But if I decided tomorrow to castrate myself and take estrogen and put silicon boobs, I'll never ever be a real woman. I'll always be a man who decided to mutilate myself | |||
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"I've given up on labels to describe sexual preferences Do you like it ? Does the other person like it ? Is it legal ? Yes to all three ... Do it
Whatever anyone else thinks is incidental"This all day long. Identify as a Greggs pasty for all I care. Just do you. Looking through this thread, so many are hung up on names and labels, who bloody cares? It's none of your business what others do with their or other peoples genitals. And as for talking about trans women as things and not people
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" Just out of curiosity OP, as you identify as a straight guy, why are you looking at straight guys profiles to see who they want to meet? I look at lots of profiles from the forums, but don't want to meet anybody at all so my sexual preferences are irrelevant. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any I don't think there are any. I've send the profiles of at least 3-4." We've met and played with a fully transitioned woman . She was gorgeous , but totally straight so only I played . My wife loved watching and it brought her voyeuristic side out | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I think the forum digresses.but going back to the original post.... Excuse my ignorance for terms but I would only be interested in meeting a fully trans lady (i.e. No cock) it's a recent interest and only to see and experience since some photos I've seen appear to have very hot and attractive trans ladies and I wonder if they are as good as they look? I have no interest in meeting a man dressed up or a someone with tits and cock. No offence meant to any, just personal preference and not what I'm looking for Still looking for these fully trans ladies might I add
Fully transitioned ladies are just ladies like the rest of us and most wanted to be treated as such. They don't want to be fetishised because they were born differently.
I have seen plenty of trans ladies who have a TV/TS profile but there are some who have a single female profile and state in their bio that they are a fully transitioned TS.
Nothing against trans at all, but it's plainly wrong to suggest that once transition has taken place, the person becomes just like the sex it transitioned to, no difference with those who were born like that.
Never in a million years.
The closest you can get to is with intersex people with no identified sex with 2 fully functioning genitalias. Chop one and leave the other... Very very rare condition...
But if I decided tomorrow to castrate myself and take estrogen and put silicon boobs, I'll never ever be a real woman. I'll always be a man who decided to mutilate myself
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"Yippee another debate on this... Not had one before.... I'd normally add my two pennies worth but it will get lost in the sea of utter rubbish that goes with these threads. Throughput this whole thread the terms tv and ts have been used as one... But news flash. They are very different. A tv is a guy, a ts is a woman ( no matter what stage of transition she is at). Science studies proves the majority of the opinions on this thread are incorrect .... Do your research people You say a "ts is a woman (no matter what stage of a transition she is at)". Given that being a woman apparently doesn't involve possession of a vagina, would you like to give me a working definition of a "woman". I'm not sure what you are actually asking me here... Are you asking for my personal definition of a woman or the Oxford dictionary's. A transgender who goes through the full cycle will eventually finish with a vagina and breasts. Does that count?
I was asking for your definition as you specifically said that a ts at any point in their transition would be a woman. So we have women, on your definition, without vaginas.
I am genuinely interested in this as with all the will in the world I can't see how this stance does anything other than make the concept of woman completely subjective and hence meaningless.
If you can provide a non subjective definition that encompasses women without vaginas I would be very interested. "Do you want the objective definition of woman... Or female....? Look, I'm with the majority of you guys. Live and let live, banish labels etc n etc... But let's face it, it isn't that simple. However, if someone is born in the wrong body (try not to role your eyes as it is a thing) and they decide to live life as their chosen sex (full time, hormones, sex changes, etc etc) they are (in my eyes) that sex...and once fully treated will be seen that way in the eyes of the law too. We can go on and n about right and wrongs... But il leave you all with this. Scientific studies have demonstrated that a man whos attracted to a ts(not tv) has the same chemical reactions in the body as they do to a female. This chemical reaction is different for bi and gay people. I will find the study and post the link... And hey, it'd just my pov | |||
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"why do we only ever see male to female trans on here and NEVER female to male? I have my theories but interested to find out yours? "There are quite a few f to m trans on here. I could name quite a few but I'd get a ban. However, there are also an awful lot of tv's (m to f) on here claiming to be trans although many never venture into the real world. | |||
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"why do we only ever see male to female trans on here and NEVER female to male? I have my theories but interested to find out yours?
