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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." yes, unfortunately, a lot of the time it is...not too hard maybe, but pointless; often just gets 'why not'. or abuse...and once thats happened a few times it seems a lot easier to just delete.. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox?" This ![]() | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox?" Yeah but that's not quite the same though is it to be fair. I don't see people's message's as being junk mail even if they've not read my profile and most people are on here to actually receive messages. | |||
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"There should be like a guide for new users to break down the messaging math for them." but they won't read it, anymore than they read the site advice on it.. | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." Oh I'm sure you would love nothing more than spending a couple of hoyrs a day replying no to people you don't find attractive... | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." I think delete is the best way. Couples and single females get hundreds or more of messages a day. Could you be arsed to reply to EVERY message that you weren't interested in. It lets you know they aren't interested. Simple and done. I block anyone who deletes my message without a reply so I can't accidentally message them again when I'm between my supporters pack. Makes life so simple and saves getting my underpants in a twist. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Yeah but that's not quite the same though is it to be fair. I don't see people's message's as being junk mail even if they've not read my profile and most people are on here to actually receive messages. " It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." Think about it. Ladies get hundreds of messages so sending a polite no thanks to each would take beards. I get maybe 4 messages a week so sending a polite no thanks is far easier. ![]() | |||
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"If it's pretty clear our profile hasn't been read we delete. " In most cases I try to be polite, say no thank you. But sometimes I just feel irritated, when a guy doesn't match what I'm looking for, as I've stated in profile. Either couldn't be bothered to read it, or chose to ignore what I wrote. It just wastes my time. ![]() | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Yeah but that's not quite the same though is it to be fair. I don't see people's message's as being junk mail even if they've not read my profile and most people are on here to actually receive messages. It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here" Nar I'm watching Corrie...we think differently it's as simple as that. | |||
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"Well, this thread turned from "I wonder what other people think" type of thing, to "this guy is an idiot, should just get the message." I thought this community would be somewhat nice about it. I was wrong. (Not the entire community, aint branding the loot) Sorry for being curious people, won't happen again." no one has called you an idiot...people have tried to explain, very clearly, the reason a lot of people don't reply with a 'no thank you'...it's not what you want to hear,obviously...but at least now you can just see it for what it is and not be bothered by it. | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." You know what happened when I sent a polite no to someone earlier? I got a sarcastic comment back about my perfectly penned reply and how he was so impressed he might hang it over his bed. I said that if he'd bothered to read my profile then he would have realised his perfectly penned message was pointless (I very clearly say I'm not interested in fucking men). He then accused me of being closed-minded and told me no messages were pointless and that he had read my profile. Clearly the ignorant douche didn't care about what it said or my right to decide who I do or do not fuck. So you know what this has taught me? To go back to just deleting messages that don't interest me. I don't owe you a reply no matter how carefully crafted your message is. | |||
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"The FAQs are very clear on this , you may feel it's rude but the site says otherwise. You have to appreciate how many messages some people get on here, if they replied to every message they would never have time to meet. My advice would be focus on your inbox rather than your outbox, no point worrying about the ones who aren't interested." I completely understand and am sympathetic towards everyone. I understand that mostly every couple and single female gets hundreds and hundreds of messages and I also understand that it's very difficult to reply to a lot of these messages, I was simply curious. I am beginning to realise how much of a ball ache this single thread has been. | |||
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"And this from the guy who wants to block just about anyone who says anything to him!! hahahahahahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() Nope, if you read it correctly, I said offer me something, I will politely decline, keep offering and I will bloke. Don't make out I am a complete arsehole. I'm only slightly an arsehole. | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." I would delete on name alone. I imagine people here are not looking for inexperience at all. People do not reply They look at your name your profile and your photos. If they do not like what they see it is deleted. Also, if they have filters set then to reply actually invalidates and means you can then keep messaging. So read profiles if they are compatible message if they are not looking for the same things as you forget it. Chin up get to some clubs and chat on forums. See if you can get some sexy pics up, ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." But what we're all saying is basically don't take it to heart. I explained it this way to a male friend on here the other day & he was less pissy about it after.... If you message someone & they get 20 messages a day, in the window that they have to check potentials, she'll most likely have a quick read then look at your profile. If you don't tick what she's looking for then it's easier for her to delete & possibly