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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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By *enny79TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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Goldie Hawn being well known, of course, as the premier anthropologist/human behaviourologist of our time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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well,there we are then..vacuous twat! actually more current social anthropologists are much more likely to suggest that the opposite is true.. completely blowing that die hard 'i can't help it because i'm a man' excuse out of the water! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did she actually say that or was it taken out of context?"
haven't sen the footage, but she often says spectacularly stupid things..she's been making a living out of being a twee,giggling asshole for over 40 years.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Did she actually say that or was it taken out of context?
haven't sen the footage, but she often says spectacularly stupid things..she's been making a living out of being a twee,giggling asshole for over 40 years.."
"Twee" great word!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Did she actually say that or was it taken out of context?
haven't sen the footage, but she often says spectacularly stupid things..she's been making a living out of being a twee,giggling asshole for over 40 years..
"Twee" great word!!"
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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Factually incorrect |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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Goldie Hawn being well known, of course, as the premier anthropologist/human behaviourologist of our time."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well,there we are then..vacuous twat! actually more current social anthropologists are much more likely to suggest that the opposite is true.. completely blowing that die hard 'i can't help it because i'm a man' excuse out of the water!"
I'd heard it from that side too. Although i couldn't quote a source |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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nooooooooo ive wasted my life .........devastated |
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By *ptimusDMan
over a year ago
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Well, I don't know about Goldie Hawn but I've seen figures from studies, ranging from 9 - 25% given as the number of children who aren't the genetic offspring of the man who thinks he's their father within a marriage.
I've also seen a study that found that of a sample of 15,000 men who claim to have never cheated on their wives, just over a third, say it's out of fear of being caught. In other words, given a scenario where they're guaranteed their wives will never find out, they will sleep with other women.
In my opinion, "staying faithful because you have no desire for anyone else but your spouse" isn't by far the overwhelming reason for couples staying faithful.
Now, in the purest sense of fidelity as it is expected in society, that should be the only reason.
Infidelity has been going on since the beginning of time. So, the question of whether fidelity is a natural state for humans, obviously can't be written off as an unserious question. |
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"Well, I don't know about Goldie Hawn but I've seen figures from studies, ranging from 9 - 25% given as the number of children who aren't the genetic offspring of the man who thinks he's their father within a marriage.
I've also seen a study that found that of a sample of 15,000 men who claim to have never cheated on their wives, just over a third, say it's out of fear of being caught. In other words, given a scenario where they're guaranteed their wives will never find out, they will sleep with other women.
In my opinion, "staying faithful because you have no desire for anyone else but your spouse" isn't by far the overwhelming reason for couples staying faithful.
Now, in the purest sense of fidelity as it is expected in society, that should be the only reason.
Infidelity has been going on since the beginning of time. So, the question of whether fidelity is a natural state for humans, obviously can't be written off as an unserious question."
Evolution ensures there won't be a single answer for everyone because adaptive strategies are usually successful. The best estimates usually converge around 70% of the population predisposed towards multiple partners and 30% predisposed towards monogamy. It's not one or the other. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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Goldie Hawn being well known, of course, as the premier anthropologist/human behaviourologist of our time."
Genuinely laughing out loud |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution "
monogamy was introduced by humans remember, I think the main influence was the family unit and for many it still works ha |
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution "
Evolution doesn't take a single path though. For some monogamy would have been a reproductive advantage, for others a hinderance. |
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution monogamy was introduced by humans remember, I think the main influence was the family unit and for many it still works ha "
Actually the early begginings of the human race (homosapiens) weren't monogamous they were polygamists so though they had family units they weren't the stereotypical ones depicted today in us modern humans they were family units that encouraged sleeping with multiple partners
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution
Evolution doesn't take a single path though. For some monogamy would have been a reproductive advantage, for others a hinderance. "
yes because people have free will and makes choices but from a basic evolutionary standpoint we're not a species designed for monogamy |
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution
Evolution doesn't take a single path though. For some monogamy would have been a reproductive advantage, for others a hinderance.