There are quite a few f to m trans on here. I could name quite a few but I'd get a ban.
However, there are also an awful lot of tv's (m to f) on here claiming to be trans although many never venture into the real world.
"Really? I presume they're more low key than M-F then? Would be interesting to have a chat too a trans F-M, I think they have a different take on the whole transition compared to M-F. Grrr I wish I could know their profile | |||
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"As far as the ratio of female to male crossdressers goes I imagine the simple explanation of why there seems to be less F2M is male clothes are shite "HAHAHAHAHA goes without saying men's clothes are shite but surely that's not why people transition for the fashion collection. I mean proper TS F-M not CD. | |||
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"As far as the ratio of female to male crossdressers goes I imagine the simple explanation of why there seems to be less F2M is male clothes are shite
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"As far as the ratio of female to male crossdressers goes I imagine the simple explanation of why there seems to be less F2M is male clothes are shite
HAHAHAHAHA goes without saying men's clothes are shite but surely that's not why people transition for the fashion collection. I mean proper TS F-M not CD."I wouldn't know mate....I'm just a bloke who doesn't fancy men but enjoys the intensity of same sex activity with an added layer of pleasure I get wearing a frock but that's as far as it goes in my world.... I don't meet other CD and I certainly don't meet straight males and if a guy sends me a message where he so much as refers to me in female terms i.e. babe or hun etc, I mock him relentlessly to the point he swiftly loses the will to reply ..... | |||
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"There have been a couple of f to m trans who post on the forums. I was at the worlds largest trans pride a couple of weeks ago and saw lots of m to f people and they by far out numbered the f to m until you realised that most were TVs enjoying the chance to be in public. I got the impression that there was an even split regards the people who were actually transitioning" I think i saw you at the bar in NY NY on the sat night, we were both being served ( i was in a corset, leggings and a lace top) ..... quite Domme looking and really tall lol.... i was trying to decide if it was you when your wee group wandered off.... nevermind | |||
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"As far as the ratio of female to male crossdressers goes I imagine the simple explanation of why there seems to be less F2M is male clothes are shite
It must also be hard for female cross dressers, I mean what can they do? Jeans and a shirt... bloody frustrating
Suit and tie? Bowler hat? Trousers that have the zipper on the wrong side?
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"There have been a couple of f to m trans who post on the forums. I was at the worlds largest trans pride a couple of weeks ago and saw lots of m to f people and they by far out numbered the f to m until you realised that most were TVs enjoying the chance to be in public. I got the impression that there was an even split regards the people who were actually transitioning I think i saw you at the bar in NY NY on the sat night, we were both being served ( i was in a corset, leggings and a lace top) ..... quite Domme looking and really tall lol.... i was trying to decide if it was you when your wee group wandered off.... nevermind "It would have been me. I would have been pretty wasted too. | |||
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"I got a message from a TV earlier on. I didn't even realise so I started messaging back, quite flirty I might add. I suddenly realised that it would be stupid of me just stop there after I've already though she was attractive, and I quickly realised I'd be denying myself something I might enjoy because of no reason at all. Today has been quite an eye opener for me "Welcome to the dark side | |||
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"I got a message from a TV earlier on. I didn't even realise so I started messaging back, quite flirty I might add. I suddenly realised that it would be stupid of me just stop there after I've already though she was attractive, and I quickly realised I'd be denying myself something I might enjoy because of no reason at all. Today has been quite an eye opener for me
Welcome to the dark side "
If a TV is convincing as a woman and has a wee dangly but at the bottom but you wouldn't play with men then does this make you gay/bi?