block too. This saves you both time, her as she knows you won't appear in searches & you because you won't msg here again in a few weeks due to forgetting about the first one. Reading a msg, checking a profile & then replying takes time, it's just quicker for all doing it this way! Keep going OP ![]() | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." I wish we got harassed......... chance would be a fine thing lol | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here" So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." what difference would a no really make? Other than gibe you the opportunity to ask why not? | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now. what difference would a no really make? Other than gibe you the opportunity to ask why not?" Exactly ! | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). " You're junk email in my inbox. Particularly if you can't be arsed to read my profile. Be lucky I just delete half the crap I get rather than saying what I really think. | |||
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"Well, this thread turned from "I wonder what other people think" type of thing, to "this guy is an idiot, should just get the message." I thought this community would be somewhat nice about it. I was wrong. (Not the entire community, aint branding the loot) Sorry for being curious people, won't happen again." This questions has been asked a thousand times at least, a quick forum search could have got you what you wanted to know. Ask for opinions and you get them. For every message you get we probably get 100. It's in the FAQs that no reply - no thanks but so many men think they are owed something on here. And the 'community' gets bored of that ![]() | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). You're junk email in my inbox. Particularly if you can't be arsed to read my profile. Be lucky I just delete half the crap I get rather than saying what I really think. " You response is merely an ad hominem one, rather than addressing the point I was making - which just reinforces it! ![]() | |||
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"DELETE!!!!!last nite after 3 messages and photo from me I got blocked and I wasn't rude or disrespectful she asked me a few questions which I answered ,,, I got no photo from her and I didn't push that either !!!!#bewildered " Why bewildered? You're not for them so why leave it open for you to hassle them again? ![]() | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). You're junk email in my inbox. Particularly if you can't be arsed to read my profile. Be lucky I just delete half the crap I get rather than saying what I really think. You response is merely an ad hominem one, rather than addressing the point I was making - which just reinforces it! ![]() it doesn't equate them to a takeaway meal, it equates their message to junk mail. you delete their message same as you would with a take away menu you don't want. just because you open your inbox does not mean you appreciate every message you get in it. and tbh on a fuck site pretty much everything is objectification and revolves around that. that's what lust is, doesn't mean anyone appreciates that but without lust this site would pretty much stop and nobody would be on it. so you don't like being objectified? you can guarantee just about every single female being approached, via message or whatever, already has been. if men feel dehumanised then that's a shame, coz i hate that myself and often feel like men are ordering me like a takeaway with some of the shit they send me. it doesn't feel nice. what you gonna do? stop all the abusive men from being on here to create a safe environment for us all to be able to reply? force them to read what we want and give a shit about it? you can't do nothing, none of you men can. neither can us women so we happily ignore anyone we want to and not need to explain why. | |||
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"DELETE!!!!!last nite after 3 messages and photo from me I got blocked and I wasn't rude or disrespectful she asked me a few questions which I answered ,,, I got no photo from her and I didn't push that either !!!!#bewildered " She asked you sone questions and obviously didn't like one if your replies. Not exactly bewildering | |||
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"The OP 'inexperienced Steve ' asked a reasonable question and has got the correct explanation why people ( single women mainly ) don't reply as they just can't reply to 100 messages a day ! The interesting thing though is the couples who replied . One said they didn't reply as their profile showed they weren't looking for single men . That's fine but why don't they adjust their filters so single men can't message them ? Another couple said they got into an e mail ping pong after they told a single guy they weren't meeting anyone at the moment . That's even worse as they have totally wasted the single guys time as they could have added they weren't meeting anyone at the moment to their profile or status bar and he may not have wasted time contacting them. It's not just the single guys who are inconsiderate on the site . Our advice to inexperienced Steve is forget Fab you are talking 100+ single women to every guy so you've little chance . Go onto normal dating sites where the women want sex too but the female/male balance is much more favourable " My profile is very clear about me not meeting guys and I still get messages asking if I'm free for a meet. If people are rude and don't read profiles they don't deserve a polite reply from me. As for how my filters are set, I happen to enjoy conversing with some guys. Maybe I'm doing it wrong as I enjoy a chat not just looking for a fuck. | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). " Well bloody said ![]() | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). You're junk email in my inbox. Particularly if you can't be arsed to read my profile. Be lucky I just delete half the crap I get rather than saying what I really think. You response is merely an ad hominem one, rather than addressing the point I was making - which just reinforces it! ![]() Well, Ill agree to differ on the whole 'takeaway meal' analogy. But that's how it read to me. See, I don't consider this a 'fuck site' - time was, a few years ago, even suggesting that it was so would have been met with derision and ridicule. Times change, and maybe that changed attitudes as well? I deliberately avoided anything about replying to messages (though I appreciate the context of the thread). 