yes because people have free will and makes choices but from a basic evolutionary standpoint we're not a species designed for monogamy "
The answer isn't one or the other. Some of our ancestors gained reproductive advantage by focussing all their resources into monogamous relationships and others gained advantage doing the opposite. The polyamorous approach was the more successful of the two which is why more people are predisposed to it now. But ~30% of the population are still naturally predisposed towards monogamy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution monogamy was introduced by humans remember, I think the main influence was the family unit and for many it still works ha
Actually the early begginings of the human race (homosapiens) weren't monogamous they were polygamists so though they had family units they weren't the stereotypical ones depicted today in us modern humans they were family units that encouraged sleeping with multiple partners
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yes but as the brain evolved and saw the sense of the family unit and the benefits to human life and an orderly systematic ritualised lifestyle then monogamy became the accepted way of life ,I mean is it great to be a grandad ? That is a question because I'm not one yet |
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution monogamy was introduced by humans remember, I think the main influence was the family unit and for many it still works ha
Actually the early begginings of the human race (homosapiens) weren't monogamous they were polygamists so though they had family units they weren't the stereotypical ones depicted today in us modern humans they were family units that encouraged sleeping with multiple partners
yes but as the brain evolved and saw the sense of the family unit and the benefits to human life and an orderly systematic ritualised lifestyle then monogamy became the accepted way of life ,I mean is it great to be a grandad ? That is a question because I'm not one yet "
A societal preferance for monogamy is linked to inheritance rights. Fews things spark bloodshed quicker than disputed inherentance. Especially when one's inheritance is a throne. |
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution monogamy was introduced by humans remember, I think the main influence was the family unit and for many it still works ha
Actually the early begginings of the human race (homosapiens) weren't monogamous they were polygamists so though they had family units they weren't the stereotypical ones depicted today in us modern humans they were family units that encouraged sleeping with multiple partners
yes but as the brain evolved and saw the sense of the family unit and the benefits to human life and an orderly systematic ritualised lifestyle then monogamy became the accepted way of life ,I mean is it great to be a grandad ? That is a question because I'm not one yet "
No the brain didn't evolve past it it was societally reprogrammed over time to think manogamy is "right". As I've previously said if that was the case there would be no necessity for swinging, yet it exists
If humans were truely sexually managomous we'd never be able to shag Anyone else even in the event of death of a partner, that however isn't the case.
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution
Evolution doesn't take a single path though. For some monogamy would have been a reproductive advantage, for others a hinderance.
yes because people have free will and makes choices but from a basic evolutionary standpoint we're not a species designed for monogamy
The answer isn't one or the other. Some of our ancestors gained reproductive advantage by focussing all their resources into monogamous relationships and others gained advantage doing the opposite. The polyamorous approach was the more successful of the two which is why more people are predisposed to it now. But ~30% of the population are still naturally predisposed towards monogamy. "
Do you have a link to that statistic as it honestly seems too high at 30% I'd be more inclined to say it was around 5% in all honesty |
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution
Evolution doesn't take a single path though. For some monogamy would have been a reproductive advantage, for others a hinderance.
yes because people have free will and makes choices but from a basic evolutionary standpoint we're not a species designed for monogamy
The answer isn't one or the other. Some of our ancestors gained reproductive advantage by focussing all their resources into monogamous relationships and others gained advantage doing the opposite. The polyamorous approach was the more successful of the two which is why more people are predisposed to it now. But ~30% of the population are still naturally predisposed towards monogamy.
Do you have a link to that statistic as it honestly seems too high at 30% I'd be more inclined to say it was around 5% in all honesty "
It was either "Drive" by Daniel Pink or "The Modern Scholar: Evolutionary Psychology" by Allen MacNeill. I can't remember which sorry, but it's based on aggregating multiple studies as a sort of consensus ballpark figure.
Seperately studies of infedility have shown than 60-70% of married people are unfaithful at some point which suggests that most people aren't good at fighting their natural predisposition. |
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Even the singles here that would have a manogamous relationship is they find it, can't technically be monogamous as they sexual haven't been, they've had previous sexual partners, they are merely socially manoganmous because they believe it's "right" whilst in the dynamics of a relationship |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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I'm kinda inclined to agree, but then again I don't want to marry one either. Plus I'd even get bored of banging Tom Hardy solidly after a couple of years. |
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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I'm kinda inclined to agree, but then again I don't want to marry one either. Plus I'd even get bored of banging Tom Hardy solidly after a couple of years."
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Yes I agree with the post and it comes from a wealth of experience and is true.
This is exactly what swinging solves,I know most vanilla people would love to be swingers but they cannot master their own emotions and therefore cannot swing,this is the key difference between the two groups of people. |
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"Yes I agree with the post and it comes from a wealth of experience and is true.
This is exactly what swinging solves,I know most vanilla people would love to be swingers but they cannot master their own emotions and therefore cannot swing,this is the key difference between the two groups of people."
It's not true for the reasons recently explained but carry on as you were. |
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"Yes I agree with the post and it comes from a wealth of experience and is true.
This is exactly what swinging solves,I know most vanilla people would love to be swingers but they cannot master their own emotions and therefore cannot swing,this is the key difference between the two groups of people.
It's not true for the reasons recently explained but carry on as you were. "
It is very true, when a guy has so many women he instantly becomes a superstar amoung his friends and gain s respect, why is it so? It is because all the guys know this is how they feel inside but social conditioning puts them in check.
