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"The reason is because it's incredibly easy for a woman to get laid if she wants. There will always be someone for them to fuck if they want to. But for a bloke to be a ladies man he needs to be good looking, charming, have money, and have good game. This will probably make a lot of women angry but it's pretty true." I heard this sentiment explained best by Jim Jeffries, so don't pull me up for using it. "Every single time a man sleeps with a lot of women, he’s called a stud. But if a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she’s called a slut, and people think this is unfair… Nah. It’s completely fair, and I’ll tell you why, alright? ‘Cause it’s fuckin’ easy to be a slut. It’s fuckin’ hard to be a stud. To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, be well-dressed, have nice shoes, and a fake job. To be a slut you just have to be THERE. There are fat ugly sluts out there, there are no fat ugly studs." I don't agree with the venom he uses to get that point across, but I feel the crux of the idea has merit. How many girls on fab, yes even the less physically attractive ones, make out that they know what they like, and they won't be looking at anything other than exactly what turns them on. They don't put any effort in, and people wonder why the same ten guys have slept with half the site. They happen to fall into the "desirable traits" category. | |||
"I ended up in a conversation about why there is a disparity between guys and girls who manage to sleep around are treated, with guys being praised and girls being shamed for the exact same behavior. It got me curious. What's everyone's thoughts on the shit the fairer sex get for being more sexually open and honest, whilst guys get looked up to for it?" OP As far as I'm concerned I'm all for girl power. Women should be treated as equals in all aspects of life! Why shouldn't anybody go and do what they want or need when it comes to sex? In fact when it comes to reading signs, I'm pretty bad. I'd much rather the woman be direct and up front | |||
"I prefer to meet ladies who shag lots. " ![]() ![]() | |||
"Definite double standard. It's a shame one (male or female) can't just enjoy themselves without judgement. " very true x ![]() | |||
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"The reason is because it's incredibly easy for a woman to get laid if she wants. There will always be someone for them to fuck if they want to. But for a bloke to be a ladies man he needs to be good looking, charming, have money, and have good game. This will probably make a lot of women angry but it's pretty true." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
"The reason is because it's incredibly easy for a woman to get laid if she wants. There will always be someone for them to fuck if they want to. But for a bloke to be a ladies man he needs to be good looking, charming, have money, and have good game. This will probably make a lot of women angry but it's pretty true." As much as people may hate to admit it, this is pretty much true. Women are the selectors. Men are biologically engineered to spread their seed in as many places as possible. Testosterone's a fucking menace. It's quite a crass statement but... A key that opens many locks is a very useful key indeed. A lock that can be opened by any key is worthless. ***waits for the barrage of rage*** | |||
"The reason is because it's incredibly easy for a woman to get laid if she wants. There will always be someone for them to fuck if they want to. But for a bloke to be a ladies man he needs to be good looking, charming, have money, and have good game. This will probably make a lot of women angry but it's pretty true. I heard this sentiment explained best by Jim Jeffries, so don't pull me up for using it. "Every single time a man sleeps with a lot of women, he’s called a stud. But if a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she’s called a slut, and people think this is unfair… Nah. It’s completely fair, and I’ll tell you why, alright? ‘Cause it’s fuckin’ easy to be a slut. It’s fuckin’ hard to be a stud. To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, be well-dressed, have nice shoes, and a fake job. To be a slut you just have to be THERE. There are fat ugly sluts out there, there are no fat ugly studs." I don't agree with the venom he uses to get that point across, but I feel the crux of the idea has merit. How many girls on fab, yes even the less physically attractive ones, make out that they know what they like, and they won't be looking at anything other than exactly what turns them on. They don't put any effort in, and people wonder why the same ten guys have slept with half the site. They happen to fall into the "desirable traits" category. " I saw a girl have this as her tinder profile and like you kind of agree.... Now I don't like the term slut (as im an avid fan of the word in a positive way) but the point is valid. The majority of women (all sizes, shapes, hair etc etc) can pretty much be guaranteed a lay most nights of the week. But for a man, you've got to have the above. You've got to know how to talk to the opposite sex, have just the right amount of confidence and cockiness without being a prick. As someone said, you need game... Sadly a lot of men don't have this. A friend of mind use to to an experiment. On a night out he'd walk up to girls and simply say "fancy a fuck".. He got turned down a lot... But each night he'd get laid.. Sure he had to speak to a shit load of women and take a few slaps.... But he got to take a girl home. Now switch that scenario. If a girl did it (no matter her looks) do you think she'd have to ask the same amount or not... I know for sure she wouldn't. So as the opening line says, you women have it easy! ![]() | |||