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"As far as the ratio of female to male crossdressers goes I imagine the simple explanation of why there seems to be less F2M is male clothes are shite
It must also be hard for female cross dressers, I mean what can they do? Jeans and a shirt... bloody frustrating
Suit and tie? Bowler hat? Trousers that have the zipper on the wrong side?
What really is male or female clothing anyway?
What do men wear? What do women wear? But most importantly, what do men think that women wear before they dress up.."My point is that male and female clothing is only what is traditionally considered that way,there is no real reason why a particular item of clothing can only be for one sex or the other. Even a bra, you coud say that is for anyone who could use a little chest support,doesn't have to be a woman. If some guy feels any need or desire to wear one,so what? | |||
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"why do we only ever see male to female trans on here and NEVER female to male? I have my theories but interested to find out yours? "There are a few of us here
I would say the lowness of the numbers may be down to a few things. I'm easy as I love vaginal and anal sex and I have no interest in "topping", so having a non-working penis isn't a problem and looking for sex I'm absolutely fine with.
I don't have the risk of being fucked in a hole I hate, or being fucked "properly" by a "real man" because that's why I think I'm trans because I've just not been fucked right (it's like being fucked straight ), if a guy wanted to do that he is less likely to do it to someone who already looks like a bear! I don't have to worry about being seen as a lesbian if I was interested in women, or being looked down apon because me dick isn't real or good enough for sex.
I've gone through the surgeries I needed and I'm out the otherside reasonably happy with my body, there are loads of FtM who can't or don't want to have the multiple, major surgeries, they may not feel they can go down the online hookup route, or even want to. They may just want to go down the relationship route so that they have less risk of having to deal with any shit because then it's about more than just about sex and what may not be in their pants.
And some guys on here are absolute pricks and with going through enough stress with life, they don't want to have online idiots to deal with as well.
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"why do we only ever see male to female trans on here and NEVER female to male? I have my theories but interested to find out yours?
There are a few of us here
I would say the lowness of the numbers may be down to a few things. I'm easy as I love vaginal and anal sex and I have no interest in "topping", so having a non-working penis isn't a problem and looking for sex I'm absolutely fine with.
I don't have the risk of being fucked in a hole I hate, or being fucked "properly" by a "real man" because that's why I think I'm trans because I've just not been fucked right (it's like being fucked straight ), if a guy wanted to do that he is less likely to do it to someone who already looks like a bear! I don't have to worry about being seen as a lesbian if I was interested in women, or being looked down apon because me dick isn't real or good enough for sex.
I've gone through the surgeries I needed and I'm out the otherside reasonably happy with my body, there are loads of FtM who can't or don't want to have the multiple, major surgeries, they may not feel they can go down the online hookup route, or even want to. They may just want to go down the relationship route so that they have less risk of having to deal with any shit because then it's about more than just about sex and what may not be in their pants.
And some guys on here are absolute pricks and with going through enough stress with life, they don't want to have online idiots to deal with as well.
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" Right on que hey up fella "Good evening! Thought I might as well pop in and say something, my "Someone said female to male" radar was pinging haha! | |||
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" Right on que hey up fella
Good evening! Thought I might as well pop in and say something, my "Someone said female to male" radar was pinging haha! "
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" Right on que hey up fella
Good evening! Thought I might as well pop in and say something, my "Someone said female to male" radar was pinging haha!
There's plenty of you if you know where to look "Yep, there's a few on my block list on here and Fabguys. Not for bad reasons, just that I have no interest in meeting them. | |||
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" Right on que hey up fella
Good evening! Thought I might as well pop in and say something, my "Someone said female to male" radar was pinging haha!