'Replies' are a divisive argument, and its much harder to argue a negative, which it exactly what the 'message / reply' paradigm is. Likewise, choosing to ignore, bock, whatever - its a divisive argument. My take has always been that you treat others how you wish to be treated. I wanted to point out the objectification and dehumanisation slant that the thread was taking. As you point out, some of the shit women receive makes them feel like a takeway meal. Well, men can experience that just the same. I dont want trivialise either. I know its endemic of the system and its not something that my diatribe will change. I dont have the answers, and its a straw man argument to suggest so. But allowing it to perpetuate without at least challenging the thinking or the behavior means its always going to be the same old 'shitshow' - or it gets worse. I wouldn't want someone new to the site or the forums to think that the best they can expect is to be treated like a Happy Meal. | |||
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"It would be nice if all men read your profile though,there's next to nothing on mine as it is it's not like it's going to take age's to read!" And being hidden makes it even easier. Bet you still get messages saying great profile. | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." What part of 'no reply is a reply' don't you get? | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). You're junk email in my inbox. Particularly if you can't be arsed to read my profile. Be lucky I just delete half the crap I get rather than saying what I really think. You response is merely an ad hominem one, rather than addressing the point I was making - which just reinforces it! ![]() The fact of the matter is that single men are very much treated like Happy Meals on here at the whim and fancy of the fantasies of couples and single females. That much has become clear to me recently with the final recognition of what things really are like on here. Single men don't find success on Fab as swingers? They just get dissed with remarks along the lines of not expecting a #instashag on here, or just going for paid sex outside or if they're younger single men around my age bracket straight up told to just go and hit the nightclubs and "leave the swinging for the mature couples to partake in". Why? Because we're too plentiful that's why. The dehumanisation of single men in the swinging community is a community-inbuilt mentality and fact that has slipped into common acceptance without any challenge against it whatsoever. Fine, there are lots of single men who are rotten eggs and ruin it for everyone else. So do couples, so do single females. So why aren't those two groups subject to the same derision and automatic standoffish attitude and distrust that single men face on here? Anyone here wanna try and dispute this fact with me? | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry. What part of 'no reply is a reply' don't you get?" Probably the 'implied' part, Or the oxymoron. ![]() | |||
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"I had one this morning that said 'Wanna meet now' I politely said no thanks, so then got back 'Why you on here if you have such a low sex drive' But he didn't stop there and went on to say that I 'Must be a lesbo' Sometimes I wonder why I bother! Lol" You could of been on your period! Derrr some guys just don't think! ![]() | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Best illustration ever! ![]() Alright then if that is the case I think us single men on here should make it a point from now on that if we get messaged from couples or single females we have no interest in we should straight up delete their messages and be done with it. No polite "thanks no thanks", no response, no nothing. Sounds fair? I find it vomit-inducing that we've sunk to the level whereby so many on here consider single male interest in them to be on par with junk mail in the mailbox. Christ. Seven years of swinging and my jadedness is really starting to catch up. | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). You're junk email in my inbox. Particularly if you can't be arsed to read my profile. Be lucky I just delete half the crap I get rather than saying what I really think. You response is merely an ad hominem one, rather than addressing the point I was making - which just reinforces it! ![]() that's how it's usually used, seen quite a few people use that term myself in that way. i've only been here 3 years and seen the derision myself. swinging mainly is a lifestyle that revolves around sexual encounters it seems and this site enables that so it's a fuck site to me, with some social interaction (although i mainly get social interaction from people who don't want sex so not really living -what i think- the swinging experience imo). and judging from the forums there was way more sex, and body part objectification on here when i first joined to how it is now. so yes the site has changed a little. i feel it's got less judgemental also. i don't feel the personal interaction has changed though, for myself personally. like my messages are not better, i don't feel safer, i get the same old shit and sometimes a better quality of shit. as not a man it probably is different for me than you. but you don't wanna discuss that and that's fine i said it as an extension of the OP of the topic also. and my questions about what you gonna do were entirely rhetoric, i know the men who are a problem themselves have to change and nobody can force this. i do wonder how many guys enjoy being objectified and used though (off the topics i see posted on here) and how many feel like you? it never bothered me at one time even, when i first joined, but now it does. a lot. and derogatory objectification has always bothered me. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Best illustration ever! ![]() clearly you havent bothered reading any of the many many posts above from women explaining exactly why they delete..and yes, i see no reason at all that couples and single men wouldnt do exactly the same. It really only seems to be the men with a very over inflated egos that are whining about this...or new, like the OP, in which case its a reasonable question.. | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). " The takeaway menu analogy is neither objectifying nor dehumanising for one simple reason: the overwhelming majority of the messages we are talking about are not personal in the least. They are "hello" messages, copypasta and clichés, they are not addressed for the recipient and typically they do not communicate anything intimate about the poster (dick pics don't count ![]() | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Best illustration ever! ![]() Well maybe because us single men tend to believe in treating other fellow swinger couples and female singles and each other with more respect. Unless it's one of those copypasta sort of messages looking for a quick roll in the hay, we would actually appreciate couples or single females showing enough interest to message us that even if we do turn them down we'd at least spare them a "thanks no thanks" message instead of just deleting. Some call it inflated egos, like some here have already done. Some see it as human decency and treating the other party as a human being with feelings and stridently refusing to dehumanise them. See it how you will. It's quite telling who on here I'll definitely avoid at all costs. | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." Maybe you're messaging people (like me) who aren't looking? I get masses of messages even though I make it clear what I'm looking for, if people don't read my profile, I don't read their messages | |||
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" It's exactly the same. It's an unsolicited, speculative piece of mail that the sender hopes will pique your interest, from someone you don't know and have not interacted with previously. If a takeaway menu catches my eye I may give them a try at some point. If it doesn't then I throw the menu in the bin. Tell me how this differs from messages on here So its generally acceptable to consider another human being as nothing more than a takeway meal, just because its a swinging site? I think thats possibly one of the worst pieces of objectification and dehumanisation Ive ever read. What an analogy to use! It embodies a total lack of consideration for the sender as a human being. You reduce the entire experience into something that is bought, consumed and then discarded. Does this only apply because the OP is a single male? Or is this how all swingers should view themselves - objectified into being an item on a menu? There's enough people agreeing with the 'Takeway Menu' analogy to make me seriously believe that this becoming a popular notion. Its ideology like this that's fueling the dysfunctional behavior running rife through the scene. No wonder so many here are intent of fucking each other over just to get to the next piece of ass. I hope that the entire spectrum of swingers remember that we are a community of thinking, feeling human beings - and that we all have enough self respect not to demean ourselves to being treated as 'A Leggy Blonde with a side order of anal'. - (...and yes, the counterpoint considered will undoubtedly be about abusive messages received but thats a straw man argument in this case). The takeaway menu analogy is neither objectifying nor dehumanising for one simple reason: the overwhelming majority of the messages we are talking about are not personal in the least. They are "hello" messages, copypasta and clichés, they are not addressed for the recipient and typically they do not communicate anything intimate about the poster (dick pics don't count ![]() completely agree..there's nothing less personal than a message saying 'you have sexy eyes'..when all they can see is an arse!..especially when you get the exact same message off someone 3, 4 times in a couple of hours..really makes you feel special!!! | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now. Maybe you're messaging people (like me) who aren't looking? I get masses of messages even though I make it clear what I'm looking for, if people don't read my profile, I don't read their messages " Reading your profile if you're having problems with single men messaging you because they didn't bother reading the part about you not being interested in meeting men 121 etc, the "block all single men from messaging" option exists for a reason. Use it. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Best illustration ever! ![]() 'us single men'?? have you read any of the posts above?...there is a very small percentage of men on here who appear to read and take any notice of profiles..i wish it was the other way round but its not..it is not 'treating someone with respect' to completely ignore their profile criteria, then become abusive when they don't get a favourable reply....how is that respectful? and its pretty 'dehumanising' to be messaged by people who can't even remember if they've messaged you half an hour before because all they can see is a pair of tits in front of them! | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Best illustration ever! ![]() Its also not very decent to expect a lady to spend 6+ hours a day replying to messages when they have a life away from fab and as I said in my earlier post 198 messages at 2mins each to say a decent no thanks is most of the free time in my day gone today How exactly is it human deceny to expect that from another person? | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now. what difference would a no really make? Other than gibe you the opportunity to ask why not? Exactly !" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now. Maybe you're messaging people (like me) who aren't looking? I get masses of messages even though I make it clear what I'm looking for, if people don't read my profile, I don't read their messages Reading your profile if you're having problems with single men messaging you because they didn't bother reading the part about you not being interested in meeting men 121 etc, the "block all single men from messaging" option exists for a reason. Use it. " why do you get to tell someone how to run their profile?..and you've just confirmed the reason messages get deleted....men dont read profiles very often. its that simple. if they can't be arsed to do that , why should they expect a reply at all? | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." TRUE FACT: every woman on this site spent the first 2 weeks replying No, to the 10,000 messages a day they received, and the buttons on the keyboards wore out, so now they can't do it anymore. Alternative true fact, too many No messages on one Internet server cause the disks to run backwards from all the negative energy. So in order to save the planet, women are asked to just delete negative interest messages ![]() | |||