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"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. " Think you missed the point... Studs are the opposite of what you are stating here.... And high standards is not confined to women, everybody can have high standards. Everyone can have low... Don't pigeon hole man ![]() ![]() | |||
"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. " This is simply not true, but showcases exactly why men stop trying with some women. Why does wanting to follow a natural biological urge mean men are "using" women. Also, research suggest women cumming hugely aids conception, so considering we can all agree men are driven by an urge to procreate, we can also safelt assume they would prefer you to enjoy yourself too. Also, why does something need to be "on offer"? All of your comments are clearly aimed towards immature, less experienced men, but your expecting a solid performance from a guy who's likely found it hard to get any exposure. Who the fuck is expected to pass their driving test the first time they get in a car. This isn't exclusive to guys, I've had girls who were shit in bed, didn't do oral, and didn't get me to climax without my help. It's exactly this attitude which keeps the same men fucking every girl, because he had the first leg up to begin with. Men who are so good looking, well endowed, rich or all of the above, that girls have the "it doesn't matter if he shit, I'll guide him through" attitude. These men learn, get better, get a reputation, and still have everything else they had originally on offer, and these guys become studs, and understand the power you've bestowed upon them, and continue to be assholes so that you'll continue to give the "lesser mortals" the time of day, assuming they're all just "fuckbois". And really, "fuckbois"??? When little mix ideologies go mainstream. | |||
"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. Think you missed the point... Studs are the opposite of what you are stating here.... And high standards is not confined to women, everybody can have high standards. Everyone can have low... Don't pigeon hole man ![]() ![]() think i understood perfectly what was said. men have to work for it and women don't have to, and someone is fucking those ugly sluts so it must be the men working who are for it. i also sense some resentment, not from you personally, but from men who have to work for it. coz why should they have to work for it when even ugly women don't have to. they've nothing to offer a woman mate, pure and simple. | |||
"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. Think you missed the point... Studs are the opposite of what you are stating here.... And high standards is not confined to women, everybody can have high standards. Everyone can have low... Don't pigeon hole man ![]() ![]() I'm hoping my earlier response to you gets a reply. | |||
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"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. " You seem to be making lots of wrong assumptions. You missed the point by a country mile. | |||
"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. This is simply not true, but showcases exactly why men stop trying with some women. Why does wanting to follow a natural biological urge mean men are "using" women. Also, research suggest women cumming hugely aids conception, so considering we can all agree men are driven by an urge to procreate, we can also safelt assume they would prefer you to enjoy yourself too. Also, why does something need to be "on offer"? All of your comments are clearly aimed towards immature, less experienced men, but your expecting a solid performance from a guy who's likely found it hard to get any exposure. Who the fuck is expected to pass their driving test the first time they get in a car. This isn't exclusive to guys, I've had girls who were shit in bed, didn't do oral, and didn't get me to climax without my help. It's exactly this attitude which keeps the same men fucking every girl, because he had the first leg up to begin with. Men who are so good looking, well endowed, rich or all of the above, that girls have the "it doesn't matter if he shit, I'll guide him through" attitude. These men learn, get better, get a reputation, and still have everything else they had originally on offer, and these guys become studs, and understand the power you've bestowed upon them, and continue to be assholes so that you'll continue to give the "lesser mortals" the time of day, assuming they're all just "fuckbois". And really, "fuckbois"??? When little mix ideologies go mainstream. " i'm saddened the term fuckbois went of use so quickly tbh. if you notice with 'studs' though they can't get to women with a certain amount of sexual experience coz she knows exactly what he's like...a slimy lothario with nothing to offer except creepiness. and so he has to go for younger women who are a little more naive?...ooh and that is why people think girls going with older men is creepy and repulsive, just worked that out, ta. ![]() | |||