There's plenty of you if you know where to look
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any " If a girl has fully transitioned (no male bits as you put it) she wouldn't be on this site as trans she'd be a woman | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any If a girl has fully transitioned (no male bits as you put it) she wouldn't be on this site as trans she'd be a woman" And there's lots of those, I promise you. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any If a girl has fully transitioned (no male bits as you put it) she wouldn't be on this site as trans she'd be a woman And there's lots of those, I promise you. " Has that guy found one yet? | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any If a girl has fully transitioned (no male bits as you put it) she wouldn't be on this site as trans she'd be a woman And there's lots of those, I promise you. Has that guy found one yet?" Lol. Probably not. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any If a girl has fully transitioned (no male bits as you put it) she wouldn't be on this site as trans she'd be a woman And there's lots of those, I promise you. Has that guy found one yet? Lol. Probably not. "Like I said.there aren't any...lol. | |||
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"I'd be interested in meeting a fully transitioned lady (no male bits) but as for a any with male bits then that's not for me. I've not seen a fully trans on here, not saying there aren't any If a girl has fully transitioned (no male bits as you put it) she wouldn't be on this site as trans she'd be a woman And there's lots of those, I promise you. Has that guy found one yet? Lol. Probably not.
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"So much heterophobia here
I thought the general consensus is that TVs and cds want the heteros
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" Straight men do not have sex with other men, irrespective of whether they put on women's clothes and makeup, or not; they are still men - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? Straight men do not have sex with other men, irrespective of whether they put on women's clothes and makeup, or not; they are still men - Mrs. J -" Just a thought! But maybe they look more a woman then you. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? Straight men do not have sex with other men, irrespective of whether they put on women's clothes and makeup, or not; they are still men - Mrs. J - Just a thought! But maybe they look more a woman then you." Nah, its because they want to suck cock and its easier if its dressed up like a french prozzie! | |||
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"Everybody has there own prefrences its there life's and they should live it how they wish and not be judged " But they should be honest, don't you think? | |||
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"Everybody has there own prefrences its there life's and they should live it how they wish and not be judged But they should be honest, don't you think? " year i agree they should be honest in there profiles and state what gender they are so both parties can make an informed desition weather to meet or not | |||
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"Everybody has there own prefrences its there life's and they should live it how they wish and not be judged But they should be honest, don't you think? year i agree they should be honest in there profiles and state what gender they are so both parties can make an informed desition weather to meet or not " And sexuality.. | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? Straight men do not have sex with other men, irrespective of whether they put on women's clothes and makeup, or not; they are still men - Mrs. J - Just a thought! But maybe they look more a woman then you." I don't think so, Sir - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as" When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience. | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience. "
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"Everybody has there own prefrences its there life's and they should live it how they wish and not be judged But they should be honest, don't you think? year i agree they should be honest in there profiles and state what gender they are so both parties can make an informed desition weather to meet or not And sexuality.." This bit gets me! What difference does that make....your happy to put up what your looking for and class yourself as bi I presume. But not all people are the same and is it anyone's business but their own? And for the record I'm straight not looking for men or tvs...does this make me better then you? No its bugger all difference. Just get sick of the same judgmental people popping up on these threads. If you disagree with it keep the fuck away. | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience.
I totally understand and respect the premise of your post and fully accept the legitimacy of the reasoning ...
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Talk like that insults every gay and bi on the site ..... "Fuck 'em. | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience.
I totally understand and respect the premise of your post and fully accept the legitimacy of the reasoning ...
But I'm horrified by the clumsy nature of your admission that being straight was a relief.....
Talk like that insults every gay and bi on the site .....
Fuck 'em. "Clem is that a supportive fuck'em on behalf of the gay and bi community or are you nailing your colours to the homophobia bigot mast ? | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience.
I totally understand and respect the premise of your post and fully accept the legitimacy of the reasoning ...
But I'm horrified by the clumsy nature of your admission that being straight was a relief.....
Talk like that insults every gay and bi on the site .....
Fuck 'em.
Clem is that a supportive fuck'em on behalf of the gay and bi community or are you nailing your colours to the homophobia bigot mast ?"I do that every time i suck a cock ironically. | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience.