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"I've just received a one word message off of a guy In his profile he says please reply to my well thought out messages ![]() ![]() I'm currently trying to find out why a man who doesn't match my preferences at all has bothered to send me a message. So for, all he's come up with is he thought he would give it a bash, no harm in trying, thought he would change my mind, I should give him a chance etc. That is rude, disrespectful, objectifying and utterly self entitled. | |||
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"I've just received a one word message off of a guy In his profile he says please reply to my well thought out messages ![]() ![]() Which is why it's just easier not to reply to the chancers like that and be labelled a rude bitch with a stick up her arse ![]() | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." Some people, mostly single girls, would literally spend hours saying no thanks. It's the nature of it, and whilst it's annoying, I'd have to say we've come to terms with it. | |||
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"I've just received a one word message off of a guy In his profile he says please reply to my well thought out messages ![]() ![]() ![]() I usually do but occasionally have had enough coffee and sunshine to hold a conversation to point out the error of their ways. The upshot was he wanted to get his dick wet and as a woman on a sex site, I'm here to service any man that demands it. | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now. Maybe you're messaging people (like me) who aren't looking? I get masses of messages even though I make it clear what I'm looking for, if people don't read my profile, I don't read their messages Reading your profile if you're having problems with single men messaging you because they didn't bother reading the part about you not being interested in meeting men 121 etc, the "block all single men from messaging" option exists for a reason. Use it. " I don't need to as there are single guys who message me telling me when they're going to clubs I visit etc and that's great, I meet guys that way. However when I see messages that aren't relevant I just delete- doesn't bother me, I'm merely answering the question about why women instantly delete | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." If it's very clear from a message, that my profile hasn't been read, i delete without any response.... I find it more impolite someone sending me a message when it's clear they haven't bothered reading my profile. (I even say that) Also, by not replying, it can stop any more messages, as the site will block 'spamming' The site faqs state it's not impolite not to reply. I will answer no thanks to those that i can tell have at least taken the time to read my profile | |||
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"There's a huge difference between mediated communication and face to face/social communication. Mediated communication isn't the best, nor is it particularly effective (within the definition of this site), nor is it particularly healthy if excersized over the other. Additionally, it's considered inhuman. Now take this site which is here for the purpose to allow people to explore a very very human act, it's actually an oxymoron, a paradox. It dehumanises particular elements, which simply can't be controlled because of the mechanics of the site. I understand the frustration of people sending messages only to see them unread, or discarded. Effort put in or not. What I don't understand is that they fail to see the simple mechanics of the site, and how it effects everyone, not just them. And in my opinion, that in itself shows a particular egocentric attitude. To tell others how they should act and manage their use of the site to suit them, despite their point of view, that just narcissistic. Personally I'm not going to get twisted about how others use the site, I'm going to focus on how we use it, as well as those who are like minded, and therefore have a much funner time for it. " Well said ![]() | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." To be honest I'd take the deletion of your message as a "no" that doesn't need to be confirmed in writing | |||
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"If it's pretty clear our profile hasn't been read we delete. " This. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." ..and the word no leaves us open to endless why nots or abuse, i always used to be polite and reply to every message but when you wake up to 58 unread messages would you have time to be replying no thanks and get drawn into an endless conversation as to why you don't want to meet, and do you reply to every piece of junk mail saying no thanks that comes through your letter box? As stated in FAQ section no reply means not interested! | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." An instant delete to a messege is nothing to do with manners. Its following the FAQ guidlines. I find it rude when people call me rude for following the sites giidlines. | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." I do reply at times, at the moment I have 758 unread messages in my inbox. It's not that I'm ignorant or rude, I just simply don't have the time to reply to all. There's probably messages in there that I won't ever actually see from people I'd really enjoy meeting or chatting to. It's happened before when I've gone through my messages, cleared a load, got to a well written one that's clearly taken some effort, made me laugh but by the time I've gotten to it the user has left the site and I've felt gutted. Having to trawl through hundreds of messages that just say "Hi, I'm in your area today and can guarantee you a good time" and then realising you've missed a good one because your inbox is rammed full of crap is a pain for us ladies too. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Best illustration ever! ![]() There's nothing to stop you doing whatever you wish. Reply or delete. It's all in you hands. Just as your dick is in your hands and you can caress it, shove it somewhere or just let it be... ![]() | |||