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"I don't know what you're gibbering on about but you've gone way off topic lol" Yeah think you and me are on the same page with this one. ![]() | |||
"I don't know what you're gibbering on about but you've gone way off topic lol" I agree lovely, I think she's judging all men by what I can only imagine is her own bad experiences. It's a terrible attitude to have. As for the comment implying guys go with younger, less experienced girls when they can't get real women, I think she really just means girls who some guys would consider more attractive and less jaded. | |||
"So it basically boils down to men will stick their dick in anything but women will not let just anyone in their fanny and so they get slagged off for it, for making their own sexual choices? Men are studs coz they'll fuck anything but it's harder for them to get a fuck? haha, please. See, this is why we have higher standards in the first place. We know you're using us. We know you're likely to be selfish in bed and so not even give us good sex, you'll probably cum so job done on the mans part, we are less likely to. We know you might slag us off for fucking you so easily. We aren't turned on by your offer of cock unlike you who are turned on by the thought of our fanny that wasn't even offered to you personally. You probably don't even do foreplay unless forced to. So yeah if you've nothing at all to offer a woman you are gonna fail coz we pretty much risk all of the above if we decide to fuck you. You need to prove you are none of the above. I stopped meeting fuckbois ages ago and only meet lady pleasers now. You seem to be making lots of wrong assumptions. You missed the point by a country mile." except as female i'll give you some of my experience ok? before the internet all you had to do was chat to a woman at a bar, maybe offer to buy her drink, make her feel comfortable in your company, and maybe she'd be into you. coz you're not acting like a selfish dick basically, you're maybe fun and that is sexy in itself too. you probably didn't feel like you were making an effort coz you were enjoying it too. and that is how people had NSA sex; introduction, show you are caring about the lady and her needs, don't wave your dick in her face like some sex pest, act like she means something other than a hole to poke even if she isn't. now it's all: look at my dick, i have one, here take it, go on. well, no thank you coz you're basically offering me a dildo that does less than the dildo i have at home right here and can use right now. and if that's all you're offering i'll pass. so men, without social skills you are gonna fail. if you go for the naive women who fall for charmers you're gonna fail coz you need the banter for that too. if all you offer women is your dick you are probably gonna fail unless she is only looking for cock. many women are but many more are not. if you think all women want are looks then you're very much mistaken, you're just offering women nothing they want or offering it in a way that bothers them or gives them cause for concern. and how do you know what women want? that is the first step to finding out if they are even compatible with you and so likely to get a reply. #notallmen i know but enough for me to think this is how men in general are. | |||
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"and the only people taking offence are those who have slagged off women... sorry are only women allowed to be criticised for what they are or are stereotyped as?" No one has slagged off women, so don't jump on that feminist bandwagon. And I don't think anyone is taking offence to the gibberish you're spouting either. You've just completely gone off the rails spouting nonsense about men that has no relevance to the original post or anything else that was posted. You've just gone on some odd man hating rant | |||
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"and the only people taking offence are those who have slagged off women... sorry are only women allowed to be criticised for what they are or are stereotyped as? No one has slagged off women, so don't jump on that feminist bandwagon. And I don't think anyone is taking offence to the gibberish you're spouting either. You've just completely gone off the rails spouting nonsense about men that has no relevance to the original post or anything else that was posted. You've just gone on some odd man hating rant " no i haven't, all i said was they have nothing to offer the women they are seeking sex with. which it shouldn't even have to be explained really, it should be obvious. that's not even off topic coz someone posited why men find it harder than women to get sex, that is why they find it hard, they have nothing to offer that women are seeking. it's funny really coz guys think women who love sex are easy in the first place and without justification for that. | |||