I totally understand and respect the premise of your post and fully accept the legitimacy of the reasoning ...
But I'm horrified by the clumsy nature of your admission that being straight was a relief.....
Talk like that insults every gay and bi on the site .....
Fuck 'em.
Clem is that a supportive fuck'em on behalf of the gay and bi community or are you nailing your colours to the homophobia bigot mast ?
I do that every time i suck a cock ironically."Ewwwwww.... | |||
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Thought this was serious till I saw who posted it "It was a real life event. And the thought did cross my mind as i sucked her cock. But I'm faaar from straight! | |||
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"A staright guy playing with a TV or TS isn't straight imo" Thats your opinion, a full-op transexual is a woman in every way apart from chromosomes. | |||
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"A staright guy playing with a TV or TS isn't straight imo Thats your opinion, a full-op transexual is a woman in every way apart from chromosomes." you are confusing opinons with facts.a mutilated penis is not a real vagina like some sort of transplant lol.still a bloke like you said cromosomes and all.so technically It would mean whoever is fucking them is bi or kidding themselves on, eitherway it dosent really matter. | |||
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"Are ts not classed as women then? "You just asked that for real? | |||
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"Are ts not classed as women then?
You just asked that for real? "Yeah he did , and why not ? A transexual has either undergone a sex change procedure , or fully identifies as being of the opposite sex . What's the problem ? | |||
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"Are ts not classed as women then?
You just asked that for real? "I was being sarcastic | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" They are not straight, they are 'fab straight' | |||
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"Are ts not classed as women then?
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"Ok look a TV is a man. A TS is either becoming a woman or is a woman. Cant believe I have to explain this to a grownup OP." What sex was the TS who fucked me in the ass? | |||
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"Ok look a TV is a man. A TS is either becoming a woman or is a woman. Cant believe I have to explain this to a grownup OP. What sex was the TS who fucked me in the ass?" If it was a TS in the early stages of pre op , and the hormones hadn't kicked in , it would be quite possible for her to fuck you in the ass . In this case he is a she . If it was a TS who chooses to live as a woman , but isn't planning to go through any procedures or hormones , again , it's her choice to live as a woman despite the fact that she has a cock . One would presume she is full time in her choice to live as a woman , so he is a she . Any other examples , such as a guy who cross dresses , or a tv would be whatever sex you wanted them to be . In their mind they be female , and should be addressed as such , but it's hard to see it as clearly as that when they are fucking you up the ass . Anyway , hopefully that helps Clem , best bet is to enjoy it whatever sex you think they are | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy??" I would say 95% are fantasy, they never end up meeting | |||
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"Just a question really. What is it about Straight Men that They want to play with TVS Or TS???. Always wondered, is it a fetish thing or just a deep hidden fantasy?? I would say 95% are fantasy, they never end up meeting "Guys generaly will meet up,are eager to do so.. its Trans that are generaly the fantasists on this website.. You only got to peruse the TS/TV most fabbed photopool to see the solo digital fiction that dominates and gluts it daily as evidence of the amount of Tranny fantasists on the website... | |||
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"Ok look a TV is a man. A TS is either becoming a woman or is a woman. Cant believe I have to explain this to a grownup OP. What sex was the TS who fucked me in the ass? If it was a TS in the early stages of pre op , and the hormones hadn't kicked in , it would be quite possible for her to fuck you in the ass . In this case he is a she . If it was a TS who chooses to live as a woman , but isn't planning to go through any procedures or hormones , again , it's her choice to live as a woman despite the fact that she has a cock . One would presume she is full time in her choice to live as a woman , so he is a she . Any other examples , such as a guy who cross dresses , or a tv would be whatever sex you wanted them to be . In their mind they be female , and should be addressed as such , but it's hard to see it as clearly as that when they are fucking you up the ass . Anyway , hopefully that helps Clem , best bet is to enjoy it whatever sex you think they are "Lives as a woman, cute boobs, hard cock! | |||