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"The OP 'inexperienced Steve ' asked a reasonable question and has got the correct explanation why people ( single women mainly ) don't reply as they just can't reply to 100 messages a day ! The interesting thing though is the couples who replied . One said they didn't reply as their profile showed they weren't looking for single men . That's fine but why don't they adjust their filters so single men can't message them ? Another couple said they got into an e mail ping pong after they told a single guy they weren't meeting anyone at the moment . That's even worse as they have totally wasted the single guys time as they could have added they weren't meeting anyone at the moment to their profile or status bar and he may not have wasted time contacting them. It's not just the single guys who are inconsiderate on the site . Our advice to inexperienced Steve is forget Fab you are talking 100+ single women to every guy so you've little chance . Go onto normal dating sites where the women want sex too but the female/male balance is much more favourable " they could have added they weren't meeting anyone at the moment to their profile or status bar and he may not have wasted time contacting them. They ignore the status bar and the header for profile, mine states that if there's no meet posted, I'm not meeting, guess what? I get hundreds of messages asking for meets when I don't have one posted, I get told all sorts of crap, "just chancing it, thought I'd try, worth a go" etc, ![]() | |||
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"After taking time to write a message and add a face pic and it gets deleted immediately. A polite no would suffice. I understand a lot of women and couples on here get somewhat harassed on her from other single blokes. But as I said a "no" wouldn't be too hard now." Delete, block, and move on mate. Plenty more fish in the sea, and blocking people not interested in you means you get to concentrate on people who may be ![]() | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry. I do reply at times, at the moment I have 758 unread messages in my inbox. It's not that I'm ignorant or rude, I just simply don't have the time to reply to all. There's probably messages in there that I won't ever actually see from people I'd really enjoy meeting or chatting to. It's happened before when I've gone through my messages, cleared a load, got to a well written one that's clearly taken some effort, made me laugh but by the time I've gotten to it the user has left the site and I've felt gutted. Having to trawl through hundreds of messages that just say "Hi, I'm in your area today and can guarantee you a good time" and then realising you've missed a good one because your inbox is rammed full of crap is a pain for us ladies too. " What a problem to have! I really feel your pain! It must be awful...! ![]() ![]() | |||
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" The fact of the matter is that single men are very much treated like Happy Meals on here at the whim and fancy of the fantasies of couples and single females. That much has become clear to me recently with the final recognition of what things really are like on here. Single men don't find success on Fab as swingers? They just get dissed with remarks along the lines of not expecting a #instashag on here, or just going for paid sex outside or if they're younger single men around my age bracket straight up told to just go and hit the nightclubs and "leave the swinging for the mature couples to partake in". Why? Because we're too plentiful that's why. The dehumanisation of single men in the swinging community is a community-inbuilt mentality and fact that has slipped into common acceptance without any challenge against it whatsoever. Fine, there are lots of single men who are rotten eggs and ruin it for everyone else. So do couples, so do single females. So why aren't those two groups subject to the same derision and automatic standoffish attitude and distrust that single men face on here? Anyone here wanna try and dispute this fact with me? " What I have observed is exactly what you have said, Just look at the replies when a single man says hes giving up and leaving here, "Bye", "What took so long?", "Dont let the door hit you on the way out", etc etc. And worse, and frankly other rude and offensive replies. Contrast that when a single woman says she is leaving, for what ever reason. Youll find all sort of people fawning over her, begging her not to go. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox?" Fair point well made | |||
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"Because sometimes saying no normally enters into either a torrent of abuse or a pleading conversation which turns into a torrent of abuse." Not to mention a reply means any filters later applied would not apply | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? This ![]() Agreed ![]() | |||
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"Because sometimes saying no normally enters into either a torrent of abuse or a pleading conversation which turns into a torrent of abuse. Not to mention a reply means any filters later applied would not apply " I this happens whether you reply or not...? x | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Fair point well made" Well not really,do you see the message's you send as being junk mail,are you like a takeaway leaflet,do you want to be looked on like that?! I know I for one don't. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Fair point well made Well not really,do you see the message's you send as being junk mail,are you like a takeaway leaflet,do you want to be looked on like that?! I know I for one don't." Yeh I don't either.... hence I use the marketplace analogy. | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox? Fair point well made Well not really,do you see the message's you send as being junk mail,are you like a takeaway leaflet,do you want to be looked on like that?! I know I for one don't." Totally agree ![]() | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. " don't think that would work though. most of us who get loads of messages would understand that it's not possible for someone to reply to say no thanks and we'd accept that. | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. " Great idea Ignite! Just open a new profile as a single guy, the type you would like to meet, then message some women and couples. You'll love it lol! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. don't think that would work though. most of us who get loads of messages would understand that it's not possible for someone to reply to say no thanks and we'd accept that." but it must be so disheartening when your messages go unanswered all the time,I've only ever known what that's like on a few occasions and that's generally on a dating site. I may feel slight disappoint at the time,but to have it on every message I send would be pretty pants. | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. Great idea Ignite! Just open a new profile as a single guy, the type you would like to meet, then message some women and couples. You'll love it lol! ![]() ![]() I don't think I could cope I'm a fragile little bunny at the moment,I just want everyone to be nice to each other | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. Great idea Ignite! Just open a new profile as a single guy, the type you would like to meet, then message some women and couples. You'll love it lol! ![]() ![]() See that's assuming women don't ever send messages already that get ignored, you just don't get many of them complaining about it like 3sum said we accept it. | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. don't think that would work though. most of us who get loads of messages would understand that it's not possible for someone to reply to say no thanks and we'd accept that. but it must be so disheartening when your messages go unanswered all the time,I've only ever known what that's like on a few occasions and that's generally on a dating site. I may feel slight disappoint at the time,but to have it on every message I send would be pretty pants. " dunno, i don't feel sorry for anyone fishing for a sympathy fuck tbh, don't see why i'd be sad over someone being unable to get something as shallow as NSA sex either. | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. Great idea Ignite! Just open a new profile as a single guy, the type you would like to meet, then message some women and couples. You'll love it lol! ![]() ![]() The majority of people in here are genuinely nice people, always remember that. My suggestion was mostly in jest ![]() | |||
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"A regular conversation thread. 'Hi' - 'Hello' 'How are you?' - 'fine thanks you, yourself?' 'Great, fancy meeting up?' - 'sorry, but we're not meeting guys/gals/couples right now' 'Why not?' - 'because we've chosen not to right now' 'But why not, what's wrong with me?' - 'nothings wrong, we're sure you're lovely but we're simply not meeting...' 'If you give me a chance, I'm sure I could persuade you otherwise' -'we wish you luck on fab, but we won't be meeting you. Sorry, and have fun' 'Well fuck you then, time wasting idiots' . . . Or we could simply delete and block. " Wow sounds strangely familiar.... | |||
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" dunno, i don't feel sorry for anyone fishing for a sympathy fuck tbh, don't see why i'd be sad over someone being unable to get something as shallow as NSA sex either. " I normally think the same,however the way I'm feeling at the moment though I think I'd give out sympathy shags ![]() | |||
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" dunno, i don't feel sorry for anyone fishing for a sympathy fuck tbh, don't see why i'd be sad over someone being unable to get something as shallow as NSA sex either. I normally think the same,however the way I'm feeling at the moment though I think I'd give out sympathy shags ![]() you're not in a strange mood, and i do get your points, but you have to be hard faced on here or people take advantage. i really wouldn't pity fuck anyone coz i hate manipulation and people who play on emotions. and that's basically what guys try to do when they say we should have 'manners', like we should be grateful for their offer of their dick and say no so they aren't constantly waiting in their inbox for someone to say yes... honestly, it's all shit at the end of everything because they are just looking for someone to put their dick in and want to be acknowledged that they are doing something right or wrong when really they should be observing men who are doing it right, observing women and seeing what they want, and then trying to seduce us. another problem is clueless people are trying to do things they are not ready to do. and then ask how they can do that like it's that easy? why not google how to do stuff even, why not bother to get to know what people are like and how they work before trying to interact with them? men think being nice means you're easy as well so another reason why i don't feel sorry for self pitying men. and i don't care if that makes me hard hearted, i learn from experience. | |||
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"If it's pretty clear our profile hasn't been read we delete. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If someone sends a message that clearly shows they haven't read our profile then why should we be bothered to read their message. It works both ways. " Good answer ![]() | |||
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"We really need to start treating each other with a bit more respect,obviously not the tossers that send us abusive message's however,but to treat someone else's message like it's contaminated is the pits. Maybe we need to change roles for a day,all women be men then we can see how crap it is to have all our messages either instantly deleted or left unread,I'm thinking certain people will rethink the junk mail analogy. " You are suggesting that empathy and understanding would make people respect each others' predicament, but I don't think understanding does solve anything. My boyfriend and I both have separate accounts so we've experienced both sides first and second hand. He tends to moan, I tend to moan, we have pondered, discussed and repeatedly argued about the respective gender challenges on here... There is no solution and nothing to alleviate the irritation caused by a system that is dramatically imbalanced (totally not the site's fault btw, this a societal thing at large). The ONLY thing I can think of that might help would be for women to up their game - not by sending more "thanks but no thanks" replies but by being more proactive, risking the approach, initiating contact and doing some pursuing/wooing/seducing... rather than sitting back passively considering their options. | |||