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"and the only people taking offence are those who have slagged off women... sorry are only women allowed to be criticised for what they are or are stereotyped as? No one has slagged off women, so don't jump on that feminist bandwagon. And I don't think anyone is taking offence to the gibberish you're spouting either. You've just completely gone off the rails spouting nonsense about men that has no relevance to the original post or anything else that was posted. You've just gone on some odd man hating rant " I haven't even read anything but sounds like he knows whats going on so i'm with #TeamLilly ![]() | |||
" *****Kept enough to reference your comment***** #notallmen i know but enough for me to think this is how men in general are." So what you're saying that guy needs to be have the confidence to approach a woman he finds attractive, be able to afford to buy her a drink, and have had enough experience talking to other real women that he has at least a small amount of skill in maintaining a conversation? Why does he need to make the first move? Why does he need to buy you a drink? Why is the conversation about him charming you? At what point are you making any effort? I'm sorry that you have clearly experienced some assholes, and that some guys have wronged you or others you know by bragging about their conquests and revealing details they shouldn't. I'm even all too familiar with the idiots with no social skills who barrage you with pictures of dicks you don't want. Your literally judging the majority based in your experience of the vocal minority who don't even have the decency to read your profile. But upon reading your profile, I can see why a lot of the more genuine ones might be intimidated or find that you're not what their looking for. Lastly, I have clearly taken offence and I dont "slag women off", and judging and group of people based on a group stereotype or even on anything but their individual behaviour is literally the defenition of prejudice. Are all people who have tattoo's wierdos? Are all people with unnatural hair colours immature? | |||
" Are all people who have tattoo's wierdos? Are all people with unnatural hair colours immature? " end of discussion as far as i'm concerned. | |||
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" Are all people who have tattoo's wierdos? Are all people with unnatural hair colours immature? end of discussion as far as i'm concerned. " I said all that, and all you saw was a personal attack. Standard | |||
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"Any sluts fancy a shag? ![]() I said I'm washing my hair...stop messaging ffs ![]() | |||
"I ended up in a conversation about why there is a disparity between guys and girls who manage to sleep around are treated, with guys being praised and girls being shamed for the exact same behavior. It got me curious. What's everyone's thoughts on the shit the fairer sex get for being more sexually open and honest, whilst guys get looked up to for it?" Because it takes effort/desirability for a man to be able to get laid lots. It does not require even a remote amount of effort for women to do the same. Most men I have met who were both desired bachelors and had some standards were either in possession of good looks, wealth or charm. I have met plenty of unkept women who could run through legions of men simply for having a vagina. I also met plenty of highly experienced women who were piss poor in bed. Anyone with a modicum of sense already knows this. I dont have anything against women who sleep around...hell, thats why this site exists. But please dont expect to be praised for it. Same way I dont go around praising someone for being able to consume a hamburger. | |||
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"I think the ease of getting a shag explains why men are paraded as sluts but not necessarily why women are slut shamed. Going with the food analogy above - you're not shamed at eating food unless it's an 'excessive' amount. Does that mean when women sleep around they are having an excessive amount of sex? Why is that considered excessive though? I think that answering the latter question will give the reason as to why women are 'slut shamed'. And that's because for centuries (in the majority of cultures) women's sexuality has been seen as something that should be repressed unless used for reproductive purposes. That stigma still exists widely." I suppose you could look at it as traditionally a woman who shave around and doesnt get pregnant is likley barren and therefore a poor mate. Contraception fucks that concept but society is slow to adapat | |||