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"Ok look a TV is a man. A TS is either becoming a woman or is a woman. Cant believe I have to explain this to a grownup OP. What sex was the TS who fucked me in the ass? If it was a TS in the early stages of pre op , and the hormones hadn't kicked in , it would be quite possible for her to fuck you in the ass . In this case he is a she . If it was a TS who chooses to live as a woman , but isn't planning to go through any procedures or hormones , again , it's her choice to live as a woman despite the fact that she has a cock . One would presume she is full time in her choice to live as a woman , so he is a she . Any other examples , such as a guy who cross dresses , or a tv would be whatever sex you wanted them to be . In their mind they be female , and should be addressed as such , but it's hard to see it as clearly as that when they are fucking you up the ass . Anyway , hopefully that helps Clem , best bet is to enjoy it whatever sex you think they are "Another expert on the subject of "is it a man"? "Is it a woman"? it is what the birth certificate states, a man can never become a woman, because they can not bare children, a woman can never become a man as they can't impregnate a woman, FACT, People can change their way of thinking, change the look of their body, but they can not change their gender, | |||
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"Guys are just being dishonest.. Give yourself any title u want but at the end of the day you're meeting another guy .. simple as When i was being fucked in the ass by a transsexual I felt comforted by the fact that as she was legally female, it was a totally straight experience.
I totally understand and respect the premise of your post and fully accept the legitimacy of the reasoning ...
But I'm horrified by the clumsy nature of your admission that being straight was a relief.....
Talk like that insults every gay and bi on the site ..... "what qualifies you to speak for every gay/bi person on this site? Don't speak for me, I'm a grown man, or am I a woman when I dress? Either way,,,, I'm not offended in the least, | |||
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"Ok look a TV is a man. A TS is either becoming a woman or is a woman. Cant believe I have to explain this to a grownup OP. What sex was the TS who fucked me in the ass? If it was a TS in the early stages of pre op , and the hormones hadn't kicked in , it would be quite possible for her to fuck you in the ass . In this case he is a she . If it was a TS who chooses to live as a woman , but isn't planning to go through any procedures or hormones , again , it's her choice to live as a woman despite the fact that she has a cock . One would presume she is full time in her choice to live as a woman , so he is a she . Any other examples , such as a guy who cross dresses , or a tv would be whatever sex you wanted them to be . In their mind they be female , and should be addressed as such , but it's hard to see it as clearly as that when they are fucking you up the ass . Anyway , hopefully that helps Clem , best bet is to enjoy it whatever sex you think they are
Another expert on the subject of "is it a man"? "Is it a woman"? it is what the birth certificate states, a man can never become a woman, because they can not bare children, a woman can never become a man as they can't impregnate a woman, FACT,
People can change their way of thinking, change the look of their body, but they can not change their gender, "What an archaic attitude What I said related to the terminology used to describe a transgender pre op male to female , and a tv or cross dresser , whichever was fucking Clem up the ass at the time . I wasn't saying they were male or female , I was saying he would be a she in all cases , as this would be the preferred term to use . I'm certainly no expert , but from experience I would expect this to be the case . | |||
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"Ok look a TV is a man. A TS is either becoming a woman or is a woman. Cant believe I have to explain this to a grownup OP. What sex was the TS who fucked me in the ass? If it was a TS in the early stages of pre op , and the hormones hadn't kicked in , it would be quite possible for her to fuck you in the ass . In this case he is a she . If it was a TS who chooses to live as a woman , but isn't planning to go through any procedures or hormones , again , it's her choice to live as a woman despite the fact that she has a cock . One would presume she is full time in her choice to live as a woman , so he is a she . Any other examples , such as a guy who cross dresses , or a tv would be whatever sex you wanted them to be . In their mind they be female , and should be addressed as such , but it's hard to see it as clearly as that when they are fucking you up the ass . Anyway , hopefully that helps Clem , best bet is to enjoy it whatever sex you think they are
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