I love swinging because it is not reckless, at least to a large degree, some guys cannot handle having so many women , some can. Plus swinging has enabled women to do the same thing. |
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By *orum TrollWoman
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"If the human race was meant to be monogamous there would be no place for cheating or indeed swinging
That implies the human race was designed.
It was by nature through years of evolution monogamy was introduced by humans remember, I think the main influence was the family unit and for many it still works ha "
so, when you are in the infatuation stages of love (with only one person) and wanting to know all about that person only (coz they are your main interest), idealising them as a partner (coz you think they're 'the one') that is society shaping you? really...
even swingers go on about the 'danger's of falling for someone else and leaving a partner for someone else. they don't truly believe in pologamy either, the ones who think they should have a partner they swing with and do not enter relationships with others. |
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"Yes I agree with the post and it comes from a wealth of experience and is true.
This is exactly what swinging solves,I know most vanilla people would love to be swingers but they cannot master their own emotions and therefore cannot swing,this is the key difference between the two groups of people.
It's not true for the reasons recently explained but carry on as you were.
It is very true, when a guy has so many women he instantly becomes a superstar amoung his friends and gain s respect, why is it so? It is because all the guys know this is how they feel inside but social conditioning puts them in check.
I love swinging because it is not reckless, at least to a large degree, some guys cannot handle having so many women , some can. Plus swinging has enabled women to do the same thing."
If you read the other posts and then you'll see flaws in the arguement. |
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"Yes I agree with the post and it comes from a wealth of experience and is true.
This is exactly what swinging solves,I know most vanilla people would love to be swingers but they cannot master their own emotions and therefore cannot swing,this is the key difference between the two groups of people.
It's not true for the reasons recently explained but carry on as you were.
It is very true, when a guy has so many women he instantly becomes a superstar amoung his friends and gain s respect, why is it so? It is because all the guys know this is how they feel inside but social conditioning puts them in check.
I love swinging because it is not reckless, at least to a large degree, some guys cannot handle having so many women , some can. Plus swinging has enabled women to do the same thing.
If you read the other posts and then you'll see flaws in the arguement. "
I like being real and I know how most guys feel inside, from when I was young I started noticing that having just one girl was not for me, I had multiple girlfriends and I never hid the girls from each other, I introduced them to each other and told them this is me, you are very free to leave me if you don't like it, they accepted me as I was.
Fastforward to the future and here is swinging, same thing only now some of the ladies are even married. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't about Ms Hawn But I did see a programme That explored human relationships that came up with a theory that Humankind are not really programmed to be Monogamous, but the needs of society and religion and other factors make us conform to it. How valid that is I don't know. I do know however they did not confine it to one gender. |
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"Yes I agree with the post and it comes from a wealth of experience and is true.
This is exactly what swinging solves,I know most vanilla people would love to be swingers but they cannot master their own emotions and therefore cannot swing,this is the key difference between the two groups of people.
It's not true for the reasons recently explained but carry on as you were.
It is very true, when a guy has so many women he instantly becomes a superstar amoung his friends and gain s respect, why is it so? It is because all the guys know this is how they feel inside but social conditioning puts them in check.
I love swinging because it is not reckless, at least to a large degree, some guys cannot handle having so many women , some can. Plus swinging has enabled women to do the same thing.
If you read the other posts and then you'll see flaws in the arguement.
I like being real and I know how most guys feel inside, from when I was young I started noticing that having just one girl was not for me, I had multiple girlfriends and I never hid the girls from each other, I introduced them to each other and told them this is me, you are very free to leave me if you don't like it, they accepted me as I was.
Fastforward to the future and here is swinging, same thing only now some of the ladies are even married."
Yes so you are in the 70%. But the original post is an absolute statement that doesn't recognise the other 30%. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Goldie hawn has said so:
“Men are not suppose to see one woman and only desire one woman…that’s just science. If the species doesn’t mutate, it’ll die…This is a man. That is what he is on earth for.”
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Whether you agree or disagree I don't see any reference to cheating in this. |
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By *ptimusDMan
over a year ago
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With all the talk of evolution, social conditioning, ancestors were not monogamous, etc etc.., nobody seems to have mentioned the reason why even though it is obvious that more people than not want to have multiple sex partners, it still isn't socially acceptable.
Jealousy and similar emotions are the main culprits of why many can't handle unfaithful partners. These are feelings that can't be helped or controled, even when there's a conscious effort to do so.
This happens even amongst swingers. Couples who suddenly become jealous seeing their partner with someone else or singles who get jealous seeing a playmate with someone else.
So, what to do about these emotions? That's the question and the main reason why infidelity will never become mainstream. |
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