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"what IU dont get is women who admittedly say they are sub...but frequent a swinging scene(in most cases in my good few years...I see this 'relationship' fail)... Am i missing something a woman wanting to be a woman and ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A MAN HAVING ANY WORD IN HER DESIRE?...I'll be bombarded bt bdsm tyopes but Istill stand by this: who controls wqho you have sex with? who? " Dude even by my standards thats some bad typos | |||
"what IU dont get is women who admittedly say they are sub...but frequent a swinging scene(in most cases in my good few years...I see this 'relationship' fail)... Am i missing something a woman wanting to be a woman and ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A MAN HAVING ANY WORD IN HER DESIRE?...I'll be bombarded bt bdsm tyopes but Istill stand by this: who controls wqho you have sex with? who? Dude even by my standards thats some bad typos" I was about to reply to that other person on the thread who went way off topic.. But this post distracted me way too much. ![]() | |||
"The reason is because it's incredibly easy for a woman to get laid if she wants. There will always be someone for them to fuck if they want to. But for a bloke to be a ladies man he needs to be good looking, charming, have money, and have good game. This will probably make a lot of women angry but it's pretty true. I heard this sentiment explained best by Jim Jeffries, so don't pull me up for using it. "Every single time a man sleeps with a lot of women, he’s called a stud. But if a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she’s called a slut, and people think this is unfair… Nah. It’s completely fair, and I’ll tell you why, alright? ‘Cause it’s fuckin’ easy to be a slut. It’s fuckin’ hard to be a stud. To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, be well-dressed, have nice shoes, and a fake job. To be a slut you just have to be THERE. There are fat ugly sluts out there, there are no fat ugly studs." I don't agree with the venom he uses to get that point across, but I feel the crux of the idea has merit. How many girls on fab, yes even the less physically attractive ones, make out that they know what they like, and they won't be looking at anything other than exactly what turns them on. They don't put any effort in, and people wonder why the same ten guys have slept with half the site. They happen to fall into the "desirable traits" category. " It's a poor analogy (from a very poor comedian), because however you dress it up it means a woman is being shamed for her sexual choices, and a man is not. Women are expected by societies around the world to not be free to make their own choices, it's as simple as that. It's changing, but at a glacial pace at best. | |||
"what IU dont get is women who admittedly say they are sub...but frequent a swinging scene(in most cases in my good few years...I see this 'relationship' fail)... Am i missing something a woman wanting to be a woman and ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A MAN HAVING ANY WORD IN HER DESIRE?...I'll be bombarded bt bdsm tyopes but Istill stand by this: who controls wqho you have sex with? who? Dude even by my standards thats some bad typos I was about to reply to that other person on the thread who went way off topic.. But this post distracted me way too much. ![]() ![]() | |||
"what IU dont get is women who admittedly say they are sub...but frequent a swinging scene(in most cases in my good few years...I see this 'relationship' fail)... Am i missing something a woman wanting to be a woman and ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A MAN HAVING ANY WORD IN HER DESIRE?...I'll be bombarded bt bdsm tyopes but Istill stand by this: who controls wqho you have sex with? who? Dude even by my standards thats some bad typos" I read that like 4 times, and I'm still not sure I get what he's saying. | |||
" Are all people who have tattoo's wierdos? " Some are, some aren't, the ones that are, were most likely weird before getting tattoo'd. ![]() | |||
"what IU dont get is women who admittedly say they are sub...but frequent a swinging scene(in most cases in my good few years...I see this 'relationship' fail)... Am i missing something a woman wanting to be a woman and ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A MAN HAVING ANY WORD IN HER DESIRE?...I'll be bombarded bt bdsm tyopes but Istill stand by this: who controls wqho you have sex with? who? Dude even by my standards thats some bad typos I read that like 4 times, and I'm still not sure I get what he's saying. " neither do i | |||
" Are all people who have tattoo's wierdos? Some are, some aren't, the ones that are, were most likely weird before getting tattoo'd. ![]() I have tattoo's haha. And in my time, I've also had non natural hair colours, but stopped dying it when it began to affect jobs. I do not believe these stereotypes are correct. I was simply using these two examples to point out why you can't judge people based on them, as the user who I was replying to appears to have both tattoos and unnatural hair colours. | |||
" Are all people who have tattoo's wierdos? Some are, some aren't, the ones that are, were most likely weird before getting tattoo'd. ![]() Weirdo ![]() ![]() | |||