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"A regular conversation thread. 'Hi' - 'Hello' 'How are you?' - 'fine thanks you, yourself?' 'Great, fancy meeting up?' - 'sorry, but we're not meeting guys/gals/couples right now' 'Why not?' - 'because we've chosen not to right now' 'But why not, what's wrong with me?' - 'nothings wrong, we're sure you're lovely but we're simply not meeting...' 'If you give me a chance, I'm sure I could persuade you otherwise' -'we wish you luck on fab, but we won't be meeting you. Sorry, and have fun' 'Well fuck you then, time wasting idiots' . . . Or we could simply delete and block. Wow sounds strangely familiar...." certainly does although worse words than idiots are generally used | |||
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"Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." | |||
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"I am with you on this one, despite the comments and feelings and input of others. Some people ask for a specific which id feel I meet and ping..message deleted straightaway I get people can get loads of unwanted messages and it must be hard at times to go through stuff but it is a tad rude just to go DELETE... it must be lovely to be in the position to be so resolute and sure just to delete... Personally, I don't care if they say no. And manners generally don't cost a thing. If someone takes the time to message me, the least I can do is reply, regardless of what the answer may be. This is just my opinion, didn't want to cause a forum war here. Was just curious. Sorry." You carry on being upset when your messages are deleted unread then, I mean obviously they want to meet you but decide to delete your message instead. | |||
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"I am with you on this one, despite the comments and feelings and input of others. Some people ask for a specific which id feel I meet and ping..message deleted straightaway I get people can get loads of unwanted messages and it must be hard at times to go through stuff but it is a tad rude just to go DELETE... it must be lovely to be in the position to be so resolute and sure just to delete... " Why is it rude ? If you read the FAQ it says a deleted messege means 'no thanks'. | |||
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"it must be lovely to be in the position to be so resolute and sure just to delete..." once you've been here a while you get an idea of what you want and what's realistically on offer, and it's easy to dismiss guys then. no pics, then i cba to chat to you and then find out i don't even find you physically attractive so bye. you say you're into what i want but have nothing on the profile to reflect that or even worse have something that contradicts this? bye. and them's only the first couple of things to pop into my head. longer you're here the easier it is to figure out, in less than a several second glance at your profile, on whether i think i'm compatible at all. if a make wrong choices that's down to me but there's so many ways where it is actually easy to make the choice you think is so hard. | |||
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"It's frustrating after you have read their profile, wrote a decent message and attached face pics, that the message is just instantly deleted but it's their prerogative to do that, and I just take it as their way of saying sorry you're not for us. " We can fully understand that, and that is why we always reply to everyone who has obviously taken the trouble to read (and understand) our profile and bothered to put a decent message together. Even if it is just a no thanks. We don't get as many as some of the single ladies on here but around half a dozen messages per day would be about average for us. Of those, five will be the usual one liners (in many cases not even a full line) which will all be deleted, as will any using txt spk. "Hows U" will usually win the race to the delete button. So far today we've had two messages, One deleted and one answered. | |||
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"It must be really frustrating after making the effort. I suppose that a delete is a definite no at least, if a message goes unanswered you are left wondering." guess it's just evolved to be the easiest and fairest way of doing it,for both parties. (wouldn't say No to a Yes from you, though ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Do you send a polite no letter in response to every takeaway leaflet or piece of junk mail that comes through your letterbox?" ![]() | |||
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"It's frustrating after you have read their profile, wrote a decent message and attached face pics, that the message is just instantly deleted but it's their prerogative to do that, and I just take it as their way of saying sorry you're not for us. We can fully understand that, and that is why we always reply to everyone who has obviously taken the trouble to read (and understand) our profile and bothered to put a decent message together. Even if it is just a no thanks. We don't get as many as some of the single ladies on here but around half a dozen messages per day would be about average for us. Of those, five will be the usual one liners (in many cases not even a full line) which will all be deleted, as will any using txt spk. "Hows U" will usually win the race to the delete button. So far today we've had two messages, One deleted and one answered. " well you have another message now hope you like | |||
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"I say no thank you, we're not all instant deleters. I may miss one or two occasionally, but I eventually get around to looking at my unread messages. " I assume it's much easier for you tho.....your filters block single men! But I see no problem in messages being deleted...it's easier, and less grief than replying "no thanks..... you are ugly and not suitable". Maybe the OP would prefer that? | |||
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